AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU only £130.99 sold by Dealtime IT and fulfilled by Amazon (Backordered until April 21st)
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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU only £130.99 sold by Dealtime IT and fulfilled by Amazon (Backordered until April 21st)

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Found 15th Apr
With the impending release of the 2nd gen processors and only a marginal increase in performance with the Ryzen 5 2600 it is a great time to buy these, and a fantastic deal.

Were in stock earlier (had mine dispatched) but now backordered and still available to purchase by looking at the other buying options...link takes you to Amazon whom sell it direct themselves for £139.99, but look in other buying options and you will see the link for Dealtime IT (fulfilled by Amazon)

Some used options on Amazon Marketplace but not recommended, I got one today listed as in original box....arrived not in its original box and clearly used (no thermal paste on Wraith Cooler and traces of paste left on the CPU).
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Bargain for a great CPU.
Any other benefits to 2xxx series besides marginal performance increase?
robodan9184 m ago

Any other benefits to 2xxx series besides marginal performance increase?


Geek bragging rights, other than that it has improved energy consumption and temperature monitoring with Precision Boost 2.
Possibly worth hanging on until the 19th if you are in two minds. The proper reviews of the 2nd gens will be out then.
Isn't it worth getting the X for extra £17?
enobano53 m ago

Isn't it worth getting the X for extra £17?


I mean, this overclocks nicely to the same clock speeds of X and includes the cooler. X comes without the cooler so you have to think about that.
Edited by: "iEimis" 15th Apr
Ok if I start to build a pc from scratch, starting with this what else will I need guys.
damienace8 m ago

Ok if I start to build a pc from scratch, starting with this what else …Ok if I start to build a pc from scratch, starting with this what else will I need guys.


Money
Vomit16 m ago

Money


Haha brilliant.

Dont forget random access memory.
damienace49 m ago

Ok if I start to build a pc from scratch, starting with this what else …Ok if I start to build a pc from scratch, starting with this what else will I need guys.


you will need a PSU, graphics card, case, RAM, motherboard. Graphics card to match this sort of CPU would be 1060/rx480/rx580 level card. You may be able to get away with just one stick of 8gb ram for now but it all depends what games you play or other workloads you may be doing. Go for anything bronze rated or higher for the PSU around the 500w range. B350 budget AMD motherboard unless you need extra M.2 slots and other slight utility features in which case you will have to go for the more expensive x370.

But like the people above have said, pc building is going to require a lot of money.


uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…q3b


that is roughly the sort of outlay you would be looking at for a very budget oriented build.
iEimis2 h, 40 m ago

I mean, this overclocks nicely to the same clock speeds of X and includes …I mean, this overclocks nicely to the same clock speeds of X and includes the cooler. X comes without the cooler so you have to think about that.


Not quite.
The 1700X and 1800 X come with no cooler. The 1600X does. It’s the Wraith Spire without the RGB lighting the regular 1700 gets.
Otherwise the 1600x is a binned 1600 that may clock higher. Realistically the £17 is insurance for the timid. Otherwise buy a 1600 and over clock.

Edit: No cooler, I stand corrected.
Edited by: "Oneday77" 15th Apr
Oneday772 m ago

Not quite. The 1700X and 1800 X come with no cooler. The 1600X does. It’s t …Not quite. The 1700X and 1800 X come with no cooler. The 1600X does. It’s the Wraith Spire without the RGB lighting the regular 1700 gets. Otherwise the 1600x is a binned 1600 that may clock higher. Realistically the £17 is insurance for the timid. Otherwise buy a 1600 and over clock.



I was of the understanding the 1600x has no cooler.
Oneday7715th Apr

Not quite. The 1700X and 1800 X come with no cooler. The 1600X does. It’s t …Not quite. The 1700X and 1800 X come with no cooler. The 1600X does. It’s the Wraith Spire without the RGB lighting the regular 1700 gets. Otherwise the 1600x is a binned 1600 that may clock higher. Realistically the £17 is insurance for the timid. Otherwise buy a 1600 and over clock.


The 1600x for sure does not come with a cooler, I think you are mixing something up. The new 2600x series will, however, come with a cooler, and the 2700x will as well with the new Wraith cooler.
999tigger22 m ago

I was of the understanding the 1600x has no cooler.


