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AMD Ryzen 5 3400G Processor (4C/8T, 6 MB cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost) with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics - £137.99 @ Amazon
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AMD Ryzen 5 3400G Processor (4C/8T, 6 MB cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost) with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics - £137.99 @ Amazon

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Posted 22nd May
AMD Ryzen 5 3400G Processor (4C/8T, 6 MB cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost) with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics for £137.99.
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Unless desperate, just wait a bit - 4000-series imminent which are a massive step-up. Also I’d probably consider a Ryzen 5 1600 6C/12T + entry level GPU for similar money. As others have said, quad-cores are quickly being superseded in the mid-range.
plewis0022/05/2020 10:27

Unless desperate, just wait a bit - 4000-series imminent which are a …Unless desperate, just wait a bit - 4000-series imminent which are a massive step-up. Also I’d probably consider a Ryzen 5 1600 6C/12T + entry level GPU for similar money. As others have said, quad-cores are quickly being superseded in the mid-range.


Makes sense about a quad core but this is an APU and not just a CPU, raw performance with a dedicated GPU then yes this isn't good value for money but for a mini ITX or SFF console / pc then this is a good cheap processor which will handle gaming and most tasks
daniielnayylor22/05/2020 10:28

Makes sense about a quad core but this is an APU and not just a CPU, raw …Makes sense about a quad core but this is an APU and not just a CPU, raw performance with a dedicated GPU then yes this isn't good value for money but for a mini ITX or SFF console / pc then this is a good cheap processor which will handle gaming and most tasks


I know it’s an APU. It’s also just about to be replaced so if you’re adamant you want an APU, Renoir is about to drop - allegedly with better integrated graphics, up to 8-cores and 7nm lithography (more efficient, less heat - ideal for ITX). Even if you are making do with 3000-series these will just drop further as people try to clear stock, not to mention the used ones that’ll turn up. If you can’t wait maybe even get a 200GE or 3000G to tie you over.
from 2 c to 8c with grapics that is Renoir !!!!!
It's weird that the 3400G in particular has held its price over the last 6 months or so while most of the other AMD CPUs have droped in price.
Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more than 60 quid and its not far behind this. I thought AMD was meant to be the cheaper of the two. (Speaking from a dedicated graphic card point of view).
Edited by: "kencol" 22nd May
plewis0022/05/2020 10:27

Unless desperate, just wait a bit - 4000-series imminent which are a …Unless desperate, just wait a bit - 4000-series imminent which are a massive step-up. Also I’d probably consider a Ryzen 5 1600 6C/12T + entry level GPU for similar money. As others have said, quad-cores are quickly being superseded in the mid-range.


You can get the 1600 for around £100. Much better buy
AQDealer22/05/2020 11:41

You can get the 1600 for around £100. Much better buy


That’s why I suggested it - but you need separate graphics too.
kencol22/05/2020 11:40

Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more …Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more than 60 quid and its not far behind this. I thought AMD was meant to be the cheaper of the two. (Speaking from a dedicated graphic card point of view).


This has integrated graphics and double the threads hence why it is a higher price. If you're looking at just CPU power there are better options for the price than this I'd agree.
kencol22/05/2020 11:40

Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more …Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more than 60 quid and its not far behind this. I thought AMD was meant to be the cheaper of the two. (Speaking from a dedicated graphic card point of view).


kencol22/05/2020 11:40

Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more …Benchmark not great, considering an i3-9100F can be had for not much more than 60 quid and its not far behind this. I thought AMD was meant to be the cheaper of the two. (Speaking from a dedicated graphic card point of view).


Benchmark is fine. In passmark 9100f is similar on a per-core basis, but scores 70% of the 3400g overall. The 3400g can be modestly overclocked as well to reduce this to around 60%. Plus the 9100f has no GPU. If you go for the 9100 th n that costs around £100-105 right now and the uhd620 in the intel benchmarks at around 70% of the stock Vega 11 graphics cores, and Vega 11 can generally be overclocked on this chip to give another 15-25% on top of that.

