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Archos 13 Netbook (Dual Core, WXGA, Win 7 Pre, BT) - £219.23 Delivered @ Ebuyer
Archos 13 Netbook (Dual Core, WXGA, Win 7 Pre, BT) - £219.23 Delivered @ Ebuyer

Archos 13 Netbook (Dual Core, WXGA, Win 7 Pre, BT) - £219.23 Delivered @ Ebuyer

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Ok - so my main gripes with netbooks is the 1024 x 600 screen and typically single core processor. This seems to rectify this with a WXGA screen and dual core atom. Arguably the processor is a bit outdated now and the size is heading toward laptop territory - but still quite good value at less than 220?

Specs:
Processor
•Intel Atom D510 1.6GHz,
•533 MHz FSB,
•1MB L2 cache
Memory
•1GB DDR RAM
Hard Drive
•160GB SATA
Optical Drive
•None
Software
•Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium
Display
•13.3" Archos WXGA,
•16:9 format,
•Resolution: 1366 x 768
Graphics
•Intel GMA
Audio
•Integrated Speakers
Input Devices
•Keyboard and Touchpad
Networking
•Ethernet 10/100
•Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n
•Bluetooth 2.0
Power Supply
•Lithium Ion Battery
•Up to 4.5 hours battery life
Dimensions
•Weight 1.6kg
Interfaces
•3 x USB 2.0
•1 x VGA out,
•1 x Headphone/speaker/line-out jack,
•1 x Microphone-in jack
Expansion
•3-in-1 card reader (SD, SDHC,MMC)
Warranty / Miscellaneous
•1 Year Manufacturer Warranty
•1.3Mp Camera

51 Comments

Heading towards laptop territory? This is well into it with that size and weight.

On the one hand it's really underpowered, but on the other, 13-inch laptops normally carry quite a premium as they're a good balance of portability and screen size. Probably fine for basic use.

My main concerns would be:
- 1GB RAM with Windows 7 Home Premium. Doesn't sound like a good combination.
- Archos. Obviously they're not known for their laptops, so it's hard to know what to expect from the build quality, keyboard, and general finish of the thing. With Archos calling it a netbook, is it even a given that the RAM can be upgraded? Could be soldered in.

I wonder if it's a rebadged version of another brand?
Edited by: "Samme" 24th Mar 2011

i agree re: netbooks, my wifes dell 1011 is pretty slow and runs xp, but my acer ferrari would slaughter this large netbook, 11.6 in screen but much faster processor, better graphics, more memory and fast enough to run win 7 64bit and has external port to add seperate graphics booster card so you can run most games on mid to highish settings

I don't know why manufacturers limit Netbooks so much.

Most are like this: only 1GB of RAM, low res screen, no gigabit lan, poor graphics, single core, no HDMI (not even mini)...

This one is better specced than most & v.well priced.

...because the battery life won't be nearly as good. Ok, they could provide 2Gb RAM, and maybe an HDMI port. But if the netbook provided all the things you mention, it wouldn't be a netbook, it would be a laptop.

I get over 9 hours out of mine running Linux. Can browse happily on it, and even program on it. It's used for commutes and when I go travelling. So despite its low specs, it fits a purpose.

IMO if it's got a 13 inch screen, it's a laptop.

K1LLER HORNET

Most are like this: only 1GB of RAM, low res screen, no gigabit lan, poor … Most are like this: only 1GB of RAM, low res screen, no gigabit lan, poor graphics, single core, no HDMI (not even mini)...


The RAM can be upgraded, usually. But no gigabit is killing this deal. The clue is in the name: *net*book. If it does not have a decent CPU or hard disk, you could still work remotely with a good network connection. But no, they decide to ruin it on that side, too.

Good price, but not a convincing deal.

MrPuddington

The RAM can be upgraded, usually. But no gigabit is killing this deal. … The RAM can be upgraded, usually. But no gigabit is killing this deal. The clue is in the name: *net*book. If it does not have a decent CPU or hard disk, you could still work remotely with a good network connection. But no, they decide to ruin it on that side, too.Good price, but not a convincing deal.



I think killing this deal might be a little extreme. What's the real world difference between gigabit lan and 100mbit lan? Especially for remote working or internet use, you're unlikely to have a connection to the outside world that could take advantage of gigabit (or even 100mbit).