Me too.
999tigger1 h, 2 m ago

I was of the understanding the 1600x has no cooler.



iEimis40 m ago

The 1600x for sure does not come with a cooler, I think you are mixing …The 1600x for sure does not come with a cooler, I think you are mixing something up. The new 2600x series will, however, come with a cooler, and the 2700x will as well with the new Wraith cooler.



bouttime240 m ago

Me too.



I stand corrected. When I was looking into Ryzen last year. It did seem odd that the listings I saw mentioned the Cooler with the 1600X, whereas the 1700/1800X didn't.
I maybe was looking at incorrect product descriptions, since corrceted.
BBer213 h, 29 m ago

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/g2Lq3b that is roughly the sort of outlay …https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/g2Lq3b that is roughly the sort of outlay you would be looking at for a very budget oriented build.


Don't forget the hard drive. I recycled my hard drive, Solid state drive and the dvd drive. Of course many new builds don't come with a cd/dvd drive. Everything is downloaded now. If your now gaming mad the 2400G APU might be good. Probably good to set a budget. Can't complain about my Ryzen system here. Then again it updated a 10 year old system.
Damn it. I know I will not change a world but c'mon. When did you guys where for past 6 months? If you buying parts for your GAMING PC do not buy any AMD cpu. What are yours proofs to claim this is "bargain" "great" CPU? Oo Geez. In best case scenario is 20% slower than i5-8400 (cost SAME MONEY). Not to mention i5 is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X after OC... so why...why anyone recommend this CPU Oo Just cannot understand... ok. Motherboard might be cheaper a bit...but seriously? Cheapest Z370 cost 80quid.
Edited by: "HavocLP" 16th Apr
HavocLP1 h, 0 m ago

Damn it. I know I will not change a world but c'mon. When did you guys …Damn it. I know I will not change a world but c'mon. When did you guys where for past 6 months? If you buying parts for your GAMING PC do not buy any AMD cpu. What are yours proofs to claim this is "bargain" "great" CPU? Oo Geez. In best case scenario is 20% slower than i5-8400 (cost SAME MONEY). Not to mention i5 is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X after OC... so why...why anyone recommend this CPU Oo Just cannot understand... ok. Motherboard might be cheaper a bit...but seriously? Cheapest Z370 cost 80quid.


Where is your proof it is 20% slower at gaming than an i5-8400?
Anyone recommend a mobo £100~ budget?
Edited by: "Sloman" 16th Apr
cicobuff1 h, 13 m ago

Where is your proof it is 20% slower at gaming than an i5-8400?



Lol? Wow, I don't know...everywhere? On EVERY single thrustworthy pc focused website? I got my favorites, but to get some few random in english lang.:
techspot.com/rev…00/
techspot.com/rev…ue/
tweaktown.com/rev…tml
pcgamer.com/int…rs/
and so on...

and "Hitman" in 1920x1080 / Ultra / AF x16 / SMAA / DirectX 12 (DX12 - supposed to give so much power to AMD products )
with 1080Ti OC and 3200MHz OCZ Trident
P.S. Ryzen is Overclocked here

33644202-V7MxC.jpg
HavocLP9 m ago

Lol? Wow, I don't know...everywhere? On EVERY single thrustworthy pc …Lol? Wow, I don't know...everywhere? On EVERY single thrustworthy pc focused website? I got my favorites, but to get some few random in english lang.: https://www.techspot.com/review/1514-core-i5-8400-vs-overclocked-ryzen-5-1600/https://www.techspot.com/review/1608-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-1600-best-value/https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8363/intel-core-i7-8700k-i5-8400-coffee-lake-cpu-review/index6.htmlhttps://www.pcgamer.com/intel-i5-8400-review-the-best-new-gaming-cpu-in-years/and so on...and "Hitman" in 1920x1080 / Ultra / AF x16 / SMAA / DirectX 12 (DX12 - supposed to give so much power to AMD products )with 1080Ti OC and 3200MHz OCZ TridentP.S. Ryzen is Overclocked here [Image]


Your 'thrustworthy' threads are not showing it at 20% improved in games as claimed.

It's all apples and oranges, the Ryzen processors are faster in streaming and video editing.

Find me a comparably priced £131 i5-8500 that runs 20% faster in gaming for those that just want a processor for gaming and post the deal to those gamers that want a processor just for ermmm gaming at your over exaggerated figures, and perhaps if you can convince them you might find you get a heated deal.
*Sloman*1 h, 54 m ago

Anyone recommend a mobile £100~ budget?



