Amazon Dot and Logitech Harmony Hub Bundle for £114.99 @ Amazon
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Amazon Dot and Logitech Harmony Hub Bundle for £114.99 @ Amazon

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Found 16th Dec 2016
Just found this cheeky deal - Was browsing on the harmony Hub and noticed there is a bundle on the page with the Echo Dot.

Current Hub price is 99.99 and the current dot price is 44.99 so you save £30.

pretty strong deal IMO as with this hub you can basically control all your tv equipment through the dot.

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Can you explain why it is cheeky please?

arch68

Can you explain why it is cheeky please?



Please don't let this be another "Cheeky Nandos" pandemic...

Bright Red Cheeks of Heat.

Cheeky is a word. It's overused by ****, but it's still a word that can be applied to things other than chicken for chavs.

"Cheeky pint after work" acceptable.
"I had two G&T's before dinner!" "Ooooh! Cheeky!"
"I bought a new dress" "Wow! Check out that cheeky little number".

Does this need an IR zapper to control the TV? I was under the impression that you had to purchase theses separately to be able to control your TV.

The Logitech hub IS the IR Zapper.

oliverhussick

The Logitech hub IS the IR Zapper.


So it would need to sit in front of the TV... mini blaster add on for most people in that case.

Well that's a cheeky comment............you can kiss my cheeky Ar se and sniff the gas (_;)

oliverhussick

The Logitech hub IS the IR Zapper.


so i could buy this, set it up, then get alexa to turn on/off tv, change sky channel etc? as in nothing else would be needed?

Spakkle

so i could buy this, set it up, then get alexa to turn on/off tv, change … so i could buy this, set it up, then get alexa to turn on/off tv, change sky channel etc? as in nothing else would be needed?



It seems that way.

I know the Hub works with echo in the US, and it was coming to the UK soon. Does it now work?

PAULTRD

Does this need an IR zapper to control the TV? I was under the impression … Does this need an IR zapper to control the TV? I was under the impression that you had to purchase theses separately to be able to control your TV.


1 zapper comes with these, it says on the Amazon description of what's in the box.
Edited by: "paulj48" 16th Dec 2016

Splutterbug

I know the Hub works with echo in the US, and it was coming to the UK … I know the Hub works with echo in the US, and it was coming to the UK soon. Does it now work?


I believe they added support yesterday.

You could set this up, then ask Alexa to turn on your telly.

Or you could press the button the remote?

oO

I have this setup and it works surprisingly well after the initial setup. The hub can sit amongst your equipment and still work fine. It doesn't need to be facing. In the UK you will need an app called yonomi as Logitech haven't as yet sorted their Amazon skill.

How does this interact with the Harmony remote control? Does it mean the Harmony will lose track of where you are in the process or is it smart enough to realise when the Amazon Dot has turned things on and off?

adheath76

I have this setup and it works surprisingly well after the initial setup. … I have this setup and it works surprisingly well after the initial setup. The hub can sit amongst your equipment and still work fine. It doesn't need to be facing. In the UK you will need an app called yonomi as Logitech haven't as yet sorted their Amazon skill.


Logitech released their Harmony skill in the UK yesterday. I set mine up last night and it seems to long winded to be much use tbh. You have to prefix everything "Alexa, tell harmony to.... turn on the TV/to pause/etc" which just makes it frustrating and simpler just to use the remote. It really needs to have a way to integrate natively so you can just say "Alexa, turn on the TV" and skip the asking Harmony bit.

N1Andy

How does this interact with the Harmony remote control? Does it mean the … How does this interact with the Harmony remote control? Does it mean the Harmony will lose track of where you are in the process or is it smart enough to realise when the Amazon Dot has turned things on and off?


So far it's set the remote to whatever i've asked Alexa to do.

My old logitech remote is on its way out so going to give this a try I think.

N1Andy

How does this interact with the Harmony remote control? Does it mean the … How does this interact with the Harmony remote control? Does it mean the Harmony will lose track of where you are in the process or is it smart enough to realise when the Amazon Dot has turned things on and off?



