Acer NX.GC2EK.007 Chromebook CB3-431 14 -Full HD, 4 GB RAM, 32GB  - Silver £191.23 Used, like new (damaged packaging) Amazon warehouse £191.23 @ Amazon (Prime Day Deal)
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Acer NX.GC2EK.007 Chromebook CB3-431 14 -Full HD, 4 GB RAM, 32GB - Silver £191.23 Used, like new (damaged packaging) Amazon warehouse £191.23 @ Amazon (Prime Day Deal)

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Found 17th Jul
Used, like new (damaged packaging). 20% taken off at checkout.

Seems like a great price.
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I have this laptop and its simply amazing,

While a lot of people here are recommending the windows laptop, I can think of 2 major reasons for the chromebook.

- Battery Life (I love having a laptop that actually lasts all day)
- Google Play

you never have to worry about stupid updates eating your storage, the build quality is amazing.
Edited by: "mr.deville" 17th Jul
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"Was" a great price! What a price! Nice spot!
Looks very good to me, nice find @rustybin
With the non HD version around £125 I wouldn't go for this. Not least because the HD version makes most text too small for anyone over 40 to comfortably read!
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 17th Jul
£250 new selling in Argos but in gold color.

Link: Argos
Edited by: "sunnydurian" 17th Jul
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Cheaper, faster CPU 4 cores 4 threads, Windows 10 licence ( you can install chrome, its free I think) I don't know if this acer will take m.2 drive but with the Iota you can expand the storage with m.2 2242 ssd, (shorter version)
jazzuk7771 h, 7 m ago

With the non HD version around £125 I wouldn't go for this. Not least …With the non HD version around £125 I wouldn't go for this. Not least because the HD version makes most text too small for anyone over 40 to comfortably read!


Just use the scaling/zoom function to change to whatever setting suits you. HD / 1080p is a boon for watching videos - much more detail, crisper picture - much better for people over 40 and anyone else!
Chromebooks for £200 are pretty much dead IMO ever since Windows laptops started appearing at this price with aluminium build, 1080p IPS, N4200, 4/6GB RAM, 64GB eMMC etc.
jazzuk7771 h, 29 m ago

With the non HD version around £125 I wouldn't go for this. Not least …With the non HD version around £125 I wouldn't go for this. Not least because the HD version makes most text too small for anyone over 40 to comfortably read!


I.really recommend go for the better screen, the Full-HD version has high quality IPS display, the cheaper Non Full-HD has washed out fuzzy TN screen.
If you find the text too small, you can scale down the resolution to 1536x864 in display setting. The CPU is slightly better on this too.
win261 m ago

I.really recommend go for the better screen, the Full-HD version has high …I.really recommend go for the better screen, the Full-HD version has high quality IPS display, the cheaper Non Full-HD has washed out fuzzy TN screen.If you find the text too small, you can scale down the resolution to 1536x864 in display setting. The CPU is slightly better on this too.


The scaling doesn't work very well, I've tried.
Picard12329 m ago

Chromebooks for £200 are pretty much dead IMO ever since Windows laptops …Chromebooks for £200 are pretty much dead IMO ever since Windows laptops started appearing at this price with aluminium build, 1080p IPS, N4200, 4/6GB RAM, 64GB eMMC etc.


I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better experience than an equivalent Windows machine. The OS requires far less resources, and doesn't require an absurd amount of drivers and bloat to work.

If you can live with Chrome OS or are using this as a second machine, it's a great purchase for this price.
mrcheesecake6 m ago

I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better …I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better experience than an equivalent Windows machine. The OS requires far less resources, and doesn't require an absurd amount of drivers and bloat to work.If you can live with Chrome OS or are using this as a second machine, it's a great purchase for this price.


Not so sure. The n3060/n3160/n2840 series are dogs, and whilst the os is fast, web page rendering is not.

The n4200 processor in the iota and other low end Windows machines runs quite a bit better. I'm gutted that the n3450 / n4200 didn't appear in many Chromebooks as Chrome OS is so quick and simple.
jazzuk77717 m ago

The scaling doesn't work very well, I've tried.


