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AMD Ryzen 1700X CPU - £341 from Amazon.fr
AMD Ryzen 1700X CPU - £341  from Amazon.fr

AMD Ryzen 1700X CPU - £341 from Amazon.fr

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Ryzen CPU's seem to be in short supply, so why not grab one and get a bargain price too?

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Paid for in € with a fee free card, including shipping it comes in at €430.82, which translates to £371-373 depending on the card used, and exchange rate when you check out.

Edit: Now down to only €399! (€405.47 inc shipping) which is about £353, which is a massive £20 saving from when this deal was posted orginally
2nd EDIT: Complete steal now if you want an X series chip for that extra chance to overclock higher, about £339!... Woooo
3rd EDIT: Now only €376.77 inc Shipping - which is £327!
4th EDIT: Now back up to £341, but still not a half bad deal.

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Slightly cheaper here

Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go home.
Ryzen was released too early need another month for motherboard manufacturers to perfect their BIOS's and for and to release windows chipset drivers.

powerbrick

Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go … Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go home. Ryzen was released too early need another month for motherboard manufacturers to perfect their BIOS's and for and to release windows chipset drivers.



Can you clarify? I know about the issue with memory, but that can be fixed with a BIOS update, no?
No windows drivers? So it only works on Linux or something?
Well I can't say much about that. Intel IPC is still higher.

rev6

Can you clarify? I know about the issue with memory, but that can be … Can you clarify? I know about the issue with memory, but that can be fixed with a BIOS update, no?No windows drivers? So it only works on Linux or something?Well I can't say much about that. Intel IPC is still higher.



The windows driver would be a fix to the thread priority / scheduler in SMT cases.

Who knows if that will actually improve things though.


Edited by: "Glix" 3rd Mar

its day one, give it some time as motherboard manufacturers etc didnt have allot of time with drivers and bios

almirh

its day one, give it some time as motherboard manufacturers etc didnt … its day one, give it some time as motherboard manufacturers etc didnt have allot of time with drivers and bios


Whose fault is that?

Original Poster

powerbrick

Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go … Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go home. Ryzen was released too early need another month for motherboard manufacturers to perfect their BIOS's and for and to release windows chipset drivers.



Can you give me the extra £600 for the 6900K then please?

Also I don't primarily use my computer for games, as many others don't, and once the SMT issue is sorted I am sure people like you will be still unhappy with something or other, and as the poster above said RAM issue is not an issue,as it has been resolved with a BIOS update from most vendors already.

powerbrick

Whose fault is that?



not saying its anyones fault but every company has day one faults, hell nvidia had the whole issue of 2gb oh no only 1.5gb available on there graphics cards but people turn a blind eye, Give it couple weeks to see how amd deal with this.

If amd was to shut down and not exist then everyone would be complaining about how intel and nvidia are not innovating or lowering prices, you cant win with people as they always want more

also what would you be more inclined on, something thats more than double the price and has been out for a while,or something that just came out and costs half the price with possible updates to improve performance

almirh

not saying its anyones fault but every company has day one faults, hell … not saying its anyones fault but every company has day one faults, hell nvidia had the whole issue of 2gb oh no only 1.5gb available on there graphics cards but people turn a blind eye, Give it couple weeks to see how amd deal with this.If amd was to shut down and not exist then everyone would be complaining about how intel and nvidia are not innovating or lowering prices, you cant win with people as they always want more


I am sure you meant 3GB but it did have 3GB just 512 of that was slower.

AMD would not shut down, someone would just buy them.

You've seen the game demos running on windows?

powerbrick

Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go … Slow memory, no windows drivers, poor gaming performance, go Intel or go home. Ryzen was released too early need another month for motherboard manufacturers to perfect their BIOS's and for and to release windows chipset drivers.


hitman007

You've seen the game demos running on windows?


Yes? Your point is.

powerbrick

Yes? Your point is.



