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Acer Desktop, Intel Q8300, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Blu-Ray, Windows 7 Home Premium £499.99 @Ebuyer
Acer Desktop, Intel Q8300, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Blu-Ray, Windows 7 Home Premium £499.99 @Ebuyer

Acer Desktop, Intel Q8300, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Blu-Ray, Windows 7 Home Premium £499.99 @Ebuyer

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Acer Aspire M3802 Desktop PC
Processor
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.50GHz
* 4MB L2 Cache
* Intel® G43 Express Chipset

Memory
* 6GB DDR2 800MHz
* Expandable to 8GB
* 4 x soDIMM slot

Hard Drive
* 1TB / 1000GB SATA

Optical Drive
* Blu-Ray / DVDRW Combo

Software
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
* Acer Arcade Deluxe
* Acer eRecovery Management
* Adobe® Reader®
* eSobi
* McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2009 Trial
* Microsoft® Office 2007 Trial with Microsoft® Works
* MyWinLocker®
* Nero Essentials
* Oberon GameZone

Graphics
* Intel® GMA X4500 up to 1024MB

Audio
* Embedded high-definition audio with 7.1-channel surround sound support
* S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) support

Input Devices
* Value keyboard & optical mouse

Networking
* No Wireless Lan
* Gigabit Ethernet Wake on LAN ready

Interfaces
Front:
* Four USB 2.0 ports
* Multi-in-1 card reader
* High-definition headphone and microphone jacks
Rear:
* Four USB 2.0 ports
* IEEE 1394 port (6-pin)
* PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports
* Ethernet (RJ-45) port
* Six audio ports
* D-Sub VGA port
* HDMI port
S/PDIF module:
* Optical S/PDIF port
* Two USB 2.0 ports

1 year Manufacturer Warranty

33 Comments

Original Poster

£549.99 similar spec apart from 640GB HDD, 802.11n wireless adaptar and ati 4330 512mb gddr2. dixons.co.uk/mar…843

Nice one

seems like a pretty awesome spec for the money!

"A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors". What does that mean, what do you actually get?

All that spec and still only x4 USB ports - you can never have too many!

I'm tempted but cautious because of Acer's poor backup reputation (and eBuyer's?). Any views out there?

Besford;6775439

All that spec and still only x4 USB ports - you can never have too many!



4 at the front and 6 at the rear it says

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Besford;6775439

"A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors". What does … "A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors". What does that mean, what do you actually get?All that spec and still only x4 USB ports - you can never have too many!I'm tempted but cautious because of Acer's poor backup reputation (and eBuyers?). Any views out there?



usb ports can easily be solved with a usb hub powered or non powered. Havent much complaints about ebuyer on this forum lately, no retailer is perfect, the last complaints i heard about them was of customer service. As for Acer yes there are alot of anti acer people on here but for me im a happy acer customer, as there warranties are really cheap and my laptop is still working fine after 10-11 monnhs use.

Theres actually a total of 10 usb ports so there is definitely no shortage of usb ports. Unfortunately there not any reviews as this is a new item product to win 7.

Computerman;6775667

Havent much complaints about ebuyer on this forum lately, no retailer is … Havent much complaints about ebuyer on this forum lately, no retailer is perfect, the last complaints i heard about them was of customer service.



It seems they are still deleting negative reviews from their site though, as they have done with mine and many others in the past - this post was yesterday:
hotukdeals.com/ite…t=6

jameslaw123;6775782

which pc would you recommend ?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168382


Thanks. Good spec and I like Fujitsu (current PC Fujitsu Siemens has been fine for 4 years) but I'm looking for Win7 pre-installed and this is Vista.

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jameslaw123;6775782

which pc would you recommend ?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168382



if you play games the fujitsu would be a better buy if you dont play games get the acer.
Heres the thread on the fujitsu pc hotukdeals.com/ite…-pc
The differences is that acer has more ram, slightly faster cpu, windows 7 and slightly cheaper. The onl;y advantage the fujistsu pc has is the ATi 4850 graphics card which can be bought separately for about £75.

Thanks again for all the advice but what about the issue of Acer's reputation? Is it valid for desktops too? My expertise, such as it is, is as a user not a fixer; I don't want to be fiddling with software or hardware every few months!

Computerman;6778356

if you play games the fujitsu would be a better buy if you dont play … if you play games the fujitsu would be a better buy if you dont play games get the acer.Heres the thread on the fujitsu pc http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/465357/fujitsu-amilo-dp3-pi3635-desktop-pcThe differences is that acer has more ram, slightly faster cpu, windows 7 and slightly cheaper. The onl;y advantage the fujistsu pc has is the ATi 4850 graphics card which can be bought separately for about £75.



thanks for answering, do you know if the ATi 4850 is 512MB or 1GB

Original Poster

jameslaw123;6781637

thanks for answering, do you know if the ATi 4850 is 512MB or 1GB



no i dont but its most likely to be 512MB as that one is cheaper. If it was 1GB id assume they would state it was 1GB as that would be more appealing to customers.

