AMD Ryzen 3 1200 AM4 Retail Boxed Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler £98.48 inc. vat and shipping @ ebuyer.com
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AMD Ryzen 3 1200 AM4 Retail Boxed Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler £98.48 inc. vat and shipping @ ebuyer.com

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Found 30th Jul 2017
I saw the new Ryzen 3 1200 selling on eBay for £111.60, frowned as it had been reviewed at £105, then saw it was the same on Amazon, then found ebuyer bettered both, breaking the £100 price barrier. The also new Ryzen 3 1300x reviews better than the 1200 for around £30 more, if you don't want to overclock or the motherboard you chose doesn't support overclocking, but the 1200 can be overclocked to a similar level and overclocked a bit even with the included fairly-quiet Wraith cooler.

Reviews and benchmarks are all over the place, so to speak, with some saying it betters or comes close to the much more expensive i5 7400 in some games depending on which memory and motherboard you partner both with, others disagreeing with that and saying it makes more sense to compare it with Intel's dual core hyperthreaded i3 7100 and still others saying if purely gaming go for the dual core but still hyper threaded Pentium G4560, though with the G4560 being near unavailable at the moment and considerably more expensive than it was, the G4600 seems a better choice compared to it, as it has better integrated graphics than the otherwise very slightly slower G4560. Neither Ryzen CPU has integrated graphics.

Intel's strength remains its strong single core performance and a lot of programs and games benefit from that, whereas in some productivity programs and games, the Ryzen's multicores show their strength and the reasonably low power draw of the R3 1200 gets a lot of mentions. In other words, if on a budget, your choice comes down to how you want to use your computer. The Ryzen part is arguably the best all rounder for a budget multi purpose build, especially if you want to take advantage of overclocking. I hope I have summarised the reviews fairly well, I am sure others will chime in. At the time of writing, I am unaware of any plans from Intel to cut prices.

Getting back on deal topic, £98.48 is the cheapest I have been able to find it.
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Original Poster
Thorough but not over-long benchmark comparison on Hardware Unboxed

youtube.com/wat…GZI

Surprisingly short review from Tom Logan on OC3D TV

youtube.com/wat…79s
Make sure you buy fairly good memory, ideally in dual channel. Ryzen seems to really like dual channel for some reason.
Edited by: "ollie87" 30th Jul 2017
Are they any good? How does it compare to an i5 6500
Heat, still deciding on 1200 or 1600.

This is a good mobo deal i posted to go with this - future proof too ...

hotukdeals.com/dea…852
review of AMD Ryzen 3 1300X
lnik

they do mention the 1200 in the review
It's another nice sweet spot CPU, I'd still be taking a Pentium G4560 for a super budget pc but it's nice to have intermediary options between the £60-70 Pentium and the £150 R5 1400.
coventgamer

Are they any good? How does it compare to an i5 6500



Probably around equal or maybe even slightly better when overclocked. This is way better value for money though. If you have a GTX 1060 or an RX 480/580 and below this will do you nicely for the life of the card.
ElGofre

It's another nice sweet spot CPU, I'd still be taking a Pentium G4560 for … It's another nice sweet spot CPU, I'd still be taking a Pentium G4560 for a super budget pc but it's nice to have intermediary options between the £60-70 Pentium and the £150 R5 1400.


What about a 7350k, can be had for less than a hundred.
powerbrick

What about a 7350k, can be had for less than a hundred.



No it can't. Scan had it down at £100 but have no stock. They know with the launch of Ryzen 3 people will be looking at relevant processors. This jumps their store to the top of Google's search.
Thanks OP - another Ryzen is joining the family!
ollie87

Make you you buy fairly good memory, ideally in dual channel. Ryzen seems … Make you you buy fairly good memory, ideally in dual channel. Ryzen seems to really like dual channel for some reason.


Make you you what are you even saying? IQ under 30? /s
Might want to look at the last page of anandtech.com/sho…iew before you buy this.
Any good compared to i5 6200u?
imagineS

Any good compared to i5 6200u?



i5-6200U is used in some All in One Desktops, but generally it's not a desktop class CPU but a laptop CPU. The Ryzen 3 1200 smashes the crap out of it.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 30th Jul 2017
fishmaster

i5-6200U is used in some All in One Desktops, but generally it's not a … i5-6200U is used in some All in One Desktops, but generally it's not a desktop class CPU but a laptop CPU. The Ryzen 3 1200 smashes the crap out of it.



