APPLE MACBOOK PRO 13 INCH (I5, 2.5GHZ, 4GB, 500GB, OS X LION) £699.99 Delivered @ Zavvi eBay outlet
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APPLE MACBOOK PRO 13 INCH (I5, 2.5GHZ, 4GB, 500GB, OS X LION) £699.99 Delivered @ Zavvi eBay outlet

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Found 16th Oct 2015
I have always been an apple fan even thought prices are high but can you get this model cheaper anywhere else new?
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£700 for a laptop with 4GB of RAM? Is this a joke?
dark_shadow

£700 for a laptop with 4GB of RAM? Is this a joke?



Not a joke, it's Apple.
leeds_united_afc

I have always been an apple fan even thought prices are high but … I have always been an apple fan even thought prices are high but can you get this model cheaper anywhere else new?



Sounds like Zavvi has some really old stock, OS X Lion?

Probably hard to find new anywhere else.
I've not seen this cheaper. Heat added.
MOT.
dark_shadow

£700 for a laptop with 4GB of RAM? Is this a joke?



Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on something that will last me years rather than upgrading every couple of years when my laptop lets me down. Since I switched to macbook the difference in quality is clear, even if I did have to spend big.
2012 machine?

Edit:
Owch!
Edited by: "udhuk" 16th Oct 2015
This can take 16GB which may cost £60-70 from third parties but the issue is that this is still a 2012 laptop. I love OSX but even lean OSX will start to feel a little tired on this hardware soon.
You can plug in a 2.5 inch SSD also but you will bottleneck at about 500MB/s. The latest, less upgradable laptops are now coming with the M.2 SSD's running at 1200MB/s.
This was still a great laptop for it's time but it's time has passed. (I'm typing this on one :-) )

- tonymac
tony3

This can take 16GB which may cost £60-70 from third parties but the issue … This can take 16GB which may cost £60-70 from third parties but the issue is that this is still a 2012 laptop. I love OSX but even lean OSX will start to feel a little tired on this hardware soon.You can plug in a 2.5 inch SSD also but you will bottleneck at about 500MB/s. The latest, less upgradable laptops are now coming with the M.2 SSD's running at 1200MB/s.This was still a great laptop for it's time but it's time has passed. (I'm typing this on one :-) ) - tonymac



Hi Tony!! thanks for ur site... awsome

Edited by: "udhuk" 16th Oct 2015
udhuk

Hi Tony!! thanks for ur site... awsome



It's been fully community driven since 2012. They are awesome! I keep the blog going though :-)
rev6

Not a joke, it's Apple.


Correct first time, this is a joke.
tony3

It's been fully community driven since 2012. They are awesome! I keep the … It's been fully community driven since 2012. They are awesome! I keep the blog going though :-)



The info from the members is great, made a few builds so far, never any big issuses (well I have one with a clover install, but I don't think this would be the place to ask lol). I visit regular to keep upto date
£200 more and access to Higher education store from a friendly student will buy you a current model with mentally fast PCI-E SSD, Retina screen etc...
This is old stock Zavvi are taking the pee at this price.
udhuk

Hi Tony!! thanks for ur site... awsome



Site ?
b1g1an

Site ?



yup, google tonymac
Edited by: "udhuk" 16th Oct 2015
It is a good price actually. And very easy to upgrade RAM,HDD or battery when needed,not like in new Retinas.Also can remove DVD Drive and add another HDD....
udhuk

yup, google tonymac



Some new members on the way tony!
Haha I saw this earlier and declined to post it as I thought it would get torn to shreds
Uridium

This is old stock Zavvi are taking the pee at this price.



It's actually still a current model, though as mentioned already first introduced in 2012. It's a great price compared to buying direct from Apple (or PC World etc.) but the Retina models are far, far better of course.

apple.com/uk/…fig
ezzer72

It's actually still a current model, though as mentioned already first … It's actually still a current model, though as mentioned already first introduced in 2012. It's a great price compared to buying direct from Apple (or PC World etc.) but the Retina models are far, far better of course.http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MD101B/A&step=config#



Not much difference of Retina on 13-inch tbh
udhuk

yup, google tonymac



Cheers
Rimi

It is a good price actually. And very easy to upgrade RAM,HDD or battery … It is a good price actually. And very easy to upgrade RAM,HDD or battery when needed,not like in new Retinas.Also can remove DVD Drive and add another HDD....



