AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Quad Core Processor - £69.07 @ CCL Computers (quidco/Tcb 3% - £67)
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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Quad Core Processor - £69.07 @ CCL Computers (quidco/Tcb 3% - £67)

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Found 22nd Sep 2012
The AMD Phenom II processors are the most advanced processors for true multitasking offering true quad-core design. AMD Phenom II processors deliver virtually uninterrupted information flow between processor cores, main memory and graphics and video accelerators for amazingly rapid system response and phenomenal system performance. AMD Phenom II processors deliver unbeatable multi-core value with superior high definition computing, advanced multitasking performance, and innovative, energy efficient solutions.

3.4GHz x4
512KB L2 Cache x4
6MB L3 Cache
Socket AM3 / 125W
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Unlocked Multiplier For Easy Overclocking
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anyone got a comparison of this and a lets say an i3 or i5 intel ? in terms of how good or bad speed etc is
very good for the price
n1ttygr1tty

anyone got a comparison of this and a lets say an i3 or i5 intel ? in … anyone got a comparison of this and a lets say an i3 or i5 intel ? in terms of how good or bad speed etc is



It's slower and it's been around longer, but it's a respectable chip, compared to say, bulldozer.
Mmm I've got a 720, probably not worth the upgrade but good price
What do others reckon?
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the only AMD desktop CPU worth buying these days.

but just looking at things like 125W TDP makes you want to buy Intel anyway.
n1ttygr1tty

anyone got a comparison of this and a lets say an i3 or i5 intel ? in … anyone got a comparison of this and a lets say an i3 or i5 intel ? in terms of how good or bad speed etc is



cpubenchmark.net/hig…tml
still good enough to push an AMD 7970 to maximum frames and can always overclock a bit if not confident. Cannot find any difference when used with my 965(4203 passmark) or my intel 2600k(9073 passmark) but saying so crossfiring the same card will definetely need a something better than the 965.
I'd just buy a Core i3-2100/2120 and be done with it. If you're already on AMD and this is a significant upgrade for you, then it's worthwhile.
Can any of you kind souls suggest a decent (but not OTT) motherboard for this?
I'm seriously considering building my own mid-range desktop but have only done this before using Intel motherboards and CPUs.
Thanks!
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using this now..

Paired with a GTX 460 and 4gb ram.

Can run anything I throw at it with nice settings
sherg

using this now..Paired with a GTX 460 and 4gb ram.Can run anything I … using this now..Paired with a GTX 460 and 4gb ram.Can run anything I throw at it with nice settings



Any suggestions for a MoBo, sherg? Not looking to build a high-power gaming rig, just something reasonably powerful that won't be obsolete in 6 months
Old tech at a reasonable price. Certainly not worth buying unless you already have a dual core AM3 socket processor you want to upgrade.
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WillieGophar

Any suggestions for a MoBo, sherg? Not looking to build a high-power … Any suggestions for a MoBo, sherg? Not looking to build a high-power gaming rig, just something reasonably powerful that won't be obsolete in 6 months



if you're that worried about being future-proof, don't consider buying 3 year old CPU in the first place.
no point from my 555 unlocked open to quad core running at 3.82GHz then, Intel will be my next chip along with a move back to Nvidia from ATi
ouch 125w tdp, amd offer hexcores with 95w tdp for a bit more, 1045t comes to mind
What are these merchants like?

I've got this in my basket at Amazon for about £73, but haven't made up my mind which mobo to go for.

Any suggestions? I want a full ATX and USB 3, plus expansion options. I already have a Samsung SSD.

Please no comments about going for an Intel instead - I've weighed up the options and have decided that bang for buck this is a great price for I believe a reasonable chip.
Great CPU, had mine two years now, with 16gb ram & an SSD!
kunyk

if you're that worried about being future-proof, don't consider buying 3 … if you're that worried about being future-proof, don't consider buying 3 year old CPU in the first place.


Thanks for your 'help' kunyk. The question was which MoBo would suit this CPU as well as having some sort of upgrade path.
If there is not such a MoBo for this CPU, then that would have been a more helpful comment.
WillieGophar

Thanks for your 'help' kunyk. The question was which MoBo would suit … Thanks for your 'help' kunyk. The question was which MoBo would suit this CPU as well as having some sort of upgrade path.If there is not such a MoBo for this CPU, then that would have been a more helpful comment.



