AMD Ryzen 1600 £185.99 - lowest price on Amazon
653°Expired

AMD Ryzen 1600 £185.99 - lowest price on Amazon

£185.99Amazon Deals
48
Found 7th Jul 2017
Price is lowest it's been according to Camel. Price is the same at Overclockers.co.uk

A very respectable CPU, 6 cores 12 threads of juicy computational power.

For the love of god don't start an Intel vs AMD flame war in the comments.
Community Updates

Groups

Top comments
For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I reluctantly upgraded to a Ryzen 5 1600 a couple months ago. I say reluctantly because I was worried I wouldn't notice a big difference. I was wrong. The Ryzen is cooler and quieter, running on stock heatsink and fan. It overclocked to 3.8GHz quite happily without getting much hotter, but tbh, running it at stock speeds it still blows my old i5 out the water. I really wasn't expecting such pronounced performance gains in games. Overall frame rates only gone up by maybe 10-20% but what's really nice is that there are no frequent dips in frame rates now I.e. no stuttering which I used to get fairly regularly at busy points in a variety of recent games. (Typically running very high/ultra @ 1080p/144Hz on an R9 290X)

Absolutely no regrets and glad to finally be back on AMD after them having no answer to Intel since my first Core2Duo which replaced an Athlon 900MHz single core

Can't comment on VR though.
"12 threads of juicy computational power"
48 Comments
"12 threads of juicy computational power"
So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer objectively, but is there a benefit in moving to this over my i5-6600k processor? I only use my computer for VR.

Also, would the i7-6700k be a better option?

Thanks
Original Poster
priceyrice

So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer … So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer objectively, but is there a benefit in moving to this over my i5-6600k processor? I only use my computer for VR.Also, would the i7-6700k be a better option?Thanks



That's a tricky one, on one hand Intel has a higher single core IPC and outmatches Ryzen in gaming at least at 1080p. However Ryzen is "future-proof" in that performance can only get better provided games start utilising all the cores provided to them. VR gaming requires high resolution but I don't know if VR handles multiple cores differently, so I can't comment on whether Ryzen or Intel is more suitable for your environment. What I can say is that if decide to stick with Intel, you'd be better off going i7-7700k instead of 6700k. Even then your current CPU is relatively new so you may not have noticeable gains in performance.

Please anyone call me out on any **** or misinformation, I'm going off the top of my head.
priceyrice

So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer … So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer objectively, but is there a benefit in moving to this over my i5-6600k processor? I only use my computer for VR.Also, would the i7-6700k be a better option?Thanks


There have been minimal performance improvements on the most recent generations of Intel CPUs. Personally I think it's far too soon to be considering an upgrade - it's plenty fast for anything at the moment, and I can't imagine you'd see any noticeable improvements unless you spent a considerable amount on a signifcant upgrade (E.g. Intel's new X299 platform).
Hoooooootttttt
priceyrice

So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer … So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer objectively, but is there a benefit in moving to this over my i5-6600k processor? I only use my computer for VR.Also, would the i7-6700k be a better option?Thanks



It's easy enough.

Upgrade your GPU if anything at all.

Awesome price btw, good spot. There's some information in this thread for anybody after other offers:

hotukdeals.com/dea…380
Edited by: "The_Hoff" 7th Jul 2017
Intel owner here, not looking to flame.

Out of curiosity, has anyone here owning an i7 7700k been considering a swap to an AMD equivalent because of the "do not overclock" fiasco a couple of months ago?

extremetech.com/com…ing

For passmark benchmarks SPECIFICALLY, this ranks at 100, whilst the i7 7700k ranks at 103. Could it be a good time to consider the swap? Not sure what AMD mobo prices are like at the moment though. Would the AMD's Overclockable equivelent of the 7700k be the 1600 "X", or is there another range aside from Ryzen that would be closer? I've never bought AMD hardware before. I mainly game at 1440p along with general browsing etc, no VR.

