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An Autobiography: Or The Story of My Experiments With Truth by M.K. Gandhi (Author), Mahadev Desai (Translator) Kindle Edition 99p @ Amazon

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Posted 2nd Oct
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was born in Western India in 1869. He was educated in London and later travelled to South Africa, where he experienced racism and took up the rights of Indians, instituting his first campaign of passive resistance.

In 1915 he returned to British-controlled India, bringing to a country in the throes of independence his commitment to non-violent change, and his belief always in the power of truth. Under Gandhi’s lead, millions of protesters would engage in mass campaigns of civil disobedience, seeking change through ahimsa, or non-violence.

For Gandhi, the long path towards Indian independence would lead to imprisonment and hardship, yet he never once forgot the principles of truth and non-violence so dear to him. Written in the 1920s, Gandhi’s autobiography tells of his struggles and his inspirations; a powerful and enduring statement of an extraordinary life.
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Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a misogynist and a racist, who enjoyed frolics with his nieces. Spun quite a yarn, as well as his own cotton!
It’s a shame he only ever appeared in one good film.
Gollywood02/10/2019 08:43

Jeez! You're right Jeez! You're right https://www-independent-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15700018658590&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Farts-entertainment%2Fbooks%2Ffeatures%2Fthrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html


Randy Gandhi
Edited by: "FearOne" 2nd Oct
dijital02/10/2019 07:59

The only thing that is probably true there is the racist part, he had that …The only thing that is probably true there is the racist part, he had that in common with churchill.



Gandhi gets way too much of a pass by historians (especially compared to Churchill). Look up his quotes on Hitler and the holocaust for an eye opening experience. He was fairly open in his support for the Nazis.

His views on Africans in India and the caste system, as well has how he 'tested his restraint' were also pretty despicable.
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Father or modern India coincidentally was born today.
Bappujiii..
Today marks M.K. Gandhi's 150th Birthday
chouglez02/10/2019 06:53

Father or modern India coincidentally was born today.


Somehow I suspect it isn't a coincidence.
Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a misogynist and a racist, who enjoyed frolics with his nieces. Spun quite a yarn, as well as his own cotton!
Greywall02/10/2019 07:37

Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a …Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a misogynist and a racist, who enjoyed frolics with his nieces. Spun quite a yarn, as well as his own cotton!



The only thing that is probably true there is the racist part, he had that in common with churchill.
Damnit thought it was the model, David. Gutted

Cold!!!
Greywall02/10/2019 07:37

Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a …Quite a controversial life, now being exposed. Closet homosexual, a misogynist and a racist, who enjoyed frolics with his nieces. Spun quite a yarn, as well as his own cotton!


Jeez! You're right

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dijital02/10/2019 07:59

The only thing that is probably true there is the racist part, he had that …The only thing that is probably true there is the racist part, he had that in common with churchill.



Gandhi gets way too much of a pass by historians (especially compared to Churchill). Look up his quotes on Hitler and the holocaust for an eye opening experience. He was fairly open in his support for the Nazis.

His views on Africans in India and the caste system, as well has how he 'tested his restraint' were also pretty despicable.
He was assassinated by the far right hindu group party which today is the prime ministers party.

Well done to all who fought the war to freedom but the world is going back to the same old wars again unfortunately
abigsmurf02/10/2019 08:48

Gandhi gets way too much of a pass by historians (especially compared to …Gandhi gets way too much of a pass by historians (especially compared to Churchill).



What are you going on about? chruchill is on our money. Certain Indians supported the nazi's because they were fighting against India's version of the nazi's, The British (Then, not now also not saying supporting the nazi's was right). Enemy of my enemy and all that.
Edited by: "dijital" 2nd Oct
I think the vested interests are behind the smear campaign. At the end of the day he rejected all pursuit of money and wore a loin cloth, travelled 3rd class, he rejected violence and wanted the Muslims and Hindus to live in peace. He set an example which we should follow.
I never expect this much of negative comments.
Gooner7702/10/2019 09:42

I think the vested interests are behind the smear campaign. At the end of …I think the vested interests are behind the smear campaign. At the end of the day he rejected all pursuit of money and wore a loin cloth, travelled 3rd class, he rejected violence and wanted the Muslims and Hindus to live in peace. He set an example which we should follow.


