Acer Revo RL80 Nettop PC, Intel Celeron 1007 1.5GHz,USB 3.0, 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD, NOOPT, Intel HD, Wifi, Free DOS for £139.98 (£119.98 after cashback) @ Ebuyer
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Acer Revo RL80 Nettop PC, Intel Celeron 1007 1.5GHz,USB 3.0, 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD, NOOPT, Intel HD, Wifi, Free DOS for £139.98 (£119.98 after cashback) @ Ebuyer

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Found 6th Nov 2013
Now £10 cheaper than the previous posting

Easy enough to put Windows / Linux on it if you wish - Have a revo and really can't fault it.

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61 Comments

Would this be suitable for installing XBMC on?

These are idea as XBMC players

Banned

Is it possible to install ssd in this Nettop?

have the previous version of this,

waste of money as too slow to do anything.

cambb

These are idea as XBMC players



There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had to compile your own Linux installation to get it to load although some of the most recent distros have created support. The Intel graphics are considered to be poor compared to previous Revo's and so do some research if you intend using this for XBMC, there are likely to be better options out there.

alxx666

Is it possible to install ssd in this Nettop?


I have the L70, which cosmetically looks the same as this. With the L70, you can install an SSD but there is only room inside the case to remove the old drive and replace it with the SSD, you wont be able to leave the HDD in.

I did this a couple of weeks ago, but to get at the screws that hold the existing HDD in place you have to strip the whole unit down, which means taking out the motherboard and removing the heatsink/fan from the processor chip. So when you reassemble you'll need to replace the thermal paste. Not really a job for a novice.

I had something similar the Q180. They're way too slow. You want atleast an i3 or XBMC won't perform well with heavy themes.

Went to buy one and came up with unconfirmed paypal address and would add 2 days to shipping and charge me £7.99. Never happened before, not going to order though that with them again. My paypal address is confirmed

My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to play a normal resolution film,

This one sounds like it might take 5 minutes to even boot up !!

KM4353

I had something similar the Q180. They're way too slow. You want atleast … I had something similar the Q180. They're way too slow. You want atleast an i3 or XBMC won't perform well with heavy themes.



i3? My 2 year old revo works extremely well, and that's just got a little atom processor. Surely i3 would be overkill? A raspberry pi does a reasonable job.

I don't know too much about the hardware though. Are these an 'improvement' on the older revos? Because I've had two and I really can't fault them

tyrano

My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to … My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to play a normal resolution film,This one sounds like it might take 5 minutes to even boot up !!



4mb of ram? No wonder...

Lowtrawler

There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had … There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had to compile your own Linux installation to get it to load although some of the most recent distros have created support. The Intel graphics are considered to be poor compared to previous Revo's and so do some research if you intend using this for XBMC, there are likely to be better options out there.



I didn't realise that - I have a (very) old original Revo which is still going and has done me very well for many years considering the £100 I paid for it (it still does 1080p in XBMC while being cable tied to the back of a 55" TV!). I had assumed this would be a good upgrade but will think again. Although if there are distro problems I wonder if the generic build of Openelec would be an option.

Not voted either way because although the deal is cheap it is with eBuyer who have a dubious RMA policy... which I discovered to my cost earlier this year.

sancho1983

i3? My 2 year old revo works extremely well, and that's just got a little … i3? My 2 year old revo works extremely well, and that's just got a little atom processor. Surely i3 would be overkill? A raspberry pi does a reasonable job. I don't know too much about the hardware though. Are these an 'improvement' on the older revos? Because I've had two and I really can't fault them



Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a Raspberry PI. Your 2 year old Revo might work fine for you, but wouldn't for me.

tyrano

My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to … My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to play a normal resolution film,This one sounds like it might take 5 minutes to even boot up !!



Wow, with specs like that it would struggle! This one has over 500 times the amount of RAM yours has so it should fare better.

(Joking aside, I think you meant GHz and GB respectively, unless you too are joking)

Moving on, these are pretty disappointing in performance when used as a traditional "PC", but that isn't what they were made for. Note that it comes with FreeDOS preinstalled. That's a clear indicator of its performance.

That said, specs-wise it should be alright in terms of media streaming.

KM4353

Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a … Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a Raspberry PI. Your 2 year old Revo might work fine for you, but wouldn't for me.



I think we're moving into the more subjective territory, bordering with "enthusiast" here. I stream Blu-Ray rips because I enjoy the level of quality, so none of these Revos would really work too well for me.

SD and more heavily-compressed HD should play fine on this though, but advertising it as being able to play HD can lead to all kinds of debates since "HD" is such a loose term. My webcam is "HD". Would they have used it to film Avatar? Hell no.

