Arla Semi Skimmed Organic Free Range Milk, 2 litres (3.52 pints) for £1.25 at Asda.
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Arla Semi Skimmed Organic Free Range Milk, 2 litres (3.52 pints) for £1.25 at Asda.

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Edited by:"MarkShopper"Found 5th Nov
This is £1.75 most places. Asda are not listing it as a promotion so I guess it is their normal price, but at £1.25 it works out cheaper than their own brand.

You can read more about the animal welfare and health benefits of organic milk here: soilassociation.org/org…lk/

and about this milk here: arlafoods.co.uk/bra…lk/

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Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are still artificially impregnating. Their babies are taken from them and the male calves are slaughtered. The mother Cows are sent to slaughter when their milk production declines.
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Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are still artificially impregnating. Their babies are taken from them and the male calves are slaughtered. The mother Cows are sent to slaughter when their milk production declines.

ankitpatel1235 m ago

Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are …Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are still artificially impregnating. Their babies are taken from them and the male calves are slaughtered. The mother Cows are sent to slaughter when their milk production declines.


Please suggest a "better" alternative of milk that most of the country can access.

ankitpatel12327 m ago

Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are …Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are still artificially impregnating. Their babies are taken from them and the male calves are slaughtered. The mother Cows are sent to slaughter when their milk production declines.


Have you got some sources you can share with me please? I am interested in learning more.

Great price OP for organic milk will buy next time at asda

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ankitpatel1231 h, 0 m ago

Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are …Free range doesn't mean anything for the welfare of animals. They are still artificially impregnating. Their babies are taken from them and the male calves are slaughtered. The mother Cows are sent to slaughter when their milk production declines.



Organic does mean something, as the soil association put it : "Unlike many other farming systems, organic cows spend much of their lives outdoors where they can graze naturally on a diet of grass. Animals are raised without the routine, preventative use of antibiotics and wormers and they graze naturally on a GM-free diet. Organic dairy cows are generally not pushed to their milk producing limits in the same way other cows can be. Average yields in organic milk production are around a quarter less than in intensive production."

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MadeDixonsCry58 m ago

Please suggest a "better" alternative of milk that most of the country can …Please suggest a "better" alternative of milk that most of the country can access.



There are products like soya milk if you don't mind the taste and expense, but I believe most of that is imported from south America where rainforests are cleared to grow it, and then there are the environmental impacts of transportation.

MadeDixonsCry1 h, 16 m ago

Please suggest a "better" alternative of milk that most of the country can …Please suggest a "better" alternative of milk that most of the country can access.

Plant based milk. Cows milk is designed specifically for calves.

mi5tery1 h, 2 m ago

Have you got some sources you can share with me please? I am interested …Have you got some sources you can share with me please? I am interested in learning more.

If you read the links about free range on the Op, it states nothing about how they impregnate Cows, what happens to the calves and how old the Cows live until. Because they want to hide the truth.
I had to post on this thread because the OP, had links to half-truths.
Edited by: "ankitpatel123" 5th Nov

MarkShopper26 m ago

Organic does mean something, as the soil association put it : "Unlike many …Organic does mean something, as the soil association put it : "Unlike many other farming systems, organic cows spend much of their lives outdoors where they can graze naturally on a diet of grass. Animals are raised without the routine, preventative use of antibiotics and wormers and they graze naturally on a GM-free diet. Organic dairy cows are generally not pushed to their milk producing limits in the same way other cows can be. Average yields in organic milk production are around a quarter less than in intensive production."

Are the calves not taken away from their mothers? What happens to the male calves?

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ankitpatel12312 m ago

Plant based milk. Cows milk is designed specifically for calves.



Can you provide a link to such a product please with a similar assessment of environmental impact?

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ankitpatel1239 m ago

Are the calves not taken away from their mothers? What happens to the male …Are the calves not taken away from their mothers? What happens to the male calves?



I don't know, and like you I am concerned about these issues. The purpose of this deal was to suggest a product better for animal welfare than the alternative that the vast majority of people, including vegetarians, drink instead: non-organic milk.

ankitpatel12318 m ago

Plant based milk. Cows milk is designed specifically for calves.



We have canine teeth. We are specifically designed to eat meat, like calves.

MarkShopper6 m ago

I don't know, and like you I am concerned about these issues. The purpose …I don't know, and like you I am concerned about these issues. The purpose of this deal was to suggest a product better for animal welfare than the alternative that the vast majority of people, including vegetarians, drink instead: non-organic milk.



Honestly, organic is the best mass-accessible way. The best option would be to purchase from a farm that you personally know cares for their animals.

MadeDixonsCry41 m ago

We have canine teeth. We are specifically designed to eat meat, like …We have canine teeth. We are specifically designed to eat meat, like calves.

What are you talking about?
Besides Hippos have the largest canines and are herbivores. Gorillas have bigger canines than us.

ankitpatel12354 m ago

Are the calves not taken away from their mothers? What happens to the male …Are the calves not taken away from their mothers? What happens to the male calves?


