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AMD Ryzen 1700X 3.8GHz £368.99 @ Amazon
AMD Ryzen 1700X 3.8GHz £368.99 @ Amazon

AMD Ryzen 1700X 3.8GHz £368.99 @ Amazon

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Very good for price - Will OC to 3.9GHz on all cores fairly easily with decent mobo. Very good value especially for highly threaded tasks such as encoding and 3D rendering

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only 100mhz overclock
U canna be serious man

Original Poster

floppydesk

only 100mhz overclock U canna be serious man


That 3.8GHz is on 1 core boost, it usually hangs around 3.5GHz on all cores without OC
Edited by: "Trefonix" 9th Mar

Isn't the 1700, non X, considered the best R7, less power, runs cooler and still overclocks.

Think it also comes with a stock cooler?
Edited by: "powerbrick" 10th Mar

If you use Flubit you can get the standard 1700 65W Ryzen for £295 Inc (RRP £319). Don't forget Topcashback of 1.1% as well.

nemesiz

If you use Flubit you can get the standard 1700 65W Ryzen for £295 Inc … If you use Flubit you can get the standard 1700 65W Ryzen for £295 Inc (RRP £319). Don't forget Topcashback of 1.1% as well.



​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no receipt for warranty

think ill stick with my i5 6600

MarcoLoves360

​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no r … ​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no receipt for warranty



pay on credit card and you're covered either way

have we got passmark etc yet? my xeon e5620 is about 5000 1

9% off with flubit makes it £334.49.

If your just a gaming I'll advise waiting for Ryzen 5 if not kabylake per core performance is too much. If abit of both then this hands down. I'm saving up !


to be honest all the RYZEN CPU are amazing but for gaming you can get better but you'll be paying another 300-500 so just if you want the top and money no object then don't get a RYZEN but if you want the top but have a budget then RYZEN is the one

got a 1700 for £311, but no mobo yet... out of stock everywhere. I think I'm just return and get this one.

got a 1700 for £311, but no mobo yet... out of stock everywhere. I think … got a 1700 for £311, but no mobo yet... out of stock everywhere. I think I'm just return and get this one



If you're after B350 Chipset AM4 motherboards try AWD-IT, Lambdatek, and Novatech.

Edited by: "nemesiz" 9th Mar

gemignani

got a 1700 for £311, but no mobo yet... out of stock everywhere. I think … got a 1700 for £311, but no mobo yet... out of stock everywhere. I think I'm just return and get this one.


overclockers uk have the 3 different msi mobo's and the msi tomahawk, this board can overclock quite well..

MarcoLoves360

​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no r … ​i wouldn't trust flubit for something expensive no tracking and no receipt for warranty




If you email Flubit and request an invoice they will send email you one.

There's this US vendor called Silicon Lottery (siliconlottery.com) who sell pre-binned parts. Herea are some of their stats:
Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V
Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V
Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V
Note: Their test setup used the Realbench stress test for 1 hour on an Asus Crosshair VI, cooled by a Corsair H105 with 2 X 8GB of 2400MHz CL15 RAM.
Taken from Reddit:
reddit.com/r/A…cs/

So there is some differences between 1700 and 1700X but I still think the 1700 is the better buy. Would love if someone did one of these clock and volts charts with wattage (doesn't have to be at the mains, even HWiNFO's reading of package would be of interest).
Edited by: "Gkains" 9th Mar

Would be nice if there were actually any boards around! I got my 1800X on the 4th, but my pre-ordered Gaming 5 is nowhere to be seen...

TacticalTimbo

Would be nice if there were actually any boards around! I got my 1800X on … Would be nice if there were actually any boards around! I got my 1800X on the 4th, but my pre-ordered Gaming 5 is nowhere to be seen...



Cancelled my Gaming 5 from And earlier today, their shipment will arrive Thursday at the earliest, but keeps slipping.

Ordered an Asrock Taichi from Scan instead, they apparently arrive tomorrow, 30 units and they have 20 pre-orders.

Sick of waiting...

1700 is where the smart money is at.

Great price, same on SCAN. Although considering getting through i7 7700k 4.2. Main use will be photoshop & lightroom and never know gaming maybe! Seem to both have their + & -?

Original Poster

mcgill322

Great price, same on SCAN. Although considering getting through i7 7700k … Great price, same on SCAN. Although considering getting through i7 7700k 4.2. Main use will be photoshop & lightroom and never know gaming maybe! Seem to both have their + & -?