Moon on a stick..

royals

i agree re: netbooks, my wifes dell 1011 is pretty slow and runs xp, but … i agree re: netbooks, my wifes dell 1011 is pretty slow and runs xp, but my acer ferrari would slaughter this large netbook, 11.6 in screen but much faster processor, better graphics, more memory and fast enough to run win 7 64bit and has external port to add seperate graphics booster card so you can run most games on mid to highish settings



Please explain further...... I'm intrigued!

Good price for a NETBOOK, if you want all the things mentioned above then you need a LAPTOP! Hot from me

I have one of these and it's great.Might not be the fastest or for gaming but does everything I want without a problem. I use mine for CAD, graphics and movies. Much lighter than a laptop and to my eye, very good looking. I have an Acer 8.9" and a 15.6 Lenovo. This Archos fits nicely between the two and is a good compromise between the two formats. Only things I don't like is the trackpad having no change in surface feel to the surrounding area, and the ledge at the sides over the USB and other connections. Imo 11.6 screens are the Goldilocks size but this is just that bit better for my needs. Bargain at this price.

seaspray

I have one of these and it's great.Might not be the fastest or for gaming … I have one of these and it's great.Might not be the fastest or for gaming but does everything I want without a problem. I use mine for CAD, graphics and movies. Much lighter than a laptop and to my eye, very good looking. I have an Acer 8.9" and a 15.6 Lenovo. This Archos fits nicely between the two and is a good compromise between the two formats. Only things I don't like is the trackpad having no change in surface feel to the surrounding area, and the ledge at the sides over the USB and other connections. Imo 11.6 screens are the Goldilocks size but this is just that bit better for my needs. Bargain at this price.



If you've got one, do you know if it's possible to upgrade the RAM?

They don't even have a mention of this on the Archos website, closest is the Archos 10 (which has max 1 gb)
Edited by: "Darkman" 24th Mar 2011

achmelvic

If you've got one, do you know if it's possible to upgrade the RAM?


If u bothered to read the threads, no6 say u can!

mikeswrx02

If u bothered to read the threads, no6 say u can!



It says "The RAM can be upgraded, usually." this is a generalisation about most netbooks and doesn't confirm this actual model can be updated. I'd also like to know

Apparently made big news in France last year, was on sale for Eur 399

stuff.tv/new…nce

Anyone ordered/ordering?

wolfman

But if the netbook provided all the things you mention, it wouldn't be a … But if the netbook provided all the things you mention, it wouldn't be a netbook, it would be a laptop.



Ummm, no.

There are netbooks with 2GB of RAM, 1366x768 screen, gigabit lan, usb 3.0, ION2 graphics, dual core. Have not seen one with HDMI, but surely adding a mini HDMI port wouldn't be too hard.

It obviously all comes down to cost. I guess Licensing Gigabit, USB 3.0, HDMI, & adding ION2 must all add up.

Hopefully those specs will become standard soon.

K1LLER HORNET

Anyone ordered/ordering?Ummm, no.There are netbooks with 2GB of RAM, … Anyone ordered/ordering?Ummm, no.There are netbooks with 2GB of RAM, 1366x768 screen, gigabit lan, usb 3.0, ION2 graphics, dual core. Have not seen one with HDMI, but surely adding a mini HDMI port wouldn't be too hard.It obviously all comes down to cost. I guess Licensing Gigabit, USB 3.0, HDMI, & adding ION2 must all add up.Hopefully those specs will become standard soon.



My Dell Mini 10 came with 1366x768 screen, HDMI, TV tuner, Internal 3g etc for the same price last year. Not needed the extra CPU power really.

K1LLER HORNET

There are netbooks with 2GB of RAM, 1366x768 screen, gigabit lan, usb … There are netbooks with 2GB of RAM, 1366x768 screen, gigabit lan, usb 3.0, ION2 graphics, dual core. Have not seen one with HDMI, but surely adding a mini HDMI port wouldn't be too hard.



Indeed! My MSI U230 has a full sized HDMI port, 2gb ram, 1366x768 12" screen, HD video.

autolesbona

Please explain further...... I'm intrigued!



The Acer Ferrari One has an AMD XGP port on the side, into which you can plug a compatible XGP external graphics card. It's mainly for outputting high-quality video to external displays, although I don't know if you can use it to boost the netbook's own graphics.

There's a video here.

I'd be curious to know whether royals has got one of these XGP cards, as they weren't out when the Acer Ferrari was released, and the technology seems to have been forgotten and abandoned. I haven't seen anyone stock them, and a Google search usually reveals threads asking if they even exist.

