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Apple Macbook Pro Retina MJLT2B/A 15.4-Inch Laptop £1608.93 Sold by Discount-Select and Fulfilled by Amazon.

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Found 8th Sep 2015
I've spent the last few months researching a laptop for HD video editing. It needed to be have a fast processor, quick hard drives, 16gb ram, top quality screen and solidly built.

Despite never having a Mac before pretty much every review pointed towards the Macbook Pro being the best solution.

This same version (2015) goes for £1,999.99 on the Apple website and also via John Lewis so seems to be a very good price for a very good product.

Specification

15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
2.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.7GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Intel Iris Pro Graphics + AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB GDDR5 memory
Force Touch trackpad
Backlit Keyboard (British) & User's Guide (English)
Accessory Kit
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Months researching is a heck of a lot of non doing.
Most people work their way through various solutions by doing, experience being of the most importance.
LadyEleanor

Months researching is a heck of a lot of non doing.Most people work their … Months researching is a heck of a lot of non doing.Most people work their way through various solutions by doing, experience being of the most importance.



Unless that experience costs £1600 a time... Not a particularly clever thing to say!
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PC_Dave

Unless that experience costs £1600 a time... Not a particularly clever … Unless that experience costs £1600 a time... Not a particularly clever thing to say!


Yes, that's an awesome opening comment to this thread. I wish I did have the money to buy and test out every high specification laptop to see which suits my needs best.
Edited by: "ipswich78" 8th Sep 2015
And it is Broadwell, making it now a 2 generations old chipset. The new stuff coming out is likely better value!
Edited by: "LadyEleanor" 8th Sep 2015
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LadyEleanor

And it is Broadwell, making it now a 2 generations old chipset.


Indeed, please find me a comparable laptop which ticks all of my requirements as well as this. It still benchmarks exceptionally well compared to laptops running a 'newer' chipset.
Edited by: "ipswich78" 8th Sep 2015
Good price, good reviews, Prime eligible.

As long as it's UK stock with UK keyboard then worth it, even if grey stock with US keyboard the warranty is still worldwide.

This model has only just been refreshed (Mid 2015) so I wouldn't have any hesitation in it being refreshed for another year at least.

Only point to make Ipswich78, is I very much doubt it'll come with a VAT receipt if you're buying for business...
Edited by: "jackdopson2007" 8th Sep 2015
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jackdopson2007

Good price, good reviews, Prime eligible. As long as it's UK stock with … Good price, good reviews, Prime eligible. As long as it's UK stock with UK keyboard then worth it, even if grey stock with US keyboard the warranty is still worldwide.This model has only just been refreshed (Mid 2015) so I wouldn't have any hesitation in it being refreshed for another year at least.Only point to make Ipswich78, is I very much doubt it'll come with a VAT receipt if you're buying for business...


They 'claim' to be UK stock, so will be interesting to see what it is when it arrives. A VAT receipt isn't required though so not an issue. It will be going back if it is a US keyboard.
I've got a U.S. Keyboard MacBook Pro. No issue at all. Then again I already had UK adapter for the power lead spare which are universal.
ipswich78

Indeed, please find me a comparable laptop which ticks all of my … Indeed, please find me a comparable laptop which ticks all of my requirements as well as this. It still benchmarks exceptionally well compared to laptops running a 'newer' chipset.



Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea if there will be a specification bump to the MacBook range, but it might be worth holding off a couple of days and looking into it further.
andymagic

Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea … Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea if there will be a specification bump to the MacBook range, but it might be worth holding off a couple of days and looking into it further.



Will be worth holding but given the recent spec bump of this model it's very unlikely it'll see a refresh...
andymagic

Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea … Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea if there will be a specification bump to the MacBook range, but it might be worth holding off a couple of days and looking into it further.



Unlikely, they've never bumped specs more than twice in a year.
jackdopson2007

Will be worth holding but given the recent spec bump of this model it's … Will be worth holding but given the recent spec bump of this model it's very unlikely it'll see a refresh...



nublets2k

Unlikely, they've never bumped specs more than twice in a year.



That's that question answered then, the last new Mac I bought was in 2012 so haven't needed to look into it any further since
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cantonbean

I've got a U.S. Keyboard MacBook Pro. No issue at all. Then again I … I've got a U.S. Keyboard MacBook Pro. No issue at all. Then again I already had UK adapter for the power lead spare which are universal.


