All New sign ups to eBay by small businesses pay £0 listing AND £0 selling fee @ Ebay
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All New sign ups to eBay by small businesses pay £0 listing AND £0 selling fee @ Ebay

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Expires on 31/07/2020Posted 30th May
eBay are offering this until 31st July / 90 days for NEW sign ups for small businesses to help them out in the Pandemic and to reach 27 million customers. See site for details. Hope this helps the many small businesses struggling at the moment and anyone unemployed, why not make a business that you think you'll be good at... what have to got to lose?

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Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias towards customer not seller!!
rhine30/05/2020 10:08

Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win …Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.


Agree, 100 percent buyer biased, sellers have zero protection. Only big boys can survive on there as they can afford to take a hit now and then but if you are a small business, that one hit could be your entire margin for the day or week.
I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase.
Even though I had proof of delivery with a signature from the buyer, eBay/PayPal shafted me.
Police not interested at all.

option 1......go through the court system, stress, lengthy, expensive and risk of losing.
option 2..... non physical contact with a tin of enamel paint costing the smug buyer tenfold his crime, and lots of ongoing humiliation.

I caused the latter, which satisfied my anger. Do I regret the crime, no. Does the fraudster regret his crime, definitely yes.
rhine30/05/2020 10:08

Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win …Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.


For every bad experience, there tens of thousands of successful transactions every day

I know there can be scammers and false claims but to a degree, you'll get that if you ran an online business away from eBay (and liable for distance selling returns no questions asked also)

As a private seller, eBay has the biggest targeted marketplace reach for used items
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I am 40 year old student and now a business owner as well
Do you have a direct link op, please?
Can essentially anyone sign up for this?
I'm guessing it will be heavily restricted if opening a new account.
Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias towards customer not seller!!
rhine30/05/2020 10:02

Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias …Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias towards customer not seller!!

So your bad experience has stopped you from selling again?

As long as you list and detail correctly, have postage proof or tracking uploaded and (personally) stay away from selling mobiles, then you can made a decent amount on there
Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.
rhine30/05/2020 10:02

Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias …Awful company to deal with as a seller. Boycotted due to such bad bias towards customer not seller!!


Agree !!!
rhine30/05/2020 10:08

Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win …Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.


Agree, 100 percent buyer biased, sellers have zero protection. Only big boys can survive on there as they can afford to take a hit now and then but if you are a small business, that one hit could be your entire margin for the day or week.
rhine30/05/2020 10:08

Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win …Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.


For every bad experience, there tens of thousands of successful transactions every day

I know there can be scammers and false claims but to a degree, you'll get that if you ran an online business away from eBay (and liable for distance selling returns no questions asked also)

As a private seller, eBay has the biggest targeted marketplace reach for used items
And then horrendous fees as a small business once this “offer” runs out. Don’t fall for it, it’ll cost you a fortune in the long run.
steve123uk30/05/2020 10:20

For every bad experience, there tens of thousands of successful …For every bad experience, there tens of thousands of successful transactions every dayI know there can be scammers and false claims but to a degree, you'll get that if you ran an online business away from eBay (and liable for distance selling returns no questions asked also)As a private seller, eBay has the biggest targeted marketplace reach for used items


I agree. But I’m done with eBay. Each to their own but I have seen a change over the years in their trading style. If it works for you great but as Duncan would say I’M OUT
No benefits to business accounts these days, and no law against selling on a private account if you’re a business as long as you declare your tax (with all the £1 max fee promos)
eBay tried to restrict my personal account and push me towards business account. They eventually relented and I can now sell again.
rhine30/05/2020 10:08

Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win …Yes I have moved from selling with them. I provided proof that would win me a court case but eBay refused to look at it and closed the dispute with a 30 second window. My issue is not an isolated event I assure you.


