AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition CPU - £119.20 delivered @ Ebuyer
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AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition CPU - £119.20 delivered @ Ebuyer

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Found 19th Feb 2009Made hot 20th Feb 2009
The AMD Phenom II processors are the most advanced processors for true multitasking offering true tri-core design. AMD Phenom II processors deliver virtually uninterrupted information flow between processor cores, main memory and graphics and video accelerators for amazingly rapid system response and phenomenal system performance. AMD Phenom II processors deliver unbeatable multi-core value with superior high definition computing, advanced multitasking performance, and innovative, energy efficient solutions.

- 2.80GHz clock speed
- 1.5MB L2 cache
- 6MB L3 cache
- DDR3-1333 support
- 45nm process technology
- True Multi-core Processing
- Direct Connect Architecture
- Integrated Dual-Channel Memory Controller with up to DDR3-1333 support
- HyperTransport 3.0
- AMD Balanced Smart Cache
- AMD Wide Floating Point Accelerator
- AMD Memory Optimizer Technology
- AMD Digital Media Xpress 2.0
- AMD Virtualization with Rapid Virtualization Indexing
- CoolnQuiet 3.0 technology

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Just for information, these are not backward compatible with AM2 boards unlike some Phenom IIs, these are for AM3 boards only which support the latest DDR3 1333mhz memory.

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cicobuff;4431503

Just for information, these are not backward compatible with AM2 boards … Just for information, these are not backward compatible with AM2 boards unlike some Phenom IIs, these are for AM3 boards only which support the latest DDR3 1333mhz memory.



Wrong!! The AM3 Phenoms have an integrated DDR2 AND DDR3 memory controller in the CPU so this processor can be used in BOTH DDR2 AM2+ and DDR3 AM3 motherboards:

anandtech.com/cpu…512

techreport.com/art…382

bit-tech.net/har…s/1

ixbtlabs.com/art…tml

According to AMD they state the following:

"Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2 8500(DDR2-1066MHz) and PC3 10600 (DDR3-1333MHz) – AM3"

Here is the spec page on the AMD webpage for the AM3 Phenom II :

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Many DDR2 AM2+ motherboards with 780G and 790GX chipsets actually will work with this processor and their compatibility lists state this. The AM3 Phenom II processors are backward compatible with AM2+ motherboards and DDR2. However the earlier Phenom II procesors - the 920 and 940 - lack the DDR3 memory controller and hence can only be used in a DDR2 AM2+ motherboard.
Most reviews have infact shown that DDR3 has minimal performance improvement with the current AM3 Phenom II processors.

White Edition is identical to Black Edition. Black Edition would have multiplier unlocked for overcloking. However, Phenoms are not good with overclocking and you would be lucky if you get this one to be stable at 3GHz.

i may jump ship from a q6600 for one of these, they do seem very good

Well, jeez, it's hard not to like the Phenom II X3 720, which is just a bundle of gimpy goodness. Thanks to its higher clock speed and larger cache, the X3 720 quite frequently outperforms its bigger brother, the Phenom II X4 810, even though it costs less. And, at 2.8GHz, the 720 is fast enough to match up pretty well against the Core 2 Duo E8400 in many applications—including games—that tend to run best with fewer and faster cores. In more widely multithreaded apps where the 720's third core kicks in, the Phenom II X3 almost always outruns the E8400, sometimes dramatically. Oddly enough, the 720's combination of three cores and relatively high clock speeds may be the ideal trade-off for the current state of PC software. Who knew?

Add in the X3 720's fairly tame power consumption, its apparently excellent overclocking proposition, and the fact that—regardless of memory type—the Phenom II has a superior system architecture to the Core 2, and the E8400 starts to look rather weak by comparison. The Phenom II X3 720 is our new favorite among mid-range PC processors. Look for it to secure a place in one of the builds in our upcoming system guide refresh.

