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Air-Conditioning Recharge £37.99 @ ATS Euromaster / Groupon
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Air-Conditioning Recharge £37.99 @ ATS Euromaster / Groupon

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Posted 4th Jul

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Cars can have their air conditioning (R134a) systems recharged and an optional antibacterial treatment at over 260 locations nationwide
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  • £37.99 for a car air conditioning recharge (36% off)
  • £44.99 for a car air conditioning recharge with an antibacterial treatment (36% off)
  • Suitable for cars, vans and 4x4s with R134A refrigerant gas
  • A pressure test will be carried out prior to treatment; if a leak is detected, the recharge and treatment will not be carried out and a full refund will be provided
  • Not suitable for electric or hybrid vehicles
  • This service can take up to 1 hour

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There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding in this thread.

Gas isn't "consumed" - it leaks. On new vehicles, you won't have a leak (in theory!).
As time passes O-rings dry out, the valves degrade (O-rings there too), and hoses can perish (although this is less likely). It is more or less impossible to keep an aircon leak free, long term as there are significant phase changes, moving parts, and parts which degrade.

If you need an air-con recharge, the existing gas has leaked. This is normally to the point where the compressor can't liquefy the Freon/refrigerant on the high pressure side, although there are other things that can cause the issue.

It is a simple and unavoidable fact that if you need a regas, you have a leak.

But wait....They do a "vacuum test" before they fill it. However, this "test" is actually done primarily to remove moister from the system. It's a short test that lasts 30-40mins to check there isn't a major leak. A test that short can not detect smaller leaks that will cause an issue over the space of a year. They simply don't want you driving away, but coming back a day or two later when it's stopped working again.

One of the main issues with older aircons is that people don't get a refill / service, even when it works. This is really important, as an aircon typically loses about 10% a year (Google "aircon lose ten percent"). Some vehicles can operate on incredibly low levels of gas, but it stresses the compressor significantly as it needs to work much harder. This can cause damage to it in a year or two if not fixed - then you're talking major money.

One of the best things you can do with an aircon is leave it on throughout the year. The lubrication in the system will really help the O-rings not dry out.

DIY kits can be okay, but the cheaper ones don't use real R134A. They use a natural hydrocarbon replacement. YMMV, but I'm not a fan. Real R134A kits exist, but you'll struggle to find them cheaper than this deal. It's better to have the vacuum done / new lube.

Sealing kits: Only useful on older cars that you're not willing to spend money on. Fine to 'try and see if it works', but don't use them on something you care about.


Aircons are complex systems. Most local garages will do a pressure test (to see if you need a regas) for free. If you do, it's really the first thing to do, as you can't troubleshoot anything with low gas. Beyond that, aircon really needs to be dealt with someone that knows what they're doing. It's best to look after them from the start
Edited by: "nomnomnomnom" 5th Jul
It's a CON!!!
Foxeh06/07/2019 01:12

The gas becomes less effective as a refrigerant over time. It’s a c …The gas becomes less effective as a refrigerant over time. It’s a consumable.



Wrong, wrong, wrong. I'm a refrigeration engineer for a living and this thread is like the blind leading the blind. It's actually against the law for us to gas up a system knowing it has a leak due to it being an ozone depleting, controlled substance these days.

Refrigerant is not a 'consumable', how often do you have your domestic fridge recharged? I'm going to go with never, and yet, it still does it's job year after year. The refrigerant is purely a thermal fluid, not a fuel that needs 'topping up' like petrol. It also doesn't 'become less effective over time' unless it's compromised/contaminated with air or the like from the start. It's a sealed system for life if the job is done properly in the first place. Every time you recharge refrigerant/open the system to the atmosphere, you introduce a tiny bit more contamination, which is just another nail in the system's coffin. Atmospheric air and the water contained within it are the enemy of any fridge system, 1 drop of water in the system will react with the oil and has the potential to kill the compressor. Fridge oil is extremely hygroscopic, meaning it sucks moisture out of the air like a sponge.

