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grappler31/05/2020 23:17

Some people actually like keeping their own teeth


You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.

Humans have done this for many thousands of years, we have the fossil records.

They didn't have fluoride.

Also the fluoride in water is calcium fluoride which is naturally occuring.

The fluoride in most toothpastes is a toxic waste product from metal refining and is sodium mono fluorophosphate.

They aren't the same in form or function.

It's a bait and switch.
Edited by: "polarbaba" 1st Jun
Bogami31/05/2020 22:58

Hmmm... fluoride free


Not everyone is pro fluoride
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Hmmm... fluoride free
Bogami31/05/2020 22:58

Hmmm... fluoride free


Not everyone is pro fluoride
Sdos234531/05/2020 23:16

Some people actually like their pineal gland.


Some people actually like keeping their own teeth
Great for people who are allergic to fluoride and can’t tolerate regular toothpaste
Edited by: "FNM20" 31st May
grappler31/05/2020 23:17

Some people actually like keeping their own teeth


You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.

Humans have done this for many thousands of years, we have the fossil records.

They didn't have fluoride.

Also the fluoride in water is calcium fluoride which is naturally occuring.

The fluoride in most toothpastes is a toxic waste product from metal refining and is sodium mono fluorophosphate.

They aren't the same in form or function.

It's a bait and switch.
Edited by: "polarbaba" 1st Jun
Sdos234531/05/2020 23:16

Some people actually like their pineal gland.


Exactly
Mixed reviews as a whitening toothpaste
polarbaba01/06/2020 01:09

You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.Humans have done …You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.Humans have done this for many thousands of years, we have the fossil records.They didn't have fluoride.Also the fluoride in water is calcium fluoride which is naturally occuring.The fluoride in most toothpastes is a toxic waste product from metal refining and is sodium mono fluorophosphate.They aren't the same in form or function.It's a bait and switch.


True. Good if you're intending to live like your ancient ancestors till the average age of 30
polarbaba01/06/2020 01:09

You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.Humans have done …You mean like regular brushing and good oral hygiene ???.Humans have done this for many thousands of years, we have the fossil records.They didn't have fluoride.Also the fluoride in water is calcium fluoride which is naturally occuring.The fluoride in most toothpastes is a toxic waste product from metal refining and is sodium mono fluorophosphate.They aren't the same in form or function.It's a bait and switch.


The majority of people getting fluoride in their water is as an additive rather than naturally occurring and the most problems are linked to ingestions rather than topical application.
Murphpj01/06/2020 09:28

The majority of people getting fluoride in their water is as an additive …The majority of people getting fluoride in their water is as an additive rather than naturally occurring and the most problems are linked to ingestions rather than topical application.


So why forcibly medicate people with a toxic substance?

Especially when the therapeutic dose cannot be metered?
polarbaba01/06/2020 09:59

So why forcibly medicate people with a toxic substance?Especially when the …So why forcibly medicate people with a toxic substance?Especially when the therapeutic dose cannot be metered?


Here's a tip. Don't eat the stuff in large quantities and cross the toxicity threshold. Most toothpastes are 1000 ppm of fluoride. Way below the toxicity threshold, and has a way larger benefit than cost.

Same thing with water. Drinking 100 litres of fresh stream organic water will cause what's known as "water intoxication" and kill you. All things in moderation.
Bogami01/06/2020 10:22

Here's a tip. Don't eat the stuff in large quantities and cross the …Here's a tip. Don't eat the stuff in large quantities and cross the toxicity threshold. Most toothpastes are 1000 ppm of fluoride. Way below the toxicity threshold, and has a way larger benefit than cost.Same thing with water. Drinking 100 litres of fresh stream organic water will cause what's known as "water intoxication" and kill you. All things in moderation.


You surely aren't thinking the blatent misuse of water and forced medication of a toxic substance are similes?
polarbaba01/06/2020 10:26

You surely aren't thinking the blatent misuse of water and forced …You surely aren't thinking the blatent misuse of water and forced medication of a toxic substance are similes?


Your use of the word "toxic substance" is a blatant misuse. Everything is toxic at a certain level. That was my point. So don't consume fluoride (or water) at levels that could endanger you.
5G, Flat Earth, Area 51, Moon Landing, Microwaves, JFK, Bigfoot, 9/11, Illuminati, Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda Triangle, Fluoride
Sam22301/06/2020 17:49

5G, Flat Earth, Area 51, Moon Landing, Microwaves, JFK, Bigfoot, 9/11, …5G, Flat Earth, Area 51, Moon Landing, Microwaves, JFK, Bigfoot, 9/11, Illuminati, Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda Triangle, Fluoride


There are serious concerns that are being brushed away by offering tinfoil hats.
And tossing 9/11 and fluoride there doesn't make them a conspiracy theory or an idiotic idea such as flat earth.
Bermuda triangle? Really? Haven't you seen the science behind it yet?
ohdearohdear01/06/2020 17:52

There are serious concerns that are being brushed away by offering tinfoil …There are serious concerns that are being brushed away by offering tinfoil hats.And tossing 9/11 and fluoride there doesn't make them a conspiracy theory or an idiotic idea such as flat earth.Bermuda triangle? Really? Haven't you seen the science behind it yet?


Oh gosh. Unfortunately for you I've looked at the published peer-reviewed literature. Skeletal fluorosis is a side effect of excessive fluoride but not at the levels we consume.

What about yourself? Show us your research and your damning evidence.
What are the levels we consume?.. if it's in drinking water and toothpaste, and additional high dose fluoride toothpastes prescribed by dentists, it's absorbed orally, and via dermal in the bath and shower.

So what's the dosage we receive?

Sweeping statements especially when we are speaking of toxic substances.