Motherboard ?? I like the look of the asrock fatality ab350 m-itx or go for the m-atx version which is cheaper
HavocLP8 h, 41 m ago

Lol? Wow, I don't know...everywhere? On EVERY single thrustworthy pc …Lol? Wow, I don't know...everywhere? On EVERY single thrustworthy pc focused website? I got my favorites, but to get some few random in english lang.: https://www.techspot.com/review/1514-core-i5-8400-vs-overclocked-ryzen-5-1600/https://www.techspot.com/review/1608-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-1600-best-value/https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8363/intel-core-i7-8700k-i5-8400-coffee-lake-cpu-review/index6.htmlhttps://www.pcgamer.com/intel-i5-8400-review-the-best-new-gaming-cpu-in-years/and so on...and "Hitman" in 1920x1080 / Ultra / AF x16 / SMAA / DirectX 12 (DX12 - supposed to give so much power to AMD products )with 1080Ti OC and 3200MHz OCZ TridentP.S. Ryzen is Overclocked here [Image]


20%? What a joke. The 1600 holds it's place just fine VS. the 8400. It all depends on what you want to do anyway.
33646827-TWFJV.jpgFor example, it would do excellently for someone playing at qHD, where the CPU isn't the bottleneck.
GwanGy8 h, 12 m ago

Motherboard ?? I like the look of the asrock fatality ab350 m-itx or go …Motherboard ?? I like the look of the asrock fatality ab350 m-itx or go for the m-atx version which is cheaper


Yes auto correct I typed mobo

Cheers
*Sloman*43 m ago

Yes auto correct I typed moboCheers


If you want to overclock a mid-range B350 or if you need more ports the X370, if you are not overclocking at all and don't need the ports then a budget A320, as for motherboard size, all depending on whether or not you need the slots.

My own choice was a Asus B350-Plus. I have always had good reliability with Asus motherboards
iEimis15th Apr

I mean, this overclocks nicely to the same clock speeds of X and includes …I mean, this overclocks nicely to the same clock speeds of X and includes the cooler. X comes without the cooler so you have to think about that.


I got a 212 EVO so that's not a problem. Unless this is better.
NarodWicked4 h, 12 m ago

20%? What a joke. The 1600 holds it's place just fine VS. the 8400. It all …20%? What a joke. The 1600 holds it's place just fine VS. the 8400. It all depends on what you want to do anyway.[Image] For example, it would do excellently for someone playing at qHD, where the CPU isn't the bottleneck.


Oh yes... ryzen is comparable to i5-8400 in games and settings using 50% of CPU power...what a true comparision Do you guys know ANYTHING about testing procedures or real life usage? Imagine that, take any review from link I posted above (this are ** reviews trying to make ryzen look good, like I said, i choose them randomly) and you won't find any info about in what place they take measures, what was the cpu and gpu usage etc. And still...in games which suppose to favor amd products intel wins. There is NONE single game where Ryzen could be faster, and any games/maps using 120% of CPU power are showing more than 20% advantage of Intel. So any statement that Ryzen is good is based on fact that might be good to play in any games...except that many times, on many maps during heavy gun fights or whatever your FPS will drops significantly while with i5 you will see only little fps drop or not at all. It is about what do you need it for. I just simply said it's not a good CPU for a strict GAMING PC. If anyone cannot understand that then feel free to spent money on it, I don't care, just wanted to point this out.
It's hopeless but there you go some more shoots from foreign review. With same settings and stuff as other CPU, one big comparison. You right...what a joke ;]

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Edited by moderator: "potty mouth" 16th Apr
HavocLP46 m ago

Oh yes... ryzen is comparable to i5-8400 in games and settings using 50% …Oh yes... ryzen is comparable to i5-8400 in games and settings using 50% of CPU power...what a true comparision Do you guys know ANYTHING about testing procedures or real life usage? Imagine that, take any review from link I posted above (this are ** reviews trying to make ryzen look good, like I said, i choose them randomly) and you won't find any info about in what place they take measures, what was the cpu and gpu usage etc. And still...in games which suppose to favor amd products intel wins. There is NONE single game where Ryzen could be faster, and any games/maps using 120% of CPU power are showing more than 20% advantage of Intel. So any statement that Ryzen is good is based on fact that might be good to play in any games...except that many times, on many maps during heavy gun fights or whatever your FPS will drops significantly while with i5 you will see only little fps drop or not at all. It is about what do you need it for. I just simply said it's not a good CPU for a strict GAMING PC. If anyone cannot understand that then feel free to spent money on it, I don't care, just wanted to point this out.It's hopeless but there you go some more shoots from foreign review. With same settings and stuff as other CPU, one big comparison. You right...what a joke ;] [Image] [Image] [Image]


Graphs without titles and no explanation of what they are supposed to show? That's handy. My R7 1700 is great for gaming. OCd to 3.7 on stock (free) cooler.

