AMD's newest APU 2200G for £88.98 at Ebuyer
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AMD's newest APU 2200G for £88.98 at Ebuyer

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Found 13th FebEdited by:"CoumbBarr2000"
Great price for an APU with AMD's latest technologies (Ryzen 4-core with Vega 8 graphics). You don't need a graphics card with this but can add one as an option later, compatible with any AM4 motherboard (X370, B350 and the cheapest A320).

This is the cheaper model of AMD's new Raven Ridge APUs but is the higher-rated of the two for its better price-performance (the 2400G has a RRP of $170). Both come with a Wraith Stealth cooler in the box to make the deal even sweeter.

It was awarded a 9/10 rating on Kitguru, 9.3 on TPU and can be paired with an AM4 A320 motherboard (can be had for £43) for a nifty little performer for bargain basement prices (you'll need RAM, PSU and an HDD/SSD too of course).
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It might be worth editing the title to say which model is actually this price (The 2200G not the 2400G). Still, great deal!
Keydogg8 m ago

It might be worth editing the title to say which model is actually this …It might be worth editing the title to say which model is actually this price (The 2200G not the 2400G). Still, great deal!


Yep just added that in there.
Looks like you can just about squeeze gaming on 1080 with low/v.low settings and 720 with low/medium settings depending on the game. The 2400G seems to carry too much of a premium right now, it's 60%+ dearer but only maybe 20% faster on average.
Not so much a deal, more a good find for an in-stock item - having read the reviews this is amazing value, to get a Ryzen-class quad-core CPU for AM4, half-decent graphics and a good cooler (not amazing but to be able to buy one item and not three individual ones is great). I can see people clamouring for this for mini-ITX builds for light gaming and HTPCs, I certainly would. The last AM4 system I build had a terribly slow A6 dual-core, I regretted doing that at the time but didn't have another option - until now of course.
Edited by: "plewis00" 13th Feb
Seems like an great deal, afaik along with the integrated GPU this is a refined version of the 1200 which is currently £4 more on Ebuyer. So even if you don't need the integrated GPU but are looking at the entry level Ryzen its more product for less money.
These new ones seem to out perform the older ryzens anyway, even without the added Integrated gpu
the low power 35w GE versions, will be good for htpcs .. Make sure if you want 4k output for tvs - you get a hdmi 2.0 mobo, most are 1.4 !
taras15 m ago

the low power 35w GE versions, will be good for htpcs .. Make sure if you …the low power 35w GE versions, will be good for htpcs .. Make sure if you want 4k output for tvs - you get a hdmi 2.0 mobo, most are 1.4 !



I used this club-3d.com/en/…er/
rcom1 h, 10 m ago

Looks like you can just about squeeze gaming on 1080 with low/v.low …Looks like you can just about squeeze gaming on 1080 with low/v.low settings and 720 with low/medium settings depending on the game. The 2400G seems to carry too much of a premium right now, it's 60%+ dearer but only maybe 20% faster on average.



I game my 2 main games on intel HD4600 at 1600*900 low like a boss. Battlefield bad company 2 and trackmania 2 games.
rcom1 h, 16 m ago

Looks like you can just about squeeze gaming on 1080 with low/v.low …Looks like you can just about squeeze gaming on 1080 with low/v.low settings and 720 with low/medium settings depending on the game. The 2400G seems to carry too much of a premium right now, it's 60%+ dearer but only maybe 20% faster on average.


Thats pretty poor IMHO considering AMD APUs have in the past been known for decent gaming performance, who wants to play on low settings? TBH most people would be better off with a console than gaming on these as even base PS4/Xbox One will deliver higher settings than that in most games.

That said I suppose it is OK for the low price though by the time you have put a full system together you would have spent more than a comparable console and possibly even more than a PS4 Pro, which would offer better gaming experience for sure.

I was hoping this gen AMD might put out a really potent APU that could handle say high 1080P, med 1440P or similar, obviously for a far higher price, would help reduce the demand on dedicated GPUs too, but low end chips like this are not a serious GPU replacement...
Edited by: "ST3123" 13th Feb
ST31235 m ago

Thats pretty poor IMHO considering AMD APUs have in the past been known …Thats pretty poor IMHO considering AMD APUs have in the past been known for decent gaming performance, who wants to play on low settings? TBH most people would be better off with a console than gaming on these as even base PS4/Xbox One will deliver higher settings than that in most games. That said I suppose it is OK for the low price though by the time you have put a full system together you would have spent more than a comparable console and possibly even more than a PS4 Pro, which would offer better gaming experience for sure. I was hoping this gen AMD might put out a really potent APU that could handle say high 1080P, med 1440P or similar, obviously for a far higher price, would help reduce the demand on dedicated GPUs too, but low end chips like this are not a serious GPU replacement...


