Acer ES15 - 15.6" , I3(7100u) , 8G RAM ,256GB SSD, DVD drive - New - Argos EBay- £399.99
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Acer ES15 - 15.6" , I3(7100u) , 8G RAM ,256GB SSD, DVD drive - New - Argos EBay- £399.99

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Edited by:"rogparki"Found 17th Oct
Looking for a reasonably fast Laptop for a present . Not after a gaming laptop or super dooper display , so resolution/graphics not an issue .

She wants a :- decent processor - tick (I3 7100u)
dvd rewriter - tick , (I know you can plug one in to any laptop but "hey" she wants one )
reasonable size SSD - tick ,(256GB is more than reasonable to me )
Reputable supplier - tick
Warranty - tick
New - tick
Resolution 1366x768 - tick (not stunning HD+ but fine for general use )
Decent amount of RAM - tick ( I think 8GB is plenty for this spec)
Somehow I don't trust refurbs , and I notice that machines of this spec from Laptops Direct , Save on Laptops etc are more expensive for similar spec yet have 4 or 5 series I3s ( so I presume are 2-4 years old ) and the rest of the "innards" will also be of that era /age .

Oh ,by the way , I put my money where my mouth is - bought one yesterday - its arriving this morning - hope I don't regret it . But if I do - 30 day return + 1 year warranty with Argos . Try that with a Chinese seller !

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1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my opinion.

Many websites and documents now expect higher resolution than that.

A 720p screen is barely acceptable on a smartphone, let alone 15.6" of horrible pixelation.

Rest of the spec is great but the screen res is a deal breaker for me.

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htslough35 m ago

1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my …1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my opinion.Many websites and documents now expect higher resolution than that.A 720p screen is barely acceptable on a smartphone, let alone 15.6" of horrible pixelation.Rest of the spec is great but the screen res is a deal breaker for me.



I know "expectations" are high if you are a gamer ( and high res possibly vital ). I have a 3 year old Lenovo 17" Laptop with 1600 x 900 resolution and that is fine for general use and watching vids (I'm not a gamer nor is GF) . "Horrible pixilation " ? Never noticed that - maybe I should visit Specsavers ? We are talking about an affordable 15" Laptop - not a 70" tele .
Edited by: "rogparki" 17th Oct
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Wow super hot from me. Apart from being Acer (don't get me started on how they damaged my laptop at the repair centre blamed me....oh I started my rant again!) you can't get better surely? A 256gb SSD at this price has gotta be a first, the i3 is fine as SSD gains more than makes up for not having i5 or above. Oh and DVD writer too!!!

I think it's a decent find even though the resolution lets it down at 1366 X 768.

Heat.

Good CPU, RAM and larger SSD. If you don't need FHD resolution and don't mind the brand, good deal.
To think you could get this for £100 less last Christmas shows a big rise in laptop prices.

Resolution 1366 x 768 pixels

Worth posting the resolution in the description as although you're not bothered by it, a lot of people seem to be after a similar spec but with Full HD.

LankyChris4 m ago

Resolution 1366 x 768 pixelsWorth posting the resolution in the …Resolution 1366 x 768 pixelsWorth posting the resolution in the description as although you're not bothered by it, a lot of people seem to be after a similar spec but with Full HD.


The hd may add £70 to cost..any ideas

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LankyChris6 m ago

Resolution 1366 x 768 pixelsWorth posting the resolution in the …Resolution 1366 x 768 pixelsWorth posting the resolution in the description as although you're not bothered by it, a lot of people seem to be after a similar spec but with Full HD.



Have done that - also used price checker . This particular spec model has never been at this low price . The Acer E15's are a whole family of laptops - maybe the one you noticed for £299 was a budget processor , 4GB RAM and a standard "Spinning disc " storage ?

supermod

Great find @rogparki , voted hot

1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my opinion.

Many websites and documents now expect higher resolution than that.