If I'm not mistaken earlier Revo's had intel Atom 330 which were never very fast, this Celeron 1007 - the celeron is nearly 3times better on that benchmark and is an ivy bridge based CPU so I'd hope a far better performer than the Atom CPU revo's

So for the price I think it's a great deal but will it cut the HD mustard for people? I don't know. I suspect it'd make a pretty nifty add on for an LCD to make it a bit more smart though.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 6th Nov 2013

Banned

Lowtrawler

There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had … There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had to compile your own Linux installation to get it to load although some of the most recent distros have created support. The Intel graphics are considered to be poor compared to previous Revo's and so do some research if you intend using this for XBMC, there are likely to be better options out there.



not with this chipset. The NM70 is a great box for openelec. I have a chinese import NM70 with the celeron C1037U 1.8Ghz and it is an absolute dreambox running AEON Nox with ease. Finally a chipset with the right performance and price

KM4353

Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a … Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a Raspberry PI. Your 2 year old Revo might work fine for you, but wouldn't for me.



fairly serious about A/V and the Atom based Revo R3610 is sh** hot with XBMCBuntu or OpenElec etc. Can't comment on the newer models like this deal though.

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Lowtrawler

There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had … There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had to compile your own Linux installation to get it to load although some of the most recent distros have created support. The Intel graphics are considered to be poor compared to previous Revo's and so do some research if you intend using this for XBMC, there are likely to be better options out there.



not with this chipset. The NM70 is a great box for openelec. I have a chinese import NM70 with the celeron C1037U 1.8Ghz and it is an absolute dreambox running AEON Nox with ease. Finally a chipset with the right performance and price

If not this, then what are people using for their HTPCs? I have a RPi with OpenElec, but it can be a little slow with the Aeon theme.

KM4353

Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a … Not for me. Anybody serious about their A/V equipment would never use a Raspberry PI. Your 2 year old Revo might work fine for you, but wouldn't for me.



Why? It streams 1080p no problem. 20gb+ files too. No lag with any skin I've used. Can't see the benefit purely for an xbmc machine


How noisy is this thing ? Would it be suitable to run XBMC in a living room and not be bothered by fan etc ?

Lowtrawler

There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had … There are problems with the RL80 as an XBMC box. Until recently, you had to compile your own Linux installation to get it to load although some of the most recent distros have created support. The Intel graphics are considered to be poor compared to previous Revo's and so do some research if you intend using this for XBMC, there are likely to be better options out there.



I bought one a couple of weeks ago, have win 8.1 pro, office 2013+ and xbmc all running without any probs! lag or crashes.
Great bit of kit for the money, not a games machine obviously but nob on for most other things

Philipio

How noisy is this thing ? Would it be suitable to run XBMC in a living … How noisy is this thing ? Would it be suitable to run XBMC in a living room and not be bothered by fan etc ?


Mines in my lounge behind the tv, I hear a beep when it powers up but that's about it. Can't say I've heard a fan, sitting about 6 feet away

chedixon

Mines in my lounge behind the tv, I hear a beep when it powers up but … Mines in my lounge behind the tv, I hear a beep when it powers up but that's about it. Can't say I've heard a fan, sitting about 6 feet away



Cheers

I don't really see the point of these machines - they don't have enough processing power for today's needs.

Add my two penneth as I own one.

Its a pretty decent machine as a desktop. I don't game on it but handles office, and basic photo editting etc. hd iPlayer works too.
Openelec now works well... it didn't a few months ago.

Definitely better than the r3600 which still fetches 80 odd quid on eBay. I'm not convinced its better than the r3610 but the difference is marginal. (Have one down stairs)
At this price you won't be dissapointed after a little tinker. Get rid of free dos and install a useable os and you're good to go!

I think that lots of issues get confused here, and people who (supposedly) speak with some actual experience tend to post in short-hand, making the advice difficult to access for those wanting to understand.
At the risk of trying to make myself an expert (I am not, however i do have some general PC experience as well as running XBMC on windows, on Linux, and made OpenELEC machines both on Rasp Pi and regular hardware) i shall weigh in here.

Will this run XBMC?
Certainly yes. If your wish is to install a generic Linux distro (eg Ubuntu), you can then install XBMC as a program to run within that. It should run absolutely fine, plus will give you greater flexibility to run other stuff on your TV such as web browsers, Steam etc (although the hardware on this wont allow a great deal beyond old games eg 5+ years old).
I'd personally strongly recommend installing OpenELEC however to get that 'appliance' feeling, ie you press the power on and winthin 30 seconds you are in the XBMC interface. A fairly smooth and "family-friendly" way to do things.

Will this run XBMC well?
This is a sticking point, and depends what you mean.
Can it play back files? Yes, definitely, including 1080p rips with DTS audio etc. I can't hand on my heart vouch for very high bit-rate files, such as 1:1 Blu Ray rips (ie no further compression), however for more 'typical' files (eg a 90 min film = 10Gig file size) you will be fine PROVIDED your storage subsystem doesn't introduce additional bottlenecks.