You shouldn't take a forum post as fact. Go and read reviews as games are running at various quality levels. Low may be for a really demanding one. Also, keep in mind, performance will improve with bios updates.
imdurc3 m ago

You shouldn't take a forum post as fact. Go and read reviews as games are …You shouldn't take a forum post as fact. Go and read reviews as games are running at various quality levels. Low may be for a really demanding one. Also, keep in mind, performance will improve with bios updates.


Sure I know it's just a rough indication, but I don't think any bios updates will take it from low to high settings at 1080P - if they did I'd be all over it!

Still think AMD have missed a trick by not making a high performance APU - say Xbox One X level but in PC form - people would be all over it in the current climate, unless they have some kind of deal with MS that forbids that...
taras43 m ago

the low power 35w GE versions, will be good for htpcs .. Make sure if you …the low power 35w GE versions, will be good for htpcs .. Make sure if you want 4k output for tvs - you get a hdmi 2.0 mobo, most are 1.4 !


Why, do these now support Netflix 4K?
powerbrick11 m ago

Why, do these now support Netflix 4K?


the netflix issue is a issue that netflix itself created
Not worth it. Needs high ddr4 ram speeds (3200mhz) for comparable performance of a gt1030. better to go used, ddr3 +gt1030 and more upgrade options regarding gpu in the future.
if amd produce an apu with gtx 960 performance then i'd be interested and wouldn't mind ddr4 3200mhz or above speed requirements to run it.
Edited by: "Maverick85" 13th Feb
Any idea how would this cope with basic Lightroom functions? Clearly it's not going to be super fast but in a system with ssd drive and 8gb ram do you think it would it run without too much waiting around?
Maverick8518 m ago

Not worth it. Needs high ddr4 ram speeds (3200mhz) for comparable …Not worth it. Needs high ddr4 ram speeds (3200mhz) for comparable performance of a gt1030. better to go used, ddr3 +gt1030 and more upgrade options regarding gpu in the future.if amd produce an apu with gtx 960 performance then i'd be interested and wouldn't mind ddr4 3200mhz or above speed requirements to run it.


Maybe if you already have the stuff, but if you were building from scratch it might be short sighted to buy last gen ram, socket and chipset to save a few pounds. this would be good for a SFF HTPC with occasional gaming and could built a decent system for sub £350 that will be upgradable for the next few years
Edited by: "Steven_Crilly" 13th Feb
taras27 m ago

the netflix issue is a issue that netflix itself created


Works fine on my 8700K, so must be an AMD issue since non of their range will do this? My TV does it too.
Edited by: "powerbrick" 13th Feb
powerbrick15 m ago

Works fine on my 8700K, so must be an AMD issue since non of their range …Works fine on my 8700K, so must be an AMD issue since non of their range will do this? My TV does it too.


its a netflix issue that plagues ryzen processors, .. REPEAT NETFLIX ..
taras16 m ago

its a netflix issue that plagues ryzen processors, .. REPEAT NETFLIX ..


How is is Netflixs fault that they want to protect their IP by insisting on hardware DRM? Good business sense. TV manufacturers comply as do Intel since this service became available.
Steven_Crilly1 h, 7 m ago

Maybe if you already have the stuff, but if you were building from scratch …Maybe if you already have the stuff, but if you were building from scratch it might be short sighted to buy last gen ram, socket and chipset to save a few pounds. this would be good for a SFF HTPC with occasional gaming and could built a decent system for sub £350 that will be upgradable for the next few years


I disagree. This is not fast enough to bother trying to develop it into a full on gaming system, so wasting good money on bad ddr4 prices is foolish. Next few years DDR4 will be gone.
imdurc2 h, 17 m ago

You shouldn't take a forum post as fact. Go and read reviews as games are …You shouldn't take a forum post as fact. Go and read reviews as games are running at various quality levels. Low may be for a really demanding one. Also, keep in mind, performance will improve with bios updates.


I would not expect any drivers/bios updates to move this APU out of it's performance range.