​think his point is there are windows drivers if you've seen benchmarks on Windows

The R7 series is not for gaming (many cores running low clocks), price/performance wise this is great for servers/workstations that benefit from more than 8 threads.

Wait for the R5 1600 Series, 6 Core, 12 threads.

Cancelled mine this morning and my gigabyte gaming 5 after reading the reviews its not all that, major memory issues and compatibility not as fast as first thought overclocking basically non existent not to mention really hard to find a AIO or HSF to fit and intels i7 destroys it in games and overall a weak showing and for me a £1000 waste of money unless your using it for productivity not worth it, I will stick with my i5 haswell for now.

Check the cheaper AMD Ryzen R7 1700 vs i7-7700K (clocked at 5GHz):
youtube.com/wat…FVE

Uncommon.Sense

Can you give me the extra £600 for the 6900K then please? Also I don't … Can you give me the extra £600 for the 6900K then please? Also I don't primarily use my computer for games, as many others don't, and once the SMT issue is sorted I am sure people like you will be still unhappy with something or other, and as the poster above said RAM issue is not an issue,as it has been resolved with a BIOS update from most vendors already.



No its not ive read that if your using 2666mhz ram best stick to 2 slots and to use 4 slots stick with 2400mhz thats hardly fixed when i cancelled my order this morning i also had to return 32gb of Ballistix Elite 2666mhz that i scored cheap at £103 from Amazon as id read the horror stories about the weak memory controller and no bios update will fix that. Im no hater id preordered and had some of the parts already bought ready im now stuck with a 750w Coolermaster PSU aswell, i really wanted to love this CPU but i think im going to wait until either Zen2 or see what intels response will be.

I was shocked about Linus not being able to get his board to post with any memory above 2666mhz, my 3600mhz would be useless.

FlappyPappy

I was shocked about Linus not being able to get his board to post with … I was shocked about Linus not being able to get his board to post with any memory above 2666mhz, my 3600mhz would be useless.


Ryzen - Return of the Jedi
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh588/chewasterisk/RYZEN/Rzen%201700%20Idle%20temps%20OC_zps070dpwx8.jpg
Edited by: "ShroomHeadToad" 3rd Mar

Ryzen falls flat even in productivity applications such as Solidworks and Photoshop.

ShroomHeadToad

The R7 series is not for gaming (many cores running low clocks), … The R7 series is not for gaming (many cores running low clocks), price/performance wise this is great for servers/workstations that benefit from more than 8 threads.Wait for the R5 1600 Series, 6 Core, 12 threads.



Hoping Linus does a 2 gaming machine 1 tower build with a Ryzen 7. With a couple of GTX1060's or RX480's. Then you get cheap costs, good performance and 16 threads for workloads when not gaming.

Thank you. That's exactly what I was saying.

BettySwollocks098

​think his point is there are windows drivers if you've seen benchmarks o … ​think his point is there are windows drivers if you've seen benchmarks on Windows


tempt

Ryzen falls flat even in productivity applications such as Solidworks and … Ryzen falls flat even in productivity applications such as Solidworks and Photoshop.


Notice the far more expensive higher core count Intel chips also bench lower than the quadcore i7-7700K, benchmarks that favour higher clocks than more cores.
http://oi63.tinypic.com/120o4qo.jpg

The only thing that falls flat are the bottom 3 high cost Intel chips on the above graph.

Edited by: "ShroomHeadToad" 3rd Mar

ShroomHeadToad

Notice the far more expensive higher core count Intel chips also bench … Notice the far more expensive higher core count Intel chips also bench lower than the quadcore i7-7700K, benchmarks that favour higher clocks than more cores.



Solidworks is pretty single threaded. Where is the chart where they test 8 simultaneous renders!?
Besides most uses will render using the GPU.

Original Poster

I find it truly hilarious that the thread I posted last week (HERE ) for the Intel 7600K at circa £200 went down to negative 80, just before the launch, now every body is hating again on AMD, and praising Intel, I meant WTH?

