Amazon - Yale Keyless connected smart lock - £102
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Amazon - Yale Keyless connected smart lock - £102

£102£109.99 7% Amazon Deals
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Edited by:"kg808"Found 23rd Nov
Keyless connected smart lock with a simple to use touchscreen and backlit keypad, allowing complete control over door locking. Offers various opening options including PIN code, key card, key tag, remote fob and smartphone control when connected to a smart home system. Requires an appropriate module to be fitted. Also connects to the Yale smartphone alarm and CCTV systems using the Yale module. Features a 24-hour resettable PIN code, ideal for cleaners, friends and family. Easy process to remotely add and remove users if required, including set schedules and audit trails. Tamper alarm and incorrect PIN code feature causes a 3 minute lock-out if incorrect codes are entered 5 times. Powered by 4 x AA batteries, so will continue to work in the event of mains power failure and warns when the batteries are low. Replaces existing rim cylinders used on a night latch with 60mm backset.

  • 20 PINs, Tags or Cards & 24-Hour Temporary Code
  • Holdback Facility
  • 4-10 Digit Code Length
  • Code-Free Entry Electronically from Keypad
  • Remote Release
  • LED Indicator
  • Low Battery Indicator
  • 3min Lock-Out Upon 5 Code Failures
  • Tamper Alarm


UPDATE:
Now Cheaper at Amazon (thanks mcek)
amazon.co.uk/dp/…M8/

31 Comments

How daft can people be?

These kinds of lock's may get hacked?

Am I missing something? A quick search shows this is £10 cheaper elsewhere with a free night latch

safe.co.uk/pro…tml

Tokynawa6 m ago

Am I missing something? A quick search shows this is £10 cheaper …Am I missing something? A quick search shows this is £10 cheaper elsewhere with a free night latchhttps://www.safe.co.uk/products/yale-keyless-digital-lock-chrome-including-y3-nightlatch.html


Not the same lock, the equivalent on that site is safe.co.uk/pro…tml

Still waiting on a decent drop for the Conexis l1

XNET24 m ago

These kinds of lock's may get hacked?


No chance.

There's no way on earth anyone would stumble upon
Username: imadick
Password: burglme
Edited by: "ITMA" 23rd Nov

ITMA1 m ago

No chance.There's no way on earth anyone would stumble upon Username: …No chance.There's no way on earth anyone would stumble upon Username: imadickPassword: burglme


They clearly don't operate on a pure password system

I would make sure these are valid with house insurance, as are you covered if someone guesses the code and gets in.....I bet you are not

Our Virgin Holiday's Florida holiday villa had this fitted. Very easy to use and we thought it was safe secure and convenient. Yale are one of the king's of locks and security and they wouldn't release something that didn't go through extensive testing.

These are fine for AirBnB's etc where you don't have all your stuff, but I wouldnt get one for my house, & I love gadgets & smart tech. They just arent secure enough for a house my wife & kids sleep in, when they eventually release finger vein technology (cannot be fooled & finger must be attached to a live person) within a door lock & it's gone through a few years of real life testing I'll adopt that, but not until.

ITMA1 h, 5 m ago

How daft can people be?


Not sure these are designed for your front door. More to replace them digital locks firms use internally

FoxForce59 m ago

These are fine for AirBnB's etc where you don't have all your stuff, but I …These are fine for AirBnB's etc where you don't have all your stuff, but I wouldnt get one for my house, & I love gadgets & smart tech. They just arent secure enough for a house my wife & kids sleep in, when they eventually release finger vein technology (cannot be fooled & finger must be attached to a live person) within a door lock & it's gone through a few years of real life testing I'll adopt that, but not until.


gearbest.com/acc…tml

'live fingerprint unlock'

Does not come with the module to connect to your Smart home device though right? You need a Yale Module or Z-Wave Module I think.

mcek12 m ago

https://www.gearbest.com/access-control/pp_1142172.html'live fingerprint …https://www.gearbest.com/access-control/pp_1142172.html'live fingerprint unlock'


That's not fingerprint vein tech, not the good one anyway, the best in the world, & the one being used by the biggest organisations is an infrared technology that measures the hemoglobin & vein pattern so well that it cannot be fooled.

Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust a lock from Xiaomi to offer that protection, I want technology like that being used by Sthaler combined with proven lock technology at least as good as a top branded 5 lever mortice lock from the likes of Yale etc, then I want to see it used real world & let the hackers have a good for a few years, if it passes that test too, I'll consider it.

Aeschylus56 m ago

I would make sure these are valid with house insurance, as are you covered …I would make sure these are valid with house insurance, as are you covered if someone guesses the code and gets in.....I bet you are not


No these will not be covered, your insurance company will want BS (British standard) tested locks fitted, once you remove the cylinder any lock that did conform will no longer

Amzo24 m ago

Does not come with the module to connect to your Smart home device though …Does not come with the module to connect to your Smart home device though right? You need a Yale Module or Z-Wave Module I think.


screwfix.com/p/y…88r
screwfix.com/p/y…06r

FoxForce522 m ago

That's not fingerprint vein tech, not the good one anyway, the best in the …That's not fingerprint vein tech, not the good one anyway, the best in the world, & the one being used by the biggest organisations is an infrared technology that measures the hemoglobin & vein pattern so well that it cannot be fooled.Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust a lock from Xiaomi to offer that protection, I want technology like that being used by Sthaler combined with proven lock technology at least as good as a top branded 5 lever mortice lock from the likes of Yale etc, then I want to see it used real world & let the hackers have a good for a few years, if it passes that test too, I'll consider it.