His comment was helpful, you stated you want something that wont be obsolete in 6 months, buying this cpu and mobo would be a bad idea given that criteria. Theres no value in AMD any more. Buy once, buy right. Buy intel.
I'm using this with my black edition and all good so far

cclonline.com/pro…62/
intranix

His comment was helpful, you stated you want something that wont be … His comment was helpful, you stated you want something that wont be obsolete in 6 months, buying this cpu and mobo would be a bad idea given that criteria. Theres no value in AMD any more. Buy once, buy right. Buy intel.


So... if I buy ANY Intel chip and ANY compatible MoBo, I'ts guaranteed to not be obsolete in 6 months? Sigh... oh well - maybe somebody else can give me some constructive advice?
WillieGophar

Can any of you kind souls suggest a decent (but not OTT) motherboard for … Can any of you kind souls suggest a decent (but not OTT) motherboard for this?I'm seriously considering building my own mid-range desktop but have only done this before using Intel motherboards and CPUs.Thanks!



Have a look at this board - I've had a few Asus boards always been pleased with them

cclonline.com/pro…67/

For what it's worth, I've got the 955 black edition version of this processor and it's more than fast enough for day to day PC work (gets a 7.4 windows 7 rating on my PC)
WillieGophar

So... if I buy ANY Intel chip and ANY compatible MoBo, I'ts guaranteed to … So... if I buy ANY Intel chip and ANY compatible MoBo, I'ts guaranteed to not be obsolete in 6 months? Sigh... oh well - maybe somebody else can give me some constructive advice?



That isn't what I said. Seems to me you're not actually open to any constructive advice, so I'll leave it there. Good luck.
Was using this model with my 5850 up until a few weeks ago. Definitely still holds its own, runs BF3, Planetside 2 etc but I forked out for a i5 3570k a few weeks back and it is a beast of a chip and was worth the upgrade.

Basically, you are getting a good old chip for a good price but it will become out dated within the year.
kunyk says what needs to be said. no more, no less.
Edited by: "conor147" 22nd Sep 2012
hoof hearted

Have a look at this board - I've had a few Asus boards always been … Have a look at this board - I've had a few Asus boards always been pleased with themhttp://www.cclonline.com/product/73449/90-MIBG70-G0EAY00Z/Motherboards/Asus-M5A78L-M/USB3-Motherboard/MBD0267/For what it's worth, I've got the 955 black edition version of this processor and it's more than fast enough for day to day PC work (gets a 7.4 windows 7 rating on my PC)


Thanks very much hoof. I seem to have annoyed a couple of reply-ers on here - didn't mean to - just wanted exactly the kind of advice you've given.
I'm Running my 720 black edition with the forth core unlocked still atthis speed so equicialnt chip, runs well in a am2+ mobo with 8 GB ram. Does most stuff I throw at it ok, but will replace it in a month or two because its cheaper for ddr3 and I want 16gb or more ram.
WillieGophar

So... if I buy ANY Intel chip and ANY compatible MoBo, I'ts guaranteed to … So... if I buy ANY Intel chip and ANY compatible MoBo, I'ts guaranteed to not be obsolete in 6 months? Sigh... oh well - maybe somebody else can give me some constructive advice?



No the point is you're asking about basing a system around this chip, and everyone in the know including myself is advising you to look elsewhere. This is a decent upgrade for an existing system. I would look for a H77 motherboard and a Core i3 if you're on a budget, if you want some future proofing then you'd look at Z77 with a view to changing the CPU in the future and overclocking. You can stick with H77 and just add a better CPU in the future.

forums.steampowered.com/for…080

"Phenom II is pretty much EOL and even in a AM3+ motherboard the outlook does not look very promising for a future good performance upgrade. I would say go with Intel at this time."
Edited by: "fishmaster" 22nd Sep 2012
WillieGophar

Thanks very much hoof. I seem to have annoyed a couple of reply-ers on … Thanks very much hoof. I seem to have annoyed a couple of reply-ers on here - didn't mean to - just wanted exactly the kind of advice you've given.