Do you not have a different keyboard layout?
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andymagic

Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea … Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea if there will be a specification bump to the MacBook range, but it might be worth holding off a couple of days and looking into it further.


No one in the public domain knows... It's not being delivered until the end of the week so plenty of time to send it back if something else comes out.
Hmm, I paid £1700 for the 2011 MacBook Pro Retina almost 3yrs ago (2.6ghz i7, 8gb Ram, 512gb PCIe Storage, 1gb nVidia GT650). The machine can perfectly handle 4k editing in FCPX from a Panasonic GH4 perfectly, struggles with two streams of 4k as a multicam. I'd be amazed if another 8gb Ram and a slightly more powerful graphics card would give me much more benefit though? Also, can these machines actually use 2gb of graphics power? where is the bottleneck???
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kirkyuk

Hmm, I paid £1700 for the 2011 MacBook Pro Retina almost 3yrs ago (2.6ghz … Hmm, I paid £1700 for the 2011 MacBook Pro Retina almost 3yrs ago (2.6ghz i7, 8gb Ram, 512gb PCIe Storage, 1gb nVidia GT650). The machine can perfectly handle 4k editing in FCPX from a Panasonic GH4 perfectly, struggles with two streams of 4k as a multicam. I'd be amazed if another 8gb Ram and a slightly more powerful graphics card would give me much more benefit though? Also, can these machines actually use 2gb of graphics power? where is the bottleneck???


I'm not going to pretend i'm an expert, but the processor is different to the 2011 version and as such will run and render quicker. The extra RAM will come into play when running multiple applications and the new flash based hard disks will be a lot quicker. In regards to the graphics power it all depends on weather the software is written to take advantage of it.
ipswich78

I'm not going to pretend i'm an expert, but the processor is different to … I'm not going to pretend i'm an expert, but the processor is different to the 2011 version and as such will run and render quicker. The extra RAM will come into play when running multiple applications and the new flash based hard disks will be a lot quicker. In regards to the graphics power it all depends on weather the software is written to take advantage of it.



The transfer from SSD in the Mid 2012 Retina (Original 15" launch) which was achieving write speeds hovering around 390MB/s and reads topping out at 440MB/s.

On the new Mid 2015 Models use PCIe, you're seeing write speeds of 1.25Gb/s and read of 2Gb/s..... Which is an incredible difference.

Raw bench mark speeds:

Mid 2012 i7 2.7Ghz (top spec) 12225 (Geekbench 3)
Mid 2015 i7 2.8Ghz (top spec) 13905 (Geekbench 3)

So raw performance will be faster, additional RAM for multitasking will be of benefit. It'll future proof the machine in effect.
Edited by: "jackdopson2007" 8th Sep 2015
I'd love one of these but jeez just to expensive.
cold could buy a top end gaming desktop for same price
ipswich78

Do you not have a different keyboard layout?



I think the difference is relatively minor (certainly not enough that I've ever had an issue!) to do £ sign think it's shift or cmd key and 3
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adam0812

cold could buy a top end gaming desktop for same price


Indeed you could but not as portable and battery life isn't a patch on this. I did look at them as an alternative. Also, those gaming laptops look pretty horrific with the logos and multi colour lights coming out of them.
adam0812

cold could buy a top end gaming desktop for same price


Shock news: Not everyone is interested in gaming
andymagic

Shock news: Not everyone is interested in gaming



i thought the sunglasses smiley was enough to indicate sarcasm, clearly not
ipswich78

Indeed you could but not as portable and battery life isn't a patch on … Indeed you could but not as portable and battery life isn't a patch on this. I did look at them as an alternative. Also, those gaming laptops look pretty horrific with the logos and multi colour lights coming out of them.



i was kidding. and yer i agree most gaming laptops look horrific
adam0812

i thought the sunglasses smiley was enough to indicate sarcasm, clearly … i thought the sunglasses smiley was enough to indicate sarcasm, clearly not



Shock news: Not everyone spends half their life learning what all the different smileys mean
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adam0812

i was kidding. and yer i agree most gaming laptops look horrific


Yes, I did miss the sarcasm bit.