I'm not sure what this machine is spec'd for.

All that RAM seems great, but you're only going to notice it with gaming or something extremely graphics instensive - so why only have onboard sound and graphics?

It's a machine spec designed to wow people who don't know what they want their machine for. I'd avoid it.

I'd never questioned what S/PDIF actually stood for, learn something new every day

Scissorhands;6786969

I'm not sure what this machine is spec'd for. All that RAM seems great, … I'm not sure what this machine is spec'd for. All that RAM seems great, but you're only going to notice it with gaming or something extremely graphics instensive - so why only have onboard sound and graphics?It's a machine spec designed to wow people who don't know what they want their machine for. I'd avoid it.



I would say a decent development machine - barring the home premium OS

I would use this for
watching movies
developing and compiling software
running virtualbox to ensure compatibility with other OSes
running an oracle database server

not everyone falls into the "fastest graphics possible" camp

if you want gd spec pc but with out os 459.95 and option to install better ghx cards or sound cards id go for this >> dinopc.com/sho…htm

there's also some nice gaming pc's on there all come with 3yr warranty

Original Poster

Scissorhands;6786969

I'm not sure what this machine is spec'd for. All that RAM seems great, … I'm not sure what this machine is spec'd for. All that RAM seems great, but you're only going to notice it with gaming or something extremely graphics instensive - so why only have onboard sound and graphics?It's a machine spec designed to wow people who don't know what they want their machine for. I'd avoid it.



its an entertainment pc, and it can also be used for video editing.

Besford;6775439

"A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors". What does … "A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors". What does that mean, what do you actually get?



To tell the truth does not make any difference at all, i have the quad-core dell pc and still slow as my previous computer.:x

ali137;6791305

To tell the truth does not make any difference at all, i have the … To tell the truth does not make any difference at all, i have the quad-core dell pc and still slow as my previous computer.:x



Mines not!

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nihcaj;6793751

Mines not!



it depends on the processors you are comparing and the tasks you are running so a very hi end dual core cpu maybe better than a low end qaud core at some tasks. So sometimes a hi end dual core cpu maybe more beneficial if you play games than a low qaud core cpu as the qaud core cpu may have lower clock speeds and the game may not be optimised for quad core processing.

My son wants a cheapish gaming machine, he plays WOW and the like - would this be any good for him?

tessb;6798478

My son wants a cheapish gaming machine, he plays WOW and the like - would … My son wants a cheapish gaming machine, he plays WOW and the like - would this be any good for him?



Doubtful, will run it but the graphics would have to be dropped right down, I believe its an 'onboard' 3d chip - correct me if im wrong someone
I'm sure most 'buffs' know, but onboard 3d shares system memory rather than having it's own dedicated memory - hence keeping the price lower but sacrificing performance in modern games. Nothing to say you couldn't slap a 3d card in this pc though then it would be fine so far as I can see - for around £100 you can get a more than capable3d card - personally I have an ATi HD4870 1GB its by no means cutting edge, but will run anything I can throw at it.
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Thanks Goose. I really don't think he's going to be able to get a gaming machine in his price range, but I'll keep looking for him anyway

Computerman;6793873

it depends on the processors you are comparing and the tasks you are … it depends on the processors you are comparing and the tasks you are running so a very hi end dual core cpu maybe better than a low end qaud core at some tasks. So sometimes a hi end dual core cpu maybe more beneficial if you play games than a low qaud core cpu as the qaud core cpu may have lower clock speeds and the game may not be optimised for quad core processing.



Again the assumption that everyone who has a PC has it full of games, when in reality, serious gaming on PC is a minority activity, most PCs are office activity based, (in work and home situations) and multimedia or hobby orientated in the home! If they are used for games, it isn't the more serious gaming as most machines are not up to it any way!

If you have a high spec dual core machine, (it will probably be fairly, no VERY new anyway!) then you aren't going to be even thinking replacing it with a Quad core in the first place, unless you do no "homework" on what you are buying, and are a total salesman's dream, lurking in the aisles of PC World! If the dual core machine comes into this category, you certainly won't notice so much difference, but how many people are going to be in this situation?!