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…php

EDIT: This is £186 compared to £300+, I feel like this is the "i5" range of AMD? Can somebody clear this up for me? I don't want to argue over the schematics about the passmark benchmark list I posted, but if someone could explain why the AMD scores higher if it can be seen as a weaker chip in other tests that would be appreciated.

Edited by: "LeftResponse" 7th Jul 2017
such a great price
LeftResponse

The 1600 "X", would that be AMD's Overclockable equivelent of the 7700k … The 1600 "X", would that be AMD's Overclockable equivelent of the 7700k or is there something else that would be closer?


All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked. To overclock you just need a minimum of a B350 motherboard (so no A320 boards).

Having said, that unless you do a lot of multi-tasking of play BF1 multiplayer all the time, there's little point upgrading from a i7-7700K. Buying a new system now is a totally different story as for the price of R5 1600 + B350 ~£250) you'd only get a non-K i5 on the Intel side. For the i5-7600K + Z270 mobo + cooler (AMD include a good cooler with this R5 1600 whereas Intel no longer do for 'K' CPUs), you are talking about £325. A difference which is enough to be able to buy better RAM or budget a better CPU.
It's the same price at OcUK on their 'Today Only' deal. This will probally increase in price tomorrow at Amazon hence the price match.
Gkains

All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked. To overclock you just need a minimum of a … All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked. To overclock you just need a minimum of a B350 motherboard (so no A320 boards).Having said, that unless you do a lot of multi-tasking of play BF1 multiplayer all the time, there's little point upgrading from a i7-7700K. Buying a new system now is a totally different story as for the price of R5 1600 + B350 ~£250) you'd only get a non-K i5 on the Intel side. For the i5-7600K + Z270 mobo + cooler (AMD include a good cooler with this R5 1600 whereas Intel no longer do for 'K' CPUs), you are talking about £325. A difference which is enough to be able to buy better RAM or budget a better CPU.



Woah, so you can build a new AMD rig for considerably cheaper of equal spec this generation? I know AMD have always been cheaper, but the price difference this generation is really this much?

Is the Ryzen 1600 the i7 7700 range equivalent?
Edited by: "LeftResponse" 7th Jul 2017
The_Tiggy

That's a tricky one, on one hand Intel has a higher single core IPC and … That's a tricky one, on one hand Intel has a higher single core IPC and outmatches Ryzen in gaming at least at 1080p. However Ryzen is "future-proof" in that performance can only get better provided games start utilising all the cores provided to them. VR gaming requires high resolution but I don't know if VR handles multiple cores differently, so I can't comment on whether Ryzen or Intel is more suitable for your environment. What I can say is that if decide to stick with Intel, you'd be better off going i7-7700k instead of 6700k. Even then your current CPU is relatively new so you may not have noticeable gains in performance.Please anyone call me out on any **** or misinformation, I'm going off the top of my head.



Thanks for your detailed reply, it's most useful. TBH, not really sure whether it's worth upgrading at the moment, as you mention any performance upgrade will be minimal and my processor does not seem to bottle neck any VR games, I am more just thinking of future proofing, probably better just to wait!
tickedon

There have been minimal performance improvements on the most recent … There have been minimal performance improvements on the most recent generations of Intel CPUs. Personally I think it's far too soon to be considering an upgrade - it's plenty fast for anything at the moment, and I can't imagine you'd see any noticeable improvements unless you spent a considerable amount on a signifcant upgrade (E.g. Intel's new X299 platform).



Thanks for the reply, I am in agreement, the performance upgrade will be minimal with current chips (without spending a fortune) and my VR performance is not affected and I have a GTX 1080, I just have issues when I see a good HUK deal!
priceyrice

So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer … So I appreciate this probably isn't an easy question to answer objectively, but is there a benefit in moving to this over my i5-6600k processor?


