Apple 13" MacBook Pro with Retina Display - 2 Day Groupon Offer  (ASK Direct) £1199 instead of £1408.99
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Apple 13" MacBook Pro with Retina Display - 2 Day Groupon Offer (ASK Direct) £1199 instead of £1408.99

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Found 14th Mar 2013
First of all, it's an Apple - up to you whether this is to your liking or not.

Found this today on Groupon. Two ways to look at it - on it's own it's a good discount... cheaper than the usual price and a little cheaper than educational discount (though do remember if you get educational discount you're also entitled to a much cheaper applecare protection plan which I strongly advise you get as it's excellent value for money and Apple give a great service).

The other way to look at it is that quite often these deals start to emerge just before Apple revise their products and they may well be a keynote this month about this.

All in all though, a good saving on a good computer, with excellent resale value.

***should also mention that if you're comparing the prices with the standard apple store prices you should remember to upgrade your basket to the 256GB SSD which takes the price to £1408.99

Here's the specs:
• MacBook Pro with 13” Retina display
• LED-backlit screen
• 2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
• 8GB of 1600MHz memory
• 256GB flash storage
• Intel HD graphics 4000
• 720p FaceTime HD camera
• OS X Mountain Lion pre-installed
• Up to seven hours wireless web battery life and 30 days’ standby time
• Option to include Wenger carry case
• Free delivery

24 Comments

13 inch Macbook Pro is pointless and a rip off in price get 15 inch or a 13 inch Macbook Air
also it's cheaper from Apple's website RIGHT HERE

Cheaper at John Lewis.

Change_Me

13 inch Macbook Pro is pointless and a rip off in price get 15 inch or a … 13 inch Macbook Pro is pointless and a rip off in price get 15 inch or a 13 inch Macbook Airalso it's cheaper from Apple's website RIGHT HERE



Can you please explain both those comments?

Why is it pointless?

where is it cheaper on Apple's website?

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Change_Me

13 inch Macbook Pro is pointless and a rip off in price get 15 inch or a … 13 inch Macbook Pro is pointless and a rip off in price get 15 inch or a 13 inch Macbook Airalso it's cheaper from Apple's website RIGHT HERE



You've put the link to the educational store (which in theory at least means you need to prove you're either student or involved with education) - and if you bother to change the specs to 256GB you'll find it's £1212.

HD 4000 graphics with a resolution that size is just stupid, if you're going to get a macbook get one with the dedicated GPU.

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djmutters

Cheaper at John Lewis.


where? I'm seeing it as £1249 with applecare/john lewis equivalent but only 128GB SSD or £1349 with 256GB SSD and applecare/john lewis.

DribbleZ

HD 4000 graphics with a resolution that size is just stupid, if you're … HD 4000 graphics with a resolution that size is just stupid, if you're going to get a macbook get one with the dedicated GPU.



again why is the HD4000 stupid? I use it to power a HTPC to over 10FT on a 1080p 3d Projector and works fine. Why would it not be able to cope with a 13.3" screen?

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DribbleZ

HD 4000 graphics with a resolution that size is just stupid, if you're … HD 4000 graphics with a resolution that size is just stupid, if you're going to get a macbook get one with the dedicated GPU.


I have a macbook air so will not be buying one. However, despite having 'paltry' HD4000, I can still run Skyrim, Dishonoured and plenty more games quite happily with no slowdown. I know that the retina has a much bigger resolution, but the point is for the price this is a good computer for the likes of photo editors and graphics professionals. True, get a 15 inch macbook retina with a dedicated graphics card if you need to lug a lot of pixels round the screen to play Crysis 3, but you won't be seeing it at £1199.

Anyway, got work to do. Thought I'd post a deal.

sjaddy

again why is the HD4000 stupid? I use it to power a HTPC to over 10FT on … again why is the HD4000 stupid? I use it to power a HTPC to over 10FT on a 1080p 3d Projector and works fine. Why would it not be able to cope with a 13.3" screen?



Because the size of the screen has nothing at all to do with the amount of pixels that it has.