If you don't game the Ryzen CPU is almost definitely the better choice. The Ryzen CPU has many more threads making it a much more powerful CPU overall, which is especially good if you plan to keep your system for longer. Not too long ago people bashed quad cores and said to buy dual cores instead because of the higher clocks but look what happened... the industry moved on.
Edited by: "Trefonix" 9th Mar

1700 available for just under 304 from LaptopsDirect

Trefonix

If you don't game the Ryzen CPU is almost definitely the better choice. … If you don't game the Ryzen CPU is almost definitely the better choice. The Ryzen CPU has many more threads making it a much more powerful CPU overall, which is especially good if you plan to keep your system for longer. Not too long ago people bashed quad cores and said to buy dual cores instead because of the higher clocks but look what happened... the industry moved on.



And so did people? They bought the Q9xxx series after owning a c2d for a while whilst others overclocked the heck out of the e8xxx series. Nothing wrong with both choices as at the time there wasn't much of a benefit to more cores.

Original Poster

Glix

And so did people? They bought the Q9xxx series after owning a c2d for a … And so did people? They bought the Q9xxx series after owning a c2d for a while whilst others overclocked the heck out of the e8xxx series. Nothing wrong with both choices as at the time there wasn't much of a benefit to more cores.


I'm talking 2007-2008 here, with the Q6600 etc. It can still handle modern games, however a core 2 duo would struggle. Very future-proof CPU there.

mcgill322

Great price, same on SCAN. Although considering getting through i7 7700k … Great price, same on SCAN. Although considering getting through i7 7700k 4.2. Main use will be photoshop & lightroom and never know gaming maybe! Seem to both have their + & -?



pugetsystems.com/lab…07/

7700K wins in Photoshop against this. Obviously it batters this for gaming as well.

vulcanproject

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/7700K wins in Photoshop against this. Obviously it batters this for gaming as well.


AMD Always Making Duds

Original Poster

vulcanproject

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/7700K wins in Photoshop against this. Obviously it batters this for gaming as well.


My point is that given 6 months this CPU will be better optimised and will probably leapfrog the 7700K. The raw power is there - developers need to just utilise it

Edited by: "Trefonix" 9th Mar

Gkains

There's this US vendor called Silicon Lottery (siliconlottery.com) who … There's this US vendor called Silicon Lottery (siliconlottery.com) who sell pre-binned parts. Herea are some of their stats:Ryzen 7 170093% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440VRyzen 7 1700X100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424VRyzen 7 1800X100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440VNote: Their test setup used the Realbench stress test for 1 hour on an Asus Crosshair VI, cooled by a Corsair H105 with 2 X 8GB of 2400MHz CL15 RAM.Taken from Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xybp7/silicon_lottery_ryzen_overclock_statistics/So there is some differences between 1700 and 1700X but I still think the 1700 is the better buy. Would love if someone did one of these clock and volts charts with wattage (doesn't have to be at the mains, even HWiNFO's reading of package would be of interest).



Its looking as if they are lightly binned but also having limits on oc. That will change with newer stepping

"The raw power is there - developers need to just utilise it"

Multi core CPU's have been around for years and (for the most part) developers don't take advantage of the power available. A CPU coming out with even more cores isn't suddenly going to change this. If using Cinebench is your thing then buy Ryzen and move to that ecosystem. If it's not, stick with Intel.

tempt

AMD Always Making Duds



More like crap Adobe multi threading:

pugetsystems.com/lab…25/
Edited by: "Minstadave" 9th Mar

Talking of binning, OCUK do a 5GHz guaranteed i7-7700 for under £500. They also replace the internal thermal compound.

It removes the risk and it'll blow the socks off this wave of AMDs for practically everything most people use their computers for.

vulcanproject

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/7700K wins in Photoshop against this. Obviously it batters this for gaming as well.



ps is lightly threaded (except for the 3d stuff) and also uses gpu acceleration. PS bench marking is kinda dumb if you actually have used ps and realise its not cpu intensive !

Trefonix

My point is that given 6 months this CPU will be better optimised and … My point is that given 6 months this CPU will be better optimised and will probably leapfrog the 7700K. The raw power is there - developers need to just utilise it



Probably not. Photoshop is not heavily threaded and until most people have more than 4 cores and 8 threads then most software isn't going to use more than 4 cores and 8 threads. If you are using it for Photoshop and Lightroom and a bit of gaming a faster Intel quad easily wins.

OliWarner

Talking of binning, OCUK do a 5GHz guaranteed i7-7700 for under £500. … Talking of binning, OCUK do a 5GHz guaranteed i7-7700 for under £500. They also replace the internal thermal compound.It removes the risk and it'll blow the socks off this wave of AMDs for practically everything most people use their computers for.



To put it another way, a £300 1700 putting out 65W will blow the socks off a delidded, overclocked, binned 7700K costing nearly twice as much in any heavily multithreaded workload. It'll beat many of the X99 chips costing even more.

