Apple Mac mini MC815B/A, Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5, 2.3GHz, 2GB RAM, 500GB Hard Drive £469 @ John Lewis
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Apple Mac mini MC815B/A, Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5, 2.3GHz, 2GB RAM, 500GB Hard Drive £469 @ John Lewis

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Found 27th Oct 2012
John Lewis
£469 including 2 year warranty, free delivery or next day free delivery to a Waitrose store.
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hot from me. people probably saying not good cause theres a new one on the way, they have been saying this since the start of the year. its a cracking little product
Cold, regardless of it being apple would expect much better spec on a computer for £469.00
Cold then. About time too
I have this and its more poweruful cousin (2.5, ATI) and I must admit, this is a piece of excrement. This is especially evident given the fact it comes with a crippled graphics option which shares your system ram.

We use these under our TV's as media centres. The 2.5ghz, ATI one is half decent as its got its own dedicated GPU, however this one is simply not adequate for modern day simple media purposes. The OSX transitions are jarring, HD videos when streamed off of lovefilm are choppy, especially HD videos played off of the device itself.

Not to mention the codec support for mac systems is not as good as the windows OS. The crippling of its built in intel graphics option is especially evident when you install windows.

If you go for something, go for the soon to be outdated ATI graphics models as apple had decided to replace their entire mac mini line with intel 4000 chips and these are simply deplorable. Don't let the overenthused fanboys fool you, there is NO NEED to have intel graphics in anything other than a netbook these days and even that is pushing it. It is just simply not adequate on a supposed desktop replacement/media device.
MadonnaProject

I have this and its more poweruful cousin (2.5, ATI) and I must admit, … I have this and its more poweruful cousin (2.5, ATI) and I must admit, this is a piece of excrement. This is especially evident given the fact it comes with a crippled graphics option which shares your system ram.We use these under our TV's as media centres. The 2.5ghz, ATI one is half decent as its got its own dedicated GPU, however this one is simply not adequate for modern day simple media purposes. The OSX transitions are jarring, HD videos when streamed off of lovefilm are choppy, especially HD videos played off of the device itself.Not to mention the codec support for mac systems is not as good as the windows OS. The crippling of its built in intel graphics option is especially evident when you install windows.If you go for something, go for the soon to be outdated ATI graphics models as apple had decided to replace their entire mac mini line with intel 4000 chips and these are simply deplorable. Don't let the overenthused fanboys fool you, there is NO NEED to have intel graphics in anything other than a netbook these days and even that is pushing it. It is just simply not adequate on a supposed desktop replacement/media device.



I don't know about specifics of the Mac Mini performance, but I have to say you are very wrong. The Intel chips with HD 4000 are more than adequate for general purpose machines. They are a vast improvement over the previous generation.
Cold because it's the old model and there's now a significantly better 2012 model available with Intel HD 4000 graphics, USB3, 4GB RAM, and newer generation CPU's. (ignoring the apple haters shouting from their soap box).
MadonnaProject

I have this and its more poweruful cousin (2.5, ATI) and I must admit, … I have this and its more poweruful cousin (2.5, ATI) and I must admit, this is a piece of excrement. This is especially evident given the fact it comes with a crippled graphics option which shares your system ram.We use these under our TV's as media centres. The 2.5ghz, ATI one is half decent as its got its own dedicated GPU, however this one is simply not adequate for modern day simple media purposes. The OSX transitions are jarring, HD videos when streamed off of lovefilm are choppy, especially HD videos played off of the device itself.Not to mention the codec support for mac systems is not as good as the windows OS. The crippling of its built in intel graphics option is especially evident when you install windows.If you go for something, go for the soon to be outdated ATI graphics models as apple had decided to replace their entire mac mini line with intel 4000 chips and these are simply deplorable. Don't let the overenthused fanboys fool you, there is NO NEED to have intel graphics in anything other than a netbook these days and even that is pushing it. It is just simply not adequate on a supposed desktop replacement/media device.



That's a load of BS. The HD3000 is perfectly fine for most people. I have a very similar spec in my Macbook Pro (apart from 8GB of ram), and the graphics performance on the desktop is smooth at 1280*800, and perfectly fine with an external monitor at 2560*1600. I tend to run short of ram with PS and other stuff all running constantly too. Can't comment on the streaming as my internet connection isn't fast enough to do HD streaming.

I would recommend a ram upgrade though. 2GB is very stingy, and that is putting you towards the cost of the newer model with the faster processor.
Chinny_racoon

That's a load of BS. The HD3000 is perfectly fine for most people. I have … That's a load of BS. The HD3000 is perfectly fine for most people. I have a very similar spec in my Macbook Pro (apart from 8GB of ram), and the graphics performance on the desktop is smooth at 1280*800, and perfectly fine with an external monitor at 2560*1600. I tend to run short of ram with PS and other stuff all running constantly too. Can't comment on the streaming as my internet connection isn't fast enough to do HD streaming. I would recommend a ram upgrade though. 2GB is very stingy, and that is putting you towards the cost of the newer model with the faster processor.



So your native resolution is 1280x800 and your laptop is capable of outputting at 2560x1600. Have you ever tried running a 720P mkv file, or heaven forbid a 1080P one with maybe messenger or a browser open in the background?

Also if you cannot comment on streaming HD flash or silverlight content then how is my comment BS? It's like the guy above said "I don't know about the specifics of a mac mini performance but you are wrong...." REALLY?

Or is your idiocy as a mac-sheep too much to consider maybe I do have such issues and I am entitled to my opinion as much as you are to yours? (even though I actually own these machines and you are commenting about them through proxy of owning a completely separate machine?). YOU are a load of BS. You can have a geforce from 4 generations ago connected to a high resolution monitor but it doesn't mean it would be practical or fit for purpose of certain things. This is exactly why when you say "intel hd3000" is fine for most people you are talking out of your behind, the same as saying a size sweater XXXL fits most people. Sure, but is it good for practical use?

Grow a brain of your own, don't try to be special though liking a certain company, they're not paying you. What I said was that the ATI mini with 4gb works reasonably well but the intel 3000 2gb one is absolute garbage (although I have upgraded both to 16gb).


Edited by: "MadonnaProject" 27th Oct 2012
New one with better spec is out for £499 retail. Cold deal.
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