Acer Aspire XC-105 Desktop, AMD A4-5000,1.5GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVD ROM, AMD HD8000, Free DOS for £159.99 @ Ebuyer
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Acer Aspire XC-105 Desktop, AMD A4-5000,1.5GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVD ROM, AMD HD8000, Free DOS for £159.99 @ Ebuyer

£159.99Ebuyer Deals
SuperEd 122
SuperEd
Found 18th Oct 2013
Easy enough to put your own Windows on it if needed (Hopefully not the evil win

Plenty of USB ports and an HDMI port along dedicated graphics card. Also expandable ram upto 16GB (most wont need that much though)

Processor
AMD A4-5000 Quad Core 1.5GHz
Memory
4GB DDR3 RAM
Expandable to 16GB
2 x DIMM slot
Hard Drive
500GB SATA
Optical Drive
DVD ROM - Read Only
Software
Operating System: Free DOS
Display
None
Graphics
AMD Radeon HD 8000 Series
Audio
High-definition audio
with 5.1-channel surround sound support
Input Devices
Keyboard and Mouse NOT Included
Dimensions
Width 100 mm
Depth 367 mm
Height 269.5 mm
Front ports
2 x USB 2.0 Ports,
Card Reader,
Headphone Jack
Rear Ports
6 x USB 2.0,
2 x PS/2 Ports,
1 x Ethernet RJ-45,
3 x Audio Ports,
1 x VGA port,
1 x HDMI Port

122 Comments

Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is fantastic and fast.Cold.

Original Poster SuperEd

monitor1

Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is … Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is fantastic and fast.Cold.



Windows 8 is the worst thing i have seen in a while. I just can't get on with it (My opinion)
Edited by: "goonertillidie" 18th Oct 2013

monitor1

Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is … Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is fantastic and fast.Cold.



It'll run Windows 8 (and most software) absolutely fine, considering the CPU/APU having a TDP of only 15W (*really* low power). Windows 8 or 8.1 is absolutely the best version of Windows you could put on this.

AMD A4-5000 Quad Core 1.5GHz. Netbook processor.

monitor1

AMD A4-5000 Quad Core 1.5GHz. Netbook processor.



I wish *my* netbook had it. As well as the 4GB of RAM.

Who in their right mind would buy this for a desktop computer.

surly this is perfect for htpc

How does this compare to the zoostorm AMD pc that's going for £149.99?
m.ebuyer.com/407538

Looks ok to me with a superficial appraisal. Not a scorcher, just about hot. Of course, unsuitable for any modern application which needs considerable processing or graphics power, but the APU is not useless for older programs or general use.

Great for grandparents.

I’d rather have a Zoostorm over an Acer any day. Acer stuff is cheap and never lasts in my opinion.

Bought two mid spec Acer towers over the past 4 years and they both died just after 18 Months with motherboard issues. First wouldn’t display video and the second was unstable and slow despite being a quad core i5, in the end that died too.

this would be great in a netbook, in a desktop it is pretty poor

monitor1

AMD A4-5000 Quad Core 1.5GHz. Netbook processor.


Please post link to this APU in a 'netbook' system to back up your comment.

This processor would destroy any HTPC duties...

abusaleh

How does this compare to the zoostorm AMD pc that's going for … How does this compare to the zoostorm AMD pc that's going for £149.99?http://m.ebuyer.com/407538


That link didnt work for me but I do you mean this one? ebuyer.com/407…076

The one in this thread has better CPU, more HDD, similar graphics.
It's smaller. And probably less power draw if that is a factor for you...

monitor1

Who in their right mind would buy this for a desktop computer.


Someone with low processing requirements who didn't want to spend a lot of money probably ?

It is a decent machine for browsing, watching videos and other stuff that most people do on a tablet these days.
Strange that the motherboard is labelled "•Kelia A45000MK_USB3.0(Y)_Win8(Y) / PFC 220W (8.5L) EuP" yet the specs do not mention USB 3.

Should be perfectly usable for general computing, CPU wise this is basically a Ultra Mobile version of what is going into the Xbone and PS4 and has appeared in a few Notebooks from Toshiba ect. Just don't buy it expecting a Gaming Ninja PC, It is what it is and will be good for browsing and media consumption and some very light gaming.

Chrrye

That link didnt work for me but I do you mean this one? … That link didnt work for me but I do you mean this one? http://www.ebuyer.com/407538-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1076The one in this thread has better CPU, more HDD, similar graphics. It's smaller. And probably less power draw if that is a factor for you...


It'll be used for school work mainly. Office applications, photoshop cs2 and some miniclip games at most. Would this be expected to give at about 2yrs service with regular use?

jalp99uk

It is a decent machine for browsing, watching videos and other stuff that … It is a decent machine for browsing, watching videos and other stuff that most people do on a tablet these days.Strange that the motherboard is labelled "•Kelia A45000MK_USB3.0(Y)_Win8(Y) / PFC 220W (8.5L) EuP" yet the specs do not mention USB 3.


Decent machine for those purposes yes. Think 'most people use a tablet for x' statement is a bit dubious. 'Most people' don't have a tablet...

