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Apple HomePod - Space Grey - Pre Order £319 at Argos

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HomePod is a breakthrough speaker that senses its location and tunes the music to sound amazing wherever you are in the room. Together with Apple Music, it gives you access to over 45 million songs. And with the intelligence of Siri, it's a helpful home assistant for everyday tasks, and for controlling your smart home accessories—all with just your voice. Welcome HomePod. Delivered by Yodel on the 9th February 2018.
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"breakthrough speaker": translation: "we finally realised no one wants ipods anymore and amazon & google are eating our marketshare"
Quite aside from all of the arguing above, this isn't a deal..it's just the standard price.
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Isn’t that the Standard price?
"breakthrough speaker": translation: "we finally realised no one wants ipods anymore and amazon & google are eating our marketshare"
can buy 2x Sonos 1 speaker with Amazon Alexa at the same price/ a small bit cheaper. and they have more support than the Homepod E.G Streaming music from other sources.
Edited by: "djmackie2000" 31st Jan
CrispEditor5 m ago

"breakthrough speaker": translation: "we finally realised no one wants …"breakthrough speaker": translation: "we finally realised no one wants ipods anymore and amazon & google are eating our marketshare"


... Breakthrough speaker MEANS breakthrough speaker. The audio quality mimics that of a £1000+ sound system setup
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djmackie20004 m ago

can buy 2x Sonos 1 speaker with Amazon Alexa at the same price/ a small …can buy 2x Sonos 1 speaker with Amazon Alexa at the same price/ a small bit cheaper. and they have more support than the Homepod E.G Streaming music from other sources.


You can Airplay to a HomePod from virtually any iOS device or Mac + 2x Sonos One would still eat dust when compared to the amount of computation and output that a single HomePod is capable of.
idontwannabeyouanymore5 m ago

You can Airplay to a HomePod from virtually any iOS device or Mac + 2x …You can Airplay to a HomePod from virtually any iOS device or Mac + 2x Sonos One would still eat dust when compared to the amount of computation and output that a single HomePod is capable of.



but with 2x Sonos you can have stereo rather then mono :P, so you are also saying you have heard the Homepod in real life??? how do you know what it sounds like.....


I should say I am a apply fan boy and a TV and sound system lover.
Edited by: "djmackie2000" 31st Jan
idontwannabeyouanymore5 m ago

You can Airplay to a HomePod from virtually any iOS device or Mac + 2x …You can Airplay to a HomePod from virtually any iOS device or Mac + 2x Sonos One would still eat dust when compared to the amount of computation and output that a single HomePod is capable of.


Computation maybe but I’ll be interested to compare 1 HomePod to two Sonos play 1 purely for music (the primary purpose of both). Plus even as an Apple fan who owns a lot of their products Siri is going to have to grown up quickly to be anywhere near Alexa never mind the google assistant.
djmackie20003 m ago

but with 2x Sonos you can have stereo rather then mono :P, so you are also …but with 2x Sonos you can have stereo rather then mono :P, so you are also saying you have heard the Homepod in real life??? how do you know what it sounds like.....


Aren't you making your assumptions on the same principle? I'm basing my theory based on several reviews that I have read and the understanding that I possess of the hardware within HomePod. Stereo and Mono are technical terms for configuration within a physical space, and may or may not effect the output.
idontwannabeyouanymore11 m ago

... Breakthrough speaker MEANS breakthrough speaker. The audio quality …... Breakthrough speaker MEANS breakthrough speaker. The audio quality mimics that of a £1000+ sound system setup


I would say that sound quality is subjective and although it may have better quality than a cheaper alternative like the echo dot or google home mini, its main competitors are the echo plus and google home, so lets wait until reviews and hear the home pod in person before we make a final judgment on the sound quality and if its worth £319
cantonbean3 m ago

Computation maybe but I’ll be interested to compare 1 HomePod to two Sonos …Computation maybe but I’ll be interested to compare 1 HomePod to two Sonos play 1 purely for music (the primary purpose of both). Plus even as an Apple fan who owns a lot of their products Siri is going to have to grown up quickly to be anywhere near Alexa never mind the google assistant.