A 720p screen is barely acceptable on a smartphone, let alone 15.6" of horrible pixelation.

Rest of the spec is great but the screen res is a deal breaker for me.

Not bad spec for price. I have an Acer laptop and been using for the past 6 months. No issues at all. There was a little bit of bloatware to remove but that’s optional, obviously. Heat.

Can it be returned to a local branch in the event of a warranty claim?.

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htslough35 m ago

1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my …1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my opinion.Many websites and documents now expect higher resolution than that.A 720p screen is barely acceptable on a smartphone, let alone 15.6" of horrible pixelation.Rest of the spec is great but the screen res is a deal breaker for me.



I know "expectations" are high if you are a gamer ( and high res possibly vital ). I have a 3 year old Lenovo 17" Laptop with 1600 x 900 resolution and that is fine for general use and watching vids (I'm not a gamer nor is GF) . "Horrible pixilation " ? Never noticed that - maybe I should visit Specsavers ? We are talking about an affordable 15" Laptop - not a 70" tele .
Edited by: "rogparki" 17th Oct

Guys, Can you recommend me any Laptop with i5 , 8 GB Ram, SSD & with HDD slot please

I hate these dishonest and cunning pricing techniques. Instead of advertising it as a £400 laptop, they sell it for a penny less and make it appear as if it's significantly cheaper. I look forward to the day when businesses are run honestly and not by sneaky means. I'll keep on dreaming.

7day1 h, 9 m ago

The hd may add £70 to cost..any ideas


No but that's what I'm after, ideally for under £500. There's the occasional short-lived deal on here like the recent Currys clearance offers, Dell outlet, or refurbs. I'm hoping something comes up on Black Friday.

Would a basic game like sims run ok on this?

1366x768 on a 15.6" in 2017 is an absolute joke.

COLD - that screen is a dealbreaker at this price. The laptop is also a brick like 2.4kg weight.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct

400quid is a significant chunk to spend on such a basic laptop
voted cold

It really is not a tick from me.

The resolution is a big X. It is not a tick. I really do expect 1080 at any price and your girlfriend should surely expect it.

Otherwise it is fine - other than the brand - Acer is a budget brand using cheap components. Oh and the processor is also the budget processor - at least it is not a 3 year old one. Everything about this says budget.

Only two things are ok - the SSD and the 8gb ram

You really will get a much better laptop buying a refurbished A class computer. It will be much better than this - both in terms of look and feel as well as specification.

raven18 m ago

I hate these dishonest and cunning pricing techniques. Instead of …I hate these dishonest and cunning pricing techniques. Instead of advertising it as a £400 laptop, they sell it for a penny less and make it appear as if it's significantly cheaper. I look forward to the day when businesses are run honestly and not by sneaky means. I'll keep on dreaming.


Seriously... it's hardly dishonest it's just basic marketing. I'm sure, before parting with there hard earned money, the average consumer can figure out just how close £399.99 is to £400. Would this be less of a deal if it was £400.1?

Musicrab1 h, 38 m ago

Good CPU, RAM and larger SSD. If you don't need FHD resolution and don't …Good CPU, RAM and larger SSD. If you don't need FHD resolution and don't mind the brand, good deal.To think you could get this for £100 less last Christmas shows a big rise in laptop prices.


WOW!, is that so?, hmmmmmmmm. :-(

I guess that's me holding out for this Year's longgggg Black Friday/Cyber Monday Weekend then ... hehehehe. :-D

Not toooooo far away now?, so no big, lol. :-)

Currently this is probably one of the best laptop deals around that has a 256GB SSD drive in it. I've just spent the weekend looking for a new laptop under £400 with an SSD drive and there's surprisingly little that have decent CPU's (I don't want Atom based ones (and exluding refubs)

Yes everything was cheaper 18 months ago but right now you'll be very hard pressed to find a better deal for this spec at this price.

Sure a higer res screen is preferable but you can pay more if you need that. Many average users will not mind or notice this lower res screen when they're on Facebook or suchlike.