The problem is you seem intent on basing a system around this CPU which is simply not the thing to be doing, anyway you asked and we replied, if you don't like the answer don't ask the question.
got this same processor of amazon myself a few months back .. i even posted teh deal

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current set-up is

AMD Phenom II X4 965 - 3.4 Ghz AM3 Black Edition
Asus M4A785D-M Pro AMD 785G
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz
Sapphire 6850 1GB, Sony Blu ray drive,

cant decide wether to get a mobo that supports ddr3 or just plump up £50 go get another 4gig of ddr2 ram ....the max i can get is 8 gig even tho the mobo supports 16 you cant get sticks for it
willie ..... whiel i have this system i wouldnt recomment it if you havn't already got existing parts that would be used already ... for instance if you had an existing mobo and ddr2 ram that used this processor path then going from say a dual core 545 to this would be ideal.

but the limitign factor is ddr2 ram is expensive and if you want more than 8gb your stuffed ( as ive found out ) . i think i'll have to change my mobo to one that suports ddr3 so i can get the best out of my system ... but your buildign from scatch ... not worth it imo
Edited by: "TALON1973" 22nd Sep 2012
New AMD cpus are coming out soon. So they might come down even more in price.
fishmaster

No the point is you're asking about basing a system around this chip, and … No the point is you're asking about basing a system around this chip, and everyone in the know including myself is advising you to look elsewhere. This is a decent upgrade for an existing system. I would look for a H77 motherboard and a Core i3 if you're on a budget, if you want some future proofing then you'd look at Z77 with a view to changing the CPU in the future and overclocking. You can stick with H77 and just add a better CPU in the future. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2719080"Phenom II is pretty much EOL and even in a AM3+ motherboard the outlook does not look very promising for a future good performance upgrade. I would say go with Intel at this time."


Thanks fishmaster for the advice. Didn't mean to be snotty - I'm just frustrated that I used to know a reasonable amount about PC configs and now find I've been left way behind.
TALON1973

willie ..... whiel i have this system i wouldnt recomment it if you … willie ..... whiel i have this system i wouldnt recomment it if you havn't already got existing parts that would be used already ... for instance if you had an existing mobo and ddr2 ram that used this processor path then going from say a dual core 545 to this would be ideal.but the limitign factor is ddr2 ram is expensive and if you want more than 8gb your stuffed ( as ive found out ) . i think i'll have to change my mobo to one that suports ddr3 so i can get the best out of my system ... but your buildign from scatch ... not worth it imo


That's a very helpful and honest answer talon - thanks very much. Now where did I put that spare Pentium P3...
dont get me wrong ...its a crackign system .. i love it .....but once on on it your at the best your going to get .. if you did buy a mobo that supports ddr3 ram then that will be about the only upgrade you coudl do


have you got a budget in mind ? ( sorry not reed all the thread )


also will add .. if your after usb 3 i pretty sure it cant be done .. the mobos for this chip were out before usb 3
Edited by: "TALON1973" 22nd Sep 2012
jimonyzangs

Mmm I've got a 720, probably not worth the upgrade but good priceWhat do … Mmm I've got a 720, probably not worth the upgrade but good priceWhat do others reckon?



iv got a 720.. Not worth the upgrade, but if you think you need a little boost you could try & unlock the 4th core. Even if that fails you could very easily over clock it by just changing the multiplier in the bios. Iv got mine running 3.3ghz
but to answer one of your other questions re- which mobo .. i say :-

Asus website

http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/bZpT4egUiqtojuHR/P_500.jpg

its supports 125w cpu which is what you will need .. and is ddr3 so that will do that job
Edited by: "TALON1973" 22nd Sep 2012
Anyone needing a decent motherboard, Pretty much any Mid-range AM3 Asus or Gigabyte board would be well suited to this Chip, coupled to an ATi 5750 Graphics card and 4-6GB DDR3 and you're laughing. Would make a decent system for light gaming. Ok, it wont play the latest games in highest quality, but it should still be a half decent rig.
If you're buying from CCL, have a look at their AM3 motherboards - they have a pretty good selection. As a basic rule of thumb, you get what you pay for so just go for the best you can afford/want to pay. You might want to get one that has the best chipset for the money, since it will be slightly faster. Google is your friend in this instance, just read the reviews.
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