So I don't know
tickedon

There have been minimal performance improvements on the most recent … There have been minimal performance improvements on the most recent generations of Intel CPUs. Personally I think it's far too soon to be considering an upgrade - it's plenty fast for anything at the moment, and I can't imagine you'd see any noticeable improvements unless you spent a considerable amount on a signifcant upgrade (E.g. Intel's new X299 platform).



Agreed. The Ryzen 5 1600 is probably offers the best price/performance of any CPU out there today. But I don't think it would be noticeably faster than the 4 year old i5-4570 I have now. The only reason I would upgrade would be to get access to newer technologies like M.2 PCIe NVME SSDs (or if my current system failed)
LeftResponse

Woah, so you can build a new AMD rig for considerably cheaper of equal … Woah, so you can build a new AMD rig for considerably cheaper of equal spec this generation? I know AMD have always been cheaper, but the price difference this generation is really this much?Is the Ryzen 1600 the i7 7700 range equivalent?



The i7s will still outperform Ryzen series chips in single threaded tasks, but they'll be equal in the sense that neither a 7700K or 1600 will bottleneck a high end GPU for anything less than 4K gaming, and for multithreaded workloads the 1600 can be considered equivalent to the i7 line. So in this sense yeah, you can pick up a 1600 and overclock-compatible B350 motherboard for considerably less than the price of a 7700K alone.
Edited by: "ElGofre" 7th Jul 2017
For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I reluctantly upgraded to a Ryzen 5 1600 a couple months ago. I say reluctantly because I was worried I wouldn't notice a big difference. I was wrong. The Ryzen is cooler and quieter, running on stock heatsink and fan. It overclocked to 3.8GHz quite happily without getting much hotter, but tbh, running it at stock speeds it still blows my old i5 out the water. I really wasn't expecting such pronounced performance gains in games. Overall frame rates only gone up by maybe 10-20% but what's really nice is that there are no frequent dips in frame rates now I.e. no stuttering which I used to get fairly regularly at busy points in a variety of recent games. (Typically running very high/ultra @ 1080p/144Hz on an R9 290X)

Absolutely no regrets and glad to finally be back on AMD after them having no answer to Intel since my first Core2Duo which replaced an Athlon 900MHz single core

Can't comment on VR though.
Best price yet for the best value CPU on the UK market; gets my vote!
Pair it with 2x8GB of 3200 DDR4 in a cheap B350 motherboard*, overclock to ~3.7GHz, and you should be a happy camper for a good long while.

Total outlay ~£360.

Only problem atm is the lack of GPUs to go with it

*An MSI B350 is probably the best mobo choice atm; good power delivery across the whole range + cashback promotion.

Edited by: "TehJumpingJawa" 12th Jul 2017
stop doing this to me over £40 i lost now on my pc build i done 2 weeks ago.
Amazing deal.

Worth pointing out that the motherboards and extras are cheap too. This cpu itself comes with a decent stock cooler. Also if you feel like upgrading the motherboards can handle newer cpu through 2020.

The main difference you will notice is that this CPU will multi task a lot better. The moment the extra threads and cores come into play it will race way ahead. Feel free to run lots of background apps, record video, multiple browsers etc. whilst playing a demanding game(or two) at the same time. It will take much more bottle neck these.

In single threads these are very close to the high clocked i5 and i7 which is why there is so much excitement.

If you are upgrading from the i5 and i7, you are fine. No need to rush unless you would like the extra cores.
i got 1 these few weeks back plus motherboad and now they are nearly £30 cheaper ( i did email a few days after order as they went down £10 and asked for a price refund and they sent me credit to account of £2.50 as good will gesture and prices went back up abit the day they sent email.)

if i was to order these now in my other account and send new items back on my account where i orderd at more expense will i get any problems as i already had that small part refund?

any susgestions please
pothead13

i got 1 these few weeks back plus motherboad and now they are nearly £30 … i got 1 these few weeks back plus motherboad and now they are nearly £30 cheaper ( i did email a few days after order as they went down £10 and asked for a price refund and they sent me credit to account of £2.50 as good will gesture and prices went back up abit the day they sent email.) if i was to order these now in my other account and send new items back on my account where i orderd at more expense will i get any problems as i already had that small part refund? any susgestions please