What did surprise me though was that a lot of the gaming laptops spec wise were phenomenal however I don't understand what they all look so ostentatious. The look of the thing isn't that important but man those things were ugly.

I am impressed by the way the market is going - offering a pretty powerful laptop which is fully mobile then an extra dock offering more grunt etc. Great idea which I'm surprised more companies haven't jumped on to.
andymagic

Shock news: Not everyone spends half their life learning what all the … Shock news: Not everyone spends half their life learning what all the different smileys mean



a bit of intelligence is all you need pal
ipswich78

Yes, I did miss the sarcasm bit.What did surprise me though was that a … Yes, I did miss the sarcasm bit.What did surprise me though was that a lot of the gaming laptops spec wise were phenomenal however I don't understand what they all look so ostentatious. The look of the thing isn't that important but man those things were ugly.I am impressed by the way the market is going - offering a pretty powerful laptop which is fully mobile then an extra dock offering more grunt etc. Great idea which I'm surprised more companies haven't jumped on to.



razor do a couple of gaming laptops which look similar to macbook, albeit black, but you're paying through the nose for the small form factor, and the specs arent that great.
adam0812

a bit of intelligence is all you need pal



Oh, the irony...
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adam0812

razor do a couple of gaming laptops which look similar to macbook, albeit … razor do a couple of gaming laptops which look similar to macbook, albeit black, but you're paying through the nose for the small form factor, and the specs arent that great.


That's the thing, despite a lot of anti Apple stuff (myself included in the past) it does appear to be the best all rounder. I did look at the Razor but they only seemed to be available in the US? Schenker was another I was looking at but £ for £ seemed to be about the same as the MBP - however I am also conscious of resale value.
ipswich78

That's the thing, despite a lot of anti Apple stuff (myself included in … That's the thing, despite a lot of anti Apple stuff (myself included in the past) it does appear to be the best all rounder. I did look at the Razor but they only seemed to be available in the US? Schenker was another I was looking at but £ for £ seemed to be about the same as the MBP - however I am also conscious of resale value.



i have no doubt that for general productivity macbooks are better
andymagic

Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea … Apple are releasing some new stuff tomorrow (9th September), I've no idea if there will be a specification bump to the MacBook range, but it might be worth holding off a couple of days and looking into it further.


Tomorrow will be all about the iPhone, Pad and possibly TV. I'd expect the next Mac bump to likely be with a Skylake processor and is sure to be next year now.

I used to use the Edu link for my Macs, I think it is dead now though.
adam0812

a bit of intelligence is all you need pal



Since when did sunglasses mean sarcasm?
WBRacing

Tomorrow will be all about the iPhone, Pad and possibly TV. I'd expect … Tomorrow will be all about the iPhone, Pad and possibly TV. I'd expect the next Mac bump to likely be with a Skylake processor and is sure to be next year now. I used to use the Edu link for my Macs, I think it is dead now though.


I'm interested to see what they do with ATV as it's been ages since the last update and that was only minor. As I said, I've had idea about any spec bumps on the Mac/Book range.
ipswich78

That's the thing, despite a lot of anti Apple stuff (myself included in … That's the thing, despite a lot of anti Apple stuff (myself included in the past) it does appear to be the best all rounder. I did look at the Razor but they only seemed to be available in the US? Schenker was another I was looking at but £ for £ seemed to be about the same as the MBP - however I am also conscious of resale value.



​resell value. Same as pc. I remember I have bought Mac book air 2010. After few hours of used for a week. It's terrible os. I want to sell for less than 30% of retail price
But no one want it. So much for resale value. I do get a lot of offer for Apple product less than 30% discount. Atm I have late Mac book pro 2013. Top of the range running with Windows 10. I mostly use Windows. I bought it for half price of retail value
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icorrupt

​resell value. Same as pc. I remember I have bought Mac book air 2010. A … ​resell value. Same as pc. I remember I have bought Mac book air 2010. After few hours of used for a week. It's terrible os. I want to sell for less than 30% of retail priceBut no one want it. So much for resale value. I do get a lot of offer for Apple product less than 30% discount. Atm I have late Mac book pro 2013. Top of the range running with Windows 10. I mostly use Windows. I bought it for half price of retail value


That's just not true. All you need to do is look on eBay and compare a 2014 MacBook Pro to a similar Dell I.e XPS 15 from 2014.
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