Apple 2017 Macbook Air i5 128gb - £100 cheaper at John Lewis - £849
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Apple 2017 Macbook Air i5 128gb - £100 cheaper at John Lewis - £849

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Found 5th JulMade hot 9th Jul
This is the new 2017 version - seems to be £100 more everywhere else and just added to the John Lewis website in the last day or so.

Plus comes with 2 years excellent John Lewis guarantee too.

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It may be the 2017 model but those specs are straight out of 2015. Same aging chipset, same dated display panel, virtually the same stagnant design. I enjoy Apple products but £849 for this laptop is ridiculous.

AJ92

It says 2017 but what's new compared to 2015?



Slight improvement to Apple logo... added outer shadow... looks better in Starbucks oO

Still on 5th CPU generation... this is really poor Apple
Edited by: "Ruffuz" 5th Jul
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Still on 5th CPU generation... this is really poor Apple
Edited by: "Ruffuz" 5th Jul

The macbook air is the ipod shuffle of the macbook lineup.

Ruffuz

Still on 5th CPU generation... this is really poor Apple



Not poor but deliberate by Apple so that one model range does not overlap with other ranges priced higher. For example they discontinued the cheaper MacBook Air 11" so that it won't compete with the similar sized, higher priced but underspec'd new MacBook.

dush_yant

Not poor but deliberate by Apple so that one model range does not overlap … Not poor but deliberate by Apple so that one model range does not overlap with other ranges priced higher. For example they discontinued the cheaper MacBook Air 11" so that it won't compete with the similar sized, higher priced but underspec'd new MacBook.



Deliberately poor works better?

It may be the 2017 model but those specs are straight out of 2015. Same aging chipset, same dated display panel, virtually the same stagnant design. I enjoy Apple products but £849 for this laptop is ridiculous.

Original Poster

What's better, to go up to the new Macbook's?

fordy

What's better, to go up to the new Macbook's?



Depends what you need it for. My wife has it and I hate the screen res. Also 128gb is quite limiting.

It's still a great laptop but should be cheaper with those specs.

Edited by: "Ruffuz" 5th Jul

It says 2017 but what's new compared to 2015?

AJ92

It says 2017 but what's new compared to 2015?



Slight improvement to Apple logo... added outer shadow... looks better in Starbucks oO

fordy

What's better, to go up to the new Macbook's?



It's frustrating that Apple no longer properly update the MBA and their next cheapest laptops are almost 50% more expensive. If budget is not an issue and you're determined to stick with Apple then the £1249 MacBook Pro would be my recommendation over the £1249 MacBook, but for under £1000 I'd honestly look at the many excellent Windows ultrabooks available now.

AJ92

It says 2017 but what's new compared to 2015?



A meagre processor update is about all that changed.

Ridiculous price for such specifications..

As a confirmed Apple fanboy of many years standing, even I am appalled that Apple is still flogging this ancient model with its low res screen at an outrageous price. Good deal if you really must have one, but why would you?

Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going to get (and with decent warranty). In real terms, though, this laptop is worth around £500 at the most.

The only reason Apple keeps this around is so they can keep it under the £1000 price point and maintain their margins on it. Its specs are mediocre at best (that display is shocking at this price point) and the old CPU is an insult. It staggers me that you can pick up Kaby Lake i5 laptops with IPS displays and 256Gb SSDs with the same aluminium build/ultrabook form factor (Acer Swift 3, Asus Zenbook UX310UA) for £600-700 yet people will still choose this for macOS.

I've been both a Mac and PC user for nearly 25 years but there's a point where the price gouging is just too much.

It is a shame they don't just produce an Air with a Retina screen, rather than the confusing 'New MacBook' as I find the form factor of the Air pretty much perfect. However, I too couldn't live with the display, so bought a MacBook Pro, although I still find it is nowhere near as nice to use, screen notwithstanding.

garryallen

It is a shame they don't just produce an Air with a Retina screen, rather … It is a shame they don't just produce an Air with a Retina screen, rather than the confusing 'New MacBook' as I find the form factor of the Air pretty much perfect. However, I too couldn't live with the display, so bought a MacBook Pro, although I still find it is nowhere near as nice to use, screen notwithstanding.