Not a particularly helpful suggestion, but you've broken the number one rule of buying PC parts:
after buying something, don't look at prices for at least 2-3 months!
Zen1984

For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I … For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I reluctantly upgraded to a Ryzen 5 1600 a couple months ago. I say reluctantly because I was worried I wouldn't notice a big difference. I was wrong. The Ryzen is cooler and quieter, running on stock heatsink and fan. It overclocked to 3.8GHz quite happily without getting much hotter, but tbh, running it at stock speeds it still blows my old i5 out the water. I really wasn't expecting such pronounced performance gains in games. Overall frame rates only gone up by maybe 10-20% but what's really nice is that there are no frequent dips in frame rates now I.e. no stuttering which I used to get fairly regularly at busy points in a variety of recent games. (Typically running very high/ultra @ 1080p/144Hz on an R9 290X)Absolutely no regrets and glad to finally be back on AMD after them having no answer to Intel since my first Core2Duo which replaced an Athlon 900MHz single core :{Can't comment on VR though.


Out of interest what graphics card are you using now?

I am still of the same generation, but with the i7-2600K still happily running alongside a GTX670 and 16GB RAM, but with the recent steam sale realising that if I do decide to move out of my large backlog of steam games into something genuinely new it struggles.

And also like you my last AMD was prior to my Intel Core 2 Quad. Maybe times have changed buy my opinion of AMD was that they could compete well in the budget to mid range market, but if you really wanted performance they struggled to have something to compete with Intel. Also some of the features such as GPU built in to CPU are just of no interest to me as it will be in a full size gaming tower with dedicated graphics card, not a small discrete HTPC.
Avenger1324

Out of interest what graphics card are you using now?I am still of the … Out of interest what graphics card are you using now?I am still of the same generation, but with the i7-2600K still happily running alongside a GTX670 and 16GB RAM, but with the recent steam sale realising that if I do decide to move out of my large backlog of steam games into something genuinely new it struggles.And also like you my last AMD was prior to my Intel Core 2 Quad. Maybe times have changed buy my opinion of AMD was that they could compete well in the budget to mid range market, but if you really wanted performance they struggled to have something to compete with Intel. Also some of the features such as GPU built in to CPU are just of no interest to me as it will be in a full size gaming tower with dedicated graphics card, not a small discrete HTPC.


Still the same Radeon R9 290X. Was holding out for Vega before upgrading GPU, got a bad feeling I'm gonna be disappointed but we'll see...
Gkains45 m ago

Not a particularly helpful suggestion, but you've broken the number one …Not a particularly helpful suggestion, but you've broken the number one rule of buying PC parts:after buying something, don't look at prices for at least 2-3 months!

but i always check hot deals i should stay away
priceyrice

Thanks for your detailed reply, it's most useful. TBH, not really sure … Thanks for your detailed reply, it's most useful. TBH, not really sure whether it's worth upgrading at the moment, as you mention any performance upgrade will be minimal and my processor does not seem to bottle neck any VR games, I am more just thinking of future proofing, probably better just to wait!



Your CPU is far from bottlenecking. There is absolutely zero need to upgrade the cpu especially just to play VR games. It would just be a waste of money.

priceyrice

Thanks for the reply, I am in agreement, the performance upgrade will be … Thanks for the reply, I am in agreement, the performance upgrade will be minimal with current chips (without spending a fortune) and my VR performance is not affected and I have a GTX 1080, I just have issues when I see a good HUK deal!



As hard as it is, try to resist.