The hub is supposed to keep track of the status as all commands are sent through it. The only harmony remotes that are compatible with the hub are the Elite (950), Ultimate (Touch) and the companion remote. If you try to use any other Harmony remote, it will go out of sync. Also, if you use the hub, you can use the Android/IOS Harmony app to control as well

johnthehuman

You could set this up, then ask Alexa to turn on your telly. Or you could … You could set this up, then ask Alexa to turn on your telly. Or you could press the button the remote? oO


you could but the Harmony system is an activity based system. e.g My 'Play Xbox One' activity switches on the TV, turns it to the correct HDMI, switches on the AV amp and selects the correct input and also switches on the Xbox and dims the Hue lamps, the buttons on the remote are all mapped to that activity. If I choose another activity all the devices switch to the correct inputs and the buttons on the remote all remap to that new activity.
Edited by: "paulj48" 16th Dec 2016

Good deal if you don't have the harmony remote. But having the remote I don't feel I need the dot to use my TV, the remote is good enough! Maybe great if hungover and lazy, first wold problems though hey!

Still waiting for Google Home...

So, is this just amazons version of cortana on the xbox or is it more useful, and if so in what ways?

Going to use the word "cheeky" wherever possible on HUKD. Seems to really upset some people X)

Scotsmania

Logitech released their Harmony skill in the UK yesterday. I set mine up … Logitech released their Harmony skill in the UK yesterday. I set mine up last night and it seems to long winded to be much use tbh. You have to prefix everything "Alexa, tell harmony to.... turn on the TV/to pause/etc" which just makes it frustrating and simpler just to use the remote. It really needs to have a way to integrate natively so you can just say "Alexa, turn on the TV" and skip the asking Harmony bit.



Cheers I hadn't spotted that, I was actually reading about it yesterday, this may help it seems you can lose the "Harmony" bit support.myharmony.com/en-…exa

Splutterbug

Cheers I hadn't spotted that, I was actually reading about it yesterday, … Cheers I hadn't spotted that, I was actually reading about it yesterday, this may help it seems you can lose the "Harmony" bit https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/harmony-experience-with-amazon-alexa


That's only the original US harmony skill that lets you skip the "tell harmony to" part, that skill doesn't let you control the volume, pause etc it just starts and stops activities. It's the new 'custom' skill that they released both over there and here in the UK that we have access to, it can do the remote presses but requires "tell harmony to" for everything.

They get access to both skills while we only got the latter unfortunately.

paulj48

you could but the Harmony system is an activity based system. e.g My … you could but the Harmony system is an activity based system. e.g My 'Play Xbox One' activity switches on the TV, turns it to the correct HDMI, switches on the AV amp and selects the correct input and also switches on the Xbox and dims the Hue lamps, the buttons on the remote are all mapped to that activity. If I choose another activity all the devices switch to the correct inputs and the buttons on the remote all remap to that new activity.



I know how it works, I've had one for years, that's why I said what I said.

You can already press one button to turn on and off whatever AV equipment is needed. One button.
It's not making it any easier by routing a voice command through a Dot.

Also, saying "Alexa tell Harmony to turn the volume up a bit" is going to be far more annoying less user-friendly than pressing a button on a remote.

johnthehuman

I know how it works, I've had one for years, that's why I said what I … I know how it works, I've had one for years, that's why I said what I said.You can already press one button to turn on and off whatever AV equipment is needed. One button. It's not making it any easier by routing a voice command through a Dot. Also, saying "Alexa tell Harmony to turn the volume up a bit" is going to be far more annoying less user-friendly than pressing a button on a remote.



​You mustn't have a missus that likes to hide the remote under her **** or under her blanket or just leave it in the most random locations ever then.

johnthehuman

I know how it works, I've had one for years, that's why I said what I … I know how it works, I've had one for years, that's why I said what I said.You can already press one button to turn on and off whatever AV equipment is needed. One button. It's not making it any easier by routing a voice command through a Dot. Also, saying "Alexa tell Harmony to turn the volume up a bit" is going to be far more annoying less user-friendly than pressing a button on a remote.


Ok but you didn't make that point very clear.