Uncommon.Sense

I find it truly hilarious that the thread I posted last week (HERE ) for … I find it truly hilarious that the thread I posted last week (HERE ) for the Intel 7600K at circa £200 went down to negative 80, just before the launch, now every body is hating again on AMD, and praising Intel, I meant WTH?


They expect a uber CPU that will outperform BOTH a £1000+ chip at productivity, and a i7-7700K at gaming, for only £200!!!!

FlappyPappy

I was shocked about Linus not being able to get his board to post with … I was shocked about Linus not being able to get his board to post with any memory above 2666mhz, my 3600mhz would be useless.


Er, no. And I think that's the wrong way to thing about it too.
At the end of the day performance is all that matters. So while your 3600 kit could be under-utitliesed (but isn't faster memory generally able to run a lower frequency but with tight/better timings?), high speed DDR4 kits have only really made sense very recently. LGA2011 was not able to go very high with DDR4, nor was Skylake as the IMC was not up to it (while for Kabylake it does seem to have made a difference, one of the few actual improvements in Kabylake vs Skylake).

Now, for gaming Ryzen doesn't do that well*, but applications it does very well against Broadwell-E which is on far more expensive platform and uses quad-channel RAM.

*there is one thing which reviewers never do: run on anything other than a clean install. With nothing running in the background; no antivirus, indexing, video capture and so on. Whereas most people do have stuff going on in the background.

This one youtube reviewer benched (only) BF1 but ran it at max settings with Shadowplay on:
youtube.com/wat…nzg
https://i.imgur.com/q8ibjVj.png
The minimum was better on the Ryzen than on the Kabylake, plus the Ryzen had over twice the mins of the FX-8300. Which is not totally unexpected as it is for min FPS that the extra cores should help the most.

The Ryzen to buy is the 1700 non-X though as it's a binned 65W part, overclocks to the same speed as the 1700X and 1800X while still using way less power and costs about the same as the i7-7700K. For now, it makes sense to disable SMT in the BIOS though until the Windows scheduler gets updated etc.

ShroomHeadToad

They expect a uber CPU that will outperform BOTH a £1000+ chip at … They expect a uber CPU that will outperform BOTH a £1000+ chip at productivity, and a i7-7700K at gaming, for only £100!!!!


There fixed that for you!

AMD will never be on par with INTEL...not in a million years just like their GPU's will never be on the same levels as nvidia's.

It will be interesting to see how the AMD 1700 stacks up. I've also heard that it could be the best bang for your buck.

Gkains

Er, no. And I think that's the wrong way to thing about it too.At the end … Er, no. And I think that's the wrong way to thing about it too.At the end of the day performance is all that matters. So while your 3600 kit could be under-utitliesed (but isn't faster memory generally able to run a lower frequency but with tight/better timings?), high speed DDR4 kits have only really made sense very recently. LGA2011 was not able to go very high with DDR4, nor was Skylake as the IMC was not up to it (while for Kabylake it does seem to have made a difference, one of the few actual improvements in Kabylake vs Skylake).Now, for gaming Ryzen doesn't do that well*, but applications it does very well against Broadwell-E which is on far more expensive platform and uses quad-channel RAM.*there is one thing which reviewers never do: run on anything other than a clean install. With nothing running in the background; no antivirus, indexing, video capture and so on. Whereas most people do have stuff going on in the background. This one youtube reviewer benched (only) BF1 but ran it at max settings with Shadowplay on:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sciuiEcrnzgThe minimum was better on the Ryzen than on the Kabylake, plus the Ryzen had over twice the mins of the FX-8300. Which is not totally unexpected as it is for min FPS that the extra cores should help the most.The Ryzen to buy is the 1700 non-X though as it's a binned 65W part, overclocks to the same speed as the 1700X and 1800X while still using way less power and costs about the same as the i7-7700K. For now, it makes sense to disable SMT in the BIOS though until the Windows scheduler gets updated etc.


there seems to be a problem with core hopping, windows scheduler and bios issues (with ram) all fixable with software updates ...

amd have proved that it can use ddr4 3400. Part of the "problem" with ryzen is that its got two ccx's which you can argue that they are two dies next to each other, so a thread that hops between ccx with cause penalties in performance and this is why the windows scheduler will be updated (again)

Zen die = 1 x ccx die
Zeppin = 2 x ccs dies
naples = 4 x zeppins

Anyhoo breath it will be ok and the performance is there..