HomePod is primarily a brilliant home speaker (for now), if you have seen the string of advertisements for it, only the first one (which was released in June 2017) touted Siri, none other focus on Siri for now. HomePod is not competing in the smart speaker market right now, currently its hardware first and software would improve and evolve in the mean time.
johnwillowlfc3 m ago

I would say that sound quality is subjective and although it may have …I would say that sound quality is subjective and although it may have better quality than a cheaper alternative like the echo dot or google home mini, its main competitors are the echo plus and google home, so lets wait until reviews and hear the home pod in person before we make a final judgment on the sound quality and if its worth £319


That's what is a really personal thing, how much you value sound quality over economics. But I'm very positive that as people realise the potential of a HomePod, high-end audio market is going to tumble and technologies that have previously existed for £1000+ market will now democratise. Like imagine, accelerometer in a speaker... nobody has ever done that before (at least at this price bracket), and the fact that each time you move the HomePod, it maps the space and adjusts resonance intelligently.
idontwannabeyouanymore7 m ago

Aren't you making your assumptions on the same principle? I'm basing my …Aren't you making your assumptions on the same principle? I'm basing my theory based on several reviews that I have read and the understanding that I possess of the hardware within HomePod. Stereo and Mono are technical terms for configuration within a physical space, and may or may not effect the output.



I have been keeping my eyes on this also. but i know when i watch a movie or listen to music i want sound to come from all around me at the very min from both sides (Stereo). this unit cannot do this unless you buy 2. and we all know apply will lock allot of streaming down(E.G they might lock it down to Apple music only and lock out others. ) to this unit. from what i ave heard Sonos support way more streaming services,
Edited by: "djmackie2000" 31st Jan
And the market for a £320 MONO speaker is near zero, regardless of the tech inside. If it was a smart speaker (re: comments above) then it might justify it, but to sell it as s £320 MONO speaker....
Wow...
idontwannabeyouanymore5 m ago

HomePod is primarily a brilliant home speaker (for now), if you have seen …HomePod is primarily a brilliant home speaker (for now), if you have seen the string of advertisements for it, only the first one (which was released in June 2017) touted Siri, none other focus on Siri for now. HomePod is not competing in the smart speaker market right now, currently its hardware first and software would improve and evolve in the mean time.


But dont you think that to make it worth the £319 it will need superior sound and software? As others have said this is double the price of he competitors. Just to note I am an apple fan and own many devices and prefer to own music and movies on itunes to any other service. Just I feel that people meed to hear the sound quality and siri needs to be better than google home assistant and alexa to justify the price point, not buy at this price now for siri to catch up in the future
djmackie20004 m ago

I have been keeping my eyes on this also. but i know when i watch a movie …I have been keeping my eyes on this also. but i know when i watch a movie or listen to music i want sound to come from all around me at the every min from both sides (Stereo). this unit cannot do this unless you buy 2. and we all know apply will lock allot of streaming down(E.G they might lock it down to Apple music only and lock out others. ) to this unit. from what i ave heard Sonos support way more streaming services,


HomePod can stream from any source out of the box via AirPlay. Apple Music is the only way to play music using Siri. Regarding the 'sound all around me' argument, read point 2 in conclusions - reddit.com/r/a…he/
I agree that this is a personal perspective of someone, but the fact that this person is not the only one making such observations is enough to conclude that this speaker is going to be radical
will it support Dolby Atoms Sound......
idontwannabeyouanymore6 m ago

That's what is a really personal thing, how much you value sound quality …That's what is a really personal thing, how much you value sound quality over economics. But I'm very positive that as people realise the potential of a HomePod, high-end audio market is going to tumble and technologies that have previously existed for £1000+ market will now democratise. Like imagine, accelerometer in a speaker... nobody has ever done that before (at least at this price bracket), and the fact that each time you move the HomePod, it maps the space and adjusts resonance intelligently.