Here's the 2400g

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

This is 720p at the *LOWEST* settings. 50% under 60 fps. 3 above 90 fps.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

1080p at the *lowest* settings. 50% at 30 fps, and only 2 above 60 fps. This is outside the range of most FreeSync displays (45).

The 2200g is even lowlier.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

(Lowest 720p) Two titles above 60 fps.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

(Lowest 1080p) One title above 60 fps, 7 titles below 30 fps.

If you are expecting to game at 1080p on either of these APUs, you are looking at very low performance at the lowest possible settings.

720p looks to be around the correct levels, but again, this is still on 'lowest'.

So anyone doing even light gaming may be disappointed.

These chips are really not meant for AAA gaming, it would have been nice to see some LOL or Rocket League results, where these might be more suitable. Building a PC for sub 200 that can do rocket league, LOL, CS:GO could be a bit more compelling.
plewis003 h, 46 m ago

Not so much a deal, more a good find for an in-stock item - having read …Not so much a deal, more a good find for an in-stock item - having read the reviews this is amazing value, to get a Ryzen-class quad-core CPU for AM4, half-decent graphics and a good cooler (not amazing but to be able to buy one item and not three individual ones is great). I can see people clamouring for this for mini-ITX builds for light gaming and HTPCs, I certainly would. The last AM4 system I build had a terribly slow A6 dual-core, I regretted doing that at the time but didn't have another option - until now of course.


Yep the cooler in the box is something I'll add to the OP.
ST31232 h, 41 m ago

Thats pretty poor IMHO considering AMD APUs have in the past been known …Thats pretty poor IMHO considering AMD APUs have in the past been known for decent gaming performance, who wants to play on low settings? TBH most people would be better off with a console than gaming on these as even base PS4/Xbox One will deliver higher settings than that in most games. That said I suppose it is OK for the low price though by the time you have put a full system together you would have spent more than a comparable console and possibly even more than a PS4 Pro, which would offer better gaming experience for sure. I was hoping this gen AMD might put out a really potent APU that could handle say high 1080P, med 1440P or similar, obviously for a far higher price, would help reduce the demand on dedicated GPUs too, but low end chips like this are not a serious GPU replacement...


Give them a chance. This is £89 and they'll have other Ryzen APUs coming after. They're not going to release their full product stack in one month.
All the main benchmarks you need and best review out there currently >


CoumbBarr200024 m ago

Give them a chance. This is £89 and they'll have other Ryzen APUs coming …Give them a chance. This is £89 and they'll have other Ryzen APUs coming after. They're not going to release their full product stack in one month.


Fair enough, it is good for the price, just not worth building a whole PC around IMHO, unless you only want very light use like HTPC duties.

Hopefully they will launch higher end APU designs, just thought they could have lead with such a product seeing as the market is crying out for alternatives to price gouged GPUs right now...
ST312316 m ago

Fair enough, it is good for the price, just not worth building a whole PC …Fair enough, it is good for the price, just not worth building a whole PC around IMHO, unless you only want very light use like HTPC duties. Hopefully they will launch higher end APU designs, just thought they could have lead with such a product seeing as the market is crying out for alternatives to price gouged GPUs right now...


This will make your day then >

legitreviews.com/amd…662
Nice! Hot from me
Given how ridiculous GPU prices are at the moment, this would seem a reasonable stopgap for someone to build a system with the idea of dropping in at 1060 when the Bitcoin bubble bursts and they can be picked up for £75 a time.
ST31233 h, 21 m ago

Sure I know it's just a rough indication, but I don't think any bios …Sure I know it's just a rough indication, but I don't think any bios updates will take it from low to high settings at 1080P - if they did I'd be all over it!Still think AMD have missed a trick by not making a high performance APU - say Xbox One X level but in PC form - people would be all over it in the current climate, unless they have some kind of deal with MS that forbids that...


I don't. I'm sure this is deliberate. Why close off buyers of discrete GPUs or people who want Intel CPUs with AMD graphics? APUs were always mid range at best and an interim solution to some, it wouldn't make financial sense to sell performance graphics in one module, though I'm sure people would be all over it as you say.

The other issue is thermal constraints.
Jediben2 h, 3 m ago

I disagree. This is not fast enough to bother trying to develop it into a …I disagree. This is not fast enough to bother trying to develop it into a full on gaming system, so wasting good money on bad ddr4 prices is foolish. Next few years DDR4 will be gone.