I thought we were looking at house locks here, not secure commercial premises/anthrax labs?

These are all just one step up from using a key anyway, as we nervously view locks being easy to pick/bump/whatever, and with the bonus that you'll get a comforting message on your phone that someone you know/don't know has opened the door (along with your door sensor/pir/ip camera bleeping away). Consumer prices, consumer devices.

These locks aren't positioned as locks for the main door of your property but for internal doors, workshops, etc....and for that they are very good. I know because I've had one for a couple of years now

mcek47 m ago

I thought we were looking at house locks here, not secure commercial …I thought we were looking at house locks here, not secure commercial premises/anthrax labs?These are all just one step up from using a key anyway, as we nervously view locks being easy to pick/bump/whatever, and with the bonus that you'll get a comforting message on your phone that someone you know/don't know has opened the door (along with your door sensor/pir/ip camera bleeping away). Consumer prices, consumer devices.


Fair point, but in reality it's not easy for someone to pick a lock whilst remaining unobtrusive, certainly not two of them (most security conscious people will have a standard door lock & a 5 lever mortice as a minimum. Otherwise lock picking would be commonplace. Should a smart lock prove to be easy to hack though, then they could do so & gain entry as quick as a genuine owner could, that's where the danger lies imo.

So any smart lock, imo of course, should be very very difficult to hack, if not near impossible, & still has to offer at least the protection that my current lock offers in terms of physical security. Hence my demands.

Replacing my current locks with a smart lock would reduce the security currently provided, which forces a potential burglar to seek another way in, or be very loud getting through the door, for me that isn't acceptable.

We have one of these on our front door - very convenient.

You have 5 chances to guess an 8 digit code - not going to happen. Have more chance of someone picking up my dropped keys than guessing the code, in which case they're no less secure than a key. Insurance isn't an issue either - many insurance companies have said that they offer the same level of protection as a keyed lock. Hell, many even advertise them on their websites! legalandgeneral.com/art…tml

So for someone to break in they'd have to a) unlock the porch b) guess an 8 digit code within 5 attempts and c) deactivate the alarm within 20 seconds.

Quite frankly if they had any sense they'd just smash the French doors in. FUD regarding smart locks is silly.
Edited by: "bma1445" 23rd Nov

kemik1 h, 6 m ago

These locks aren't positioned as locks for the main door of your property …These locks aren't positioned as locks for the main door of your property but for internal doors, workshops, etc....and for that they are very good. I know because I've had one for a couple of years now


No, they're positioned as main door locks.

FoxForce556 m ago

Fair point, but in reality it's not easy for someone to pick a lock whilst …Fair point, but in reality it's not easy for someone to pick a lock whilst remaining unobtrusive, certainly not two of them (most security conscious people will have a standard door lock & a 5 lever mortice as a minimum. Otherwise lock picking would be commonplace. Should a smart lock prove to be easy to hack though, then they could do so & gain entry as quick as a genuine owner could, that's where the danger lies imo.So any smart lock, imo of course, should be very very difficult to hack, if not near impossible, & still has to offer at least the protection that my current lock offers in terms of physical security. Hence my demands.Replacing my current locks with a smart lock would reduce the security currently provided, which forces a potential burglar to seek another way in, or be very loud getting through the door, for me that isn't acceptable.



You have made a fair few assumptions about the security of this lock.

CoeK17 m ago

You have made a fair few assumptions about the security of this lock.


Guilty as charged!

However, in my defence, every year smart locks are hacked within minutes using easily found or bought equipment at Defcon. Every smart product has vulnerabilities, but someone hacking into my home network is not gonna give them access to my house currently. Add a smart lock & that is always a risk.

mcek2 h, 23 m ago

https://www.screwfix.com/p/yale-p-kfcon-mod-zw-z-wave-module/9588rhttps://www.screwfix.com/p/yale-p-kfcon-mod-yale-security-module/1206r



So for Smart feature use your better off with amazon.co.uk/Yal…ule

FoxForce524 m ago

Guilty as charged!However, in my defence, every year smart locks are …Guilty as charged!However, in my defence, every year smart locks are hacked within minutes using easily found or bought equipment at Defcon. Every smart product has vulnerabilities, but someone hacking into my home network is not gonna give them access to my house currently. Add a smart lock & that is always a risk.



Well lock picks have existed for years, so have bricks and glass.

It's all very well proclaiming high security and smart-connected features, but it's only as secure as the lump of meat operating it. Usually devices and computer systems are compromised by insecure passwords. Yale state you could conveniently give a code to a cleaner... who would probably do what you should never do with passwords and write them down.

If you want security, get a strong mortise lock and a baseball bat.

Amzo27 m ago

So for Smart feature use your better off with …So for Smart feature use your better off with https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Keyless-Connected-Z-Wave-Module/dp/B01CIK47JE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511446834&sr=8-3&keywords=zwave+module


Exactly, get a bundle deal. I was only pointing out that the required modules were on the screwfix site.

Original Poster

mcek4 h, 3 m ago

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Keyless-Connected-Z-Wave-Module/dp/B01DE4DFM8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511446834&sr=8-3&keywords=zwave+module&tag=ho01f-21&th=1and the Amazon price for the posted lock is cheaper


thanks, post updated.

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