The Phenom II X4 810 is also generally faster and more attractive overall than the Core 2 Quad Q8200, but I can't say I like the value propsition with either of these processors all that well. Because of their reduced cache sizes and clock speeds, these value quad-cores rely almost entirely on multithreaded applications to achieve strong performance. When software doesn't oblige (and it often doesn't), they stumble, as illustrated by the Q8200's poor showings in several of our benchmarks, including MS Office, Firefox, and the gaming tests. For the vast majority of users, the Phenom II X3 720 will be a better choice, and it costs less.

Oh, and we didn't see much in the way of performance gains when moving the Phenom II X4 810 from DDR2 memory to DDR3 memory. That's no great shock, all things considered, and no knock on AMD's implementation of Socket AM3. I suspect we may see more benefits from DDR3 once we get our hands on a non-neutered Socket AM3 quad-core, like a Phenom II X4 940 or something even faster, especially if AMD builds in support for higher memory frequencies. Until then, Socket AM3 is a fine upgrade path waiting for a reason to exist. TR

voted hot, good stuff. i been a user of AMD since last 3 years

I have a big doubt that Q6600 is inferior to Phenom X3. Q6600 is best thing for consumer that Intel shipped so far. You can easily overclock Q6660 to 3Ghz by raising bus speed. Some peole get Q6600 to run at 3.2-3.4Ghz, but that's rather hard.

If you look at numbers Q6600 at 3Ghz with 4 cores will outperform any Phenom X3, considering that highest you can get with Phenom is 3Ghz.

If you were to buy a new CPU, then yes Phenom would make more sense than Q6600 due to price, but upgrade? You would not be getting any performance increase.

Banned

I've had a Q6600 for a while now, still haven't really touched the clock speeds, is it worth me getting something new or just play with the settings a little to run it faster?

Edit: Using a ASUS P5E3 Deluxe AiLifestyle iX38 Socket 775 Motherboard

dcx_badass;4433450

Voted cold, I want the white edition.


Racist

:w00t:

CTPAHHIK;4433551

I have a big doubt that Q6600 is inferior to Phenom X3. Q6600 is best … I have a big doubt that Q6600 is inferior to Phenom X3. Q6600 is best thing for consumer that Intel shipped so far. You can easily overclock Q6660 to 3Ghz by raising bus speed. Some peole get Q6600 to run at 3.2-3.4Ghz, but that's rather hard. If you look at numbers Q6600 at 3Ghz with 4 cores will outperform any Phenom X3, considering that highest you can get with Phenom is 3Ghz.If you were to buy a new CPU, then yes Phenom would make more sense than Q6600 due to price, but upgrade? You would not be getting any performance increase.



i disagree, i have my q6600 at 3.2- 3.4, at standard the 720 is faster than a q6600 in games, then you can overclock the 720 to 3.5ghz easily done.

i think the 720 is an upgrade

http://www.techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/ut3.gif


http://www.techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/hl2.gif


Overclocked to 3.5ghz vs other cpus at stock
http://www.techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/hl2-oc.gif

Hi there, hope not to offend anybodt with this coment, but i believe the people should do a little more of research b4 giving advice to thers. This chip will overclock to 3.7 Ghz neoseeker.com/Art…tml adjunstinf slightly the vcore and out of the box, just simply increasinf FSB you can get it up to 3.4 About people who are thinking to go for this chip to replace a q6600, i dont think it would be a good idea. The q6600 ususally (i know there is some chips who doesn want to overclock) can easily go to 3.3 or some ones even to 3.8 (on air cooling) so you will get the same speed but not only the q6600 has 4 cores and the amd has 3 cores; think about the SSD from the intel procesos. My intention with this coment is ti help to someone, not to annoy anybody

Just saw this, about to read it:
tomshardware.com/rev…tml

If you have a good motherboard and aftermarket heatsink, then yes. You can take a look at forums on how other people push Q6600. If you have generic build system with stock components it probably would not work for you. Either way 2.4 to 2.6 shold be possible with all generic parts.

For instance:
tomshardware.co.uk/for…tml

Balb0wa,

you are giving benchmarks from games that do not support quad core. For above go with highest clocked dual core CPU you can find and you get best results. This is no longer true for today's games as most of them support all 4 cores.

