Adobe Lightroom 4 @ Amazon £79.99
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Adobe Lightroom 4 @ Amazon £79.99

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Found 21st Nov 2012
Good Price from a Good Company. Full Version not Student...

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good deal, managed to pick up student and teacher version of photoshop & premiere elements for £39 amazon seem to have some good deals on this software at the moment

Fantastic price, I guess the latest updates have fixed the initial hiccups

Ive not used lightroom since "2" but it was great back then so this is worth a look for anyone budding photographers out there!

Hot!

Remember version 3.5 was last to support XP.

Hi... Watched a podcast yesterday introducing the new Adobe PS Elements and it looks really cool. Have not used either Lightroom or Elements, so I wonder if anyone had tried both and feel which one is the better route to go for? I'm just a beginner photog with loads of pics (15k and counting...)...

Cheers...

Just be aware before buying LR4, you need a good spec pc to run this smoothly on, or you'll find it hangs a lot.
Having said that good find so heat added.

i store all my photos in lightroom - the adjustments in lightroom should cover 99% of what most people need

Lightroom is fantastic. ah_heng - go with Lightroom.

ah_heng

Hi... Watched a podcast yesterday introducing the new Adobe PS Elements … Hi... Watched a podcast yesterday introducing the new Adobe PS Elements and it looks really cool. Have not used either Lightroom or Elements, so I wonder if anyone had tried both and feel which one is the better route to go for? I'm just a beginner photog with loads of pics (15k and counting...)...Cheers...



There's a case to be argued for using both. Lightroom is excellent for photo 'development' i.e. processing RAW image files, correcting exposure, removing colour casts, converting to mono, etc, etc. However if you need to do extensive retouching work (anything beyond removing small sensor spots), it lacks the functionality of Photoshop. Photoshop Elements also allows exposure merging for HDR. There's a deal on here to get an Elements 11 and Premiere Elements bundle for £49.99 - hotukdeals.com/dea…528

Original Poster

As far as I understand it Elements is a cut down version of Photoshop. I have been using the full version of Photoshop since its invention and recently discovered Lightroom. You can download a months trial version from the Adobe Website.

Lightroom: will organise and catalogue your images. The control over images is easier than photoshop and you can keep processing always in RAW. It is a more recently developed product, specially for photographers.

Photoshop (Elements cut down): Once you process your RAW you are into tif or psd file format. It does have some must have features which i could not be without, Layers and Cloning for starters, but the product has been around for a very long time and has just been adapted and reworked now into a very complex programme especially for beginners. Doing Artwork, 3D, Web Design etc.

My personally advice would be buy Lightroom then Elements or better still Photoshop, but what ever you do start shooting in RAW format as well as jpeg (if you want). With RAW you have a far better control of processing your images.

Two different programms - LR is Photo Studio / Library with good workflow /development tools covering majority of photographer needs, but anything creative or more in depth will need you to launch into Photoshop (or Elements) which can be done from within LR.

Best thing with LR is that is it non destructive, so you can adjust exposure, crop, effects, levels etc etc all day long and then 4 weeks later go back to the original image which is never adjusted.

Working with RAW files makes Lense correction profiles and colour mangament is a doddle in LR

I'm a pro photographer. 95% of my editing is in Lightroom. I guess making sure things look right in camera makes my workflow easier. I love LR4, amazing software and PS is just for serious editing (object removal, liquify filter etc)

One for Scarper: I use PS 4 for processing raw files from my Canon 5D, and since upgrading to a Windows 7 based PC system from XP I can't get any plug-ins to run. I used a plug-in to sharpen my images 'inteligently' which I was more than happy with, and much better than unsharp mask etc. SO - what is the intelisharpen like to use with Lightroom?? TIA

macst808

My personally advice would be buy Lightroom then Elements or better still … My personally advice would be buy Lightroom then Elements or better still Photoshop, but what ever you do start shooting in RAW format as well as jpeg (if you want). With RAW you have a far better control of processing your images.



RAW is very helpful in mixed lighting conditions, otherwise I'd stick with jpegs - just be sure to use the camera's histogram to nail your exposures and your prints will look terrific.

Thanks macst808, morocco1 and jazzy

Yeah... just saw the other thread on the elements bundled for £50 and based on all these feedback, I think I will go with the Elements bundled because..

1) I do shoot RAW but mostly JPG from holiday pics
2) When I do shoot RAW, I use the Canon DPP to do all the processing
3) Started shooting "videos" lately as well so maybe the Premiere Elements might start to kick things up.

Thank you guys/ladies... cheers...

macst808

but what ever you do start shooting in RAW format as well as jpeg (if you … but what ever you do start shooting in RAW format as well as jpeg (if you want). With RAW you have a far better control of processing your images.