RJK3

Indeed! My MSI U230 has a full sized HDMI port, 2gb ram, 1366x768 12" … Indeed! My MSI U230 has a full sized HDMI port, 2gb ram, 1366x768 12" screen, HD video.



Looks like a great machine. Wish it could handle 1080p video.
For that reason, I think I'll be grabbing one of these: saveonlaptops.co.uk/ASU…tml

Shame really, i'm an Archos fan but this is another product from them that just fails to hit the bullseye. I guess the reason that it has no HDMI socket is that it does not have HD-capable graphics, such as Nvidia's Ion - so it's not for me. For very basic surfing/email etc with the added bonuses of a 13.3" screen and good battery life, it's ok i suppose for £220. IMHO better value is the MSI Wind refurbs on HUKD a few days ago for £125 ish (if i recall correctly). They'd do a similar job or arguably an even better one, than the Archos. Not voted hot or cold on this one.

Along with others I'm curious to know whether the ram can be upgraded on this specific model. Unusually there seems to be no information at all on the net. I certainly wouldn't want to run win7 hp with 1 gig of ddr2.

seaspray

I have one of these and it's great.Might not be the fastest or for gaming … I have one of these and it's great.Might not be the fastest or for gaming but does everything I want without a problem. I use mine for CAD, graphics and movies. Much lighter than a laptop and to my eye, very good looking. I have an Acer 8.9" and a 15.6 Lenovo. This Archos fits nicely between the two and is a good compromise between the two formats. Only things I don't like is the trackpad having no change in surface feel to the surrounding area, and the ledge at the sides over the USB and other connections. Imo 11.6 screens are the Goldilocks size but this is just that bit better for my needs. Bargain at this price.



If you don't mind me asking have you upgraded the memory or hard disk on this netbook?

Also is there an upgrade access panel on the bottom of the netbook?

Just wanted to ask as there is literally b*gger all information on it on the internet

truebeliever

Along with others I'm curious to know whether the ram can be upgraded on … Along with others I'm curious to know whether the ram can be upgraded on this specific model. Unusually there seems to be no information at all on the net. I certainly wouldn't want to run win7 hp with 1 gig of ddr2.



Agree - that's the deal breaker here IMHO.

Scotty Boy

If you don't mind me asking have you upgraded the memory or hard disk on … If you don't mind me asking have you upgraded the memory or hard disk on this netbook?Also is there an upgrade access panel on the bottom of the netbook?Just wanted to ask as there is literally b*gger all information on it on the internet



I've not upgraded the ram, not felt the need, appreciate it would be faster though.
I did upgrade the ram on the Acer netbook, that only started out with 512mb so was worth doing, I would suspect this would be a similar sort of strip down on the Archos. There are no access panels on the bottom, just a series of screws around the whole of the base. The ram can be seen through one of the bottom vents. Funnily enough, there is one small access panel, for a GPS module.
Probably the same applies to the hard drive, ie a fair bit of disassembly.
As you say, very little info around concerning this unit. I had a look at mine this morning and when I realized it wouldn’t be an easy task to upgrade, I had a good look around, nothing, not even on the Archos site.
This would suit someone who felt the standard 10” offerings were just a bit too small but still wanted something a little lighter that a laptop.
Sorry I couldn’t be more help.

seaspray

I've not upgraded the ram, not felt the need, appreciate it would be … I've not upgraded the ram, not felt the need, appreciate it would be faster though.I did upgrade the ram on the Acer netbook, that only started out with 512mb so was worth doing, I would suspect this would be a similar sort of strip down on the Archos. There are no access panels on the bottom, just a series of screws around the whole of the base. The ram can be seen through one of the bottom vents. Funnily enough, there is one small access panel, for a GPS module.Probably the same applies to the hard drive, ie a fair bit of disassembly.As you say, very little info around concerning this unit. I had a look at mine this morning and when I realized it wouldn’t be an easy task to upgrade, I had a good look around, nothing, not even on the Archos site.This would suit someone who felt the standard 10” offerings were just a bit too small but still wanted something a little lighter that a laptop.Sorry I couldn’t be more help.



Whats the fan noise like? does it always come on?

seaspray

This would suit someone who felt the standard 10” offerings were just a b … This would suit someone who felt the standard 10” offerings were just a bit too small but still wanted something a little lighter that a laptop.Sorry I couldn’t be more help.



No probs and thanks for posting back

Can Anyone Recommend the best laptop around £400 for business use - just want a fast processor, Windows 7 , 4GB+ Memory and minimal bloatware to run some fairly memory hungry business applications and for web browsing not bothered about graphics/sound etc - really appreciate your expertise as it is a bit of a minefield out there to us non techies....!!

mikeswrx02

Whats the fan noise like? does it always come on?