I'm presuming as this deal is for the hub only then it's aimed a people who don't have a Harmony remote and using Alexa is easier than unlocking a smart phone and using the App
Edited by: "paulj48" 16th Dec 2016

voted hot, not quite sure after i checked with the camels oO

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kg808

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This includes a Dot.

johnthehuman

You could set this up, then ask Alexa to turn on your telly. Or you could … You could set this up, then ask Alexa to turn on your telly. Or you could press the button the remote? oO



I guess people were saying similar when tv remotes were new: "you could get a remote or you could get up and press the button on the tv."

can this be set up to flush a toilet?

knack

I guess people were saying similar when tv remotes were new: "you could … I guess people were saying similar when tv remotes were new: "you could get a remote or you could get up and press the button on the tv."


Not really the same thing though is it. Pressing the button on a remote is easier than getting up to press the button on the telly. Saying "Alexa, tell Harmony to change to BBC one" isn't less hassle than pressing a single button on a remote, it's complicating things rather than simplifying them.

In time i expect it to improve a lot but right now i'm less than impressed.

^ This. Someone invented the remote to overcome an actual problem, that you couldn't change the channel or volume from your chair.

There are only a few very specific situations where you would actually need to use your voice to control something, when it is not practical to touch something for example, or when you physically cannot manage to press a button.

Scotsmania

Not really the same thing though is it. Pressing the button on a remote … Not really the same thing though is it. Pressing the button on a remote is easier than getting up to press the button on the telly. Saying "Alexa, tell Harmony to change to BBC one" isn't less hassle than pressing a single button on a remote, it's complicating things rather than simplifying them.In time i expect it to improve a lot but right now i'm less than impressed.



If you have the control next to you then typing 1/101 is definitely quicker than asking Alexa but if the remote isn't next to you or is missing somewhere and you're too lazy to get it/look for it then Alexa would be handy. If you have the Harmony Hub and no remote I guess Alexa would add more value.

I've not used it yet but getting harmony remote/hub next week so will try Alexa at some point. I have set low expectations for Alexa/Harmony to avoid disappointment! Having to invoke the skill is a bit cumbersome.

As you say though improvements should come. The first remotes were were wired and only had three functions!

I'm in IT so this is more of a rhetorical question, but, I'm open to detailed explanations:

My Samsung TV accepts commands over the TCP/IP network using Samsung or third party remote apps. I don't understand why Alexa won't talk to the TV directly?!?

Why does it need the hub to convert the commands to old fashioned IR to beam at the TV. Why not just have the Alexa API in the cloud (via IFTTT perhaps, albeit slowly) or the Echo/Dot device to talk to the Samsung API and cut out the middle man?

Ultimately, I don't even need volume/channel/source or any of that nonsense. I just want her to turn off the TV when I ask her to "turn off all of the things" just like she does with the lights and the Christmas tree and the coffee machine etc.

oliverhussick

I'm in IT so this is more of a rhetorical question, but, I'm open to … I'm in IT so this is more of a rhetorical question, but, I'm open to detailed explanations:My Samsung TV accepts commands over the TCP/IP network using Samsung or third party remote apps. I don't understand why Alexa won't talk to the TV directly?!?Why does it need the hub to convert the commands to old fashioned IR to beam at the TV. Why not just have the Alexa API in the cloud (via IFTTT perhaps, albeit slowly) or the Echo/Dot device to talk to the Samsung API and cut out the middle man?Ultimately, I don't even need volume/channel/source or any of that nonsense. I just want her to turn off the TV when I ask her to "turn off all of the things" just like she does with the lights and the Christmas tree and the coffee machine etc.




Write your own Alexa skill then.. amazon exposes the API

oliverhussick

Cheeky is a word. It's overused by ****, but it's still a word that can … Cheeky is a word. It's overused by ****, but it's still a word that can be applied to things other than chicken for chavs."Cheeky pint after work" acceptable."I had two G&T's before dinner!" "Ooooh! Cheeky!""I bought a new dress" "Wow! Check out that cheeky little number".



"Chicken for chavs". Brilliant. Don't choke on your caviar will you.
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