Some very dubious practices that would probably get you arrested and put on the Sex Offenders Register!
Gollywood02/10/2019 08:43

Jeez! You're right Jeez! You're right https://www-independent-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15700018658590&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Farts-entertainment%2Fbooks%2Ffeatures%2Fthrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html


Randy Gandhi
Edited by: "FearOne" 2nd Oct
Its fashionable these days to curse Gandhi. For most of liberal Indians, Gandhi is not a god, rather he is a symbol of what a man can do, irrespective of all the baggage of his strengths and weknesses. Gandhi has his own short comings as well as his great deeds, however the beauty lies in the fact that Gandhi is so open to accept all that, he was open to all the criticism even in his lifetime. He comes to us as a simple human, just like lord Ram, infact Gandhi was fond of lord Ram.
It’s a shame he only ever appeared in one good film.
Yas02/10/2019 11:21

It’s a shame he only ever appeared in one good film.




Do you want me to hand you your coat or are you going to get it yourself?
Edited by: "dijital" 2nd Oct
dijital02/10/2019 11:52

Do you want me to hand you your coat or are you going to get it … Do you want me to hand you your coat or are you going to get it yourself?



What's worse is that I stole it anyway!...

Yas02/10/2019 12:31

What's worse is that I stole it anyway!...[Video]



I really should have known that, I hang my head in shame.
Firstly - heat for the deal. Thank you.

Regarding what Gandhi was - might as give my 2 pence worth
He was a politician - with all the same flaws and bigotry of most men of the time (particular those of the 'educated', wealthy, and/or higher class/caste - and class and caste paid a big part even if the person was not wealthy or educated). In my opinion he was and is given way too much credit, for the work of many other men and women.

Another often missed point about is that the democracy Indian was founded on was corrupted by Gandhi from the start. Nehru should not have been its first Prime Minister (again my opinion, but also shared by many). It was Gandhi's influence that got Nehru the position - for a multitude of reasons. India pretty much followed the same corrupt path ever since Gandhi and Nehru laid it out. Good people being overlooked and ignored whilst these in power keep and attain power through power and nepotism, and helping those who help them - not the people. So much potential wasted and held back. Same as the vast majority of, if not all, countries.

So, yes you can assume correctly I am not a fan of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. I take him to be then what still exists today - a politician who was also a hypocrite and someone who knew how to use media and propaganda to get what he wanted (and he suited the British 'enemies' acceptable face of oppositiin with who they could deal with).

Did others want the same thing as Gandhi when it came to independence? Hell yes, who does not want independence from a foreign government and ability to control ones own destiny? Did he/Gandhi do some good? Yes of course. But in my eyes many others (male and females) did much more, and were better human beings as well. They just did not get the credit or recognition (and many did not seek it, as they were fighting purely for selfless reasons).

Finally, in my eyes does he deserve the title Mahatma? No. For others that is a definite 'yes'. People are allowed think differently - and truth is based on perception. Is Gandhi a political to be remembered? Yes, but I remember the others more (both Indian and non-Indians). Was he with faults? Most definitely.

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dijital02/10/2019 09:19

What are you going on about? chruchill is on our money. Certain Indians …What are you going on about? chruchill is on our money. Certain Indians supported the nazi's because they were fighting against India's version of the nazi's, The British (Then, not now also not saying supporting the nazi's was right). Enemy of my enemy and all that.


India still have a version of the Nazis brutally targeting minorities it's called the RSS and Modi is a fully paid up member..
Gandhi and Mary Teresa scam of the century.
IndyS02/10/2019 13:41

India still have a version of the Nazis brutally targeting minorities it's …India still have a version of the Nazis brutally targeting minorities it's called the RSS and Modi is a fully paid up member..


While they are absolutely terrible, they are nowhere near the level of the British in India or the Nazi's.

Maybe their ideology is the same but the haven't committed atrocities on anywhere near the same scale.
dijital02/10/2019 15:28

While they are absolutely terrible, they are nowhere near the level of the …While they are absolutely terrible, they are nowhere near the level of the British in India or the Nazi's.Maybe their ideology is the same but the haven't committed atrocities on anywhere near the same scale.