Balb0wa... The images with the graphs one question.... Are they comparing the 720 overclocked to 3.5 while they are kkeping the rest of processors on stock frequencies? I am not to sure if this is correct but if it is i believe the graph comparison would be meaningless. If you want to compare a 720 with a q6600 you should either overclock both of them or none of them. Otherwise it is not a fair comparisonn. Dont you think so?

tonyswan;4433711

Balb0wa... The images with the graphs one question.... Are they comparing … Balb0wa... The images with the graphs one question.... Are they comparing the 720 overclocked to 3.5 while they are kkeping the rest of processors on stock frequencies? I am not to sure if this is correct but if it is i believe the graph comparison would be meaningless. If you want to compare a 720 with a q6600 you should either overclock both of them or none of them. Otherwise it is not a fair comparisonn. Dont you think so?



i say in the post , 720 overclocked vs other cpus at stock

As for game benchmarks im just posting whats in the review, have a go at the reviewers for not including games that are quad core optimised.

Also the 720 has lower power consumption than a q6600.

I have a q6600, i know what it does overclocked.

great benchies although i'd rather go for a quad core

pretty good value though voted hot

Hmm to get this or a E8500???

tonyswan;4433655

Hi there, hope not to offend anybodt with this coment, but i believe the … Hi there, hope not to offend anybodt with this coment, but i believe the people should do a little more of research b4 giving advice to thers. This chip will overclock to 3.7 Ghz http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/phenom_ii_x3_720be/15.html adjunstinf slightly the vcore and out of the box, just simply increasinf FSB you can get it up to 3.4 About people who are thinking to go for this chip to replace a q6600, i dont think it would be a good idea. The q6600 ususally (i know there is some chips who doesn want to overclock) can easily go to 3.3 or some ones even to 3.8 (on air cooling) so you will get the same speed but not only the q6600 has 4 cores and the amd has 3 cores; think about the SSD from the intel procesos. My intention with this coment is ti help to someone, not to annoy anybody



You are right, I did not know new X3 can overclock that good. X4 920 and 940 were barely hitting 3.2Ghz.

This seems to be the pattern:
X4 - 920, 940 - 3.2Ghz
X4 - 8 series - 3.4Ghz
X3 - around 3.7Ghz

Now, X3 at 3.7 is balck edition. Do you think it's possible to push bus high enough to hit 3.5 on X3 - 710?

What's with the moderator? Some of my posts are not going through. Already missing two.

CTPAHHIK;4433806

What's with the moderator? Some of my posts are not going through. … What's with the moderator? Some of my posts are not going through. Already missing two.



probably has a **** filter on

wozza2k;4433791

Hmm to get this or a E8500???



I would go with 720 extra core would make a difference in the long run.

i think there good cpus, usa price is $145, i think the uk price is slighlty high.

If you have the Q6600 overclock it and save the money for a much better CPU....:thumbsup:

Anyone know how this would compare to the Phenom X4 9600 Black Edition?

How does one go about finding out if it works on a Dell Dual core C521?

adchesney;4434257

How does one go about finding out if it works on a Dell Dual core C521?


You need to find out what motherboard is in there (will be in the paperwork somewhere) and then go to the manufacturer's website and look at which processors are compatible.

If my quick Google found the right one, then I don't think it's compatible as it's the wrong socket type: pcupgrade.co.uk/pro…271

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dcx_badass;4433450

Voted cold, I want the white edition.



Chortle Chortle!! What a plonker!

nice but expensive

KITTYBOTS;4432248

Wrong!! The AM3 Phenoms have an integrated DDR2 AND DDR3 memory … Wrong!! The AM3 Phenoms have an integrated DDR2 AND DDR3 memory controller in the CPU so this processor can be used in BOTH DDR2 AM2+ and DDR3 AM3 motherboards:Many DDR2 AM2+ motherboards with 780G and 790GX chipsets actually will work with this processor and their compatibility lists state this. The AM3 Phenom II processors are backward compatible with AM2+ motherboards and DDR2. However the earlier Phenom II procesors - the 920 and 940 - lack the DDR3 memory controller and hence can only be used in a DDR2 AM2+ motherboard.Most reviews have infact shown that DDR3 has minimal performance improvement with the current AM3 Phenom II processors.