So I think this compares pretty favourably to the i3.

Although, since lockdown this price has soared on these. So this is a great price. A few months ago you could get a 2400g for around £80-90 new and closer to £70-75 second hand that was amazing value for money.
Edited by: "Blurigard" 22nd May
Blurigard22/05/2020 11:57

Benchmark is fine. In passmark 9100f is similar on a per-core basis, but …Benchmark is fine. In passmark 9100f is similar on a per-core basis, but scores 70% of the 3400g overall. The 3400g can be modestly overclocked as well to reduce this to around 60%. Plus the 9100f has no GPU. If you go for the 9100 th n that costs around £100-105 right now and the uhd620 in the intel benchmarks at around 70% of the stock Vega 11 graphics cores, and Vega 11 can generally be overclocked on this chip to give another 15-25% on top of that.So I think this compares pretty favourably to the i3.


This is double the price of the 9100f, like I said, I don't use integrated graphics, so was expecting better performance at this price.
kencol22/05/2020 12:02

This is double the price of the 9100f, like I said, I don't use integrated …This is double the price of the 9100f, like I said, I don't use integrated graphics, so was expecting better performance at this price.


Just because YOU don't use it doesn't mean you can compare it like for like though. It's about 30% more expensive than the equivalent 9100 and it's more than 30% more performant, ergo it's better value.
Blurigard22/05/2020 12:06

Just because YOU don't use it doesn't mean you can compare it like for …Just because YOU don't use it doesn't mean you can compare it like for like though. It's about 30% more expensive than the equivalent 9100 and it's more than 30% more performant, ergo it's better value.


How good is the internal graphics? Genuine question.
kencol22/05/2020 12:17

How good is the internal graphics? Genuine question.


It's the fastest integrated GPU there is, it can play a lot of games at 1080p on low to medium settings at reasonable framerates. There's still no comparison compared to a separate graphics card but when space is tight, it's not too bad.
kencol22/05/2020 12:17

How good is the internal graphics? Genuine question.


At stock, you can play games like Fortnite at 1080p low at above 60fps. Apex legends will run at 720p on low as well, teetering around the 50-60fps mark. When overclocked then you'll get 900p on Apex legends and you'll be able to up the draw distance on Fortnite a couple of notches.

Those are just the games that I have extensively benchmarked with this APU. Check YouTube for results of different games. I've sold a few PCs with this, and a bunch more with 2400g and 2200g and this really is very good for the cash. It has similar performance to a gt1030, which is the usual goto card for people doing a small case build that requires a low profile GPU.

It's what I'm going to be putting in my next Xbox 360 PC build.


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I have to say though, compared to the 3200G, the 3400G is vastly overpriced considering they are not a million miles apart. The 3200G is only about £80ish which makes the 3400G nearly 60% more expensive.
rcom22/05/2020 13:06

I have to say though, compared to the 3200G, the 3400G is vastly …I have to say though, compared to the 3200G, the 3400G is vastly overpriced considering they are not a million miles apart. The 3200G is only about £80ish which makes the 3400G nearly 60% more expensive.


I think this is the biggest problem and the other Ryzens make this look poor value. The new ones coming out make it even worse.

The i3-9100F people are comparing it to is just £60 - that leaves you £75 more budget for a GPU. But to be honest neither is a great choice right now imo.
plewis0022/05/2020 13:47

I think this is the biggest problem and the other Ryzens make this look …I think this is the biggest problem and the other Ryzens make this look poor value. The new ones coming out make it even worse. The i3-9100F people are comparing it to is just £60 - that leaves you £75 more budget for a GPU. But to be honest neither is a great choice right now imo.


That is true as long as nobody goes for a £75 GPU, that would only get you a GT 1030 which is about equivelant to the 3400G anyway...
rcom22/05/2020 13:56

That is true as long as nobody goes for a £75 GPU, that would only get you …That is true as long as nobody goes for a £75 GPU, that would only get you a GT 1030 which is about equivelant to the 3400G anyway...