Even more bizarre is the base model core M3 Macbook is the same price as the base model i5 Macbook Pro (£1249). What is going on at Apple?

Cold. Absolutely horrible spec for the money. Old 5th gen i5 processor, screen that isn't even full HD, and it weights 1.35kg. Literally nothing good about this absolutely atrocious deal. Maybe if it was 500 I'd reconsider, but you'd have to be a right mug to buy this very mediocre laptop for 850. If you're looking in this price range I'd go for a Dell Xps 13 or Microsoft Surface Pro, you'll get a much, much nicer machine for your money. If you want an apple then go save up and go for the Macbook Pro.

This is just the same as previous models, Apple didn't do anything with the Air.

Interloper

Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going … Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going to get (and with decent warranty). In real terms, though, this laptop is worth around £500 at the most.The only reason Apple keeps this around is so they can keep it under the £1000 price point and maintain their margins on it. Its specs are mediocre at best (that display is shocking at this price point) and the old CPU is an insult. It staggers me that you can pick up Kaby Lake i5 laptops with IPS displays and 256Gb SSDs with the same aluminium build/ultrabook form factor (Acer Swift 3, Asus Zenbook UX310UA) for £600-700 yet people will still choose this for macOS. I've been both a Mac and PC user for nearly 25 years but there's a point where the price gouging is just too much.



You're right. In fact Apple would surely like people to forget about spec and just think it's Apple, you're paying for the Apple experience. However once you do actually need the CPU power you find their products lacking or at eye watering prices. Yes Windows 10 isn't MacOS and often has a monthly update that breaks things (looking at you May update, you broke the Windows Search and by doing so killed the search facility in Outlook at the same). Windows 10 as a business stable OS is a complete joke, as a general consumer OS well it's 95% there with MacOS so good enough, and therefore certainly good enough to not warrant paying silly money for massively overpriced hardware. The form factor has aged but aged well. You'll certainly not like a £300 HP Pavilion 15 plastic but very popular laptop over the Air, what you will like is almost everything else, the main one is saving money.

I am however interested in what Apple is doing with their file system APFS. Apple are ditching their dinosaur HFS+ file system for APFS, a bold move and one that will bring the first modern consumer file system for what 20-25+ years? So we have a system with a file system designed for the storage of today. Microsoft have attempted different file systems but never rolled them out so we're still stuck with NTFS another dinosaur. Everyone who can upgrade to the next MacOS called High Sierra will get APFS. Notice I say MacOS this is because OSX was rebranded MacOS in late 2016 when MacOS Sierra came out, it's predecessor was called El Capitan.

So regardless of the hardware APFS will make the user experience quicker depending on how they use the OS. File duplication is one of the main strengths of APFS and Encryption. I also like how Apple are utilising encryption and embedding it deeper and deeper in to their systems.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 9th Jul

iAmLegendFam

This is just the same as previous models, Apple didn't do anything with … This is just the same as previous models, Apple didn't do anything with the Air.


Wrong, they put 2017 model at the end.

The Acer Swift 3 for around £569 is better

£849 - BLOODY ELL.
And Macbook Air isn't even good for all that video editing, might still be able to handle the photo editing - I know this, I'm a Mac support guy. Apple are seriously ripping people off.

Just to add balance to the hate, I had an i5 11" air from 2015 until last year, and it was very quick and very convenient. Granted I didn't do heavy video editing or gaming on it. The only thing that bothered me was the screen resolution really.

No idea why people spend twice as much on these when compared to something far better for Windows. This thing is so dated now, the screen is rather poor too.... I just don't get the appeal. I own an iMac, an iPhone and I have a Macbook as well... but this thing is a waste of money.