I really do respect your opinion on this and if you want the home pod then go for it. All I am saying is that I need to hear in person to justify the price and I love my JBL extreme which new is £250 (I know its not a smart speaker before anyone pojnts that out). But for the time being I will just stick to that for music and use alexa for my home assistant. Maybe upgrade to a home pod in a few years
I say let’s wait and see. My main issue with the HomePod is less Siri (though I have both google home and Alexa in the house and use them daily) and more I think it needs to support Spotify in order to take people away from Sonos or google Chromecast Audio linked to a good hifi. I just want to see how it sounds before judgement. The technology is definitely exciting but not a fan of such a close system when elsewhere Apple have finally started to listen (amazon video on Apple TV etc)
Edited by: "cantonbean" 31st Jan
johnwillowlfc5 m ago

But dont you think that to make it worth the £319 it will need superior …But dont you think that to make it worth the £319 it will need superior sound and software? As others have said this is double the price of he competitors. Just to note I am an apple fan and own many devices and prefer to own music and movies on itunes to any other service. Just I feel that people meed to hear the sound quality and siri needs to be better than google home assistant and alexa to justify the price point, not buy at this price now for siri to catch up in the future


Any first generation Apple product aims to disrupt a certain category (Home audio in this case) before evolving into many different incredible things with time and software updates. HomePod is audio first, just like Apple Watch's first generation was Notification relay and communication device initially and then it eventually pivoted hard into several other things including health. Same for the iPad, which was primarily a device to browse the web and enjoy books when it was first launch and look at what it has evolved into today. Consider iPhone's first year with no third party apps and look at the eco-system today. I'm a very early adopter and I'm very eager to try and be witness to this evolution and I'm very positive about HomePod initial impact on home audio market followed by several other intelligent assistant integrations and improvements.
johnwillowlfc3 m ago

I really do respect your opinion on this and if you want the home pod then …I really do respect your opinion on this and if you want the home pod then go for it. All I am saying is that I need to hear in person to justify the price and I love my JBL extreme which new is £250 (I know its not a smart speaker before anyone pojnts that out). But for the time being I will just stick to that for music and use alexa for my home assistant. Maybe upgrade to a home pod in a few years


And I respect yours. I hope you get to try one real soon!
bilbob10 m ago

And the market for a £320 MONO speaker is near zero, regardless of the …And the market for a £320 MONO speaker is near zero, regardless of the tech inside. If it was a smart speaker (re: comments above) then it might justify it, but to sell it as s £320 MONO speaker....Wow...


Isn't a soundbar a mono speaker? There's been a huge market for those even when they retailed for £500+. I'd say wait and take a listen!
£320 LMAO
cantonbean6 m ago

I say let’s wait and see. My main issue with the HomePod is less Siri ( …I say let’s wait and see. My main issue with the HomePod is less Siri (though I have both google home and Alexa in the house and use them daily) and more I think it needs to support Spotify in order to take people away from Sonos or google Chromecast Audio linked to a good hifi. I just want to see how it sounds before judgement. The technology is definitely exciting but not a fan of such a close system when elsewhere Apple have finally started to listen (amazon video on Apple TV etc)


True! I doubt Spotify would ever natively come to HomePod, but you'll always be able to AirPlay it. When it comes to relaying TV audio, I think Apple TV would be wirelessly be able to connect to HomePod and deliver which means any content on Apple TV can output audio on the HomePod, but I don't think the primary purpose of this speaker is to be that. But we'll see where time takes us.
idontwannabeyouanymore3 m ago

Isn't a soundbar a mono speaker? There's been a huge market for those even …Isn't a soundbar a mono speaker? There's been a huge market for those even when they retailed for £500+. I'd say wait and take a listen!


do you know anything about sound at all. one a soundbar is not mono as there is enuff distance between the speakers from one end to the other to make it stereo. that would be like saying your car is a mono speaker.

the home pod is to small to be able to hear sound from 2 directions.
idontwannabeyouanymore6 m ago

Any first generation Apple product aims to disrupt a certain category …Any first generation Apple product aims to disrupt a certain category (Home audio in this case) before evolving into many different incredible things with time and software updates. HomePod is audio first, just like Apple Watch's first generation was Notification relay and communication device initially and then it eventually pivoted hard into several other things including health. Same for the iPad, which was primarily a device to browse the web and enjoy books when it was first launch and look at what it has evolved into today. Consider iPhone's first year with no third party apps and look at the eco-system today. I'm a very early adopter and I'm very eager to try and be witness to this evolution and I'm very positive about HomePod initial impact on home audio market followed by several other intelligent assistant integrations and improvements.