Not bad, but no point me upgrading?

I have a GIGABYTE Brix i5 (Skylake) which I use for Word, Web Browsing, Photoshop and Video editing. Which work perfectly with 8GB RAM, M.2 NVME Toshiba SSD.
been watching vids on this today, not getting one just cos I have an i7 but they do look great value for gaming if paired with an R580 or GTX1060, that kind of combo seems to be the sweet spot for bang for buck gaming right now - the 1050ti isn't strong enough tbh from what I've seen
Edited by: "sadbuttruee" 30th Jul 2017
powerbrick

What about a 7350k, can be had for less than a hundred.



It's at least £150 everywhere, if you saw it for £100 somewhere then it was most definitely a fluke.
Edited by: "ElGofre" 30th Jul 2017
Love the look of this but still scraping by with an i5 4460 think it's got another 12 months in it yet :-/ Heat added
I have the 1800x and must say these things are pretty incredible, both for the price point and performance, with the added benefit of using less power.

Threadripper will be coming out later this year, Intel have become complacent.
imagineS

Not bad, but no point me upgrading? I have a GIGABYTE Brix i5 (Skylake) … Not bad, but no point me upgrading? I have a GIGABYTE Brix i5 (Skylake) which I use for Word, Web Browsing, Photoshop and Video editing. Which work perfectly with 8GB RAM, M.2 NVME Toshiba SSD.


Ryzen's multicore performance runs rings around Intel in After Effects (and media encoder).
This renders the complete Intel i3 range obsolete. Overclock one and it's closer to an i5.
multicore is overrated for games for now, sure that will change soon. still, the 1200 seems like a budget monster, i'm trying to tell myself i'm not due an upgrade but my g3258 and 750TI seem to disagree

edit, started looking into what graphics card is best to pair with the 1200, no hope for me now
Edited by: "format" 30th Jul 2017
ElGofre

It's another nice sweet spot CPU, I'd still be taking a Pentium G4560 for … It's another nice sweet spot CPU, I'd still be taking a Pentium G4560 for a super budget pc but it's nice to have intermediary options between the £60-70 Pentium and the £150 R5 1400.



the ryzen 3 1200 path does open up the possibility of easy upgrade to ryzen 7 or ryzen 2
Cpubenchmark scores this at 7029 so for the price it's amazing performance.

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…029
I'd 100% recommend OC'ing this to 3.8/3.9GHz, the gains in gaming performance are amazing.
timohhhh8 h, 46 m ago

Make you you what are you even saying? IQ under 30? /s

​You're correct that it's written wrong, but if you yourself were at all inteligent then you would know that he meant to say "make sure you."
Comments like yours are silly, please stick to commenting on the item/deal in question and not making silly insults on people's grammar.
The FX8320 scores 8020 for the same price. I'm sure this must be quicker. Wouldn't read too much in to CPUbenchmark.
It's tests are also heavily bias towards Intel chips as its GPU test is very heavily bias to Nvidia. (Eg both gtx 780ti and 1060 are shown as 11% faster than rx580 - which is clearly not true in the real world).
Go for the 1600, so much better for a bit more.
bulletfoss45 m ago

Go for the 1600, so much better for a bit more.

​double the price
bulletfoss46 m ago

Go for the 1600, so much better for a bit more.


It's twice the price, hardly "a bit more".
If you are on a very strict budget, this 4core CPU is a great choice.
Would this be a reasonable upgrade from an overclocked i5 2500k (4.5Ghz)? I've also got a GTX1070.
Edited by: "takkischitt" 31st Jul 2017
takkischitt24 m ago

Would this be a reasonable upgrade from an overclocked i5 2500k (4.5Ghz)? …Would this be a reasonable upgrade from an overclocked i5 2500k (4.5Ghz)? I've also got a GTX1070.


It'd not be worth it at all. This will OC to 3.8-3.9 and reach just about the same performance I think - although it'll use less power.
How does this compare to a fx6300 over clocked to 4.1ghz? I'm thinking of getting a vr headset. Had a vive before and the cpu really seemed to struggle. If more power needed any recommendations? I have a GA-970A-DS3 motherboard which supports only am3/am3+. Guessing for anything better than what I have I'll need a new mobo?