2560x1600 = 4.1MP

1920x1010 = 2.07MP

Twice the amount of pixels to drive. So yeah, when you consider how complex GUI's are these days it is asking a lot of a integrated GPU

sjaddy

again why is the HD4000 stupid? I use it to power a HTPC to over 10FT on … again why is the HD4000 stupid? I use it to power a HTPC to over 10FT on a 1080p 3d Projector and works fine. Why would it not be able to cope with a 13.3" screen?

It doesn't matter what size the actual screen is, the "retina display" has a resolution of 2560 x 1600. It takes a lot GPU power to cope this resolution. It's about how many pixels it has to drive, and the HD 4000 just isn't up to the task.

It doesn't matter if you're using it on a 10" screen or 100" projector, 1080p is 1080p, it doesn't change or become and harder to cope with if the screen is bigger.


Edited by: "DribbleZ" 14th Mar 2013

FunkyMonkeyDooDa

I have a macbook air so will not be buying one. However, despite having … I have a macbook air so will not be buying one. However, despite having 'paltry' HD4000, I can still run Skyrim, Dishonoured and plenty more games quite happily with no slowdown. I know that the retina has a much bigger resolution, but the point is for the price this is a good computer for the likes of photo editors and graphics professionals. True, get a 15 inch macbook retina with a dedicated graphics card if you need to lug a lot of pixels round the screen to play Crysis 3, but you won't be seeing it at £1199.Anyway, got work to do. Thought I'd post a deal.



Because the 3D performance of the the HD4000 in games has absolutely no bearing on the 2D performance in OSX in general.

Its widely acknowledged that the HD4000 was an idiotic choice for a screen with that resolution.

When did this site go from being HOTUKDEALS - as in rating a deal on the saving (17% off RRP) to rating a deal because someone doesn't like the product?
Edited by: "sjaddy" 14th Mar 2013

sjaddy

When did this site go from being HOTUKDEALS - as in rating a deal on the … When did this site go from being HOTUKDEALS - as in rating a deal on the saving (17% off RRP) to rating a deal because someone doesn't like the product?


RRP is not the best indication of the price one needs to pay. It is most often inflated. iFans may buy at RRP in iUniverse but these site is about deals for normal humans.

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sjaddy

When did this site go from being HOTUKDEALS - as in rating a deal on the … When did this site go from being HOTUKDEALS - as in rating a deal on the saving (17% off RRP) to rating a deal because someone doesn't like the product?


This is beginning to happen more and more on just about everything... particularly computers and mobile phones.

Anyway, yes, I know about the issue with the HD4000... I made the choice over christmas to go for the air as it felt like I was getting more bang for my buck, in part on some views made like the above which sounded like it was a really poor choice. But you know, the odd thing is that if the on board graphics is such an issue then why does it get so many extremely good reviews - just type it in google and see the results! By the opinions of some people it sounds as if this particularly computer is going to be stuttery and dog slow... it just isn't, but hey ho. Haters gotta be...

BargainHunter108

RRP is not the best indication of the price one needs to pay. It is most … RRP is not the best indication of the price one needs to pay. It is most often inflated. iFans may buy at RRP in iUniverse but these site is about deals for normal humans.



RRP is the Recommended Retail Price as set normally by the manufacturer. The likes of Tesco and the like often undercut RRP to get people into their store.

This site though is about getting a product (whether it is a car, a terrys chocolate orange, or an apple device) CHEAPER than anywhere else. The people who are coming on here and voting cold haven't shown a single example of where it is cheaper elsewhere. Surely that is what makes it a deal not whether you think an Apple device is worth the money being asked but can you find it cheaper?

someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they also have a nvidia card in them, NOT just a HD4000 which is on the cpu...

I'm almost certain they do... there is an issue where if you use windows boot camp the nvidia card runs a bit hot, that's how I know.

and yes, comment on the deal, I wouldn't buy bras and knickers for myself would I as they are pointless to me (i'm a male) so statements like that are really pointless. Here is a simple rule for people who don't get this site..

Can I find the item elsewhere cheaper? - No = Vote Hot. Can I find the item cheaper elsewhere? - Yes = comment with link and vote deal cold.