I think difference with this is that there is already established alternatives on the market, which is more difficult to sell than previous products apple have introduced. For example the ipad was introduced when the tablet market was just in its infancy, however alexa has been around for a good few years now and thte home pod will need to blow people away to get them to replace their echos and spend double he price to upgrade.
djmackie20001 m ago

do you know anything about sound at all. one a soundbar is not mono as …do you know anything about sound at all. one a soundbar is not mono as there is enuff distance between the speakers from one end to the other to make it stereo. that would be like saying your car is a mono speaker. the home pod is to small to be able to hear sound from 2 directions.


Read conclusion #2 reddit.com/r/a…he/
We live in an age and time where size has stopped to matter.
johnwillowlfc6 m ago

I think difference with this is that there is already established …I think difference with this is that there is already established alternatives on the market, which is more difficult to sell than previous products apple have introduced. For example the ipad was introduced when the tablet market was just in its infancy, however alexa has been around for a good few years now and thte home pod will need to blow people away to get them to replace their echos and spend double he price to upgrade.


HomePod isn't going to the market of echo consumers right now, its going to the consumers who want a great home audio speaker. Echo customers and other would join in gradually. First year for any new Apple category is slow, but we are all witness to how massively it grows over time. Though, it is now 'slow' slow, like no other company can match it for sure.
Edited by: "idontwannabeyouanymore" 31st Jan
idontwannabeyouanymore5 m ago

Read conclusion #2 …Read conclusion #2 https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7t51a2/nda_is_up_what_can_i_tell_you_guys_about_the/We live in an age and time where size has stopped to matter.



tell this to big music venues that spend £10,000+ just on sound equipment. yes tech are making them smaller (looks at the 1st mission to the moon. now your phone has more power then that rocket) but the human head had not changed that much and till need 2 points to be able to hear in stereo.
idontwannabeyouanymore14 m ago

Isn't a soundbar a mono speaker? There's been a huge market for those even …Isn't a soundbar a mono speaker? There's been a huge market for those even when they retailed for £500+. I'd say wait and take a listen!


You don't own a soundbar do you, and if you do it's clearly not a good one.
No, they are not mono. They might have relatively close together speakers, but they are usually stereo, if not a version of surround too.
djmackie20004 m ago

tell this to big music venues that spend £10,000+ just on sound equipment. …tell this to big music venues that spend £10,000+ just on sound equipment. yes tech are making them smaller (looks at the 1st mission to the moon. now your phone has more power then that rocket) but the human head had not changed that much and till need 2 points to be able to hear in stereo.


I assumed since we're arguing about HomePod and therefore 'consumer' audio market and not industrial audio market. I'd like you to try HomePod when its out, I respect your opinion, but please do give it a shot before being surprised about £319 for 'mono' audio. I mean, Bose and Sonos have existed in this market for years now, but the uproar hasn't been as big as when Apple entered, though I think this is the kind of reaction literally any Apple product faces before competitors start scrambling.
bilbob3 m ago

You don't own a soundbar do you, and if you do it's clearly not a good …You don't own a soundbar do you, and if you do it's clearly not a good one.No, they are not mono. They might have relatively close together speakers, but they are usually stereo, if not a version of surround too.


I was trying to make an argument about the sheer placement of a speaker, my analogy may have been wrong and I apologise, but the fact that perception of audio about direction and number of sources of audio, coupled with words like mono and stereo will cease to exist as speakers like HomePod begin to pop up.
idontwannabeyouanymore14 m ago

I assumed since we're arguing about HomePod and therefore 'consumer' audio …I assumed since we're arguing about HomePod and therefore 'consumer' audio market and not industrial audio market. I'd like you to try HomePod when its out, I respect your opinion, but please do give it a shot before being surprised about £319 for 'mono' audio. I mean, Bose and Sonos have existed in this market for years now, but the uproar hasn't been as big as when Apple entered, though I think this is the kind of reaction literally any Apple product faces before competitors start scrambling.



