Amazon Echo Dot (2nd Generation), Black + Philips Hue White Starter Set - £59.99 @ Amazon Prime Day
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Amazon Echo Dot (2nd Generation), Black + Philips Hue White Starter Set - £59.99 @ Amazon Prime Day

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Found 16th Jul
Echo dot is £30 on Amazon at the momentwhich means the starter kit is essentially £30, usually £45.
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In my opinion you're better off getting the Echo Plus refurb deal. I've found it more effective to connect the bulbs direct to that even if you lose some minor functions (but gain speed and a RJ45 port on your router and a plug!). I've tried both. One advantage of the Phillips hub is works with HomeKit and google too if split devices around house. However I've got some Hue and some IKEA bulbs and it doesn't see those ins HomeKit so I just went all Alexa.
Edited by: "cantonbean" 16th Jul
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101 people have voted and it’s only on 217o.
i guess people have been voting negative
CWH21 m ago

101 people have voted and it’s only on 217o.i guess people have been v …101 people have voted and it’s only on 217o.i guess people have been voting negative


1) Not really - if I remember correctly, some people get 1 and some get 5 of heat... think it's to do with how many badges you have and things (Could be totally wrong).

2) So what? People are allowed to not think it's a deal....
CWH1 h, 12 m ago

101 people have voted and it’s only on 217o.i guess people have been v …101 people have voted and it’s only on 217o.i guess people have been voting negative


And?
It’d be a bit weird to be voting cold as it’s a decent deal
Cheap deal, you could probably make £20 - £30 profit from selling them seperately.
Edited by: "TazH" 16th Jul
Calldean1 h, 11 m ago

1) Not really - if I remember correctly, some people get 1 and some get 5 …1) Not really - if I remember correctly, some people get 1 and some get 5 of heat... think it's to do with how many badges you have and things (Could be totally wrong).2) So what? People are allowed to not think it's a deal....


The trouble is people don’t ‘not think it’s a deal’, they think ‘i wouldn’t buy this so cold’
cantonbean6 h, 58 m ago

In my opinion you're better off getting the Echo Plus rerun deal. I've …In my opinion you're better off getting the Echo Plus rerun deal. I've found it more effective to connect the bulbs direct to that even if you lose some minor functions (but gain speed and a RJ45 port on your router and a plug!). I've tried both. One advantage of the Phillips hub is works with HomeKit and google too if split devices around house. However I've got some Hue and some IKEA bulbs and it doesn't see those ins HomeKit so I just went all Alexa.


What’s the echo plus rerun deal please?
emsabobs27 m ago

What’s the echo plus rerun deal please?



iPhone auto correct! it was meant to say refurb! But amazon are actually doing the same deal on brand new echo plus now!
cantonbean13 m ago

iPhone auto correct! it was meant to say refurb! But amazon are actually …iPhone auto correct! it was meant to say refurb! But amazon are actually doing the same deal on brand new echo plus now!


Ahhh yes I’ve seen that thank you. I’ve got quite a few smart Home bits already and this is for a gift. Can I just ask then - an echo plus will work with plugs and bulbs without any bridges?
emsabobs49 m ago

Ahhh yes I’ve seen that thank you. I’ve got quite a few smart Home bits alr …Ahhh yes I’ve seen that thank you. I’ve got quite a few smart Home bits already and this is for a gift. Can I just ask then - an echo plus will work with plugs and bulbs without any bridges?



Yes as it is the hub itself. Makes things a lot simpler. Only thing is no HomeKit support of google support that way. You can just use the Alexa app or any echo to control devices youth and Alexa works with a lot more devices then the others and also more calendars etc.
emsabobs50 m ago

Ahhh yes I’ve seen that thank you. I’ve got quite a few smart Home bits alr …Ahhh yes I’ve seen that thank you. I’ve got quite a few smart Home bits already and this is for a gift. Can I just ask then - an echo plus will work with plugs and bulbs without any bridges?


Also i wasn’t bothered about colour changing so found IKEA to be the way to go for bulbs...especially g10 bulbs!
cantonbean10 m ago

Also i wasn’t bothered about colour changing so found IKEA to be the way t …Also i wasn’t bothered about colour changing so found IKEA to be the way to go for bulbs...especially g10 bulbs!


Yeah I’ve got colour hue and never used them. Thank you for the advice.
Went for the white ambiance kit myself, already got an Echo.

That said I'm having a hard time digesting that these bulbs cost ±£2/unit to manufacture, no matter what way you look at it, it's a greedy cash-grab even at sale prices.

Personally going to avoid any further bulbs from Phillips after the starter kit. The Hue Bridge does do Zigbee, so you can pick up cheaper, just as good Innr brand ones.
Edited by: "schmoog" 17th Jul
Why are people always shocked that companies sell products for more than cost of manufacture?
khirsah4 h, 39 m ago

Why are people always shocked that companies sell products for more than …Why are people always shocked that companies sell products for more than cost of manufacture?


Because it's an LED bulb and this is only happening because its "SMART". In reality, home automation electronics are often very cheap, basic and simple to produce.

The idea of an automated house seems supercool, manufacturers seem to be having their way with this. There's no huge R&D, they're just expensive because they are.

I get what you're getting at, people say "shocking x costs to make" but I can't understand the profit margin with these, at all. Seems like everyone has been gassed with narcotics and I'm running in like "do me!".
Edited by: "schmoog" 17th Jul
schmoog16 m ago

Because it's an LED bulb and this is only happening because its "SMART". …Because it's an LED bulb and this is only happening because its "SMART". In reality, home automation electronics are often very cheap, basic and simple to produce.The idea of an automated house seems supercool, manufacturers seem to be having their way with this. There's no huge R&D, they're just expensive because they are.I get what you're getting at, people say "shocking x costs to make" but I can't understand the profit margin with these, at all. Seems like everyone has been gassed with narcotics and I'm running in like "do me!".


Many products are expensive because they are. Most phones have several hundred pounds of profit margin, most cars several thousand. People don’t not buy cola or popcorn when it’s pence to make yet pounds to buy. Companies make a profit on what they produce. It’s also naive to think there’s no large costs with these products, especially r&d, marketing, testing, app/software, servers to manage all the connections etc.

cheaper products are available but generally lower quality or less functionality. We have colour bulbs and use loads of the functionality and can’t imagine not having them now. Yes, it’s expensive vs cost to manufacture but so is virtually every product in our house. I don’t mind paying it because we use it extensively. Having that technology work with itself, as well as other home automation products, is rarely a case of ‘develop and forget’.

People probably get excited because they like the products, not because they’re gassed with narcotic style idiot gas. I know that’s probably a craaaaazy idea but run with it.
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