Acer K272HLbid 27" VA LED DVI HDMI Monitor £129.99 (eBuyer)
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Acer K272HLbid 27" VA LED DVI HDMI Monitor £129.99 (eBuyer)

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Found 12th Sep 2014
I know the 2550x1440 monitors are more coveted when it comes to 27'', but this seems to be a very nice price for a 27'' Full HD (1920x1080) monitor

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It's low price because it's 6ms in response time, has 60hz max refresh rate and isn't IPS. So you'd have to want it only for it's size or because you specifically want VA for a 27" over IPS and TN.


Edited by: "plath" 12th Sep 2014

plath

It's low price because it's 6ms in response time, has 60hz max refresh … It's low price because it's 6ms in response time, has 60hz max refresh rate and isn't IPS. So you'd have to want it only for it's size or because you specifically want VA for a 27" over IPS and TN.



Don't mislead people. Nothing wrong with VA or 6 millisecond response time or 60Hz refresh rate either.

It's a low price because Acer screens are lower priced than others. That said, it is particularly low therefore hot. Same price as 23-24" Acer screens I've seen but it's !!BIGGER!! so it must be a good deal right?

(In my opinion, 27 inch at this resolution is stupider than for 21-24 inch screens but that's up to you, maybe you have a good reason)


Edited by: "wide" 12th Sep 2014

wide

Don't mislead people. Nothing wrong with VA or 6 millisecond response … Don't mislead people. Nothing wrong with VA or 6 millisecond response time or 60Hz refresh rate either.It's a low price because Acer screens are lower priced than others. That said, it is particularly low therefore hot. Same price as 23-24" Acer screens I've seen but it's !!BIGGER!! so it must be a good deal right?(In my opinion, 27 inch at this resolution is stupider than for 21-24 inch screens but that's up to you, maybe you have a good reason)



Well there is something wrong with it if you want a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor as it serves neither of those purposes as good as a more expensive TN or IPS panel. For people who just want a big monitor for whatever reason, it's great ofc

Isn't a VN Panel actually a good thing, it's an attempt to bridge the quality of image of an IPS panel, but speedy switching of a TN panel. I'm sure there's a market for someone who doesn't require the 2ms or less "gaming" speeds of TN panels while wanting better contrast and colour range of TN, while not needing the vibrant colour and depth of black on an IPS but not wanting the tearing and ghosting you see with IPS panels while gaming.

The size argument from 22-24 to 27 or larger while using the same 1920*1080 resolution fails to account that some people prefer to sit closer or further away from their monitors, thus a 27" would allow the monitor to be further away to see the same detail, like reading text which could lead to less eye strain due to close proximity with the bright LED screens.

plath

Well there is something wrong with it if you want a monitor with the best … Well there is something wrong with it if you want a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor as it serves neither of those purposes as good as a more expensive TN or IPS panel. For people who just want a big monitor for whatever reason, it's great ofc



Only you mentioned Gaming etc....if you were a gamer or needed an IPS Panel (Graphics etc)....and wanted 'a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor' then you wouldn't be looking at this anyway (According to you) but I'm sure there are plenty of non cork sniffers who would gladly game on this with no ill effect, no matter what it's used for it is cheap.
Edited by: "Likely2" 12th Sep 2014

Likely2

Only you mentioned Gaming etc....if you were a gamer and wanted 'a … Only you mentioned Gaming etc....if you were a gamer and wanted 'a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor' then you wouldn't be looking at this anyway (According to you) but I'm sure there are plenty of non cork sniffers who would gladly game on this with no ill effect, no matter what it's used for it is cheap.



You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most accurate colour. You could be someone who just wants to watch movies or edit images, etc. You can't tell what type of monitor it is until you click the link. Maybe they would be happy to game on this. Hoorah for them, but for others I'm giving them the details.

plath

You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most … You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most accurate colour. You could be someone who just wants to watch movies or edit images, etc. You can't tell what type of monitor it is until you click the link. Maybe they would be happy to game on this. Hoorah for them, but for others I'm giving them the details.



I don't think it's being picky to suggest you have your wires crossed - top level gamers benefit from more responsive screens at the expense of colour accuracy.


djvivid

Isn't a VN Panel actually a good thing, it's an attempt to bridge the … Isn't a VN Panel actually a good thing, it's an attempt to bridge the quality of image of an IPS panel, but speedy switching of a TN panel. I'm sure there's a market for someone who doesn't require the 2ms or less "gaming" speeds of TN panels while wanting better contrast and colour range of TN, while not needing the vibrant colour and depth of black on an IPS but not wanting the tearing and ghosting you see with IPS panels while gaming.The size argument from 22-24 to 27 or larger while using the same 1920*1080 resolution fails to account that some people prefer to sit closer or further away from their monitors, thus a 27" would allow the monitor to be further away to see the same detail, like reading text which could lead to less eye strain due to close proximity with the bright LED screens.



Turn the brightness down? Brightness is expressed per unit area so exactly the same readability Vs eye strain trade off is achievable on a larger screen further away as a slightly smaller one closer to you.

Far as I can figure out, the benefit to a larger screen without more pixels is if you *have to* sit further away e.g. a presentation to several people at once.

wide

I don't think it's being picky to suggest you have your wires crossed - … I don't think it's being picky to suggest you have your wires crossed - top level gamers benefit from more responsive screens at the expense of colour accuracy.Turn the brightness down? Brightness is expressed per unit area so exactly the same readability Vs eye strain trade off is achievable on a larger screen further away as a slightly smaller one closer to you. Far as I can figure out, the benefit to a larger screen without more pixels is if you *have to* sit further away e.g. a presentation to several people at once.



I know, that's why I use TN.