Stop cherry picking. At lower resolutions where CPU is the bottleneck Intel wins by about 10% pound for pound. But how many people game where the CPU is the bottleneck? If you are playing at 720p or 1080p with a GTX 1070, 1080 or a1080Ti then you're foolish. And with Ryzen you can actually have your PC do other stuff in the background because the CPU usage is about 35%.

It's important to remember that the Ryzen CPUs are not maxed out. It's not that they can't handle games.
Edited by: "bouttime2" 16th Apr
bouttime23 m ago

Graphs without titles and no explanation of what they are supposed to …Graphs without titles and no explanation of what they are supposed to show? That's handy. My R7 1700 is great for gaming. OCd to 3.7 on stock (free) cooler.Stop cherry picking. At lower resolutions where CPU is the bottleneck Intel wins by about 10% pound for pound. But how many people game where the CPU is the bottleneck? If you are playing at 720p or 1080p with a GTX 1070, 1080 or a1080Ti then you're foolish. And with Ryzen you can actually have your PC do other stuff in the background because the CPU usage is about 35%.It's important to remember that the Ryzen CPUs are not maxed out. It's not that they can't handle games.


This. I assume the other person is just trolling, or maybe the worlds biggest Source engine fan
Although now my 1440p monitor has packed up I'm playing at 1080p with a GTX 1080. So I'm also pretty foolish.
bouttime29 m ago

Although now my 1440p monitor has packed up I'm playing at 1080p with a …Although now my 1440p monitor has packed up I'm playing at 1080p with a GTX 1080. So I'm also pretty foolish.


Haha, I'm trying to play 4K on a 980Ti, works fine most of the time, apart from GTA V
bouttime22 h, 35 m ago

Graphs without titles and no explanation of what they are supposed to …Graphs without titles and no explanation of what they are supposed to show? That's handy. My R7 1700 is great for gaming. OCd to 3.7 on stock (free) cooler.Stop cherry picking. At lower resolutions where CPU is the bottleneck Intel wins by about 10% pound for pound. But how many people game where the CPU is the bottleneck? If you are playing at 720p or 1080p with a GTX 1070, 1080 or a1080Ti then you're foolish. And with Ryzen you can actually have your PC do other stuff in the background because the CPU usage is about 35%.It's important to remember that the Ryzen CPUs are not maxed out. It's not that they can't handle games.


Right my fault, baddly cropped graphs. If remember correctly that's gtx1080ti + 3200 gskill men. And starting from first graph, battlegield 1, deus ex, tomb rider and watch dog's. Might be wrong, I am at work now. Nevertheless is faster if you make proper test (GPU fast enough not to slow down performance, and maps\places in game using most CPU power). Is Sikh yo bus are about that. I said many times (before mods delete posts) that I agree about ryzen being good cpu. Its just not good to GamingPC. Its obvious you dont need i5 performance if you got gtx960 in your PC! I am done with explaining the sky is blue. You don't seem to get it.
cicobuff16th Apr

Your 'thrustworthy' threads are not showing it at 20% improved in games as …Your 'thrustworthy' threads are not showing it at 20% improved in games as claimed. It's all apples and oranges, the Ryzen processors are faster in streaming and video editing.Find me a comparably priced £131 i5-8500 that runs 20% faster in gaming for those that just want a processor for gaming and post the deal to those gamers that want a processor just for ermmm gaming at your over exaggerated figures, and perhaps if you can convince them you might find you get a heated deal.



Actually, the 1600 is virtually tied in computational tasks.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

It's not really like apples to oranges. It's like a better CPU against a worse CPU. 6 core 6 thread versus 6 core 12 thread here.

You can see some tasks do indeed get a boost from the 6 extra virtual threads, but most don't.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

As you can see, on average, the 8400 slots in just above a 1600 and just below the 1600x. Not suggesting OC won't help the 1600 pass it, but we are then talking about better RAM better cooling and more voltage...