Bose and sonos are in it for the sound there apple was not. that is why the uproar as it is something new from them. like if they ever did bring out a Apple TV (not the puk) but a real 50"+ TV there would be a hung uproar. and if they brought out a TV back when Steve jobs 1st talk about it they would of been the 1st to bring out a smart TV, towards the end of steve jobs life he did come out saying he cracked it. but i think he also new it was to late to join the TV market.


I am still hoping on a Apple TV tho. did they not give sharp billions to get out of the crap they where in. and i am sure back in 2013 they showed 4k and 8k but then we hear nothing. i was hoping apple stuck in with the billions they gave shap for the 8k screen
Edited by: "djmackie2000" 31st Jan
idontwannabeyouanymore20 m ago

HomePod isn't going to the market of echo consumers right now, its going …HomePod isn't going to the market of echo consumers right now, its going to the consumers who want a great home audio speaker. Echo customers and other would join in gradually. First year for any new Apple category is slow, but we are all witness to how massively it grows over time. Though, it is now 'slow' slow, like no other company can match it for sure.


But thats another point that Bose, Sonos, JBL and others have existed in that market for years and are well established so it wont be easy to enter into the market
djmackie20001 m ago

Bose and sonos are in it for the sound there apple was not. that is why …Bose and sonos are in it for the sound there apple was not. that is why the uproar as it is something new from them. like if they ever did bring out a Apple TV (not the puk) but a real 50"+ TV there would be a hung uproar. and if they brought out a TV back when Steve jobs 1st talk about it they would of been the 1st to bring out a smart TV, towards the end of steve jobs life he did come out saying he cracked it. but i think he also new it was to late to join the TV market.


We'll see where time takes us. But in terms of a home audio speaker, HomePod is something very radical and I'm positive that you'll love it when you'll try it.
johnwillowlfc2 m ago

But thats another point that Bose, Sonos, JBL and others have existed in …But thats another point that Bose, Sonos, JBL and others have existed in that market for years and are well established so it wont be easy to enter into the market


Not really, because Apple makes iPhone, iPad, TV, Watch and Mac that are deeply integrated with HomePod, the ecosystem would bring in a lot of consumers who are in the high end audio market. Ofcourse, the focus for now is for people who'd like to enjoy music on this device, but I think it'll evolve into sound output for video in a year or two.
djmackie20006 m ago

Bose and sonos are in it for the sound there apple was not. that is why …Bose and sonos are in it for the sound there apple was not. that is why the uproar as it is something new from them. like if they ever did bring out a Apple TV (not the puk) but a real 50"+ TV there would be a hung uproar. and if they brought out a TV back when Steve jobs 1st talk about it they would of been the 1st to bring out a smart TV, towards the end of steve jobs life he did come out saying he cracked it. but i think he also new it was to late to join the TV market.I am still hoping on a Apple TV tho. did they not give sharp billions to get out of the crap they where in. and i am sure back in 2013 they showed 4k and 8k but then we hear nothing. i was hoping apple stuck in with the billions they gave shap for the 8k screen


I'm amazed by the feats in display tech that Apple has made over the past 5 years, but it hasn't remained restricted to portables, except for in the case of iMac 5K and maybe even the upcoming 'Pro' display. But TV seems very unlikely in the short run, but again, the fact that HomePod popped out of nowhere within 2 years makes me believe otherwise haha
djmackie20001 h, 2 m ago

can buy 2x Sonos 1 speaker with Amazon Alexa at the same price/ a small …can buy 2x Sonos 1 speaker with Amazon Alexa at the same price/ a small bit cheaper. and they have more support than the Homepod E.G Streaming music from other sources.



Alexa doesn't work with Apple Music though.
bilbob48 m ago

And the market for a £320 MONO speaker is near zero, regardless of the …And the market for a £320 MONO speaker is near zero, regardless of the tech inside. If it was a smart speaker (re: comments above) then it might justify it, but to sell it as s £320 MONO speaker....Wow...


So buy two ! Apparently they sound awesome in stereo
Quite aside from all of the arguing above, this isn't a deal..it's just the standard price.
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