Wanting it for mostly gaming so single core performance I would like to be good. Any advice appreciated.
The twin core intel options are very short sighted,as eventually they wont compete with the 1200 in games. (single thread will be less important than total resources)

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz
5400 cpu marks

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…029
7000 marks

overclocked; AMD Ryzen 3 1200 ; \x098,316 cpu marks
(passmarks o/c page, https://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html)
The FX 6300 o/c rolls in at 7350 O/C'D, so yes, the 1200 is a stronger gamer esp in games that like single thread power. Not really worth it, get the r5 1600, pulls 13000 marks.
Edited by: "joe_shmoe" 31st Jul 2017
imagineS

Not bad, but no point me upgrading? I have a GIGABYTE Brix i5 (Skylake) … Not bad, but no point me upgrading? I have a GIGABYTE Brix i5 (Skylake) which I use for Word, Web Browsing, Photoshop and Video editing. Which work perfectly with 8GB RAM, M.2 NVME Toshiba SSD.



first what i5 skylake do you have?

i would probably say its not worth upgrading to ryzen 3 from the skylake.

photoshop loves memory so i`d spend money on a memory upgrade.
Lahn5 h, 21 m ago

It's twice the price, hardly "a bit more".If you are on a very strict …It's twice the price, hardly "a bit more".If you are on a very strict budget, this 4core CPU is a great choice.

188 is not double
ws007

first what i5 skylake do you have? i would probably say its not worth … first what i5 skylake do you have? i would probably say its not worth upgrading to ryzen 3 from the skylake.photoshop loves memory so i`d spend money on a memory upgrade.



i5 6200u
ark.intel.com/pro…GHz
dan_lesser

The FX8320 scores 8020 for the same price. I'm sure this must be quicker. … The FX8320 scores 8020 for the same price. I'm sure this must be quicker. Wouldn't read too much in to CPUbenchmark. It's tests are also heavily bias towards Intel chips as its GPU test is very heavily bias to Nvidia. (Eg both gtx 780ti and 1060 are shown as 11% faster than rx580 - which is clearly not true in the real world).


The FX chip will show a good cpu score in passmark,purely because passmark cpu test evaluates total available resources,even if they are hardly if ever utilized.
The 'SINGLE thread rating should be noted as a 'SINGLE' single thread rating of 1500.
Its ok for mthreaded apps, but fx is b/s at windows.
Lastly the 'OVERCLOCK'.

techspot.com/rev…tml

"as we hit 15% over the maximum turbo boost and 44% over the base clock. However, as substantial as that may sound, it only produced 16% more performance in our application tests and 7% in our encoding and gaming benchmarks..
'When clocked at 4.6GHz, the FX-8320E used 63% more power on average in our application tests, 55% more when encoding and 27% more when gaming.'.
For **** all use except shagging out motherboard power phases.
The fx chips were a disaster. Even i3 chips **** all over them in general windows use and most games,not to mention power and heat.(tho battlefield was patched for it)
This is not the case with ryzen .. a ryzen r5 1600 o/c'ed is equal to a haswel i7 4770K @ 3.9 gig,but with 6 cores and 12 threads instead of 4/8.
If you can find any game an i7 4770k will struggle with at 3.9 gig we would of course be interested to here about it. With the ryzen 1600 chip we could play it and stream the results live,just for for a hoot.
Edited by: "joe_shmoe" 31st Jul 2017
dan_lesser

The FX8320 scores 8020 for the same price. I'm sure this must be quicker. … The FX8320 scores 8020 for the same price. I'm sure this must be quicker. Wouldn't read too much in to CPUbenchmark. It's tests are also heavily bias towards Intel chips as its GPU test is very heavily bias to Nvidia. (Eg both gtx 780ti and 1060 are shown as 11% faster than rx580 - which is clearly not true in the real world).


Just to point out to you, FX chips dominated this chart for years, despite being crap (dx 12 took a lot longer than envisaged)
You are sort of right about the cross comparison re gpu's tho.
Use THIS to get a reasonable performance comparison(
tomshardware.co.uk/gpu…tml
)
and then use this (
videocardbenchmark.net/gpu…80X

videocardbenchmark.net/gpu…470
)
To get some relativity. Its not perfect. Similar architecture sku's is close.
I will at this juncture point out every single 4+ year old Nvidia card should be removed from Tom's knobware chart unless re tested with modern games,because they are totally unsupported and go to **** for your £500, whilst something as old and cheap as an HD 5850 has maintained windows 10 drivers. An r9 290 will now humble a gtx 780 t.i.
Go figure.
Edited by: "joe_shmoe" 1st Aug 2017
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