But what about the menu and skins people keep talking about?
Here is the point of contention (i think). A Raspberry Pi will run XBMC, and play back 1080p files very smoothly HOWEVER the menu system, especially once loaded with a heavier than normal (ie aesthetically better) skin, starts to chug along, with long delays between pressing a button and seeing the action. This may only be half a second, but when you start ploughing through menus, those half seconds add up in to a frustrating experience.
Given that the file playback tends in vast majority of cases to be off-loaded to the GPU these days (and nearly all, inc Intel graphics, are good enough for this), the CPU tends to be a factor in the perceived smoothness of the menu system (ie the overall 'feel' of using XBMC).

So will this machine be good enough?
Honestly, i dont know as I havent used it (sorry - i said i wasnt an expert).
However a quick glance at Intel's website shows me a dual core CPU based on (i think) Ivy Bridge tech, running at 1.5Ghz. This will blast anything Atom-based out of the water, CPU-wise. This, to my best guess, will mean that the menu system will be acceptable-to-good in terms of responsiveness.

And the file playback visual quality? Will it be as good as a Blu Ray player?
The Integrated graphics DOESNT have alot of post-processing type support (hand a read around Anandtech for more on the subject) but arguably this is where people's subjective views about "acceptable" and "good enough" come in to play. If you are the sort of person who's happy enough to get a £300 TV from tesco, then i'd bet money this level of visual quality is good enough from you. On the other hand, if you insist on £1000+ mid to high-range displays, then this computer wont cut the visual mustard for you.

In summary
I'd happily buy this computer and install OpenELEC on it for my mum.
I wouldn't have it in my own home.
Edited by: "Msic" 6th Nov 2013

This wont playback full 3D, only the 720 or 1080p sized SBS rips, right?

sancho1983

Why? It streams 1080p no problem. 20gb+ files too. No lag with any skin … Why? It streams 1080p no problem. 20gb+ files too. No lag with any skin I've used. Can't see the benefit purely for an xbmc machine



I have had absolutely zero issues with my 4 year old Revo so far, running Aeon Nox and streaming 45gb Bluray rips.

I am therefore genuinely curious to know why a 2 year old Revo wouldn't work for you. I am conscious that my R3610 is aging a little and I keep looking out for suitable replacements, but nothing has swayed me yet. What do you plan to do with yours that requires more power?

tyrano

My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to … My Lenovo nettop is dual core 2.13 MHz with 4mb of ram and struggles to play a normal resolution film,This one sounds like it might take 5 minutes to even boot up !!



Its normally the GPU that provides the film decode playback. I have fairly old Revo 3600/3610 Atom 1.6 MHz/2GB using nVidia ION and it play films fine with no stuttering etc.

Make sure you have selected correct drivers or playback video hardware selected depending which software you are using (XBMC etc.)




Edited by: "steve28" 6th Nov 2013

plex.

Another happy R3610 owner here. Perfectly acceptable performance running openELEC and Aeon Nox. Although I did upgrade to an SSD, I stream BRRips from my NAS with no visible lag. I have a £600 Samsung LED TV (so not a tesco buyer!) and have not noticed any picture issues either.

Though I am interested in one of these to setup as a multi console emulator. Can anyone comment on its suitability in that respect?

I've got this machine with Windows 8 preinstalled to replace my power-hungry old gaming PC. I use it as a daily driver for browsing, downloading, streaming to a couple of Ouyas, and remote work over VPN.
I thought it'd be slow but as long as you tune the Windows 8 installation and clean up the start-up list it runs great. Earlier I was playing CS:Source at 1600x1060 (or something) and it looked great and ran smoothly. It plays most of the Humble Bundle games I've bought. Well worth the money and uses relatively little power.

I have this model, runs XBMC like a dream, Aeon Nox skin too.

Has played everything I have thrown at it, good price, spec and performance.

I run OpenElec XBMC on a bunch of machines, the slowest one is a single core Atom 230/Ion system. It runs fast even with Aeon skin and it's several times less powerful than this.

There have been huge optimisations in XBMC in recent years (and more still coming) due to the popularity of RPi and various other low-end ARM systems, and those improvements also benefit nettops like this (which are dozens of times more powerful anyway). Anyone who thinks this will be too slow for XBMC doesn't know what they are talking about.

The only thing it won't do is frame-packed 3D which is basically like decoding a 3840x1080 frame.

sancho1983

Why? It streams 1080p no problem. 20gb+ files too. No lag with any skin … Why? It streams 1080p no problem. 20gb+ files too. No lag with any skin I've used. Can't see the benefit purely for an xbmc machine

Mine too. Silly talk by Mr KM I think.

Brilliant little pc. I have the higher spec 1 but cost me £300 last year. looks amazing

I must say I never have had much success with these type of machines, always suffered stuttering at various points and have spent many hours changing settings/drivers etc. I was amazed how the Raspberry pi just worked without stuttering on the same files and yet compared to the processor etc on the this the Pi is loads less powerful. Tempted but I know full well from previous experience I will possibly have issues. We really need a dedicated Player that runs XBMC?
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