What's the rest of your specs? Perhaps the money would be better spent upgrading something else.
Gkains11 h, 6 m ago

All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked. To overclock you just need a minimum of a …All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked. To overclock you just need a minimum of a B350 motherboard (so no A320 boards).Having said, that unless you do a lot of multi-tasking of play BF1 multiplayer all the time, there's little point upgrading from a i7-7700K. Buying a new system now is a totally different story as for the price of R5 1600 + B350 ~£250) you'd only get a non-K i5 on the Intel side. For the i5-7600K + Z270 mobo + cooler (AMD include a good cooler with this R5 1600 whereas Intel no longer do for 'K' CPUs), you are talking about £325. A difference which is enough to be able to buy better RAM or budget a better CPU.


Link your recommended b350 mobo for 65 quid that is 'good'.

I call complete BS on a 65 quid mobo that is *good*.

AMD Ryzen depend on a GOOD mobo, big time. You can't skimp.
K1LLER_HORNET

Your CPU is far from bottlenecking. There is absolutely zero need to … Your CPU is far from bottlenecking. There is absolutely zero need to upgrade the cpu especially just to play VR games. It would just be a waste of money. As hard as it is, try to resist.What's the rest of your specs? Perhaps the money would be better spent upgrading something else.



+1 on the resist call.
at this point its more a "slightly to the side and possibly just a little upgrade"
replacing your mobo and your cpu for a very tiny possible upgrade (especially as most games don't properly support high numbers of cores) per core speed is often under valued. if you were to do an upgrade 6700k would be again a very modest performance boost.

Wait and buy something when intel or amd comes up with a sensible and definitive upgrade, by sensible I mean not the £1000+ range like enthusiast cpus or as they should be known gotchasuckersmoney cpus.
Same cost price on Overclockers too.
Nate1492

Link your recommended b350 mobo for 65 quid that is 'good'.I call … Link your recommended b350 mobo for 65 quid that is 'good'.I call complete BS on a 65 quid mobo that is *good*.AMD Ryzen depend on a GOOD mobo, big time. You can't skimp.



Ryzen doesn't need a high end board, a 'good' board (whatever that is) is a requirement of any platform. You can easily get a 'good' board for £65~ of B350/mATX (or ATX) size:

https://msi-promotions.com/gb/en/pages/summercashback/qualifying ?

https://m.cclonline.com/product/232913/B350-PC-MATE/Motherboards/MSI-B350-PC-MATE-Socket-AM4-ATX-Motherboard/MBD2164/

https://m.cclonline.com/product/228868/B350M-GAMING-PRO/Motherboards/MSI-B350M-GAMING-PRO-Motherboard-AMD-RYZEN-AM4-AMD-B350-M-ATX-Realtek-Gigabit-LAN-DDR4/MBD2128/

https://m.cclonline.com/product/235953/B350M-PRO-VDH/Motherboards/MSI-B350M-PRO-VDH-AMD-Socket-AM4-Micro-ATX-Motherboard/MBD2206/

Per usual, speculating about a platform you know nothing about.

Any of those boards will be capable, and as for Ryzen, it's the recommended choice.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

Edited by: "The_Hoff" 8th Jul 2017
BARGAIN !!! Have some heat
creeping up , now 91.47
magpie36

creeping up , now 91.47



Still £185.99 at Scan, but P&P to factor, unless you're buying other stuff:

scan.co.uk/pro…ail
The_Hoff13 m ago

Still £185.99 at Scan, but P&P to factor, unless you're buying other …Still £185.99 at Scan, but P&P to factor, unless you're buying other stuff:https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-5-1600-s-am4-six-core-12-thread-34ghz-36ghz-turbo-16mb-cache-65w-cpu-retail



Shame Scan don't know the specs of what they're selling! (1600 base clock is 3.2, not 3.4)
Getting more and more attractive to upgrade from my i7 920 and GTX770 combo. Just need the money!
TehJumpingJawa

Shame Scan don't know the specs of what they're selling! (1600 base clock … Shame Scan don't know the specs of what they're selling! (1600 base clock is 3.2, not 3.4)



Indeed, though anybody running their Ryzen stock needs to be asked why.
The 6 cores are already decent at stock. You get some automatic boosts to go with it at stock. In simplest terms.
Bargain! You might even be able to pair it with a nice Vega cad soon.