The fan noise is almost non exixtent and doesn't come on that much anyway. Not a problem , even when we run it on our boat with a cabin temperature touching 40 C. I think it's the quietest machine I've ever had.

Darkman

My Dell Mini 10 came with 1366x768 screen, HDMI, TV tuner, Internal 3g … My Dell Mini 10 came with 1366x768 screen, HDMI, TV tuner, Internal 3g etc for the same price last year. Not needed the extra CPU power really.



When I eventually replace my Acer A150, I want a net book that's still small, with a higher resolution screen and a HDMI output.
I see the netbook as a portable device for use travelling. So it's important to keep the small size. Also as LCD TVs slowly start taking over in hotels, the HDMI connection will be useful for hooking up to large screen.

z909

When I eventually replace my Acer A150, I want a net book that's still … When I eventually replace my Acer A150, I want a net book that's still small, with a higher resolution screen and a HDMI output. I see the netbook as a portable device for use travelling. So it's important to keep the small size. Also as LCD TVs slowly start taking over in hotels, the HDMI connection will be useful for hooking up to large screen.



Fully agree m8ty. For futureproofing purposes, i recommend not to consider any netbook/notebook without HDMI, dual core cpu and an ability to play HD quality video, unless the price is so cheap it's virtually being given away i.e circa £100 - £130.

K1LLER HORNET

Looks like a great machine. Wish it could handle 1080p video.For that … Looks like a great machine. Wish it could handle 1080p video.For that reason, I think I'll be grabbing one of these: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ASUS_UL30A-QX131V_678201.html



Two very different machines though The U230 is underclocked to prevent heat issues. I'm trying out Ubuntu, and can play Big Buck Rabbit fine 1080p in VLC (not using proprietary ATI drivers, have GPU acceleration on in VLC and deblocking skip set to ALL).

Still, if you require a machine that can consistently do 1080p without fuss, then the U230 isn't it. The screen can display better than 720p, but it needs to be plugged in to be powerful enough (unless you go into bios to make it full power on battery which they warn you not to do). Outputting to a 1080P screen means a bit of cable mess and isn't so convenient.

topazz

Fully agree m8ty. For futureproofing purposes, i recommend not to … Fully agree m8ty. For futureproofing purposes, i recommend not to consider any netbook/notebook without HDMI, dual core cpu and an ability to play HD quality video, unless the price is so cheap it's virtually being given away i.e circa £100 - £130.



Agree with both of you but at the same time if your on a tight budget then this is a fairly decent option to consider (better than a smaller 10" netbook IMHO) - I know a couple of mates have already ordered them from eBuyer but much like myself they are a bit wary about the upgrade options (memory, hard disk & wireless card) that it can take.

If the memory can be upgraded - which does not seem entirely clear - has it one or two slots - is one soldered - can it take 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 8 gig max?

seaspray

mikeswrx02 Whats the fan noise like? does it always come on?The fan noise … mikeswrx02 Whats the fan noise like? does it always come on?The fan noise is almost non exixtent and doesn't come on that much anyway. Not a problem , even when we run it on our boat with a cabin temperature touching 40 C. I think it's the quietest machine I've ever had.



Any sort of multi-tasking causes the the fan to run fairly noisily, and very hot - and that's on a hard surface, let alone on a duvet, cushion, etc.

Maybe as you were on a boat you couldn't hear it.

I don't think 1GB is enough to stop W7 lagging pretty badly.

K1LLER HORNET

I don't know why manufacturers limit Netbooks so much.Most are like this: … I don't know why manufacturers limit Netbooks so much.Most are like this: only 1GB of RAM, low res screen, no gigabit lan, poor graphics, single core, no HDMI (not even mini)...This one is better specced than most & v.well priced.



If you look at the last image on the ebuyer site, the casing has what looks like a blocked off HDMI output, so maybe there is one on another model out there somewhere?

ibiza

If the memory can be upgraded - which does not seem entirely clear - has … If the memory can be upgraded - which does not seem entirely clear - has it one or two slots - is one soldered - can it take 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 8 gig max?



all I've found about memory is the link below, don't know if its right but it says 1GB nothing about maximum and N/A for slot
kikatek.com/pro…zUz


Edited by: "chalk" 31st Mar 2011

Its not even listed on their site - so discontinued. But there is not even a reference for support on the Archos site either.
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