That's odd, looks fantastic on mine.
win2616 m ago

That's odd, looks fantastic on mine.


Looks fantastic but still very small.
You can now print from chromebooks without having to use google cloud print. Don't know when it was introduced, but it works fine with my networked colour laser. Makes chromebooks an even more sensible option.
mrcheesecake28 m ago

I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better …I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better experience than an equivalent Windows machine.


It won't - I've got one, as well several Windows laptops!

Chromebooks were a great innovation several years ago when they were first released - snappy, light footprint etc - at a time when cheap Windows laptops still cost £300+ and horrible 15.6" brick like machines. Since then, ChromeOS has become more bloated (the login that used to be snappy takes several seconds now - so much for instant on), Google have basically killed ChromeOS development (still no support for alot of video codecs for example, PITA print options etc) to concentrate on Android, and Windows laptops and component prices have come down in price so much that you can get nice entry level Windows machine for around £200 that's superior in every way to a Chromebook at the same price. When you throw in the vast amount of available software in the Windows ecosystem, it becomes a non-argument.
I have this laptop and its simply amazing,

While a lot of people here are recommending the windows laptop, I can think of 2 major reasons for the chromebook.

- Battery Life (I love having a laptop that actually lasts all day)
- Google Play

you never have to worry about stupid updates eating your storage, the build quality is amazing.
Edited by: "mr.deville" 17th Jul
Picard1232 h, 26 m ago

It won't - I've got one, as well several Windows laptops!Chromebooks were …It won't - I've got one, as well several Windows laptops!Chromebooks were a great innovation several years ago when they were first released - snappy, light footprint etc - at a time when cheap Windows laptops still cost £300+ and horrible 15.6" brick like machines. Since then, ChromeOS has become more bloated (the login that used to be snappy takes several seconds now - so much for instant on), Google have basically killed ChromeOS development (still no support for alot of video codecs for example, PITA print options etc) to concentrate on Android, and Windows laptops and component prices have come down in price so much that you can get nice entry level Windows machine for around £200 that's superior in every way to a Chromebook at the same price. When you throw in the vast amount of available software in the Windows ecosystem, it becomes a non-argument.


Google have absolutely not 'basically killed ChromeOS development'. They have been working integrating Android app compatibility into ChromeOS and more recently Linux software compatibility as well. I don't know about this specific Chromebook whether Android app/Linux application compatibility is available or planned, but Google have done nothing but make ChromeOS more fully featured.

If they didn't do this, you would say that ChromeOS doesn't do anything and it's just a browser, but they DO do it and you say ChromeOS is bloated. They can't win with you.

I just timed a login from a cold start on mine. 3 seconds and Chrome was loaded, 5 seconds and a web page up (and this was with about half a dozen tabs opened). Not that this even matters because they really aren't designed to be cold starting all the time. They are designed to be picked up and opened, closed and put down, and always ready to go, and you're back in instantly.

From what I have seen equivalent-price Windows laptops are pretty much always junk (hardware-wise) compared to Chromebooks, though no doubt you'll pull some mythical super-powered super-cheap Chinese import laptop from somewhere to refute this, but whatever....

When I can get a really nice no-maintenance laptop that is a pleasure to use (with no updating/security/virus/spyware issues) and also allows me to use Android apps/games (the same ones I use already on my phone and tablet), and with the added flexibility of running Linux applications as well, I honestly don't see why most people would even consider a Windows laptop (when these features become mainstream - Android app compatibility already is for new devices and Linux application compatibility is moving fast).

With the recent release of a ChromeOS tablet it may be the case that future tablets will be running primarily ChromeOS, but with the ability to also run Android apps. Thus benefiting from having a proper full desktop browser, while still allowing use of all your Android apps. ChromeOS can even make Android tablets better.