Replace an oldER Dual core machine and you are going to be buying a newer Quad core PC (Mines' only the older Q6600 with 667Mhz bus, so I even would see an increase in speed with a newer Quad core machine!)
With a Quad core machine, if I want to encode video, I can do, (and use all 4 cores if need be) and still use the PC for web browsing or mundane stuff at the same time, without it missing a beat, I can. As my NAS is busted and I didn't replace it, it can also serve/re-encode video & audio to either the media player or one of the other PCs in the house (especially as they are not on the OS HD) while I use it and do multiple other things without actually noticing it going on; but there isn't a single game on it!

tessb;6798478

My son wants a cheapish gaming machine



In that an oxymoron - the same as cheapish caviare, cold warmth or being half pregnant?

You pay for what you get with any PC, but when you are seeking maximum performance at low price, something has to give somewhere!

Original Poster

tessb;6798478

My son wants a cheapish gaming machine, he plays WOW and the like - would … My son wants a cheapish gaming machine, he plays WOW and the like - would this be any good for him?



This is not a gaming pc due to onboard graphics, what is your budget? what other games does he play?
If you want a quad core cpu, ati graphics card and blu ray this is the pc to buy ebuyer.com/pro…382 topic of the fujitsu pc is here hotukdeals.com/ite…-pc
These mesh pcs are cheaper without blu ray but have a ati 4850 graphics card installed:
ebuyer.com/pro…459 thread of this pc is here hotukdeals.com/ite…q82
ebuyer.com/pro…596
Also note the above pcs are shipped with vista home premium and not windows 7.
This pc has nvidia gts 250 graphics and windows 7 ebuyer.com/pro…496
This pc has an ati 4870 which is faster than the graphics card above £399.06 without any operating system.
ebuyer.com/pro…254 Thread here hotukdeals.com/ite…eno

nihcaj;6799187

In that an oxymoron - the same as cheapish caviare, cold warmth or being … In that an oxymoron - the same as cheapish caviare, cold warmth or being half pregnant? You pay for what you get with any PC, but when you are seeking maximum performance at low price, something has to give somewhere!



I agree with the bit about something having to give.
The lady clearly doesn't know, and has asked for some advice, Im sure she'd appreciate your advice alot more without the ' In that an oxymoron - the same as cheapish caviare, cold warmth or being half pregnant?' comment.
But if that's what flicks your switch, then fine

G0OSE;6799971

I agree with the bit about something having to give.The lady clearly … I agree with the bit about something having to give.The lady clearly doesn't know, and has asked for some advice, Im sure she'd appreciate your advice alot more without the ' In that an oxymoron - the same as cheapish caviare, cold warmth or being half pregnant?' comment.But if that's what flicks your switch, then fine



What are you on about? :-(

It was advice: My advice is - There is no such thing as a cheap games machine.

As for giving advice, it is the precise reason that people give me Rep. Sorry if you can't understand the words I might use, it doesn't mean others have the same problem.

If all you want to do is criticise me, put me on ignore, then you won't have to read it, it is as simple as that, I find it helps me, a lot.

Hi Computerman,

His budget is around £600, I know it's not a lot for a gaming computer, he'll probably not get a great computer for his money but he's been saving for ages as the computer we have now really stutters its way through the games he plays and I think he'd like to have something new before Christmas.

He plays WOW, Team Fortress 2, Left for Dead, Half Life 2. I will look through the links with him tomorrow, and I really appreciate the time and effort you have gone to in sending me these links, thanks xx

Edit: after reading the other posts here, should I advise him to hold on for a bit longer, save up a bit more and buy a better machine?

Original Poster

tessb;6805843

Hi Computerman,His budget is around £600, I know it's not a lot for a … Hi Computerman,His budget is around £600, I know it's not a lot for a gaming computer, he'll probably not get a great computer for his money but he's been saving for ages as the computer we have now really stutters its way through the games he plays and I think he'd like to have something new before Christmas.He plays WOW, Team Fortress 2, Left for Dead, Half Life 2. I will look through the links with him tomorrow, and I really appreciate the time and effort you have gone to in sending me these links, thanks xxEdit: after reading the other posts here, should I advise him to hold on for a bit longer, save up a bit more and buy a better machine?



All of the computers in my previous post are below £600.

Slightly cheaper at Currys £494 using 5% code xmas5 + Quidco cashback comes out at £479, only has 640gb hard drive but has seperate graphics card 512MB ATI Radeon HD4350 not sure if its the better deal, probably about the same i guess

currys.co.uk/mar…407

Original Poster

deanos;6942804

Slightly cheaper at Currys £494 using 5% code xmas5 + Quidco cashback … Slightly cheaper at Currys £494 using 5% code xmas5 + Quidco cashback comes out at £479, only has 640gb hard drive but has seperate graphics card 512MB ATI Radeon HD4350 not sure if its the better deal, probably about the same i guesshttp://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/301407



that does seem to be a tiny bit better.
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