Will the 7700K be better for gaming - yup. Will Ryzen game well - yup, AMD have just made different compromises.

The 1700 looks like a total bargain. If I hadn't just bought a cheap 5820K setup I'd be moving to Ryzen and not a 7700K.


Edited by: "Minstadave" 9th Mar

game-debate.com/new…nch

Ryzen 2 due early 2018. Ryzen 3 early 2019. Claims all will use AM4 socket. Talking 5-15% jump on Ryzen 2.All guess work really. 2nd generation will likely improve on Zen. So expect Intel and AMD to keep fighting it out here for next 2 years.

It's the old how long do you hold off upgrading? Always something else to wait for. 2nd/3rd generation should overclock better? 4ghz is not bad considering 6-12 months back they were worried about hitting 3-3.2ghz.

Trefonix

I'm talking 2007-2008 here, with the Q6600 etc. It can still handle … I'm talking 2007-2008 here, with the Q6600 etc. It can still handle modern games, however a core 2 duo would struggle. Very future-proof CPU there.



A Q6600 cannot handle modern games, it is far too slow. Any modern dual core annihilates it.

Buying more slower cores is only useful if you actually need more cores. Everyone else is better off with fewer faster ones. Within 5-6 years you usually end up with a chip with half the cores winning against the old one so you upgrade then anyway.

vulcanproject

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/7700K wins in Photoshop against this. Obviously it batters this for gaming as well.



Yes, saw those benches. The 6850K is 3.6/4.0 while 6900K is 3.5/4.0 so it looks like a lot of tasks don't scale. I guess taking only the Broadwell-E (and ignoring Skylake/Kabylake as it has a different IPC) it should be easy to see what threads well.
[img]pugetsystems.com/pic…php?id=41966&width=701[/img]

So HDR Creation seems to not be well-threaded as the 6850K is faster than the 6900K (but it uses more than 1 core or they'd both be on their 1C boost of 4.0GHz).

Photomerge is a bit more threaded, as the 6900K is faster, same for General Actions.

I think the Adobe code is generally not that well threaded despite them doing this for decades (I remember in the 1990s seeing the £1000s DSP NuBus accelerator boards for 68K Macs).

But the other question is what about third-party plugins? Anyone using a specific, slow Photoshop plugin would be well advised to try and find someone who has benched it.

I personally think that for workstation usage the 4C/8T i7-7700K will eventually be limited, although especially with a modest overclock (I would value stability for productive uses and that CPU has no ECC) it should be reasonably fast. So I'd want at least 6+ cores. For just the shown Photoshop results, the 6800K might be a good choice and the CPU is about the same price as the Ryzen 7 1700X but LGA2011v3 boards are more expensive and for other tasks it will be slower.

personally think amd have screwed up the launch of these chips bigtime, only a tiny percent of the market will pay this sort of money for "non optimised " kit they should of lauynched the new am4 + quadcores to match [email protected] £300 all in, get people buzzed, too many dissapointed folk out there bitten by bulldoze etc a big splash was needed and those in charge of larger corporate purchases won't waste time when intel have held the market for soo long.

gummby

http://www.game-debate.com/news/22457/amd-zen-2-pinnacle-ridge-ryzen-successor-on-target-for-early-2018-launchRyzen 2 due early 2018. Ryzen 3 early 2019. Claims all will use AM4 socket. Talking 5-15% jump on Ryzen 2.All guess work really. 2nd generation will likely improve on Zen. So expect Intel and AMD to keep fighting it out here for next 2 years. It's the old how long do you hold off upgrading? Always something else to wait for. 2nd/3rd generation should overclock better? 4ghz is not bad considering 6-12 months back they were worried about hitting 3-3.2ghz.



They should some easy fixes and improvements for Ryzen 2 informed from the engineering samples they got back over the last 6-12 months and AMD actually have pretty good record at iterative improvements. For example Phenom vs Phenom was a big jump, and especially Bulldozer vs Piledriver and Excavator (at which stage Zen was close to so they never released at FX desktop part). And for the 'Dozer designs their resource allocation and budget would not have been that high, whereas Zen is very important to them.

All CPU designs are about compromises as even Intel with their extra deep pockets cannot include everything at once. The biggest compromise with Ryzen (Zen1) seems the speed of the CCX interconnect which has hurting their performance in Windows (10 at least, Win7 seems better) as Windows' scheduler seems to love moving threads between cores. A higher bandwidth interconnect should be easy for Zen2 (although the current limit was probably not designed because of the 2 CCX version like Ryzen 7, but maybe thinking ahead how making it wider would make Naples with 8 CCXs too big).
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