The feedback system is a joke I sold an item and they returned a different faulty item and said it was mine. I couldn’t even leave them back feedback
RaichuCx30/05/2020 12:45

The feedback system is a joke I sold an item and they returned a different …The feedback system is a joke I sold an item and they returned a different faulty item and said it was mine. I couldn’t even leave them back feedback


Exactly
Been using ebay a bit for the first time of late. Luckily the margins have been OK because like said on here. Any issues and it's on you. I have sent out replacements just to avoid hassle. Had the margins been tight that would not have been possible.
I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase.
Even though I had proof of delivery with a signature from the buyer, eBay/PayPal shafted me.
Police not interested at all.

option 1......go through the court system, stress, lengthy, expensive and risk of losing.
option 2..... non physical contact with a tin of enamel paint costing the smug buyer tenfold his crime, and lots of ongoing humiliation.

I caused the latter, which satisfied my anger. Do I regret the crime, no. Does the fraudster regret his crime, definitely yes.
There should be more incentive for current businesses on there, the l
lucas30/05/2020 10:36

No benefits to business accounts these days, and no law against selling on …No benefits to business accounts these days, and no law against selling on a private account if you’re a business as long as you declare your tax (with all the £1 max fee promos)



No, you MUST declare/state on the sale page that you are a business, or you are committing fraud. To hide behind a private/personal account is quite serious...
DingIs30/05/2020 14:56

There should be more incentive for current businesses on there, the l No, …There should be more incentive for current businesses on there, the l No, you MUST declare/state on the sale page that you are a business, or you are committing fraud. To hide behind a private/personal account is quite serious...


Please show me a link from HMRC declaring eBay own rules as an exception to the country’s laws on declaring tax
lucas30/05/2020 14:59

Please show me a link from HMRC declaring eBay own rules as an exception …Please show me a link from HMRC declaring eBay own rules as an exception to the country’s laws on declaring tax



Er... did I mention tax?

No.. I mentioned a business using a private account without declaring on the advert that you are a business, that is illegal...

Here is your statement to clarify what I am talking about...
"no law against selling on a private account if you’re a business as long as you declare your tax"

You must state/show/indicate clearly that you are a business.




However on the tax... you don't actually have to declare it if it's less than £1,000 anyway...
gov.uk/gov…ome
Too much bad experience on ebay as a business seller to take that risk again.
eBay is ****!
steve123uk30/05/2020 10:06

So your bad experience has stopped you from selling again? As long as you …So your bad experience has stopped you from selling again? As long as you list and detail correctly, have postage proof or tracking uploaded and (personally) stay away from selling mobiles, then you can made a decent amount on there


Nonsense. Everything is ALWAYS settled in the buyers’ favour, never the seller’s!
squeekyclean30/05/2020 13:55

I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase. Even …I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase. Even though I had proof of delivery with a signature from the buyer, eBay/PayPal shafted me. Police not interested at all.option 1......go through the court system, stress, lengthy, expensive and risk of losing.option 2..... non physical contact with a tin of enamel paint costing the smug buyer tenfold his crime, and lots of ongoing humiliation.I caused the latter, which satisfied my anger. Do I regret the crime, no. Does the fraudster regret his crime, definitely yes.


Serves him right. Did you get in any trouble?
steve123uk30/05/2020 10:06

So your bad experience has stopped you from selling again? As long as you …So your bad experience has stopped you from selling again? As long as you list and detail correctly, have postage proof or tracking uploaded and (personally) stay away from selling mobiles, then you can made a decent amount on there


I had an item arrive a day after the estimated delivery date. Buyer opened a not as described case and won. Do you think they cared about the postal receipt showing I posted within the promised time?
Edited by: "chance189" 30th May
lucas30/05/2020 14:59

Please show me a link from HMRC declaring eBay own rules as an exception …Please show me a link from HMRC declaring eBay own rules as an exception to the country’s laws on declaring tax


I was having this debate with someone else on the last ebay £1 fee post. They still don’t get it. Any business can use the £1 fee and not break the law assuming they are declaring every sale!
DingIs30/05/2020 14:56

There should be more incentive for current businesses on there, the l No, …There should be more incentive for current businesses on there, the l No, you MUST declare/state on the sale page that you are a business, or you are committing fraud. To hide behind a private/personal account is quite serious...