Yeah usb3 question is weird..you can see the usb3 colour ports on the front but not the back and the next level up on ebuyer is this:
ebuyer.com/516…001
which states usb3 ports.
Acer press release says usb3: acer.co.uk/ac/…096
but this system is clearly slightly cut down fromt he usual so you need to be careful...

Guess you could email them to check to be sure...

datalossfs

Should be perfectly usable for general computing, CPU wise this is … Should be perfectly usable for general computing, CPU wise this is basically a Ultra Mobile version of what is going into the Xbone and PS4 and has appeared in a few Notebooks from Toshiba ect. Just don't buy it expecting a Gaming Ninja PC, It is what it is and will be good for browsing and media consumption and some very light gaming.


Agreed. I'm also interested to see: because the CPU power draw is so low, there is potentially head-room with the stock PSU to add a low profile GPU into the mix for some slightly less light gaming. Not sure if it would be worth it as the CPU would become (even more of) a limiter but still...

CPU doing some gaming (on a laptop heh)
youtube.com/wat…yLY

jalp99uk

It is a decent machine for browsing, watching videos and other stuff that … It is a decent machine for browsing, watching videos and other stuff that most people do on a tablet these days.Strange that the motherboard is labelled "•Kelia A45000MK_USB3.0(Y)_Win8(Y) / PFC 220W (8.5L) EuP" yet the specs do not mention USB 3.



.. suggesting the A45 chipset.

abusaleh

It'll be used for school work mainly. Office applications, photoshop cs2 … It'll be used for school work mainly. Office applications, photoshop cs2 and some miniclip games at most. Would this be expected to give at about 2yrs service with regular use?


It should be competent at those tasks. I have little experience of Acer as a brand and you need a proper operating system on this before you can get down to business. Do you have a plan/knowledge for that?

Best to think of this as a midlow-level laptop in a small form factor desktop shell. And I don't mean that in either a positive or negative way. But CHEAP!
You can see similarly specced laptops command a significantly higher price point (although tbf these have larger hard drives and Windows 8 ):
amazon.co.uk/Len…Y48
ebay.co.uk/itm…9=0

If you need more reassurance on suitability I would explore reviews for systems that have this processor (either laptops or desktops) and see what people are saying. I think this represents a cheap viable option for the situation you describe as long as you have an plan for an OS


Edited by: "Chrrye" 18th Oct 2013

goonertillidie

Windows 8 is the worst thing i have seen in a while. I just can't get on … Windows 8 is the worst thing i have seen in a while. I just can't get on with it (My opinion)



You don't have to. Add Startisback, delete all the new rubbish and enjoy fast boot up and smooth operation. I wouldn't consider a new machine without it after a few months with it on 2 laptops.

steford

You don't have to. Add Startisback, delete all the new rubbish and enjoy … You don't have to. Add Startisback, delete all the new rubbish and enjoy fast boot up and smooth operation. I wouldn't consider a new machine without it after a few months with it on 2 laptops.




or install today's windows 8 update

Chrrye

It should be competent at those tasks. I have little experience of Acer … It should be competent at those tasks. I have little experience of Acer as a brand and you need a proper operating system on this before you can get down to business. Do you have a plan/knowledge for that? Best to think of this as a midlow-level laptop in a small form factor desktop shell. And I don't mean that in either a positive or negative way. But CHEAP!You can see similarly specced laptops command a significantly higher price point (although tbf these have larger hard drives and Windows 8 ):http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-G505-15-6-inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B00DPERY48http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/331013681445?lpid=83&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=83&ff19=0If you need more reassurance on suitability I would explore reviews for systems that have this processor (either laptops or desktops) and see what people are saying. I think this represents a cheap viable option for the situation you describe as long as you have an plan for an OS


I've got a spare windows 7 license. Was given to me by someone who got it cheap then didn't need to use it.

abusaleh

I've got a spare windows 7 license. Was given to me by someone who got it … I've got a spare windows 7 license. Was given to me by someone who got it cheap then didn't need to use it.


Sounds like getting a system where you can leverage that will be best then !

ps. if the CPU is worrying you or your not bothered about the small case size there are some other options below:
novatech.co.uk/pro…tml (better cpu)
novatech.co.uk/pro…tml (better cpu , fast memory)
novatech.co.uk/pro…tml (significantly better cpu , usb3 , sata3)
overclockers.co.uk/sho…-OK (significantly+ better cpu)

Do note the above are missing a OS , a HDD and an ODD(CD/DVD) (not that one necessarily needs a ODD nowadays so much)...factor this into the cost.

Tbh number 3 jumps out at me as being a particularly worthy alternative if you are prepared to spend about £70 more (£40 HDD). It would likely be v.upgradeable down the line should you wish...

This would make a nice XBMC machine.