It really does become a non-argument.
PurplePerson5 m ago

no doubt you'll pull some mythical super-powered super-cheap Chinese …no doubt you'll pull some mythical super-powered super-cheap Chinese import laptop from somewhere to refute this,



hotukdeals.com/dea…266
r4do4 h, 14 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/used-iota-slim-14-fhd-ips-metal-laptop-intel-quad-core-pentium-n4200-burst-25ghz-processor-4-gb-ram-32-gb-emmc-storage-qwerty-uk-keyboard-windows-10-expandable-storage-m2-2242-145-amazon-warehouse-2984473Cheaper, faster CPU 4 cores 4 threads, Windows 10 licence ( you can install chrome, its free I think) I don't know if this acer will take m.2 drive but with the Iota you can expand the storage with m.2 2242 ssd, (shorter version)


Was the deal in the op £191 before or after the 20%? No contest if the latter.
Picard1232 h, 10 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-swift-1-133-inch-full-hd-intel-110ghz-4gb-64gb-windows-10-laptop-silver-21399-argos-refurbished-with-a-12-month-argos-guarantee-2940266


I bet the 32gb Chromebook will run out of storage way way after that windows 10 then I suppose the battery will suck also but then again they are 2 different products so people should buy what will suit them.
Edited by: "mr.deville" 18th Jul
mr.deville18th Jul

I bet the 32gb Chromebook will run out of storage way way after that …I bet the 32gb Chromebook will run out of storage way way after that windows 10 then I suppose the battery will suck also but then again they are 2 different products so people should buy what will suit them.


Do people really use significant local storage in 2018?

I'll be using this for Word processing, email and surfing. I've got my MacBook Pro for anything more.
Edited by: "rustybin" 18th Jul
mr.deville18th Jul

I bet the 32gb Chromebook will run out of storage way way after that …I bet the 32gb Chromebook will run out of storage way way after that windows 10 then I suppose the battery will suck also but then again they are 2 different products so people should buy what will suit them.


My Chromebook ran out of storage first simply because 32GB is miniscule these days. People talk about "storing everything in the cloud" but in the real world that's pretty laughable with 1.4GB files, travelling from one place to the next, constant reliance on a good, fast secure, internet connection (no, that's not Starbucks). I had to run it with a 128GB flash drive permanently plugged in.

As for the battery, I got about 8.5-9 hours from my Chromebook when brand new. I get about 2 hours from it now. I get about 8-9 hours from my Surface Pro.
PurplePerson8 h, 24 m ago

Google have absolutely not 'basically killed ChromeOS development'. They …Google have absolutely not 'basically killed ChromeOS development'. They have been working integrating Android app compatibility into ChromeOS and more recently Linux software compatibility as well.


ChromeOS isn't that much different to what it was 7 or 8 years ago. A few security fixes here and there, desktop wallpaper options and silly stuff like that. There have been no major usability enhancements for what is a very limited OS. Even doing very basic tasks like trying to play video files is like an ordeal from the 1990s due to the lack of codec support and video players.
Picard12332 m ago

My Chromebook ran out of storage first simply because 32GB is miniscule …My Chromebook ran out of storage first simply because 32GB is miniscule these days. People talk about "storing everything in the cloud" but in the real world that's pretty laughable with 1.4GB files, travelling from one place to the next, constant reliance on a good, fast secure, internet connection (no, that's not Starbucks). I had to run it with a 128GB flash drive permanently plugged in.As for the battery, I got about 8.5-9 hours from my Chromebook when brand new. I get about 2 hours from it now. I get about 8-9 hours from my Surface Pro.


Sounds like the Chromebook was originally the the wrong choice. All what you explained what was wrong you could have found out with a little research.
mr.deville18th Jul

Sounds like the Chromebook was originally the the wrong choice. All what …Sounds like the Chromebook was originally the the wrong choice. All what you explained what was wrong you could have found out with a little research.


