AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 3.2 GHz processor - Socket AM4 - Wraith Spire 65W fan Included, £173 from amazon france

It's actually only £167 if you use a fee free card and pay in €, total is approx €187, so nice deal.

is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they are competitive with the intel offerings but intels cpus are artificially high due to having no real competition for so long.
I know these offer better performance in some scenarios but the 8350s were less than this 4 years ago with 8 cores

maddogb25 m ago

is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they …is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they are competitive with the intel offerings but intels cpus are artificially high due to having no real competition for so long.I know these offer better performance in some scenarios but the 8350s were less than this 4 years ago with 8 coresRead lessRead more

8xxx were so cheap because they were 8 core made on a old and proven process (32mm). It could even be argued that they weren't real 8 cores, but something between a 4/8 part and a 'real' 8 core. They didn't stack up well to the intel counterparts for most use cases too, which meant they had to be sold with reduced margins from the get go.

This 6/12 part offers not "some" but significantly better performance in pretty much every scenario I've seen - it's really not even close.

maddogb33 m ago

is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they …is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they are competitive with the intel offerings but intels cpus are artificially high due to having no real competition for so long.I know these offer better performance in some scenarios but the 8350s were less than this 4 years ago with 8 coresRead lessRead more

Given that I bought a 1600 a couple months back and I have been using it daily to play at 144+fps/hz. Nah, I'd say they're a really good deal at any price under £200.
Throw a B350 motherboard in for £70, and a CM 212 and you've got a pretty complete package for under £300.

Normal price from UK sites for this bundle is about £180 (Amazon, Scan, Ebuyer)

maddogb1 h, 38 m ago

is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they …is it just me or does anyone else think ryzen is over priced? i know they are competitive with the intel offerings but intels cpus are artificially high due to having no real competition for so long.I know these offer better performance in some scenarios but the 8350s were less than this 4 years ago with 8 coresRead lessRead more

Well you have sort of agreed with yourself in that saying there competitive with Intel because Intel is overpriced , so that might mean AMD are correctly priced?

morrig12 m ago

Well you have sort of agreed with yourself in that saying there …Well you have sort of agreed with yourself in that saying there competitive with Intel because Intel is overpriced , so that might mean AMD are correctly priced?Read lessRead more

ofc i agree with myself
but imagine AMD hadn't dropped the ball with bulldozer etc and intel hadn't been allowed to over inflate their prices.
The current prices of intel would be where the AMD offerings are and AMD would have come in even lower, this cpu would probably be about £125
now most of this can be squared with Intels naughty antics re OEMs putting undue pressure on AMD back then and causing less to be available for AMDs R&D and by coming in so high AMD are literally rewarding Intel for it's bad practices by allowing them to keep their prices up at the over inflated level as well.
I think AMD might regret this strategy of not going for the Intel jugular..

PhattyHUKD2 h, 0 m ago

Given that I bought a 1600 a couple months back and I have been using it …Given that I bought a 1600 a couple months back and I have been using it daily to play at 144+fps/hz. Nah, I'd say they're a really good deal at any price under £200. Throw a B350 motherboard in for £70, and a CM 212 and you've got a pretty complete package for under £300.Read lessRead more

This is now in direct competition with the I5 8400, which clocks in around the same price, doesn't need a new cooler, and can be bought with a motherboard for 270.

That's why we are seeing a sudden downshift in pricing, so this is pretty good for everyone.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

Pretty good performance, same number of cores, no bonus threads. With a good OC, the 1600 catches up.

If you are eager to have a play with overclocking, then the Ryzen chip is more 'hardware fun' than the i5 8400.

What it really means though, is that the Ryzen and the 8400 should directly compete and both push each other down in price, which is great.

Nate14927 h, 17 m ago

This is now in direct competition with the I5 8400, which clocks in around …This is now in direct competition with the I5 8400, which clocks in around the same price, doesn't need a new cooler, and can be bought with a motherboard for 270.That's why we are seeing a sudden downshift in pricing, so this is pretty good for everyone.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_8400/18.htmlPretty good performance, same number of cores, no bonus threads. With a good OC, the 1600 catches up.If you are eager to have a play with overclocking, then the Ryzen chip is more 'hardware fun' than the i5 8400.What it really means though, is that the Ryzen and the 8400 should directly compete and both push each other down in price, which is great.Read lessRead more

Where can you get an i5 8400 with motherboard for £270? Genuinely interested btw.

Gormond2 h, 39 m ago

Where can you get an i5 8400 with motherboard for £270? Genuinely …Where can you get an i5 8400 with motherboard for £270? Genuinely interested btw.Read lessRead more

Here's the CPU at 172 + 6 shipping.

scan.co.uk/pro…ral

Here it is at 179.99 (free shipping for some/most? It is now OOS.
overclockers.co.uk/

Here is 1 of 3 places with the motherboard for 94.42

cclonline.com/pro…F7A

There was stock when I posted before, but the stock fluctuates a bit. The delivery dates on the 8400 are within a week it seems.

uk.pcpartpicker.com has a good list of retailrers

Nate14925 h, 27 m ago

Here's the CPU at 172 + 6 …Here's the CPU at 172 + 6 shipping.https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-8400-s-1151-coffee-lake-6-core-6-thread-28ghz-40ghz-turbo-9mb-cache-1050mhz-gpu-65w-cp?utm_source=pc part picker&utm_medium=referralHere it is at 179.99 (free shipping for some/most? It is now OOS.https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Here is 1 of 3 places with the motherboard for 94.42https://www.cclonline.com/product/224232/Z270-A-PRO/Motherboards/MSI-Z270-A-PRO-Motherboard-6th/7th-Gen-Core-i3/i5/i7/Pentium/Celeron-Socket-LGA1151-Z270-ATX-Realtek-Gigabit-LAN-DDR4/MBD2067/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-8WrgIbIh3kh0xy3yAZqF7AThere was stock when I posted before, but the stock fluctuates a bit. The delivery dates on the 8400 are within a week it seems.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com has a good list of retailrersRead lessRead more

That's a Z270 motherboard, don't you need a Z370?

would it not be better to spend 40 quid less and get a ryzen 1400
and spend 50 quid more on the graphics card?
i.e. I thought most gaming machines are bottlenecked by the graphics card,

lumsdot1 h, 9 m ago

would it not be better to spend 40 quid less and get a ryzen 1400and spend …would it not be better to spend 40 quid less and get a ryzen 1400and spend 50 quid more on the graphics card?i.e. I thought most gaming machines are bottlenecked by the graphics card,Read lessRead more

I gave you the tools to look, try them please.

Yes, it was the wrong one, the names are nearly identical. Here's a link to the correct one.

cclonline.com/pro…57/

99£

When I first posted it was 172 and 99, now it is 178 and 99.

so that's 277.

I can't tell if you are honestly approaching this conversation or not? Do you actually care about buying this product at these prices, or are you attempting to poke holes in my comment?

lumsdot3 h, 36 m ago

would it not be better to spend 40 quid less and get a ryzen 1400and spend …would it not be better to spend 40 quid less and get a ryzen 1400and spend 50 quid more on the graphics card?i.e. I thought most gaming machines are bottlenecked by the graphics card,Read lessRead more

If you were going to go that route, it'd better to cheap all the way out and get a 8XXX i3 or R3 1200 and try to get a deal on a 1070. Any more than a 1070 and the CPU would become too much of a bottleneck.

That said, higher tier CPUs tend to have significantly better minimum frame rates for games. If you care about smooth and responsive gaming play, then you're not going to cheap out of the CPU.