Indeed! Hoping my new 15.5 with 2.8 i7, 16Gb, 1Tb and Radeon lasts a while
Apple just arent worth it. Yeah great quality but soon out of date and for the price you'd expect a good few yrs work out of them. I have a laptop bought in 2010 (non apple) still works like a dream for a fraction of the price. This all said it doesnt seem a bad price so heat added
frankkinsey

Apple just arent worth it. Yeah great quality but soon out of date and … Apple just arent worth it. Yeah great quality but soon out of date and for the price you'd expect a good few yrs work out of them. I have a laptop bought in 2010 (non apple) still works like a dream for a fraction of the price. This all said it doesnt seem a bad price so heat added



a 2010 Macbook would also still be perfectly useable and would also be capable of running the latest OSX release El Capitan

Everyone is always quick to judge a Macbook on price alone but look at a current model Macbook pro retina's nearest Windows competitors (in terms of not just spec but build quality also).....so i5, 8gb ram, 1080p+ screen, SSD, Aluminium unibody chassis

you have the Dell XPS13/HP Spectre X360/lenovo X1 Carbon/ Windows Surfacebook.... when spec'd to the same level as a Macbook pro retina 13" these all actually cost around the same price if not slightly more....




Edited by: "Uridium" 16th Oct 2015
Uridium

a 2010 Macbook would also still be perfectly useable and would also be … a 2010 Macbook would also still be perfectly useable and would also be capable of running the latest OSX release El CapitanEveryone is always quick to judge a Macbook on price alone but look at a current model Macbook pro retina's nearest Windows competitors (in terms of not just spec but build quality also).....so i5, 8gb ram, 1080p+ screen, SSD, Aluminium unibody chassisyou have the Dell XPS13/HP Spectre X360/lenovo X1 Carbon/ Windows Surfacebook.... when spec'd to the same level as a Macbook pro retina 13" these all actually cost around the same price if not slightly more....




My missus still uses an Aluminium Macbook late 2008 2.4ghz core 2 duo, upgraded memory to 8gb, fitted 120gb ssd into the dvd rom slot drive spot (OS X El Capitan running from this) and the original 320gb hdd is now used for storage. Still a very useable machine.
tony3

]Hi Tony!! thanks for ur site... awsome


It's been fully community driven since 2012. They are awesome! I keep the blog going though :-)[/quote]

Your site was a big help when I did my first Snow Leopard Hackintosh, many thanks!
the gooner

Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on … Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on something that will last me years rather than upgrading every couple of years when my laptop lets me down. Since I switched to macbook the difference in quality is clear, even if I did have to spend big.



You know, I gotta say. people like you keep chaitng the mantra "something that will last me years". Just what exactly do you mean by this? How will a windows laptop that has arguably the same or better specs from 2012 not last longer? What do you think happens to non apple machines? Do they spontaneously combust? Do they develop cracks on them over time? Do they radiate so over the years they run out of atoms and what's leftover is just half a laptop? This logic just baffles me.

Any laptop, unless misused, from a specific time will last just as long as the other. This seems truer for macs as well, all you can do on them in most cases is watch youtube, browse the internet and send emails. Also when I say watch youtube, obviously I mean tread carefully on 1440P and 4K videos as macs don't seem to have a taste for flash.

Don't get me wrong, I have about 9 macs but really (and I am not criticising the merit of the bloody machine) but this reasoning apple-defenders have completely eludes me. It's like we all know you're trying to say "look, I would rather pay more for a prettier machine which will be shinier longer" but why you put on this facade of utter BS is anyone's guess.
I think its probably just that Windows machines require more maintenance. Nothing that using CCleaner etc won't do but I imagine most people just don't bother and as soon as its 'running slow' its just immediately 'too old'.
Cold as ice
I am not exactly the world's biggest Apple fan but it's hard not to like Macbook Pros. When you compare like for like they are great laptops and you can have Windows and OSX. I have been looking to downsize to 13"-14" recently and all the Windows equivalents are about the same price, or more expensive after Apple Education, and often something is inferior such as Intel HD graphics rather than Macbook's Iris or only a 1080p screen. The only alternatives for me are the Dell XPS13 or Lenovo Carbon but Apples warranty cannot be beaten, especially the 3 year extension price for a student.

This one is way too overpriced for me however. 700 is too much for such an outdated machine.
Edited by: "anlygi" 16th Oct 2015
udhuk

Sounds like Zavvi has some really old stock, OS X Lion?Probably hard to … Sounds like Zavvi has some really old stock, OS X Lion?Probably hard to find new anywhere else.



You can only find refurbs usually like this one >

ink2print.co.uk/col…s-1

Anyway the Macbook in this deal is upgradable to OSX 10.11 El Capitan. OSX Lion is quite old at version 10.7.5.
Yuck, this thing is OLD, heavy, only has 4GB RAM, no SSD, and has more moving parts and less heat management than newer models, along with a rubbish screen.