Thats why i said occasional gaming machine, for a full on machine id say you need a 1060 6gb which alone is currently about £300, the same price as you could build a small machine based on this APU. Different machines for different purposes at vastly different prices.

DDR3 was mainstream for 10 years, just because DDR5 has been ratified Id say DDR4 will still be the main standard for at least 5 years
No higher APU's coming out this go-round , they will probably goose the speeds on 2.0 version but I expect the 2400g (or its successor) will be the highest performing APU from AMD. If you want top class goo-ga you need £700 intel +vega chip . I think this chip and the 2400G are fine for a lot of people , 1080p gaming , this is the 2nd best performing APU they have ever made. First World Problems .
Consoles make a lot more sense at the price point this is hitting, and none of the pain of looking at everything in lowest quality. PC master race doesn't like budget builds tbf.
Whats the benchmark of the gpu?
Hammondhammond5 m ago

Whats the benchmark of the gpu?


I gave a link to a full YouTube review earlier ^ so have a look at that and you'll see the performance.
powerbrick4 h, 45 m ago

How is is Netflixs fault that they want to protect their IP by insisting …How is is Netflixs fault that they want to protect their IP by insisting on hardware DRM? Good business sense. TV manufacturers comply as do Intel since this service became available.


There are 2 aspects. Pragmatically because particularly hw drm on proprietary standards has never really worked before for the intended purpose outside of an initial time frame. Once a closed DRM is realized and out in the wild, it's just a question of (generally short) time before it gets cracked. What they do achieve is making the end user either pay more because of fragmentation, having a worse experience and all in all probably even end up tempting more to find their content via "alternative" means.

The second aspect, is that hardware and content provider love lobbying on each iteration of consumer media to lock down users into particular ecosystems via licensed closed standards, by means of charging significant fees to whoever wants to implement said standard. You might not think this is a your problem, but ultimately it always end up costing more to the user; in this case for example, paying patenting fees to add HEVC support would have meant most likely not hitting the price point. There's a reason if natural competitors such as Amazon, AMD, Intel, Nvidia and Netflix among others are part of the AOMedia group, promoting a royalties-free open standard codec.
fishmaster3 h, 47 m ago

All the main benchmarks you need and best review out there currently …All the main benchmarks you need and best review out there currently >[Video]


Thanks this guy is great, one of my faves. Clear benchmarks and methodology.
ST312313th Feb

Fair enough, it is good for the price, just not worth building a whole PC …Fair enough, it is good for the price, just not worth building a whole PC around IMHO, unless you only want very light use like HTPC duties. Hopefully they will launch higher end APU designs, just thought they could have lead with such a product seeing as the market is crying out for alternatives to price gouged GPUs right now...


I would tend to agree with you because of the prices of DDR4 memory. But for a build using one of these, 8GB would be fine and hence not so much of a obstacle.

Also, someone asked for Rocket League. This is at 1440p and it's definitely playable so 1080p should run very smooth:



kitguru.net/com…/2/

Anand was comparing these to a £90 Nvida 1030 card. So £150 for 2400G and £88.90 or so for 2200G is very good value.

A similar CPU from Intel would cost more for the same performance. if you intend to buy a high end graphics card then you would not be buying this APU anyway. It speaks volumes that Intel is paying AMD to get it's Vega cores for it's own chips. AMD has a big head start on APU compared to Intel who have thrown in the towel.

Some good news it appears AMD are ramping graphics production to meet market demand. Nvida are not. So this could help graphics prices in next few months.

Overall, an interesting chip if you don't want to buy a graphics card.
These are not for any sort of serious gaming setups on their own. Some games will play nicely with these at 720p and some at 1080p. I guess it’s worth pointing out that quite a few Xbox One and some PS4 games play 900p or less.
As a starter system to build up whilst graphics cards (one day) come down in price, this could be a stopgap, as long as you don’t expect too much. It doesn’t cost much more than the 1st gen Ryzen so you get “free” graphics capability from that point of view. The benchmarks I’ve seen show they are typically equivalent to Intel i3 8100/8350k respectively over a range of productivity benchmarks (the Ryzen being slower on single threaded apps than the Intel chips).
If you are starting from scratch to get a basic gaming PC that can be upgraded, the alternative of getting a different current gen CPU and adding a £90 GT1030 graphics card only to have equal performance seems pointless to me.
Although the counter argument is that you could sell the gt1030 to help the later upgrade. Always pros and cons.....
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