Sure not to the same extent, yet. East India company raped India of its natural resources and treasures that sit in museums or private collections in the West and they conspired with local sellouts to bring down many Rajas. Brits argue they provided the rail infrastructure, set up universities that are still in use now etc

Gandhi was murdered by an RSS member right?
dijital02/10/2019 15:28

While they are absolutely terrible, they are nowhere near the level of the …While they are absolutely terrible, they are nowhere near the level of the British in India or the Nazi's.Maybe their ideology is the same but the haven't committed atrocities on anywhere near the same scale.


Do you fully understand the suffering cause by Nazi's on Jews, gypsies homosexuals, etc to be able to say Indian suffered more under the British then people did at the hands of Nazi's?

Also regarding atrocities committed by the British in India - really depends on when and also by whom (percentage wise - white British made up a tiny number compared to the Indians in its army). As to when -
Was it pre or post Victoria direct rule of India, where the British took over what the East India Company was doing - and really pushing the segregation and superiority of the British/White race agenda? You may find that many EIC and (influencial) Indians traded fairly and as equals when it was just about trade (pre-direct rule from UK).

The Indian society was never fair on the average poor man - even under the rule of home grown Raja's, religious leaders and other invaders/occupiers before the British (i.e. Mughal's etc). With or without British influence Indians have been victimising their fellow Indians in the past (and still do). Although, some areas were less caste/division based then others.

Also, since Indian independence, numerous atrocities and pograms have been carried out - just like under British Rule (some equal in severity) and many that still don't get acknowledged having been pogroms despite all the evidence in front of the Indian government and world. You had British superiority as the excuse before independence for crimes against humanity during direct rule, and now since independent India it's the good ol' religion, caste, gender, state, they did this so we must do that etc... As excuses. Back then (British India) it was 'they are doing this to us' (even though Indians did the same to one another also), and now it is - 'this is an internal matter', 'you don't understand the nuances of India', 'these are our people, we know best', etc. Same bs different day.

Unless you learn from it, it will keep happening. The best way to learn and grow is to study (again thanks for the deal @tiggerloveslife ).
Edited by: "sarb_singh1980" 2nd Oct
not sure abt the book , but definitely recommend the Oscar award winner movie - Gandhi .
Bringing on a revolution through "Non-violence" and coming up with some unique ideas like the non-cooperation movement and salt -satyagraha...... definitely an Icon of the Century.
sarb_singh198002/10/2019 15:55

Do you fully understand the suffering cause by Nazi's on Jews, gypsies …Do you fully understand the suffering cause by Nazi's on Jews, gypsies homosexuals, etc to be able to say Indian suffered more under the British then people did at the hands of Nazi's?Also regarding atrocities committed by the British in India - really depends on when and also by whom (percentage wise - white British made up a tiny number compared to the Indians in its army). As to when - Was it pre or post Victoria direct rule of India, where the British took over what the East India Company was doing - and really pushing the segregation and superiority of the British/White race agenda? You may find that many EIC and (influencial) Indians traded fairly and as equals when it was just about trade (pre-direct rule from UK). The Indian society was never fair on the average poor man - even under the rule of home grown Raja's, religious leaders and other invaders/occupiers before the British (i.e. Mughal's etc). With or without British influence Indians have been victimising their fellow Indians in the past (and still do). Although, some areas were less caste/division based then others. Also, since Indian independence, numerous atrocities and pograms have been carried out - just like under British Rule (some equal in severity) and many that still don't get acknowledged having been pogroms despite all the evidence in front of the Indian government and world. You had British superiority as the excuse before independence for crimes against humanity during direct rule, and now since independent India it's the good ol' religion, caste, gender, state, they did this so we must do that etc... As excuses. Back then (British India) it was 'they are doing this to us' (even though Indians did the same to one another also), and now it is - 'this is an internal matter', 'you don't understand the nuances of India', 'these are our people, we know best', etc. Same bs different day. Unless you learn from it, it will keep happening. The best way to learn and grow is to study (again thanks for the deal @tiggerloveslife ).


In recent times, the 1984 Genocide and Gujarat riots 2002 spring to mind.
IndyS02/10/2019 18:35

In recent times, the 1984 Genocide and Gujarat riots 2002 spring to mind.


Unfortunately, just 2 of many in the recent past (let alone the current acts carried out throughout the country - some by local governments, others by local cabals etc).