SixtyFive16 m ago

I have never seen so many jealous people gather simply because they desire …I have never seen so many jealous people gather simply because they desire to own a mac but could never afford to buy one.Quite shocking [Image]


I also have an iMac that's higher spec'd than this, but I paid £2569 for it in early 2016.... I agree it could be considered a rip off. I mean I could have built myself a much beefier Windows Desktop for that, probably 1080ti SLI and still had the extra £500 for the 4K Monitor I use that blows my iMac Screen away.

I got it though cause I make an app for my Mum's work that makes it worth it, but if I didn't do that.... I agree with everyone else, they're a rip off.

But the Surface products from Microsoft are also a rip off.

Heat added. Apple's are highly optimized PC's without the typical Windows bloat, so these specs are perfectly acceptable. Also, that Apple logo just personifies "cool" that you will never get with a Windows PC

Jeezeypeeps

As a confirmed Apple fanboy of many years standing, even I am appalled … As a confirmed Apple fanboy of many years standing, even I am appalled that Apple is still flogging this ancient model with its low res screen at an outrageous price. Good deal if you really must have one, but why would you?



Would be the perfect machine if only it had a retina display. Form factor. Ports. Mag safe. The whole package. But that screen. Ffs apple.

Poor display for the price.

I refuse to upgrade from my 11" air to a macbook. Just a clear money making exercise by them to discontinue the 11" version.

Better off sourcing the last decent Mac Apple made, the early 2015 13" Macbook Pro, for less second hand.

Hot. Going to pick one up as soon as I get back from Hamburg.

Never really understood why all Apple laptops don't have a Retina display.

fandyboy27 m ago

I refuse to upgrade from my 11" air to a macbook. Just a clear money …I refuse to upgrade from my 11" air to a macbook. Just a clear money making exercise by them to discontinue the 11" version.


It's more likely down to demand, if there was enough of it they'd still be selling it.

Specs are quite poor for 2017, but it will be used for browsing and word processing, so it doesn't matter. The problem is that it's not got a retina screen which is important and crazy it wasn't included. Get the MacBook instead.

The Air is a great form, but still no Retina? The screen is by no means bad, but i'd expect higher res for my cash.

I've used my Macbook Air pretty much daily since I bought it in late 2013 and it still works great. Admittedly I only use it for things like internet browsing, messaging, email, word processing, budgeting, etc but it never skips a beat! No faults whatsoever for 3.5 years and I imagine it may well keep me going for quite a bit longer yet!

But I paid this for mine when I bought it. Shouldn't still be paying the same 3.5 years later with nothing but a slight processor/memory bump which doesn't actually make any difference to real world performance for most uses for this laptop (you're never going to be using it as a video editing workhorse or gaming machine).

128gb, cute.

Used to sell loads of these in John Lewis. Why, I don't know. The screen is horrendous - I've seen better on £300 laptops.

Sure, it's light. But I guess the real reason is that it's a mac, and cheaper than the rest. Still, I managed to dissuade a few people getting them and to get the MBPr at least, or if they were happy with Windows still, a few of Asus' offerings, which tremendous displays and Apple-like build quality.

Interloper5th Jul

Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going …Heat for the deal as if you want one new it's the best price you're going to get (and with decent warranty). In real terms, though, this laptop is worth around £500 at the most.The only reason Apple keeps this around is so they can keep it under the £1000 price point and maintain their margins on it. Its specs are mediocre at best (that display is shocking at this price point) and the old CPU is an insult. It staggers me that you can pick up Kaby Lake i5 laptops with IPS displays and 256Gb SSDs with the same aluminium build/ultrabook form factor (Acer Swift 3, Asus Zenbook UX310UA) for £600-700 yet people will still choose this for macOS. I've been both a Mac and PC user for nearly 25 years but there's a point where the price gouging is just too much.


You can always have your cake and eat it: blazinglist.com/top…15/
Just shows what a rip off macs are.

Its Apple - people are prepared to pay for computers that have pictures on the front, and they have got the same as their 'friends', who cares if the technology is five years old.
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