A fridge system should always be pressure tested for leaks and vacuumed to remove the air/encourage moisture to boil off before being recharged by weight of refrigerant, not running pressure. The machine at ATS will do the last 2, but cannot pressure test for leaks. Instead, it will perform a 'drop test' (pull a vacuum on the system and hold for 20 mins before recharging), if the pressure doesn't rise in 20 mins, the machine considers the system leak free and proceeds to gas the system up, this will not detect small leaks, dried out seals etc..

However, this is still better than your average DIYer's attempt at fridge. They will happily blast a can of refrigerant from Halfrauds (which probably isn't pure 134a anyway) into a system full of air, leaving you with a system full of a contaminated air/refrigerant mix (atmospheric air is full of moisture, is a mixture of Oxygen/Nitrogen/CO2 and other things you don't want in there, with poor heat transfer properties to boot, it's also non-condensable, should be nothing but refrigerant and oil in there). This approach will lead to problems further down the line, (compressor oil PH lowering and literally eating the compressor from the inside out, water contained within the refrigerant freezing at the expansion valve and inside capillary tubes and blocking up the evaporator, crazy, through the roof running pressures due to all the contaminants now in the system).

The reason A/C in cars is so prone to leaks is because they use rubber O-rings as seals which perish/dry out over time if you don't run the compressor from time to time to circulate the oil and keep them lubricated, rubber flexible hoses which can perish over time as certain parts of the system must move with the vibration of the engine/flex with the movement of the vehicle, condensers mounted right behind the front grille just waiting for a big stone to fly up and pierce them. This in comparison to stationary A/C or fridge which uses solid copper pipework and brazed (welded) joints and never flexes/vibrates/moves.

The price of 134a is going up as the government/refrigerant manufacturing companies try to force us to move away from old gasses like 134a to their environmentally friendly (albeit less efficient), modern equivalents. So if you're going to go for this, I'd do it sharpish as the price is only going to go up. Also, do not be lured into using any kind of A/C 'leak seal' product, it's snake oil and the biggest bodge of them all, it will kill your compressor in short order! a £500-£1000 part. Find the leak and fix it.

nomnomnomnom05/07/2019 16:05

This is normally to the point where the compressor can't liquefy the …This is normally to the point where the compressor can't liquefy the Freon/refrigerant on the high pressure side



Err.. I don't know where you went to fridge school mate, but where I come from the compressor compresses refrigerant into a high pressure, superheated vapour, and the condenser 'liquifies' (condenses) the refrigerant into a high pressure, sub-cooled liquid. Been that way since the vapour compression cycle was invented. You can't compress liquid, and traditionally the systems compressor alters pressure, it doesn't induce phase changes in the refrigerant, the condenser and evaporator do that. This is the reason we have accumulators/receivers on a fridge system.
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It's a CON!!!
Thanks @kramvic I've added some info. Not sure what happened but your OP is blank (apart from a full stop).
Are these any good, do they test system for leaks etc
Make sure you tell them the make and model when they ask for the reg number. Groupon advert says they will refund if they find any leaks.
I’ve used this in the past and worked for me. Full system check lube and refresh. Heat from me.
Good post OP - I did this exact deal about a week ago.

No problem with ATS accepting Groupon voucher and v happy with the recharge. A/C had completely stopped working (I feared a leak in the system) but after 45mins - yes, it really does take that long! - it was up and running again!
Good deal still cheaper than most places, circa £50+

Worth the heat
Bought this last week. TCB had 25% back for any purchase for new Groupon customers and it's tracked now.
Thanks OP, I was after one of these deals, got a used (new to me car) that needs this and is cheaper than doing it yourself.
I have them on my radar for a while now so will go for it hearing all the positive comments
Edited by: "greg666" 4th Jul
Do they have the new stuff on Citroens at same price
greg66604/07/2019 19:27

I have thin on my radar for a while now so will go for it hearing all the …I have thin on my radar for a while now so will go for it hearing all the positive comments


Yea they are good, had mine done last week, they said should there be a leak in the system they will request customer to be refunded from groupon
In the small print it says - "Expires 31 Jul 2019". Is that when the groupon offer finishes or when the groupon voucher has to be redeemed/used by at an ATS garage?
highcontrast04/07/2019 19:51

In the small print it says - "Expires 31 Jul 2019". Is that when the …In the small print it says - "Expires 31 Jul 2019". Is that when the groupon offer finishes or when the groupon voucher has to be redeemed/used by at an ATS garage?