Right choice, wrong choice......I like seeing things for myself. Like I said in one of the earlier posts, Google basically killed development of ChromeOS because they thought Android could be made to scale as a desktop OS (it can't). If they would have put proper development resources into ChromeOS, it could have been a great OS with 8 years of development. As it stands, it really not much different to the very limited OS released in 2009 and Google are instead working on OS projects like Fuscia etc.
Picard1232 h, 2 m ago

ChromeOS isn't that much different to what it was 7 or 8 years ago. A few …ChromeOS isn't that much different to what it was 7 or 8 years ago. A few security fixes here and there, desktop wallpaper options and silly stuff like that. There have been no major usability enhancements for what is a very limited OS. Even doing very basic tasks like trying to play video files is like an ordeal from the 1990s due to the lack of codec support and video players.


So adding in play store support for Android apps wasn't that much of a big change?
mr.deville18th Jul

So adding in play store support for Android apps wasn't that much of a big …So adding in play store support for Android apps wasn't that much of a big change?


It's a big change to how limited it was before, but it's a fudged solution because Android simply isn't a desktop OS. It's built for touch, swipe etc, doesn't scale well (there are scaling problems even with Android on tablets) etc. Being able to play 'Angry Birds' on a laptop is hardly a great innovation. It doesn't get around the storage issues either.
Picard1231 h, 11 m ago

It's a big change to how limited it was before, but it's a fudged solution …It's a big change to how limited it was before, but it's a fudged solution because Android simply isn't a desktop OS. It's built for touch, swipe etc, doesn't scale well (there are scaling problems even with Android on tablets) etc. Being able to play 'Angry Birds' on a laptop is hardly a great innovation. It doesn't get around the storage issues either.


We could both do this all day about the "pros" and "cons" and who has the better OS but to put it simply, people should research what meets there needs and decide for themselves. My Chromebook does exactly what I need it to do for the price point I wanted.

And if the storage sucked for you then obviously you didn't calculate that in to your research.
Edited by: "mr.deville" 18th Jul
mr.deville18th Jul

We could both do this all day about the "pros" and "cons" and who has the …We could both do this all day about the "pros" and "cons" and who has the better OS but to put it simply, people should research what meets there needs and decide for themselves. My Chromebook does exactly what I need it to do for the price point I wanted.And if the storage sucked for you then obviously you didn't calculate that in to your research.


It's pretty obvious that Windows 10 is the vastly superior OS because of vast range of compatible Windows software available. The question isn't whether its better, it's whether you can live with what is basically a sandboxed browser (ChromeOS).
Picard1234 m ago

It's pretty obvious that Windows 10 is the vastly superior OS because of …It's pretty obvious that Windows 10 is the vastly superior OS because of vast range of compatible Windows software available. The question isn't whether its better, it's whether you can live with what is basically a sandboxed browser (ChromeOS).


I'm not sure if you are joking or trolling at this point?
Picard12314 m ago

It's pretty obvious that Windows 10 is the vastly superior OS because of …It's pretty obvious that Windows 10 is the vastly superior OS because of vast range of compatible Windows software available. The question isn't whether its better, it's whether you can live with what is basically a sandboxed browser (ChromeOS).


Let me put in terms you may understand.

If all you want is a browser, Internet access and cloud access why would windows 10 be "far" superior?

If you have a family would a Ferrari suit your needs even though it's "far" superior?

Of course not, that cheap people carrier would do a better job.

But if you switch it around,

Would a people carrier be better on a race track?

Of course not.


I am hoping you are starting to understand my posts a little better now, I know it's a little hard to listen to reason when you have your head somewhere the sun doesn't shine.

As I said, it all depends on yours need's and obviously from your hate on Chromebooks they wasn't for you so please feel free to stop crying about it.
mr.deville18th Jul

If all you want is a browser, Internet access and cloud access


If all I wanted was a browser, internet access and cloud access, I would use my phone. I wouldn't waste £200 on a Chromebook. For that sort of money, you can buy a proper Windows 10 laptop with superior hardware and software capabilities....
Picard12336 m ago

If all I wanted was a browser, internet access and cloud access, I would …If all I wanted was a browser, internet access and cloud access, I would use my phone. I wouldn't waste £200 on a Chromebook. For that sort of money, you can buy a proper Windows 10 laptop with superior hardware and software capabilities....