Anyway, it's pretty hard to flog the 1600 as a better CPU, you could get by with 'slightly better value' as this is 131 (backorder, ack) but eh.

hotukdeals.com/dea…260

It's 16 quid more for the i5 8400, is it worth it? I think the answer is simple: For games, hell yes. For video editing? Nah.

If you do both, the 8400 beats it by a wide margin at gaming, it may or may not be 20% (I would say it's a bit lower when you add in higher GPUs) but you may find the min frames to be the most important part.
HavocLP16 h, 44 m ago

Right my fault, baddly cropped graphs. If remember correctly that's …Right my fault, baddly cropped graphs. If remember correctly that's gtx1080ti + 3200 gskill men. And starting from first graph, battlegield 1, deus ex, tomb rider and watch dog's. Might be wrong, I am at work now. Nevertheless is faster if you make proper test (GPU fast enough not to slow down performance, and maps\places in game using most CPU power). Is Sikh yo bus are about that. I said many times (before mods delete posts) that I agree about ryzen being good cpu. Its just not good to GamingPC. Its obvious you dont need i5 performance if you got gtx960 in your PC! I am done with explaining the sky is blue. You don't seem to get it.


The thing is a 1080Ti with 3200Mhz RAM, is not a proper real life scenario.
Typically anyone buying a £700 GPU will spring for a higher tier processor.

Ryzens lower clock speeds do become a bottleneck when the GPU is maxxed out trying to feed a monster card.
That doesn't mean for the non-Intel spec, fps junkies, that Ryzen isn't an amazing buy.
Especially as lots of people like to video edit, stream etc. Where Ryzen clearly holds an edge.
Nate14923 h, 31 m ago

Actually, the 1600 is virtually tied in computational …Actually, the 1600 is virtually tied in computational tasks.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_8400/6.htmlIt's not really like apples to oranges. It's like a better CPU against a worse CPU. 6 core 6 thread versus 6 core 12 thread here.You can see some tasks do indeed get a boost from the 6 extra virtual threads, but most don't.https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_8400/18.htmlAs you can see, on average, the 8400 slots in just above a 1600 and just below the 1600x. Not suggesting OC won't help the 1600 pass it, but we are then talking about better RAM better cooling and more voltage...Anyway, it's pretty hard to flog the 1600 as a better CPU, you could get by with 'slightly better value' as this is 131 (backorder, ack) but eh.https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/in-stock-intel-8th-gen-core-i5-8400-processor-14999-amazon-2913260It's 16 quid more for the i5 8400, is it worth it? I think the answer is simple: For games, hell yes. For video editing? Nah.If you do both, the 8400 beats it by a wide margin at gaming, it may or may not be 20% (I would say it's a bit lower when you add in higher GPUs) but you may find the min frames to be the most important part.


Personally I prefer saving the extra cash and having the better CPU, cheaper motherboards and a better stock fan....the odd ten or twenty quid here and there on a build for me really adds up. Reading articles the main reason that intel is better for gaming is due to programming computations. With the Ryzen range now into its second gen and stealing massive marketshare this should see better optimisation for Ryzen processors within gaming.
Edited by: "cicobuff" 17th Apr
You will never see better optimisation for Ryzen, it never happen, not for amd GPU's (despite marketing b-shit) and not for any previous AMD CPU's. The idea of buying something just because one or two future tittles "might" favor amd cpu's is crazy. But as you wish guys.
Oneday773 h, 54 m ago

The thing is a 1080Ti with 3200Mhz RAM, is not a proper real life …The thing is a 1080Ti with 3200Mhz RAM, is not a proper real life scenario.Typically anyone buying a £700 GPU will spring for a higher tier processor.Ryzens lower clock speeds do become a bottleneck when the GPU is maxxed out trying to feed a monster card.That doesn't mean for the non-Intel spec, fps junkies, that Ryzen isn't an amazing buy.Especially as lots of people like to video edit, stream etc. Where Ryzen clearly holds an edge.