Heat from me for the specs and the price.

I just ordered the Lenovo i5 / 4GB / 128gb ssd from ebuyer for £379 if anyone is looking for something similar price/spec
Edited by: "spannerzone" 17th Oct

htslough4 h, 35 m ago

1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my …1366x768 is no longer acceptable on a laptop at any price in my opinion.Many websites and documents now expect higher resolution than that.A 720p screen is barely acceptable on a smartphone, let alone 15.6" of horrible pixelation.Rest of the spec is great but the screen res is a deal breaker for me.



Great news, pay more and get a higher resolution screen if that's what you need or pay this price and get lower res screen..... not everyone needs full hd and so gives them a decent spec at a lower price. I appreciate all laptops are more expensive than last year but currently this deal is very good for the specs it has.

The MSI lap top I have here is full HD, the difference is obvious. The acer here is likely to be s-l-o-w

raven5 h, 21 m ago

I hate these dishonest and cunning pricing techniques. Instead of …I hate these dishonest and cunning pricing techniques. Instead of advertising it as a £400 laptop, they sell it for a penny less and make it appear as if it's significantly cheaper. I look forward to the day when businesses are run honestly and not by sneaky means. I'll keep on dreaming.



This is such a hilarious comment.

You really think that pricing an item at £399.99 instead of £400 is dishonest and/or cunning?!

its neither of those things.

Dishonest - £399.99 is what it says, and that’s what you will pay. Therefore it is honest.

Cunning - Well I guess if you’re the type to fall for the old ‘tartan paint’ and ‘left handed hammer’ pranks then you’d better watch out. Everyone else should be okay.

Id hate to hear how you describe the bankers that helped create the global financial crisis....

saveonlaptops.co.uk/X55…tml

This was priced at £429 3 weeks ago, will likely go back down soon.

I think this deal is flattering to deceive with the 256GB SSD. A FHD screen will always trump RAM and SSD (because they're upgradeable). I would never pay £400 for a non FHD laptop.

spannerzone3 h, 32 m ago

Many average users will not mind or notice this lower res screen when …Many average users will not mind or notice this lower res screen when they're on Facebook or suchlike.



Even a blind man and his blind dog would notice the difference between a 1920x1080 screen and a 1024x768 screen.

An 'average user' would also rather watch a full HD video over one that's at a noticeably lower resolution. There's also greater likelihood of a 1080p screen being a superior IPS panel rather than TN.

There really is no excuse for manufacturers putting in a crappy low res LCD panel in laptop like this in 2017 when the cost difference in panel prices are in region of $10-$15 depending on volume - that's less than the cost of that useless DVD drive they've built into it.

This laptop is nothing more than the manufacturer taking advantage of consumers.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct

I've had Acer laptops before and they've all been great. I don't know why people are saying "If you don't mind the brand". Is there a reputation I'm not aware of?

You can get a FHD screen replacement off Ebay for less then £30. Why they are selling it with anything less I'm not really sure. It's the only letdown here.

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Dan_Bound-11804962312824075619759 m ago

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X556UB-DM262T-ASUS-X556UB-DM262T_1966546.htmlThis was priced at £429 3 weeks ago, will likely go back down soon.



Better screen and Graphics , granted . Last years I3 processor and only 128 GB SSD - And "may" go down again to £429 . Currently £499 . Hardly a comparison for an extra £100 .

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Picard12314 m ago

Even a blind man and his blind dog would notice the difference between a …Even a blind man and his blind dog would notice the difference between a 1920x1080 screen and a 1024x768 screen.Even an 'average user' would rather watch a full HD video over one that's at a noticeably lower resolution. There's also greater likelihood of a 1080p screen being a superior IPS panel rather than TN.There really is no excuse for manufacturers putting in a crappy low res LCD panel in laptop like this in 2017 when the cost difference in panel prices are in region of $10-$15 depending on volume - that's less than the cost of that useless DVD drive they've built into it.This laptop is nothing more than the manufacturer taking advantage of consumers.