The Tech Reports did some excellent tests on the ryzen cpu's when they launched.

techreport.com/rev…one

techreport.com/rev…two



ElGofre7th Jul

The i7s will still outperform Ryzen series chips in single threaded tasks, …The i7s will still outperform Ryzen series chips in single threaded tasks, but they'll be equal in the sense that neither a 7700K or 1600 will bottleneck a high end GPU for anything less than 4K gaming, and for multithreaded workloads the 1600 can be considered equivalent to the i7 line. So in this sense yeah, you can pick up a 1600 and overclock-compatible B350 motherboard for considerably less than the price of a 7700K alone.




For gaming the main difference will be at high high frame rates at lower resolutions e.g. 1080p@144hz. At 4k the graphics card is far more likely to bottleneck the system than the CPU. If you are gaming at 60hz I doubt you'd see real world difference between the two. The 7700k is still the king for emulation of newer consoles though.





Zen19847th Jul

For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I …For what it's worth, I had the legendary i5 2500k, oc @ 4.3GHz which I reluctantly upgraded to a Ryzen 5 1600 a couple months ago. I say reluctantly because I was worried I wouldn't notice a big difference. I was wrong. The Ryzen is cooler and quieter, running on stock heatsink and fan. It overclocked to 3.8GHz quite happily without getting much hotter, but tbh, running it at stock speeds it still blows my old i5 out the water. I really wasn't expecting such pronounced performance gains in games. Overall frame rates only gone up by maybe 10-20% but what's really nice is that there are no frequent dips in frame rates now I.e. no stuttering which I used to get fairly regularly at busy points in a variety of recent games. (Typically running very high/ultra @ 1080p/144Hz on an R9 290X)Absolutely no regrets and glad to finally be back on AMD after them having no answer to Intel since my first Core2Duo which replaced an Athlon 900MHz single core :{Can't comment on VR though.


I struggle to believe you gained 20% frame rate from upgrading your 2500k to ryzen 1600. The 250pk does not bottleneck a gpu so either your making this up or you've upgraded other parts too.
Only 3-4 quid more now. Yeah if someone upgraded a 2500k model it's likely they upgraded a raft of other items too including memory, motherboard and maybe a SSD drive? Remember also the 2500k chip did not have 12 threads like the Ryzen chip. You just got 4 cores. So 10-20% in places is very easily possible. Of course the Ryzen chip won't OC much past 3.8-4ghz. Not without dangerous voltage settings.

From reviews I have read it suggests the IPC of intel latest chips is still 9-10% faster than Ryzen. Where Ryzen wins is cores/threads and value for money. The tweaks with faster ram are also starting to improve performance. Ryzen loves faster ram. Same for some of the games being tweaked to run with Ryzen.

I still use an old Core 2 duo. e6600. I think my ram speed is 400hz? Still pondering an upgrade here. I am always waiting for the next thing. Even though this is 10 years old it still does the basics pretty well. Although I would struggle with video editing and modern games. Guessing this Ryzen chip should be hugely faster than this?

So are people here against water cooling? Or is the stock cooler fine? How much would you really spend for a average gaming system? £800? Assuming 16gb ram (100), CPU (190), MB (120) and a decent power supply (80). Case (80) Graphics (200) Recycle other parts such as SSD and HD. Ideally MB should have 4 ram slots.

Problem is I am always waiting for next big thing, Such as Ryzen 2 and vega to see impact on market. Also not sure how serious a gamer I really am.

Also no point in a decent graphics if you don't have a hertz screen above. 60hz screen here. Albeit some say you can't tell difference with 120hz screen. Hmmm.


Edited by: "gummby" 15th Jul 2017
Post a comment

Deal posting newbie! This is The_Tiggy first deal post. Help out by leaving a posting tip or just to show your appreciation for their contribution.

Avatar
@
    Text