Not hard is it?

hukd_addict

someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they also have a nvidia card in … someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they also have a nvidia card in them, NOT just a HD4000 which is on the cpu... I'm almost certain they do... there is an issue where if you use windows boot camp the nvidia card runs a bit hot, that's how I know. and yes, comment on the deal, I wouldn't buy bras and knickers for myself would I as they are pointless to me (i'm a male) so statements like that are really pointless. Here is a simple rule for people who don't get this site..Can I find the item elsewhere cheaper? - No = Vote Hot. Can I find the item cheaper elsewhere? - Yes = comment with link and vote deal cold. Not hard is it?



I've got a 15" MacBook Retina and that has an Intel and an NVidia GPU, I can't comment on the 13" version though.

Nice screen though, it's perfect for those cat videos I watch in Starbucks whilst wearing Swedish designer glasses, a black roll top jumper and some cool slacks (thought I'd better get that in, before some 12 year old with an Acer does)

People complaining about RRP, but when it comes to apple products *that is what you nearly always have to pay*. So this seems like a good deal to me

hukd_addict

someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they also have a nvidia card in … someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they also have a nvidia card in them, NOT just a HD4000 which is on the cpu...



The 13" rMBP has no nVidia GPU, only the HD4000.

snakeybidder

One big rip off. I'll say it again...... These people are mugs



I tell you what, that 'suspended' image looks great, even on a normal screen

Original Poster

Well, all in all it's a pity that this deal hasn't been voted on how much you're saving rather than whether you like the product.

I would urge anyone to look at the reviews... there are many and the average that this laptop gets is about 8/10.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/1296148/apple-13-inch-macbook-pro-with-retina-display
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/378118/apple-macbook-pro-13in-with-retina-display
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/macbook-pro-13-inch-with-retina-display-1112164/review
pcmag.com/art…425,00.asp
(keep searching and you'll find more)

The issue about the onboard graphics is interesting...again do a search and you'll find some revealing results whilst using it in the real world...my thoughts are that if you're wanting a fast display and want to play recent games there are better choices out there, but for the majority of people it's not going to be a frustration when you weigh up the pros and cons.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/11/13-retina-macbook-pro-review-more-pixels-less-value/2/

Use some common sense people. It's a lot of money, if you're not sure go to PC World or the Applestore and have a play.

The deal isn't right for me - I already have enough computers, but after spending quite a lot of time testing one out I liked it a lot.

FunkyMonkeyDooDa

Well, all in all it's a pity that this deal hasn't been voted on how much … Well, all in all it's a pity that this deal hasn't been voted on how much you're saving rather than whether you like the product.


The level of heat is an irrelevance as what matters is if someone benefited from it.
A 500 degree deal which nobody bought is irrelevant but a -500 degree deal that somebody bought was worthwhile.
This isn’t X-Factor it’s not about popularity it’s about sharing a deal with the thought that someone will benefit.
I’m sure Apple fans on here are used to the way their favourite fruity goods get panned and can see through that and just look at the price.
I hate Apple but please keep on posting Apple deals so that people can buy them at less extortionate prices.

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Wow, that's me told. I'll never win X Factor. If I wanted to get brownie HUKD points I would have just posted a deal for thongs or briefs.

I'm not bothered about how much heat the deal gets.. with the exception that above a certain amount of heat more people see the deal. What does bother me, having been a HUKDer for many years is how often genuine deals get swamped by opinion on the product rather than if it's a deal compared other prices available.

If you take the time to post a deal then of course you have an interest in it - why bother spending the time otherwise - and why would there even be a cumulative voting system or those little icons next to the avatars if not to act as an incentive to post?

None of that is the point - the crux is that the whole apple vs. windows vs android comments (and votes) which have no bearing as to whether it's a deal or not mean that there are plenty of people that are put off by posting - this isn't in anyone's interest whatsoever. I don't particularly like Skodas, but will take my time to vote positively or negatively on a Skoda deal if I feel it's a deal. I do exactly the same with android phones despite using a windows 8 phone.

Happy for you that you feel a brand of computers is worth hating.


Edited by: "FunkyMonkeyDooDa" 15th Mar 2013

This deal is still on at Groupon. Maybe they extended it?
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