I feel sorry for people who buy this, expecting something fantastic. New models are a joy to use, but this old clunky thing is horrible. Amazing how quickly it went out of date.
Edited by: "josephmccowie" 16th Oct 2015
Old, heavy, poor battery life, spinning HDD and low-res screen, not worth it these days. These sell used for 400 or so
The hardware in this laptop is disgustingly low end.
frankkinsey

Apple just arent worth it. Yeah great quality but soon out of date and … Apple just arent worth it. Yeah great quality but soon out of date and for the price you'd expect a good few yrs work out of them. I have a laptop bought in 2010 (non apple) still works like a dream for a fraction of the price. This all said it doesnt seem a bad price so heat added



This isn't out of date as it still will run El Capitan. Apple make the operating system as well as the hardware, the OS is optimised to run on the hardware, they only have to cater for around 10-20 models for El Capitan so it runs extremely well. I use Windows 10 and OSX El Capitan everyday in my work and Windows 10 still feels like a beta, and looks dreadful next to OSX. OSX is well designed, very optimised for the hardware it runs on and El Capitan is effectively a rewrite so the best version of OSX since 10.6.8. Microsoft went for a limited free model of Windows 10 as its hand was forced. Windows 10 is an apology for Windows 8.1. The insider release of 10 still hasn't fixed many of the bugs in 10. Windows 8.1 feels like a more stable better system than 10 currently is. 10 will come good, but those icons Jesus they are appalling in comparison to the effort and design put in to OSX.

Is this deal good value for money? Nope, so I voted it cold.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 16th Oct 2015
Gotta agree with MadonnaP here. I'm happily typing this on an 2007 iMac running latest version of OSx but on the desk next to me is a pair of Dell E5400 laptops from 2009 happily running Windows 10 that the family use and abuse around the house. Just because computers reach a certain age, doesn't mean they stop being useful. Admittedly I've had to max out the RAM and put SSD's in everything, but it's all good here. Yes, the Dell's are black plastic and not shiny metal, but they still work really well and Windows 10 is great. But I do still love the iMac, which just keeps on going and is why I haven't felt the need to replace it yet.

Many, many moons ago, I'd be upgrading my PC every two-three years just to keep up and I still remember being heartbroken when I went out and bought my first CD-ROM drive and found out I *still* couldn't run "7th Guest" because my gfx card couldn't cope. But time passes and I think we've kinda plateau'd over the last 5 years and there's more focus now on power-reduction and O/S optimisation as we all become mobile and ditch desktops. Also, not having to replace the families main kit as often, I managed to justify an Alienware laptop as a treat

PS. I'm conveniently ignoring the utter mistake that was our foray into netbooks which are all gathering dust in a cupboard.
My phone has 3 gig of ram!
MadonnaProject

You know, I gotta say. people like you keep chaitng the mantra "something … You know, I gotta say. people like you keep chaitng the mantra "something that will last me years". Just what exactly do you mean by this? How will a windows laptop that has arguably the same or better specs from 2012 not last longer? What do you think happens to non apple machines? Do they spontaneously combust? Do they develop cracks on them over time? Do they radiate so over the years they run out of atoms and what's leftover is just half a laptop? This logic just baffles me.Any laptop, unless misused, from a specific time will last just as long as the other. This seems truer for macs as well, all you can do on them in most cases is watch youtube, browse the internet and send emails. Also when I say watch youtube, obviously I mean tread carefully on 1440P and 4K videos as macs don't seem to have a taste for flash.Don't get me wrong, I have about 9 macs but really (and I am not criticising the merit of the bloody machine) but this reasoning apple-defenders have completely eludes me. It's like we all know you're trying to say "look, I would rather pay more for a prettier machine which will be shinier longer" but why you put on this facade of utter BS is anyone's guess.


Very well said. There are some used thinkpad /latitude deals popping up here every now and again for around £100. Spec wise they are at least matching this Macbook if not better. Is it worth paying 500% more for the fruit logo? apparently some people think so.
the gooner

Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on … Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on something that will last me years rather than upgrading every couple of years when my laptop lets me down. Since I switched to macbook the difference in quality is clear, even if I did have to spend big.



4GB of RAM won't last you very long, standard issue is 8GB these days and future OSX builds are almost certain to use more RAM.
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the gooner

Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on … Depends on what you want from a laptop. I prefer spending big on something that will last me years rather than upgrading every couple of years when my laptop lets me down. Since I switched to macbook the difference in quality is clear, even if I did have to spend big.



​Straight away you'll need to upgrade to an SSD and at least another 4gb of memory then update the OS to get this to 2015 standards...cold from me.
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