Does your phone have 14 inch IPS screen, keyboard, 100gb free cloud, a normal HDMI socket, Usb 3 ports and does your phone last all day?

I'm sure I would look very professional showing my clients there project on my phone lol.

Superior hardware at £200 and using widows? now you are just being funny

Whilst you can buy a windows laptop for £200 does not mean it's a good idea, with that kinda price point you are gonna be looking at 4GB and a rubbish CPU paired with a terrible battery so that superior software now means nothing.
mr.deville18th Jul

Does your phone have 14 inch IPS screen, keyboard, 100gb free cloud, a …Does your phone have 14 inch IPS screen, keyboard, 100gb free cloud, a normal HDMI socket, Usb 3 ports and does your phone last all day?I'm sure I would look very professional showing my clients there project on my phone lol.Superior hardware at £200 and using widows? now you are just being funnyWhilst you can buy a windows laptop for £200 does not mean it's a good idea, with that kinda price point you are gonna be looking at 4GB and a rubbish CPU paired with a terrible battery so that superior software now means nothing.


You wouldn't be showing many projects on Chromebooks since it doesn't have all of the compatibility or functionality of industry standard software. Buying a Chromebook for business is about the worst thing you can do.
Picard12321 m ago

You wouldn't be showing many projects on Chromebooks since it doesn't have …You wouldn't be showing many projects on Chromebooks since it doesn't have all of the compatibility or functionality of industry standard software. Buying a Chromebook for business is about the worst thing you can do.


You have no idea what business I have so please do not make assumptions about my life, as you have now obviously run out of valid arguments about laptops I will now end this discussion with a simple " I win".

Have fun with your "far superior" windows 10 device.
Edited by: "mr.deville" 18th Jul
mr.deville18th Jul

You have no idea what business I have so please do not make assumptions …You have no idea what business I have so please do not make assumptions about my life, as you have now obviously run out of valid arguments about laptops I will now end this discussion with a simple " I win".Have fun with your "far superior" windows 10 device.


Nobody uses ChromeOS is any serious business as there's so much that it can't run or isn't compatible with. ChromeOS is for schools and similar environments where all they need is a sandboxed browser.
Picard1231 h, 4 m ago

Nobody uses ChromeOS is any serious business as there's so much that it …Nobody uses ChromeOS is any serious business as there's so much that it can't run or isn't compatible with. ChromeOS is for schools and similar environments where all they need is a sandboxed browser.


Don't lie its not becoming.

and I take it nobody uses android in a work environment either.

lol
Edited by: "mr.deville" 18th Jul
Picard12317th Jul

It won't - I've got one, as well several Windows laptops!Chromebooks were …It won't - I've got one, as well several Windows laptops!Chromebooks were a great innovation several years ago when they were first released - snappy, light footprint etc - at a time when cheap Windows laptops still cost £300+ and horrible 15.6" brick like machines. Since then, ChromeOS has become more bloated (the login that used to be snappy takes several seconds now - so much for instant on), Google have basically killed ChromeOS development (still no support for alot of video codecs for example, PITA print options etc) to concentrate on Android, and Windows laptops and component prices have come down in price so much that you can get nice entry level Windows machine for around £200 that's superior in every way to a Chromebook at the same price. When you throw in the vast amount of available software in the Windows ecosystem, it becomes a non-argument.



SClub17th Jul

Not so sure. The n3060/n3160/n2840 series are dogs, and whilst the os is …Not so sure. The n3060/n3160/n2840 series are dogs, and whilst the os is fast, web page rendering is not. The n4200 processor in the iota and other low end Windows machines runs quite a bit better. I'm gutted that the n3450 / n4200 didn't appear in many Chromebooks as Chrome OS is so quick and simple.



mrcheesecake17th Jul

I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better …I can guarantee a Chromebook at this price/spec will offer a far better experience than an equivalent Windows machine. The OS requires far less resources, and doesn't require an absurd amount of drivers and bloat to work.If you can live with Chrome OS or are using this as a second machine, it's a great purchase for this price.