I think that still producing laptops with "spinning disc" storage is taking advantage. Screens and graphics are improving all the time so understandable that "new budget laptops " are still using older screens . But SSDs- they've been around for years - no excuse for still using 1990s storage technology .
Edited by: "rogparki" 17th Oct

Out of stock now

Picard12324 m ago

Even a blind man and his blind dog would notice the difference between a …Even a blind man and his blind dog would notice the difference between a 1920x1080 screen and a 1024x768 screen.An 'average user' would also rather watch a full HD video over one that's at a noticeably lower resolution. There's also greater likelihood of a 1080p screen being a superior IPS panel rather than TN.There really is no excuse for manufacturers putting in a crappy low res LCD panel in laptop like this in 2017 when the cost difference in panel prices are in region of $10-$15 depending on volume - that's less than the cost of that useless DVD drive they've built into it.This laptop is nothing more than the manufacturer taking advantage of consumers.



Sufficient demand for these clearly exists so while most would appreciate a higher spec screen, many will put up with it because they're buying on price alone.

As demand is sufficient the manufacturer continues to sell them. Seems pretty simple, if you want higher spec you pay a higher price.

As I write this I am setting up a Lenovo with this screen resolution, it's for my aunt and it will be fine, I know if she had a 1080x1920 res screen she'd complain everything is too small to read. She will not be bothered on iota as it's a perfectly usable resolution for her requirements
Edited by: "spannerzone" 17th Oct

rogparki18 m ago

I think that still producing laptops with "spinning disc" storage is …I think that still producing laptops with "spinning disc" storage is taking advantage. Screens and graphics are improving all the time so understandable that "new budget laptops " are still using older screens . But SSDs- they've been around for years - no excuse for still using 1990s storage technology .


Mechanical hard drives are noticeably cheaper per GB than SSDs. That's why they still exist. You can buy a 1TB 2.5" HDD for £40 or so. You won't get a 1TB SSD for the same money. It's actually the manufacturer taking advantage given that they don't provide a spare M.2 slot for an SSD upgrade when the size and weight of this laptop would easily allow it.

I don't want a manufacturer dumping some crappy screen on me and instead marketing the SSD part when I can buy a basic 256GB SSD for less than £60.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct

spannerzone3 m ago

Sufficient demand for these clearly exists so while most would appreciate …Sufficient demand for these clearly exists so while most would appreciate a higher spec screen, many will put up with it because they're buying on price alone. As demand is sufficient the manufacturer continues to sell them. Seems pretty simple, if you want higher spec you pay a higher price.


Demand only exists because consumers don't know any better and the manufacturers can therefore get away with taking advantage of them.

No properly informed or knowledgeable consumer will choose something like this.

Picard1234 m ago

Demand only exists because consumers don't know any better and the …Demand only exists because consumers don't know any better and the manufacturers can therefore get away with taking advantage of them.No properly informed or knowledgeable consumer will choose something like this.



But many buyers are totally ill informed and lazy at doing any research at all, I'm not guessing at this, I used to sell consumer electronics and the blind faith in salesmen is appalling. So many consumers buy on the basis that a manufacturer and a retailer won't sell crap and assume they're buying the best, regardless of price.

A great example is all those £120 -£180 windows laptops being flogged with 32GB drives and 2GB ram.... they sell by the bucket load but they're utter crap and yet people buy them because of one thing: price

Are manufacturers taking advantage of them? well they're trying to make money, as any sensible business does.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 17th Oct

spannerzone10 m ago

But many buyers are totally ill informed and lazy at doing any research at …But many buyers are totally ill informed and lazy at doing any research at all, I'm not guessing at this, I used to sell consumer electronics and the blind faith in salesmen is appalling. So many consumers buy on the basis that a manufacturer and a retailer won't sell crap and assume they're buying the best, regardless of price.A great example is all those £120 -£180 windows laptops being flogged with 32GB drives and 2GB ram.... they sell by the bucket load but they're utter crap and yet people buy them because of one thing: priceAre manufacturers taking advantage of them? well they're trying to make money, as any sensible business does.