Regards
Flea

Yes it would be a fine xbmc.
You don't even need an OS as you can download the OpenElec OS as the only OS.
I am using an old Hp S3542 pc which is about the same size and as Openelec OS is such a small OS it has no demand on the pc.
The Openelec software USB installs everything so it's a breeze and then just pop in a portable hdd to transfer movies to the internal storage.
Once you have done that google - add fusion to xbmc
Now you can install the Linux Xbmchub software which installs all those add ons you want.
Navi X has a download option if you need to directly add on extra media.
I sold my Apple TV 2 once I got my htpc set up and now have half the funds towards my new console next month.
If you ever get bored of Xbmc then this pc is easily turned back to a windows pc

Nice little machine, perfect for an HTPC, office or even as a computer for a teenager (will play minecraft and such like). Much better spec for a tenner when compared with the Zoostorm.

If the picture is anything to go by it defiantly has USB 3 as you can see the little blue tabs on the ports. And it wouldn't surprise me that is has a full size 7200RPM hard drive...

Passmark score seems to be 1905 = Not too shabby considering! (It's not a true 'toe to toe', but i remember an old I7 getting similar scores)



Edited by: "mcfly666" 20th Oct 2013

goonertillidie

Windows 8 is the worst thing i have seen in a while. I just can't get on … Windows 8 is the worst thing i have seen in a while. I just can't get on with it (My opinion)


i agree. windows 8, is just a biblical fail

hukutoc

i agree. windows 8, is just a biblical fail



Win 8 is defiantly Marmite, I'm on the fence as there are some really good things going on 'under the hood' with windows 8. For this machine it is the O/S to go for IMO as the performance increases with the new APU's are considerable (especially 8.1)

With Classic Start and a few tweaks I bet most 'everyday users' would be hard pushed to tell the difference over Win 7

Chrrye

Decent machine for those purposes yes. Think 'most people use a tablet … Decent machine for those purposes yes. Think 'most people use a tablet for x' statement is a bit dubious. 'Most people' don't have a tablet...Yeah usb3 question is weird..you can see the usb3 colour ports on the front but not the back and the next level up on ebuyer is this:http://www.ebuyer.com/516655-acer-aspire-xc-sff-desktop-dt-sr4ek-001which states usb3 ports.Acer press release says usb3: http://www.acer.co.uk/ac/en/GB/press/2013/62096but this system is clearly slightly cut down fromt he usual so you need to be careful...Guess you could email them to check to be sure...



I don't understand, it clearly lists USB 3.0 in the detailed specs, under 'Front Ports'!

tbh, I think this is a great machine, it's making me kinda regret my purchase of the HP N54l Microserver. Although I only paid £89.99 for it, the cost of adding 8GB of ram, a GT610 and Xonar DGX, that bumped the cost up to about £160/170! According to Passmark, the CPU in this bests the Neo N54l, plus this box comes with sound card, HDMI out, USB 3.0.

Obviously this lacks the lofty expansion possibilities of the N54l; though it does have USB 3.0!

I bought an Intel one of these with DVD drive the other day with Windows 8 pre-installed to replace my power hungry mid-range gaming PC which wasn't getting the use it deserved. As a low power torrent machine with streaming to other devices in the house it's brilliant.
It streams 1080p video perfectly on my network (via wireless too) and is often left on for days at a time. Windows 8 is fine for a basic user that uses it for day-to-day usage. I also use it for dabbling in Android/Ouya developing. I'm an IT professional and use it for work too and can take it away on business trips with a wireless mouse/keyboard and HDMI cable.
If you're concerned about the lack of a Start button just download the Classic Shell tool which will add a fully-featured one back and can make Windows skip the Metro/Modern/(whatever it's called these days) tile interface on startup.

Too many people want the latest/greatest and most powerful PC they can get, but for the needs of 95% of the public one of these will do fine. As long as you keep the startup list clean/minimal (using CCleaner or similar) then it'll work to it's full potential speed. A great buy IMO.

think this will play 1080p and 3d films from a blu ray rip ?

I was gonna take a punt.

its only for xbmc and htpc. i already have external sound card too

worth a shot?

hukutoc

i agree. windows 8, is just a biblical fail


Fail - Meaning better in almost every conceivable way?

Can we now stop talking about windows 8.... it happened and its has pluses and minuses.

How about we discuss the product on offer here, not what people think of something that is completely optional.

Thanks

monitor1

Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is … Would be ashamed of putting windows 8 on this thing.Windows 8 is fantastic and fast.Cold.



its only ms employees that think that

monitor1

Who in their right mind would buy this for a desktop computer.



offices that just use their computer for microsoft office and web browsing.

zen200

think this will play 1080p and 3d films from a blu ray rip ?I was gonna … think this will play 1080p and 3d films from a blu ray rip ?I was gonna take a punt.its only for xbmc and htpc. i already have external sound card tooworth a shot?



it has amd 8000 series graphics so yes it will play blurays perfectly.

The deal looks good so its getting heat from me.

As for the Win 8 debate, well for me its Win 8 all the way. Win 8 uses the resources far more efficiently than any other Windows which would make it ideal for this machine. I was already converted to Win 8, it did take time to get used to it but I learned to like it and prefer it now. Having now had 8.1 for a few days I really cannot understand the hatred as its a very good OS, sometimes change is the way forward?

The zoostorm being talked about has a ridiculously loud PSU/CPU fan. Family member has it and after setting it up I opened it up, pretty sure it was the PSU... definite no no for htpc. Hopefully this PC is better.
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