I know what you saying but that is exactly what I was trying to point out. It isn't bad CPU. BUT! That is the way to perform PROPER Cpu test. There are plenty of PC focus websites doing it wrong and that is the only way why people think Ryzen is ok. Thing is that if you not going with hi-end card you might want to choose any other 8th gen Intel CPU performs better than Ryzen in gaming. It's all ends on getting right parts for a right purposes. But as I say - stricte GAMING PC = INTEL not Ryzen. Simple as that. If you going with a budget one, feel free it's all right. But just don't expect high-end performance with Ryzen 5. Look on any gaming PC's on ebay. You can find 3rd gen Intels inside in most high value PC's, just because they still perform great. If you build PC is better too put Intel there and keep for next 8 years knowing it won't bottleneck any GPU's you will throw at it than changing whole PC every two years like some PS/Xbox. That's my point of view, I understand yours guys. But as Ryzen might be good for some people it is still worst than I5. Just that. Choose as you wish. Regards
cicobuff2 h, 22 m ago

Personally I prefer saving the extra cash and having the better CPU, …Personally I prefer saving the extra cash and having the better CPU, cheaper motherboards and a better stock fan....the odd ten or twenty quid here and there on a build for me really adds up. Reading articles the main reason that intel is better for gaming is due to programming computations. With the Ryzen range now into its second gen and stealing massive marketshare this should see better optimisation for Ryzen processors within gaming.


Ryzen range isn't in its second gen and you do see where there are tons of tech reviews showing the 8400 is the better CPU, right? That's fine, save 16 quid on your build, it's not the better CPU though. Also, you could wait for the 8400 sale which has dipped to similar prices.

The main reason the intel is better for gaming is not due to programming computations, it is due to infinity fabric being poor and intel having better IPC.

Go ahead, hold your breath and wait for Ryzen to 'magically get faster'. It won't.
Nate14921 h, 5 m ago

Ryzen range isn't in its second gen and you do see where there are tons of …Ryzen range isn't in its second gen and you do see where there are tons of tech reviews showing the 8400 is the better CPU, right? That's fine, save 16 quid on your build, it's not the better CPU though. Also, you could wait for the 8400 sale which has dipped to similar prices.The main reason the intel is better for gaming is not due to programming computations, it is due to infinity fabric being poor and intel having better IPC.Go ahead, hold your breath and wait for Ryzen to 'magically get faster'. It won't.


Ryzen range is about to be in its second gen in 2 days time. It is not just the costing of the CPU I factored, it is motherboard costings too, alongside a stock fan suitable for overclocking.

As a workstation overall the Ryzen processor simply is better than the i5 8400, you pay your money, you make your choice,


cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com…919

As for ipc. I think you need to see this youtube video
cicobuff26 m ago

Ryzen range is about to be in its second gen in 2 days time. It is not …Ryzen range is about to be in its second gen in 2 days time. It is not just the costing of the CPU I factored, it is motherboard costings too, alongside a stock fan suitable for overclocking.As a workstation overall the Ryzen processor simply is better than the i5 8400, you pay your money, you make your choice,http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3939vs3919As for ipc. I think you need to see this youtube video


1) Ryzen refresh is not the second generation of Ryzen. That is still TBD on release, latest rumors H1 2019. What you can buy, Ryzen 2xxx is a clock upgrade and re-release of the original Ryzen.

Motherboards have been released for Intel in the last month, the budget line is in line with the AM4 pricing.

I watched your video, but I have to summarily dismiss a video that focuses on comparing the 7800x and the 1600. At no point were those chips competing for gamers.

Finally, did you watch that video? Or did you just google for IPC ryzen? Because he doesn't show the IPC comparison nor does he prove anything. So, feel free to link a time in the video that you think is IPC related, but there has been countless tech reviews listed in this thread showing that the Ryzen 1600 is *not* better.

Also.

Did you read the UserBenchmark you linked? What are you trying to show? The 'effective speed' at the top has the 8400 at +13%. Were you trying to suggest that some situations favor the 1600? It looks like the 8400 wipes the floor with the 1600. Also, let's be real, UserBenchmark is awful.
My comment was deleted when I was discussing the merits of the Ryzen 5 Vs i5 coffeelake a couple days ago on this deal, but today I see way more comments on this topic, but theirs are not being deleted? Am I not one of the cool kids or something?

Anyway, the deal has now expired. The cheapest price for this is now £141.99.

The Ryzen 5 1600 was amazing at the time of release. It's still an OK deal, but since the i5 8400 came out and has been priced similarly, I think they're both pretty comparable performance wise.
Edited by: "athonjohn93" 18th Apr
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