Redeem by 31st.
Btw. I need to give them thumbs up. I bought it and used it last week, but ATS found some leak (I mean, they didn't, as they are don't have eq. to check and fix air-con so be aware) but it failed initial pressure test so they couldn't proceed. I managed to get groupon money back without any hassle, so just to let you know if anyone is afraid of losing money, your voucher is "used" when they finish the job.
Edited by: "HavocLP" 4th Jul
Thanks.
Only works if u have an old car.

Most cars 3-4 years old or newer use a different type of air con gas which costs upwards of £100 to regas.

im sure someone will be along shortly to explain further.
had this done , passed the leak check but , because of a very small leak only, lasted a couple of months
Paid £65 at a local place to have mine done last weekend! Did check for this deal but it wasn't available!
kriss5704/07/2019 17:26

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ats-air-conditioning-recharge-2950-via-groupon-2941844#comment-33821298Same deal was a lot cheaper last year.


Lots of things were a lot cheaper last year...
No804/07/2019 23:21

Lots of things were a lot cheaper last year...


TopCashback is tracking with £7.97, given that would be paid out you are around the £30
Thanks, OP! Hot...like my car at the moment!!
TCB cashback, and also TCB £3 cashback for a £5+ purchase, makes this even hotter!!
I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you achieving by replacing perfectly good refrigerant.
No ATS in NI
anyone have an idea how to tell if just need a refill or is it the switch or motor gone? Seat Ibiza. Just on other cars had it done and didn't work, then wasted the money and had to pay again after mended.
Damn,I payed £60 last week to Kwik Fit
OrangeAgent05/07/2019 14:43

anyone have an idea how to tell if just need a refill or is it the switch …anyone have an idea how to tell if just need a refill or is it the switch or motor gone? Seat Ibiza. Just on other cars had it done and didn't work, then wasted the money and had to pay again after mended.


If the system holds pressure but does not work the issue is either electrical - dash switch, pressure switch, loom, computer etc or it could be the clutch on the compressor.
alfiesquires05/07/2019 08:51

I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you …I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you achieving by replacing perfectly good refrigerant.


what do you mean? all air conditioners need a gas refill after few years..car or building ac..the gas is consumable
alfiesquires05/07/2019 08:51

I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you …I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you achieving by replacing perfectly good refrigerant.


The only way this will work is if you've lost some/all refrigerant by virtue of something like dry o rings from lack of use. You're then banking on a refill of refrigerant/oil fixing it again.

If you've got corroded pipes or a knackered condenser, far better going to a specialist who can do a proper leak test and ensure the system holds a vacuum for a long period
freakstyler05/07/2019 14:59

If the system holds pressure but does not work the issue is either …If the system holds pressure but does not work the issue is either electrical - dash switch, pressure switch, loom, computer etc or it could be the clutch on the compressor.


Thanks for the advice, so only way to check it holds pressure is to get it refilled?
OrangeAgent05/07/2019 15:12

Thanks for the advice, so only way to check it holds pressure is to get it …Thanks for the advice, so only way to check it holds pressure is to get it refilled?


They'll do a vacuum test on it before they fill it, that should flag up any leak issues. It could just be low or out of refrigerant hence not working, does the light come on but you dont hear any clicks or rev dips from the engine?
Cold con, mine only lasted a few weeks.
DIY Kit for around £45 on the bay.
alfiesquires05/07/2019 08:51

I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you …I don't see the point of this? If you don't have a leak what are you achieving by replacing perfectly good refrigerant.


It's a re-gas! Stuff doesn't last forever
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