Fed on milk and raised for veal.

Seems like by the whingers on here I should just curl up die because it's from an animal.

I just wonder if they have the same consideration when they put thier veggies on a chopping board and cut them up.

They are living things aswell are they not?

MarkShopper3 h, 1 m ago

Organic does mean something, as the soil association put it : "Unlike many …Organic does mean something, as the soil association put it : "Unlike many other farming systems, organic cows spend much of their lives outdoors where they can graze naturally on a diet of grass. Animals are raised without the routine, preventative use of antibiotics and wormers and they graze naturally on a GM-free diet. Organic dairy cows are generally not pushed to their milk producing limits in the same way other cows can be. Average yields in organic milk production are around a quarter less than in intensive production."


I've read that if the animal needs medication they have a very limited pallet of antibiotics and treatments to use, as many will mean that the animal or its produce can't be classed as organic.

robin585856 m ago

Seems like by the whingers on here I should just curl up die because it's …Seems like by the whingers on here I should just curl up die because it's from an animal. I just wonder if they have the same consideration when they put thier veggies on a chopping board and cut them up. They are living things aswell are they not?


Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an accessible facet, without any form of moral consequence.

You're a solipsistic idiot mate, go back into your cave you bluddy troglodyte, the world has move on considerably since your knuckle dragging kind roamed.

BIGUSHEADUS1 h, 16 m ago

I've read that if the animal needs medication they have a very limited …I've read that if the animal needs medication they have a very limited pallet of antibiotics and treatments to use, as many will mean that the animal or its produce can't be classed as organic.


I believe that. It's like saying we should not be vaccinated or use cars because we want to be organically raised. I just want real animals fed by reals food and cared for. That's too expensive to supply the demand so it'll never happen unless I become a farmer.

I'm out of here due to sanctimony overload.

robin58583 h, 12 m ago

Seems like by the whingers on here I should just curl up die because it's …Seems like by the whingers on here I should just curl up die because it's from an animal. I just wonder if they have the same consideration when they put thier veggies on a chopping board and cut them up. They are living things aswell are they not?

Chopping up a carrot is the same as slitting an animal's throut lol. So a fireman would save a human, then the dog, the go back and save the aloe Vera plant

Any taste difference between this and the standard supermarket milk
Edited by: "cityfais" 5th Nov

BIGUSHEADUS2 h, 22 m ago

Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an …Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an accessible facet, without any form of moral consequence. You're a solipsistic idiot mate, go back into your cave you bluddy troglodyte, the world has move on considerably since your knuckle dragging kind roamed.


This was a shopping forum the last time i checked chill out

MarkShopper5 h, 0 m ago

I don't know, and like you I am concerned about these issues. The purpose …I don't know, and like you I am concerned about these issues. The purpose of this deal was to suggest a product better for animal welfare than the alternative that the vast majority of people, including vegetarians, drink instead: non-organic milk.

Yes it's better for the animal but not that much better. Male calves are useless to the farmer so they are slaughtered at 6 weeks old (and in some farms killed soon after birth for some reason). This is because they wouldn't grow as fast and as large as the genetically selected Cows for meat.

ankitpatel12310 m ago

Yes it's better for the animal but not that much better. Male calves are …Yes it's better for the animal but not that much better. Male calves are useless to the farmer so they are slaughtered at 6 weeks old (and in some farms killed soon after birth for some reason). This is because they wouldn't grow as fast and as large as the genetically selected Cows for meat.



Honestly, what's the point of a chicken if humans can't eat their meat or eggs?

What's the point of cows if we can't eat those lovely rare steaks or have tasty dairy ice cream and whey protein? It's not like we need more methane to increase the hole in the ozone layer, or build houses with cowpats !

Also pops up in Tesco on special at £1.25 quite regularly.

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ankitpatel1231 h, 7 m ago

Yes it's better for the animal but not that much better. Male calves are …Yes it's better for the animal but not that much better. Male calves are useless to the farmer so they are slaughtered at 6 weeks old (and in some farms killed soon after birth for some reason). This is because they wouldn't grow as fast and as large as the genetically selected Cows for meat.



By all means campaign on those issues, but I do not see people giving up milk any time soon as it is tasty, healthy and - for people who have given up meat - an important part of vegetarian's diets. I don't see people stopping drinking a cup of tea or a cafe latte, or not putting milk on their morning Weetabix. Milk production will continue, but I don't think it needs to be a 'race to the bottom' in terms of welfare standards and I just thinking buying organic milk rather than 'normal' milk is a little step we can take.

If you would like to post a link to an alternative please do but in my experience these don't taste the same, are expensive and come with their own ethical problems such as rain-forest being cleared to grow soya.