My parents could buy something like this but only because they don't have a clue about laptops. The screen turns on...the keyboard works....can I can send emails with it and use the internet?

Manufacturers are taking advantage of them because they're dumping useless/crappy/old components onto people in order to maximise their profit margins.

As long as people on here keep on accepting mediocrity, there's no incentive for manufacturers to improve their products. I find it pretty disappointing that there are people like the OP saying 'Yeah 1024x768 is fine', 'Yeah crappy TN panel is fine', 'Yeah 2.4kg brick like weight is fine' etc. That's just someone who doesn't know any better.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct

Picard12311 m ago

My parents could buy something like this but only because they don't have …My parents could buy something like this but only because they don't have a clue about laptops. The screen turns on...the keyboard works....can I can send emails with it and use the internet?Manufacturers are taking advantage of them because they're dumping useless/crappy/old components onto people in order to maximise their profit margins. As long as people on here keep on accepting mediocrity, there's no incentive for manufacturers to improve their products. I find it pretty disappointing that there are people like the OP saying 'Yeah 1024x768 is fine', 'Yeah crappy TN panel is fine', 'Yeah 2.4kg brick like weight is fine' etc. That's just someone who doesn't know any better.



It's not people on here that are making any difference it's the entire world population, all the time they buy on price alone manufacturers will keep making bottom of the barrel and out dated products. It's human nature to buy a bargain and the result is that most bargains are actually just lower spec or poorer built products.

What does it actually matter? we have a choice here, pay less and get less, pay more and get more. Every few years specs increase and that'll happen with these screens at some point but it's not now because sufficient demand exists.

You're getting annoyed that many average Joe publics don't know any better and keep buying low spec junk, I say who cares as long as there is a choice.

When full HD screens do become normal on these low price laptops people will complain they're not 4K and so the circle of technology continues to make us buy more stuff.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 17th Oct

spannerzone15 m ago

It's not people on here that are making any difference it's the entire …It's not people on here that are making any difference it's the entire world population, all the time they buy on price alone manufacturers will keep making bottom of the barrel and out dated products. It's human nature to buy a bargain and the result is that most bargains are actually just lower spec or poorer built products.What does it actually matter? we have a choice here, pay less and get less, pay more and get more. Every few years specs increase and that'll happen with these screens at some point but it's not now because sufficient demand exists.You're getting annoyed that many average Joe publics don't know any better and keep buying low spec junk, I say who cares as long as there is a choice.When full HD screens do become normal on these low price laptops people will complain they're not 4K and so the circle of technology continues to make us buy more stuff.


This isn't a bargain. This is a rubbish spec machine with sub-standard or mediocre components for £400.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct

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Picard1232 m ago

This isn't a bargain. This is a rubbish spec machine with sub-standard or …This isn't a bargain. This is a rubbish spec machine with sub-standard or mediocre components for £400.

You seem knowledgeable , instead of slating this one please suggest a £400 laptop that meets with your approval.

rogparki27 m ago

You seem knowledgeable , instead of slating this one please suggest a £400 …You seem knowledgeable , instead of slating this one please suggest a £400 laptop that meets with your approval.


There have been LOADS on here. Just do your research - be clear in your mind the size and spec you're looking for and what you need to use it for - and then keep your eyes peeled. I bought that £499 HP i7/1050 that was on here last week for example. Prior to that, I bought the EZbook 3 alu portable laptop for £170, and prior that an XPS13 from Outlet for £650 (normally around £900), a Lenovo gaming laptop for £470 (normally £700-£800) etc. There have been TONS of good deals to be had. You just need to keep your eyes peeled and act quickly when a good deal does come up.
Edited by: "Picard123" 17th Oct
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