Ah, thanks for clearing that up, it was that bit I was mistaken on, I presumed because the ones designed for AM2+ not being compatible with AM3 boards, the AM3 ones would only be compatible with AM3 boards and DDR3.

After reading reviews on these processors, seems whilst they shortfall the processing power of the Intel I7 particularly in reviews on photo rendering, they offer far better bang for your buck.

This is a very good processor, rivals the E8400 and is better or equal in many ways and it DOES overclock well. I dunno why people post misleading stuff :rolleyes:

quick question . Am i right to think my CPU is about due an upgrade? Ive got a E2160 (which i think runs default at 1.8GHZ if im not mistaken) But mine is running happily at 3.4GHZ and has been since day one. I was assured at the time this bought it in line which some top end CPUS. Would i notice a massive improvement if i went to a Q6600 (at stock) or moved over to AMD with this?

dean_brfc;4434223

Anyone know how this would compare to the Phenom X4 9600 Black Edition?



That's exactly what I have. I think this one would outperform 9600, if both are overclocked.
Definitely would see a performance boost in dual core games, but not much gain in quad core games. If you looking to upgrade it does not make sense, get a new video card instead.

kristianity77;4435950

quick question . Am i right to think my CPU is about due an upgrade? … quick question . Am i right to think my CPU is about due an upgrade? Ive got a E2160 (which i think runs default at 1.8GHZ if im not mistaken) But mine is running happily at 3.4GHZ and has been since day one. I was assured at the time this bought it in line which some top end CPUS. Would i notice a massive improvement if i went to a Q6600 (at stock) or moved over to AMD with this?



What are you using it for? And what's the rest of your system?

You will notice an improvement, but the gains will not show themselves significantly unless you are doing lots of media encoding, or are playing games at high detail (and have decent graphics to back it up).

kristianity77;4435950

quick question . Am i right to think my CPU is about due an upgrade? … quick question . Am i right to think my CPU is about due an upgrade? Ive got a E2160 (which i think runs default at 1.8GHZ if im not mistaken) But mine is running happily at 3.4GHZ and has been since day one. I was assured at the time this bought it in line which some top end CPUS. Would i notice a massive improvement if i went to a Q6600 (at stock) or moved over to AMD with this?



At 3.4Ghz you should be OK. You would see 10%-20% gain if you get 720 to 3.4Ghz in dual core apps. Much faster if you running anything that would be able to utilize all 3 cores simultaneously.

rest of the system is 2GB Ram (DDR2 800 i believe) 8800GT 512 Graphics (had this about 12 months i think, not sure if this is indeed outdated now - But seems to Chug with Crysis, STALKER etc)

kristianity77;4436123

rest of the system is 2GB Ram (DDR2 800 i believe) 8800GT 512 Graphics … rest of the system is 2GB Ram (DDR2 800 i believe) 8800GT 512 Graphics (had this about 12 months i think, not sure if this is indeed outdated now - But seems to Chug with Crysis, STALKER etc)



I have not tried crysis, but Stalker runs fine on mine. I have 9600BE at 2.5Ghz with 9600GT card. I can max Clear Sky on 1680x1050 without DX10 effects. Running under XP. For some reason it's not stable under Vista.

8800GT should be faster than 9600GT by about 10%-15%.

Are you running XP or Vista? 2GB for Vista is not enough. Make sure you have as much free RAM as possible.

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Im running Vista now (64 bit) but when i last tried Stalker i was running XP SP2. My monitors native Res is 1280 x 1024 and i could never get smooth playability (admittedly, i could if i lowered the graphical settings considerably) but was never sure whether this was a CPU bottleneck or a Video Card one
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