Complete load of nonsense. How are you committing fraud by misleading the buyer? A sale is a sale providing its been correctly declared
chance18930/05/2020 16:48

I had an item arrive a day after the estimated delivery date. Buyer opened …I had an item arrive a day after the estimated delivery date. Buyer opened a not as described case and won. Do you think they cared about the postal receipt showing I posted within the promised time?


Sorry, what does Not as Described have to do with when you posted it?
steve123uk30/05/2020 19:50

Sorry, what does Not as Described have to do with when you posted it?



The buyer said it was late which meant not as described and eBay sided with them.
chance18930/05/2020 19:53

The buyer said it was late which meant not as described and eBay sided …The buyer said it was late which meant not as described and eBay sided with them.


In my 20 years selling on eBay, I have never had this. The reason 'Not as described' is exactly that - you have not listed or described correctly. Nothing to do with when the customer receives

If it is late, the buyer can raise a claim for not received yet.

Delivery date is not guaranteed and an estimate only.
steve123uk30/05/2020 20:01

In my 20 years selling on eBay, I have never had this. The reason 'Not as …In my 20 years selling on eBay, I have never had this. The reason 'Not as described' is exactly that - you have not listed or described correctly. Nothing to do with when the customer receivesIf it is late, the buyer can raise a claim for not received yet.Delivery date is not guaranteed and an estimate only.


I agree and I hope you don't get a petty buyer like that but eBay said delivery date is part of the description. Buyer admitted finding cheaper and when she couldn't extort me for the difference picked issue with the delivery date. They rarely protect sellers
chance18930/05/2020 16:48

I had an item arrive a day after the estimated delivery date. Buyer opened …I had an item arrive a day after the estimated delivery date. Buyer opened a not as described case and won. Do you think they cared about the postal receipt showing I posted within the promised time?



And so the buyer sent you the goods back and you arranged a refund and thus it cost you only the postage.

Shame but not a catastrophe.

Ebay doesn't have a mechanism for buyer filing a 'not as described case' getting to keep the goods and not pay for them...
SampleX30/05/2020 22:05

And so the buyer sent you the goods back and you arranged a refund and …And so the buyer sent you the goods back and you arranged a refund and thus it cost you only the postage.Shame but not a catastrophe.Ebay doesn't have a mechanism for buyer filing a 'not as described case' getting to keep the goods and not pay for them...


It was my postage + an even more costly return label.
chance18930/05/2020 16:45

Serves him right. Did you get in any trouble?


No trouble at all, very much doubt it could be proven it was me, and not worth police time to investigate.

Now and again I get him free samples sent to his address, signed up for offers with his phone number included.
Sold an iPhone. Scam buyer sent back a different dead phone. EBay gave the case in my favour but PayPal gave him money & blocked my PayPal permanently.
Tried a lot but no success at all.. Hate PayPal for being buyer biased...

I would appreciate any advice but don't want to get into police case side of things
squeekyclean30/05/2020 13:55

I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase. Even …I had a costly chargeback once, a few months after the purchase. Even though I had proof of delivery with a signature from the buyer, eBay/PayPal shafted me. Police not interested at all.option 1......go through the court system, stress, lengthy, expensive and risk of losing.option 2..... non physical contact with a tin of enamel paint costing the smug buyer tenfold his crime, and lots of ongoing humiliation.I caused the latter, which satisfied my anger. Do I regret the crime, no. Does the fraudster regret his crime, definitely yes.


The issue with option 2 is that you don't know if address you sent it to is a legit buyer. Could have been the scam where people sell items for cheap on their own account, then buy items using hacked accounts (getting genuine seller to ship the item to innocent buyer's address). Then original account owner happens to notice unauthorised charges and files a chargeback.

Depends on the item I guess, I'd imagine it would be more likely to happen on more popular items.
Jumantj30/05/2020 19:06

Complete load of nonsense. How are you committing fraud by misleading the …Complete load of nonsense. How are you committing fraud by misleading the buyer? A sale is a sale providing its been correctly declared



What on earth are you talking about?
DingIs31/05/2020 07:52

What on earth are you talking about?


Read the quotation...
Can someone confirm for me this means I'll need to OPEN A BRAND NEW EBAY BUSINESS account to be eligible?
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