Shooting in RAW means you have a lot post processing to do to your images (which LR handles well) when the camera usually makes good judgements. Depends if you shoot many images and want a quick turnaround or shoot a few pics and don't mind spending time adjusting them individually.

ah_heng, watch some of these - I'll be amazed if you're not won over by Lightroom:

Editing Photos: tv.adobe.com/wat…es/

Organising Photos: tv.adobe.com/wat…es/
Edited by: "jazzy639" 22nd Nov 2012

meinnit

Shooting in RAW means you have a lot post processing to do to your images … Shooting in RAW means you have a lot post processing to do to your images (which LR handles well) when the camera usually makes good judgements. Depends if you shoot many images and want a quick turnaround or shoot a few pics and don't mind spending time adjusting them individually.



Tosh... In that case, why not let the camera do all the work and stay in auto mode. I have used LR since it came out and always shoot RAW and have a very fast work flow with little processing. If I needed to process more heavily, then the raw format gives me much more flexibility than a jpeg. I haven't shot jpeg for four years.
Whatever suits your needs.

Edited by: "jgtuk" 22nd Nov 2012

If you are new to LR (or post processing and workflow in general), this article will be very useful.
There is also an extended one here

jazzy639

watch some of these - I'll be amazed if you're not won over by Lightroom:



I was not won over by Lightroom. I found its rendering from Nikon raw format to jpeg was strikingly inferior to either Nikon's software (View / Capture NX) or to Rawtherapee. Apparently it works better with Canon raw. I also found its cataloguing approach tiresome.

LightRoom I find is excellent at managing my library and very quick on editing photos, for both light and heavy adjustments.

Only down side is I wouldn't trust it with videos, not enough functionality compared to final cut pro for example.

I use LR3 and GIMP its free and does almost everything I need if creating special effects like changing the back drop removing people or going black&white and leaving say one colour.
I also use Photomatix for HDR processing. I actually enjoy sitting there and being creative with images that otherwise I would of probably binned.

I swear by lr for basic editing and cataloging (and 4 has video play back)

Good price

digitaria

I was not won over by Lightroom. I found its rendering from Nikon raw … I was not won over by Lightroom. I found its rendering from Nikon raw format to jpeg was strikingly inferior to either Nikon's software (View / Capture NX) or to Rawtherapee. Apparently it works better with Canon raw. I also found its cataloguing approach tiresome.


when was this, I heard that Adobe have better support for NEF files over the last year?
I have been holding off from getting LR, but I find CaptureNX very buggy, but good when it works and ViewNX much worse to Canon s/w. Plus Canon give their version of Capture NX for free (but not as powerful as Nikon's).

just started on the RAW route. A lot more to it that I thought. A program/plugin to de noise, another to convert, another to sharpen. another to catalogue another to do xyz.pheewww
Edited by: "Meathotukdeals" 22nd Nov 2012

supersinky2008

One for Scarper: I use PS 4 for processing raw files from my Canon 5D, … One for Scarper: I use PS 4 for processing raw files from my Canon 5D, and since upgrading to a Windows 7 based PC system from XP I can't get any plug-ins to run. I used a plug-in to sharpen my images 'inteligently' which I was more than happy with, and much better than unsharp mask etc. SO - what is the intelisharpen like to use with Lightroom?? TIA



dunno about the PS version you have but google high pass filter. not a plug in.

If you shoot jpeg you probably don't need this software, you won't get full use from it
You can download a free 30 day trial here -
adobe.com/cfu…EUT
Also if you have an earlier version, upgrade edition is £55.49 on Amazon
amazon.co.uk/Ado…8-4
Just trialing 4 now after a year with LR3 to see if it's worth the upgrade

Now cheaper if you buy it direct from Adobe today (Black Friday) - hotukdeals.com/dea…084

wonderlander1

Now cheaper if you buy it direct from Adobe today (Black Friday) - … Now cheaper if you buy it direct from Adobe today (Black Friday) - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/adobe-lightroom-4-71-34-inc-vat-ideal-for-photographers-1375084



+1
The total at Adobe store is £69.60, tenner less than Amazon.

hermanjelmet

If you shoot jpeg you probably don't need this software, you won't get … If you shoot jpeg you probably don't need this software, you won't get full use from it


I disagree completely. I really can't be bothered shooting raw with my DSLR - I take enough photos already so shooting RAW just takes far too long to do anything. Of course for truly outstanding shots I will shoot RAW.

Lightroom is fantastic for JPEG shots, simple things like darkening the sky are just so easy to do.

icstm

when was this, I heard that Adobe have better support for NEF files over … when was this, I heard that Adobe have better support for NEF files over the last year?I have been holding off from getting LR, but I find CaptureNX very buggy, but good when it works and ViewNX much worse to Canon s/w. Plus Canon give their version of Capture NX for free (but not as powerful as Nikon's).



This was a couple of months ago, LR 4.something. I was amazed at how inferior the NEF handling was. Of course, Nikon s/w has the advantage that it can read all the in-camera settings, but even RawTherapee did a better job than Lightroom, IMHO. View NX is very simple and provides good raw conversion. Capture NX is very powerful, but has not been developed for quite some time. The GIMP is excellent, but can't handle 16-bit TIFF output from View NX, which puts me off a bit.

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Purchased thanks, heat added.
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