BigP50000

AMD will never be on par with INTEL...not in a million years just like … AMD will never be on par with INTEL...not in a million years just like their GPU's will never be on the same levels as nvidia's.


There have been times where AMD/ATI were ahead of Intel/Nvidia.

notos

There have been times where AMD/ATI were ahead of Intel/Nvidia.




in the price range yes probably

Original Poster

BigP50000

in the price range yes probably



That actually makes no sense at all...

Uncommon.Sense

That actually makes no sense at all...




do you understand english?

oh i forgot you made this thread so you are obviously a hardcore "AMD fanboy" that will defend jerry sanders own pile of dunk and sleep with it for extra protection if you had to ....never mind you.

BigP50000

AMD will never be on par with INTEL...not in a million years just like … AMD will never be on par with INTEL...not in a million years just like their GPU's will never be on the same levels as nvidia's.



You do realise amd used to be on top right? They had the 1st 1GHz processor. Yes they fell behind in recent years but that isn't 100% their fault. Intel pulled some dirty tricks which only recently came to light. Look at intel getting fined billions for the illegal deals they arranged to cripple amd. How narrow minded and fanboy of you to say they will never be as good as intel when in the past they have been better and you can't predict the future. I'm a gamer and of course I'm using an intel cpu but that doesn't mean I think the sun shines out their ****. I will be buying an 1800X soon as I believe it's the foundation for a good platform and will only get better (launch issues are common for a new architecture). It doesn't help that their version of hyper threading isn't coded to be utilised in any modern games, this will change with game patches and bios updates. Watch this space and look again in 6 months. It's comparable to the 6900k @ half the price. I see you popping up with stupid comments on numerous tech threads - do your research. Also even if you are an intel boy through and through there is no denying intel have gotten complacent and very lazy, at the very least Ryzen will force intel to innovate again after the flop that was Kaby lake. Intel have been pushing the same architecture for years because nothing was even close. Amd are hot on their heels and I say good for them! Competition drives innovation.
Edited by: "tomwoodhouse" 3rd Mar

Original Poster

BigP50000

oh i forgot you made this thread so you are obviously a hardcore "AMD … oh i forgot you made this thread so you are obviously a hardcore "AMD fanboy" that will defend jerry sanders own pile of dunk and sleep with it for extra protection if you had to ....never mind you.



ROFL you've gotta love the Internet's, do you feel like a big clever human because you can attempt to insult someone from behind your screen?

Athlon, Athlon FX, Athlon 64, Opteron 64, etc...
ATI 9700 Pro, ATI 9800 Pro, X1900XT, 3870 X2, 4870/4870 X2, 5970 etc.

Edited by: "Uncommon.Sense" 3rd Mar

Anyone OC'ing get a 1700 instead of X and save the £. Flog the Wraith Spire and get some £ back.The 1700 is OC'ing very close to 1700X/1800X and not worth the spend for X processor for 0.1-0.3GHz extra.

Ryzen is an excellent production CPU, but it's poor for gaming. There's contention with memory latency and optimization, however the truth is as it stands Ryzen doesn't cut it for gaming, unless there's a realistic patch for the issues, if you're gaming and streaming it's effective. I can see from the reviews even though they're negative that the cores are fast so something is not right, maybe it's not that fixable we'll see. The problem is AMD have just done a Skoda and even if they fix the issues, people will think Skoda even though Skoda is now good.
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