Either way, have it or not, this is as deal.

No one forces you to have this.
polarbaba01/06/2020 18:44

What are the levels we consume?.. if it's in drinking water and …What are the levels we consume?.. if it's in drinking water and toothpaste, and additional high dose fluoride toothpastes prescribed by dentists, it's absorbed orally, and via dermal in the bath and shower.So what's the dosage we receive?Sweeping statements especially when we are speaking of toxic substances.Either way, have it or not, this is as deal.No one forces you to have this.


And the answer is? Or is it just anecdotal. Please do educate us
Bogami01/06/2020 18:49

And the answer is? Or is it just anecdotal. Please do educate us


I'm not taking your bait and spending any more time on this, some people do not want discourse, nor have an open mind, I was like that, and no amount or evidence or studies are sufficient.
Someone will say that wasn't a double blind study, the wasn't a placebo group, the sample size wasn't big enough.
And all will use their own arbitrary milestones conveniently put of scope to ensure their little worlds aren't disturbed and there is status quo.

Either way have the deal or not. This wasn't a place for your confirmation bias and you got disturbed.
polarbaba01/06/2020 18:54

I'm not taking your bait and spending any more time on this, some people …I'm not taking your bait and spending any more time on this, some people do not want discourse, nor have an open mind, I was like that, and no amount or evidence or studies are sufficient.Someone will say that wasn't a double blind study, the wasn't a placebo group, the sample size wasn't big enough.And all will use their own arbitrary milestones conveniently put of scope to ensure their little worlds aren't disturbed and there is status quo.Either way have the deal or not. This wasn't a place for your confirmation bias and you got disturbed.


Okay here's the deal. Show me three replicated peer-reviewed randomised control studies that point to your evidence and I'll change my mind completely and campaign upon your behalf. And I'll swear no further questions. Should be easy enough to fulfil
Bogami01/06/2020 19:06

Okay here's the deal. Show me three replicated peer-reviewed randomised …Okay here's the deal. Show me three replicated peer-reviewed randomised control studies that point to your evidence and I'll change my mind completely and campaign upon your behalf. And I'll swear no further questions. Should be easy enough to fulfil


No need.

Just have the deal or not. I've done this before.
I have just learnt to let go.
I am critical and skeptical with evidence (supposed or real) before accepting it for myself, however it's for you to seek your own knowledge and not for me to convince you.
This is not me bowing out, it's me learning from my mistakes and not letting my ego getting in the way.
At least this way you haven't got defensive and might even have a cheeky look for yourself.

Here's a starter.



No doubt a professor in chemistry and toxicology won't be good enough for you.
polarbaba01/06/2020 19:20

No need.Just have the deal or not. I've done this before.I have just …No need.Just have the deal or not. I've done this before.I have just learnt to let go.I am critical and skeptical with evidence (supposed or real) before accepting it for myself, however it's for you to seek your own knowledge and not for me to convince you.This is not me bowing out, it's me learning from my mistakes and not letting my ego getting in the way.At least this way you haven't got defensive and might even have a cheeky look for yourself.Here's a starter.[Video] No doubt a professor in chemistry and toxicology won't be good enough for you.


Okay. I should firstly apologise if my request looked demeaning. That's not my intention. I've always asked for unbiased evidence and this has led me to science and this has also frequently led me to change my opinion. I ask everyone to do the same. Seek and understand the evidence and not be like sheep, essentially.

My grandad lived to 103 and he had some pretty awesome bad habits that he used to espouse as evidence of his longevity. My dad is 91 now and he's doing the same. Many of these, I can't recommend, e.g. like drinking three brandies after dinner, smoking a cigarillo after lunch etc. But he believes in its benefits. It's an N=1 reasoning but he's managed to convince many. I've always argued replicated double-blind randomised controlled studies but it falls on deaf ears

Thanks for the video. I'll have a look later. I hope it came from an independent source. But I am a person of my words. I am driven by evidence
Bogami01/06/2020 18:29

Oh gosh. Unfortunately for you I've looked at the published peer-reviewed …Oh gosh. Unfortunately for you I've looked at the published peer-reviewed literature. Skeletal fluorosis is a side effect of excessive fluoride but not at the levels we consume. What about yourself? Show us your research and your damning evidence.


Is this a personal attack or something? Can you not raise the level a little bit to a decent conversation/argument?
ohdearohdear01/06/2020 19:41

Is this a personal attack or something? Can you not raise the level a …Is this a personal attack or something? Can you not raise the level a little bit to a decent conversation/argument?


No not at all. Please don't take asking for evidence as personal attacks
polarbaba01/06/2020 18:44

What are the levels we consume?.. if it's in drinking water and …What are the levels we consume?.. if it's in drinking water and toothpaste, and additional high dose fluoride toothpastes prescribed by dentists, it's absorbed orally, and via dermal in the bath and shower.So what's the dosage we receive?Sweeping statements especially when we are speaking of toxic substances.Either way, have it or not, this is as deal.No one forces you to have this.


Less than 10% of the UK’s population receive fluoridated water. So there is more than a 90% chance you or I don’t consume any through water.

Higher concentration fluoride toothpaste is prescribed to people who are high caries risk.

I have patients who are anti fluoride and that’s fine with me but guess what? They tend to need more restorative work.
grappler01/06/2020 22:29

Less than 10% of the UK’s population receive fluoridated water. So there i …Less than 10% of the UK’s population receive fluoridated water. So there is more than a 90% chance you or I don’t consume any through water. Higher concentration fluoride toothpaste is prescribed to people who are high caries risk. I have patients who are anti fluoride and that’s fine with me but guess what? They tend to need more restorative work.


We have it in Brum.

Probably explains our accent!
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