I said in my 2nd post "best colours or fast gaming". I differentiated two uses that this monitor isn't ideal in.

So what did you mean by:

plath

You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most … You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most accurate colour.



?

plath

You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most … You don't necessarily have to be a gamer to want a monitor with the most accurate colour.

Only you mentioned Gaming etc....if you were a gamer and wanted 'a … Only you mentioned Gaming etc....if you were a gamer and wanted 'a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor'


It was a reply to Likely2's: He mentioned gamers in regards to wanting the best colours. So I said there are many people who want the best colours, not just gamers.

OK now talk about the deal.

Great find OP heat!

According to the Girlfriend, size matters. Good spot.

Great price, have some heat

Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference between IPS / TN / LCD / TFT / whatever else?

For most of us who don't do gaming, and simply browse the web, and watch the occasional movie, what type is the best?
i.e. best colour representation?

I know that matte display is better (for eyes and viewing) over glossy (due to reflections), even though the latter looks more fashionable.

wide and plath

play nicely, children

I was thinking of using it as a cheap telly (i will supply my own tuner and soundbar). Would it be a better quality screen than say your usual supermarket consumer TV suspects?

ibnMuhammad_

Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference … Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference between IPS / TN / LCD / TFT / whatever else?For most of us who don't do gaming, and simply browse the web, and watch the occasional movie, what type is the best?i.e. best colour representation?I know that matte display is better (for eyes and viewing) over glossy (due to reflections), even though the latter looks more fashionable.



I'm going to say that for "most of us", the ones that aren't over-fussed with the sound quality from a TV's built-in "speakers", other factors such as size and cost are going to determine what monitor to buy, rather than fuss over-much about what technology it uses. After all, if you are only going to be doing the odd bit of film-watching, web-browsing and email for an hour or so a day, the quality of the experience isn't a major factor in life.

For those that choose, or have, to sit in front of a screen for unpteen hours a day, or do need accurate colour rendition, or a wide viewing angle, or fast response, or whatever - then the technology does matter and they will have to trade off other things (particularly money) to get right what matters to them.

Or have a mix. My work-bench is >1m wide and has two, 32 inch 1920x1080 "monitors" (OK, cheap TVs) wall-mounted behind it, that I use as computer monitors when prototype testing. The viewing distance is ~7ft. I've got a 24 inch 3840 x 2160 (OK, expensive) ceiling-mounted, hinge-down, monitor that I use when designing, with a viewing distance of ~ 2'6". The two roles of testing and designing have different requirements, when it comes to displays and "cheap and cheerful" "no-name" TVs would be all that I need, if I didn't have to design the stuff before prototyping it.





Banned

ibnMuhammad_

Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference … Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference between IPS / TN / LCD / TFT / whatever else?


Yes, Google.

HTH

Probably need Harry Hill to sort this one.

ibnMuhammad_

Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference … Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference between IPS / TN / LCD / TFT / whatever else?For most of us who don't do gaming, and simply browse the web, and watch the occasional movie, what type is the best?i.e. best colour representation?I know that matte display is better (for eyes and viewing) over glossy (due to reflections), even though the latter looks more fashionable.



More details and explanations here TFT Central

here you go IPSvsTN vs VA

djvivid

Isn't a VN Panel actually a good thing, it's an attempt to bridge the … Isn't a VN Panel actually a good thing, it's an attempt to bridge the quality of image of an IPS panel, but speedy switching of a TN panel. I'm sure there's a market for someone who doesn't require the 2ms or less "gaming" speeds of TN panels while wanting better contrast and colour range of TN, while not needing the vibrant colour and depth of black on an IPS but not wanting the tearing and ghosting you see with IPS panels while gaming.The size argument from 22-24 to 27 or larger while using the same 1920*1080 resolution fails to account that some people prefer to sit closer or further away from their monitors, thus a 27" would allow the monitor to be further away to see the same detail, like reading text which could lead to less eye strain due to close proximity with the bright LED screens.



VA*

Standard VA panels aren't that good (still better than TN), however if it's AHVA then it'll be a very nice panel. Not quite IPS, but you don't get slow response times and there is colour shift compared to TN.

Really not sure why anyone would want a 1080p 27" display? If you want that res, just get a cheaper 24".

Looks decent for the price.

ibnMuhammad_

Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference … Can someone kindly explain for us normal users, what's the difference between IPS / TN / LCD / TFT / whatever else?For most of us who don't do gaming, and simply browse the web, and watch the occasional movie, what type is the best?i.e. best colour representation?I know that matte display is better (for eyes and viewing) over glossy (due to reflections), even though the latter looks more fashionable.



My quick reply turned into a full blown blog post but the upshot is, if you have a panel that gets very dark when you tilt it back, it's a TN panel, the older of the technologies. Both IPS and VA have got past this and offer colour and brightness that's good at much wider viewing angles.

Avoid TN for the viewing angles reason alone. And +1 for matte screens.

Gaming-specific TN panels have very fast reactions but are often more expensive than IPS/VA screens that are in all other ways better. You only need that if you're rather serious about gaming and have the hardware to run it.

Edited by: "wide" 13th Sep 2014

plath

Well there is something wrong with it if you want a monitor with the best … Well there is something wrong with it if you want a monitor with the best colour or a fast gaming monitor as it serves neither of those purposes as good as a more expensive TN or IPS panel. For people who just want a big monitor for whatever reason, it's great ofc


Stop misleading people. This is a great deal, VA panels are BETTER than the cheap IPS ones, and contrast-wise, better than any IPS by a 3:1 ratio (yes, VA will offer up to 3 times better contrast). Color reproduction-wise, not much difference, unless you are talking about 10-bit IPS, but then again, those would be around £400.

£164.99 now
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