Still, it's not all bad, many people working on solutions - be they political, social, or environmental . Younger generation, with access to a more global media tend to have somewhat of a more 'live and let live', yet socially responsible attitude, and are not so easily provoked by 'leaders' and the mob (I write in hope!).
Cobblers
sarb_singh198002/10/2019 15:55

Do you fully understand the suffering cause by Nazi's on Jews, gypsies …Do you fully understand the suffering cause by Nazi's on Jews, gypsies homosexuals, etc to be able to say Indian suffered more under the British then people did at the hands of Nazi's?Also regarding atrocities committed by the British in India - really depends on when and also by whom (percentage wise - white British made up a tiny number compared to the Indians in its army). As to when - Was it pre or post Victoria direct rule of India, where the British took over what the East India Company was doing - and really pushing the segregation and superiority of the British/White race agenda? You may find that many EIC and (influencial) Indians traded fairly and as equals when it was just about trade (pre-direct rule from UK). The Indian society was never fair on the average poor man - even under the rule of home grown Raja's, religious leaders and other invaders/occupiers before the British (i.e. Mughal's etc). With or without British influence Indians have been victimising their fellow Indians in the past (and still do). Although, some areas were less caste/division based then others. Also, since Indian independence, numerous atrocities and pograms have been carried out - just like under British Rule (some equal in severity) and many that still don't get acknowledged having been pogroms despite all the evidence in front of the Indian government and world. You had British superiority as the excuse before independence for crimes against humanity during direct rule, and now since independent India it's the good ol' religion, caste, gender, state, they did this so we must do that etc... As excuses. Back then (British India) it was 'they are doing this to us' (even though Indians did the same to one another also), and now it is - 'this is an internal matter', 'you don't understand the nuances of India', 'these are our people, we know best', etc. Same bs different day. Unless you learn from it, it will keep happening. The best way to learn and grow is to study (again thanks for the deal @tiggerloveslife ).


Ehm...you're welcome...I think....who knew it would end up being such a controversial deal

In response to all the posted comments by various people above I'm not quite sure what to say tbh
Edited by: "tiggerloveslife" 2nd Oct
Yas02/10/2019 07:31

Somehow I suspect it isn't a coincidence.


I meant the deal being posted and his birth anniversary because I am guessing the op posting the deal perhaps wasn’t aware it’s his birthday today hence coincidental.
IndyS02/10/2019 13:41

India still have a version of the Nazis brutally targeting minorities it's …India still have a version of the Nazis brutally targeting minorities it's called the RSS and Modi is a fully paid up member..



Funny how ppl complain about minorities suffering in India, but they still want to live there.
tiggerloveslife02/10/2019 21:02

Ehm...you're welcome...I think....who knew it would end up being such a …Ehm...you're welcome...I think....who knew it would end up being such a controversial deal In response to all the posted comments by various people above I'm not quite sure what to say tbh


It's a good deal in itself. And take it as a bonus that it has people discussing things (and in a largely, if not completely, respectful manner).
Aq a
dhoomdhoom02/10/2019 21:37

Funny how ppl complain about minorities suffering in India, but they still …Funny how ppl complain about minorities suffering in India, but they still want to live there.


To whom do you refer when it comes to "they still want to live there" - the minorities who suffer in India or the ppl 'complaining'? Or both?

If it is the minorities, unless you ask each one you will never know - but I suspect many would like to leave if they could (and many do), others have family ties that keep them there even if they have the means, whilst others stay because they see a future and hope for the country despite the problems. I'm guessing all are not blind to the problems - they just live with them and hope for better from 'leaders' etc.

If it's the people who 'complain', with the assumption you are referring to those on here/deals site based in the UK - again unless you ask everyone you will never know for sure. I'll speak for myself, I'd rather be here then in India. This is home. If I do have to leave it for some reason, India would not be my country of choice to emigrate to. As India is currently - I'd think there are many more welcoming and liberal places I'd choose to be.
Edited by: "sarb_singh1980" 2nd Oct
dhoomdhoom02/10/2019 21:37

Funny how ppl complain about minorities suffering in India, but they still …Funny how ppl complain about minorities suffering in India, but they still want to live there.


Oh please time for a reality check
Emigration is at a record high, as is drug use and farmer suicides as they are treated like dirt despite feeding the nation, riverr waters distributed unevenly, suppression of minority languages and history through nefarious means, corruption galore, police brutality, & torture...list is endless.

It's not all bad, that I won't go into as this post will be deleted for breach of sites tcs
Edited by: "IndyS" 3rd Oct
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