Well... we'll see about all that, because I have an Acer Chromebook 14 and just bought the Acer Swift 1, largely on Picard's recommendation, since Argos had the Gold version refurbished for a mad £160 (was the last one, sorry). Here's hoping the cosmetics won't be like the surface of the moon, as I imagine,

I've been using the Chromebook 14 exclusively for some time, running Ubuntu rather than ChromeOS, and was ready to argue, but I think the counter is true. The Swift 1 basically *is* the Chromebook 14 with a smattering of upgrades. More flexible OS, larger and upgradeable storage, better connectivity, plus a somewhat better processor. Screen appears to be a touch brighter too, which was the only part of the CB I was outright unhappy with as it was difficult to use outdoors. And bear in mind that in this particular case Argos maintains a proper warranty, Amazon Warehouse offers no such luck.

While I love both the Chromebook 14 and Linux, both come with fairly hefty drawbacks in terms of software limitations or trivial tasks becoming a project. Chromebook's selling point has *always* been absurdly good value hardware with software being the trade-off. Without as much of an advantage, I'm a little disillusioned. If there's a rare occasion where there's an alternative with a price within spitting/proportional distance, it's worth considering. The specifics of the choice are... a very long discussion.

You can, after all, put Linux on the Swift 1. But that might be missing the point.
Edited by: "EndemicAlarm" 20th Jul
EndemicAlarm40 m ago

Well... we'll see about all that, because I have an Acer Chromebook 14 and …Well... we'll see about all that, because I have an Acer Chromebook 14 and just bought the Acer Swift 1, largely on Picard's recommendation, since Argos had the Gold version refurbished for a mad £160 (was the last one, sorry). Here's hoping the cosmetics won't be like the surface of the moon, as I imagine,I've been using the Chromebook 14 exclusively for some time, running Ubuntu rather than ChromeOS, and was ready to argue, but I think the counter is true. The Swift 1 basically *is* the Chromebook 14 with a smattering of upgrades. More flexible OS, larger and upgradeable storage, better connectivity, plus a somewhat better processor. Screen appears to be a touch brighter too, which was the only part of the CB I was outright unhappy with as it was difficult to use outdoors. And bear in mind that in this particular case Argos maintains a proper warranty, Amazon Warehouse offers no such luck.While I love both the Chromebook 14 and Linux, both come with fairly hefty drawbacks in terms of software limitations or trivial tasks becoming a project. Chromebook's selling point has *always* been absurdly good value hardware with software being the trade-off. Without as much of an advantage, I'm a little disillusioned. If there's a rare occasion where there's an alternative with a price within spitting/proportional distance, it's worth considering. The specifics of the choice are... a very long discussion.You can, after all, put Linux on the Swift 1. But that might be missing the point.


Glad somebody came in with a genuine valid point.
mr.deville20th Jul

Glad somebody came in with a genuine valid point.


I'm not sure how valid my point is. I was, after all, not technically using it as a Chromebook and never intended to.

Using it as a full-blown laptop meant I had to buy 128Gb nano USB stick for another £35 odd. The plan was to use it in ChromeOS as well, to save cloud-syncing the same thing across multiple operating systems, but last I checked a few months ago ChromeOS still had not got proper USB storage working, so I had to stick with Ubuntu. And 32Gb divided into two was insufficient for dual-booting without USB storage, so having an Android-substitute tablet was out

Since my bluetooth mouse worked in ChromeOS but not Ubuntu, I had to use a USB mouse receiver, which left me with no spare USB slot.

And so on...

I'm not sorry I went that route, there was nothing else that even came close at the time and it is a phenomenally nice build for the money. You could easily pay a lot more and get something less nice. Surprised to find the gold looks much better IMO, it's quite subtle.

But you do have to be sure you'll be OK with the limits. I was, but nonetheless sometimes I felt myself yearning for a computer which just worked properly and would have paid a bit more for it.
Edited by: "EndemicAlarm" 20th Jul
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