Yes that’s why I said ‘put towards’, we have seen refurb RX 470/570/580 for less than this recently which would absolutely blow Vega 11 out the water and even new a 570/580 isn’t too much more. GT 1030 is still ok if you get the decent one, not the DDR4 junk. Either way, you’re also not sharing memory bandwidth with a discrete card.
plewis0022/05/2020 14:00

Yes that’s why I said ‘put towards’, we have seen refurb RX 470/570/580 for …Yes that’s why I said ‘put towards’, we have seen refurb RX 470/570/580 for less than this recently which would absolutely blow Vega 11 out the water and even new a 570/580 isn’t too much more. GT 1030 is still ok if you get the decent one, not the DDR4 junk. Either way, you’re also not sharing memory bandwidth with a discrete card.


Yeah, I'm hoping that my B450 motherboard gets a BIOS update for Zen 3 and then I'll look at replacing the 3400G. I don't use it for gaming but wanted the fastest Zen based CPU at the time with any form of integrated gfx, and that was the 3400G.
Used to be around £110 - cold From me as you can have 3600 for £139...
rcom22/05/2020 14:06

Yeah, I'm hoping that my B450 motherboard gets a BIOS update for Zen 3 and …Yeah, I'm hoping that my B450 motherboard gets a BIOS update for Zen 3 and then I'll look at replacing the 3400G. I don't use it for gaming but wanted the fastest Zen based CPU at the time with any form of integrated gfx, and that was the 3400G.


Yes, that's understandable. It's a good chip in it's own right but you are essentially paying extra for those graphics - makes sense if you're trying to do an ITX build or cheap gaming system with minimal parts and clutter. Looks like you'll have the options for huge gains with 4000-series - extra cores, more efficient, etc. I've had Intel until recently but AMD has literally taken the chip world by storm - back in 2016 when they announced Zen I don't think anyone believed them after years of horrible Bulldozer rubbish, this is basically their equivalent to Intel's Core 2.
plewis0022/05/2020 16:23

Yes, that's understandable. It's a good chip in it's own right but you are …Yes, that's understandable. It's a good chip in it's own right but you are essentially paying extra for those graphics - makes sense if you're trying to do an ITX build or cheap gaming system with minimal parts and clutter. Looks like you'll have the options for huge gains with 4000-series - extra cores, more efficient, etc. I've had Intel until recently but AMD has literally taken the chip world by storm - back in 2016 when they announced Zen I don't think anyone believed them after years of horrible Bulldozer rubbish, this is basically their equivalent to Intel's Core 2.


It's ironic really, my dual system case is pretty huge but the ITX area is still a bit cramped. I could go non APU but then it means paying for a riser cable, a basic gfx card, and aftermarket low profile/AIO cooling as the standard Wraith cooler wouldn't fit. A good Ryzen 4000 APU would makes things much easier...
I’m inclined to agree that this CPU has been made a bit redundant at this price, kneecapped by the 1600 AF on the cheaper side and 3300X on the pricier side. Yes you will need a discrete GPU but as mentioned refurb RX 570s have been around the £70-80.

If you absolutely must go for an APU, the 3200G is the more compelling option with a view to a GPU upgrade in the future. But as also mentioned, you’re probably better waiting to see what the new gen APUs look like. Even then, AMD are always likely to artificially limit what their APUs can offer on the graphics side; given Nvidia dominate the high end GPU market and AMD mainly competes in the low to mid range, all the AMD APUs would be doing is stealing sales from their own GPU division.

In short: this is a good price, but only go down the APU route if you really have to.
"It's the fastest integrated GPU there is cough Cough (not virus related)
Intel skull Trail VEga-m gfx , also AFAIK the mobile APUS, eg 4800HS might beat this.
I like these chips tho as everything is in one package .. Waiting to see what the 4000 is like, see if the mid-range APU can outgun an GTX960.
ALso would like to see the low wattage versions GE.
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