MarkShopper22 m ago

By all means campaign on those issues, but I do not see people giving up …By all means campaign on those issues, but I do not see people giving up milk any time soon as it is tasty, healthy and - for people who have given up meat - an important part of vegetarian's diets. I don't see people stopping drinking a cup of tea or a cafe latte, or not putting milk on their morning Weetabix. Milk production will continue, but I don't think it needs to be a 'race to the bottom' in terms of welfare standards and I just thinking buying organic milk rather than 'normal' milk is a little step we can take. If you would like to post a link to an alternative please do but in my experience these don't taste the same, are expensive and come with their own ethical problems such as rain-forest being cleared to grow soya.

Milk contains cholesterol and hormones. Yes I know it's more expensive but there are many alternatives other than soya milk such as Almond milk, Cashew milk, Oat milk etc.
I felt like I needed to post because of you're animal welfare link.
You're on the right track though, the way things are now is horrible for the animals.

The creator of the organic craze:

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Not much cheaper than asda own brand as that is £1.50 for 4 pints. This is just over 3.5 pints

MadeDixonsCry1 h, 24 m ago

Honestly, what's the point of a chicken if humans can't eat their meat or …Honestly, what's the point of a chicken if humans can't eat their meat or eggs?What's the point of cows if we can't eat those lovely rare steaks or have tasty dairy ice cream and whey protein? It's not like we need more methane to increase the hole in the ozone layer, or build houses with cowpats !

Didn't it occur to you that they don't exist for us to exploit? I don't know what you mean with that last sentence because Cows produce a lot of methane and by breeding them they are producing more methane.

I cannot believe a innocent milk deal has turned into some sort of animal welfare debate with so many angry people telling other people whats right or wrong and what to eat or drink

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ankitpatel12356 m ago

Didn't it occur to you that they don't exist for us to exploit? I don't …Didn't it occur to you that they don't exist for us to exploit? I don't know what you mean with that last sentence because Cows produce a lot of methane and by breeding them they are producing more methane.



Jokes aside, I don't think they should be exploited. I think they should be cared for, their milk given to their calves and any leftovers we should take. I don't think we should destroy forestry just to farm soya. But that is a utopia we will only reach of we all become farmers or cut down on our eating habits. There is no need to eat meat every day.

BIGUSHEADUS4 h, 58 m ago

Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an …Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an accessible facet, without any form of moral consequence. You're a solipsistic idiot mate, go back into your cave you bluddy troglodyte, the world has move on considerably since your knuckle dragging kind roamed.


Another supercilious moralistic carrot munching bleeding heart liberal

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ankitpatel1231 h, 13 m ago

Milk contains cholesterol and hormones. Yes I know it's more expensive but …Milk contains cholesterol and hormones. Yes I know it's more expensive but there are many alternatives other than soya milk such as Almond milk, Cashew milk, Oat milk etc.I felt like I needed to post because of you're animal welfare link.You're on the right track though, the way things are now is horrible for the animals.



It's good to debate the issues as they are fairly complex and there are no simple answers. Taking the first on your list, almond milk. It takes a vast amount of water to grow those and so we need to think about the impact of droughts, drilling, and insecticide use, as well as land for the plantations and the environmental impact of that, see theguardian.com/lif…net Reading that article it is hard to see how importing almonds from the US is a very sustainable, especially if people were to move to this from diary en masse.

BIGUSHEADUS7 h, 19 m ago

Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an …Another hedonistic utilitarian who sees anything and everything as an accessible facet, without any form of moral consequence. You're a solipsistic idiot mate, go back into your cave you bluddy troglodyte, the world has move on considerably since your knuckle dragging kind roamed.

I do have a moral compass. I buy as little meat as possible and buy as much of that reposibly.

But you show why people like you never win an argument because you don't debate but spit bile to beat a opinion you don't like down.

You are the knuckle dragger not me. At least I will talk and discuss.

Plus a vegetable or fruit is a living thing even though by your definition it's a lower form of life not worthy of even your consideration. ​

I have just become a Fruitarian after reading this thread

Of course while we're all bandying around meat eating vs vegetablism, this reminded me of reading of yet another non study to be taken with a pinch of salt (disclaimer - I am a meat man, organic and free range where poss)...

"Vegetarians more likely to show signs of depression, finds study"
Edited by: "meherenow" 6th Nov

ankitpatel12317 h, 2 m ago

Plant based milk. Cows milk is designed specifically for calves.


Hi Ankit. Are you a Hindu and are your replies tilted to one side because of your personal religious belief? Please don't take me wrong, just being curious.

Human beings have been raised on Cow's milks for thousands of years. It's cheap, sustainable, suitable for most people & has all the benefits of most food supplements (calcium, vitamins, vitamin D etc) packed in it. The same cannot be said about the alternatives (plant based milk) you've suggested, specially when the effort that goes into creating that plant-based milk, resources used & the artificial ingredients added to make it nutritionally viable.

Organic milk is a bonus, as there's less suffering for the animal & better quality of milk produced - Compared to what else in on offer.
Edited by: "no_Sunshine" 6th Nov
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