Asrock H81M-HDS socket 1150 - perfect for an Intel g3258 @ ebuyer
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Asrock H81M-HDS socket 1150 - perfect for an Intel g3258 @ ebuyer

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Found 21st Jul 2014
*Ebuyer stock confirmed as compatible with g3258 without need for bios update

Price varies each day between £33 and £39

I currently have free next day delivery this month which other people may also have the benefit of too, otherwise on amazon kikatec have it at £38 with free delivery.

Its cheap, but its one of the rare non Z motherboards that can overclock a g3258 CPU. Some users have reported 4.5ghz @ 1.3v, although this will obviously vary (don't buy an OEM chip!)

forums.anandtech.com/sho…948

Scan has this CPU for £46 + delivery - gone up a few quid since I bought but still best bang for buck when overclocked

Pair up with some cheapo 8gb DDR3, an SSD, and a geforce 750Ti in a micro atx case and you have a capable gaming machine - should play most at 1080p at med settings (higher if you don't bother with AA like me - even 4gb will probably be fine for most games bought today)

scan.co.uk/pro…io-

ebuyer.com/553…hds

amazon.co.uk/Kom…76/

ebuyer.com/474…g25

dabs.com/pro…W00

or the low profile version I have

overclockers.co.uk/sho…ouk

cheap case

amazon.co.uk/Fra…G4/

or

amazon.co.uk/gp/…0TQ

PSU
(cheap but not too nasty, this rig won't pull anymore than 150w so will be pretty unstressed)
scan.co.uk/pro…psu

Cooler
Unless you're running at high voltages or want something more reliable and cooler, the stock cooler will probably suffice (its rated for 95w TDP, the g3258 at stock is 54)

I've bought a noctua Hh L-12 cooler for mine, its a tight fit though!

Motherboard has a couple of USB3 and a pcie port (which may block GPU cooler if a larger card, eg DVB-S2 tuner). Other than that pretty basic, but ideal to overclock that little intel g3258 beauty. MATX form factor which I prefer to ATX - not keen on whacking great base units.

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Nice post, hot just for that

Banned

Gave it heat - Arsrocks! ;-)

How good do you think this will be for a cheap video editing machine? Using all the components you linked.

Nice post btw.
Edited by: "DigitalReaper" 21st Jul 2014

Won't the BIOS need updated to work with the G3258?

DigitalReaper

How good do you think this will be for a cheap video editing machine? … How good do you think this will be for a cheap video editing machine? Using all the components you linked.Nice post btw.



The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.

I really like asrock boards, have some heat.

heat, will consider this.

I am looking to build my little bro and little gaming machine for is birthday he's 14 on October so will definitely keep this post in mind.

Original Poster

brendanhickey

I am looking to build my little bro and little gaming machine for is … I am looking to build my little bro and little gaming machine for is birthday he's 14 on October so will definitely keep this post in mind.



Also consider an amd GPU, they're a bit quicker for around the same price but use a lot more power. If you have a low profile case then a 750ti is the best you can get.

Banned

Goin' hot, deservedly so ;-)

nice find

jaydeeuk1

Also consider an amd GPU, they're a bit quicker for around the same price … Also consider an amd GPU, they're a bit quicker for around the same price but use a lot more power. If you have a low profile case then a 750ti is the best you can get.

thanks

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.


I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?

mil10cv

I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a … I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?



What is your budget?

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.


I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?

keepitonthelow

I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a … I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?



What is your budget?

looking for around £350?? if it is possible?

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.


I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.


I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.


I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?

mil10cv

What is your budget?looking for around £350?? if it is possible?



Pm sent

mil10cv

I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a … I appreciate your replay, but can you send me the configration for a budget video editing PC please?



I would be cautious taking advice for such an endeavour from some random people on Hotukdeals. If you're going to build a PC for a task like that, spend time researching.

techreport.com and hexus.net are worthwhile places to visit.

For what it's worth, I service PCs for a living and can tell you that you should consider an Intel CPU-based system rather than AMD, at LEAST a four-core processor and no less than 4GB of RAM, preferably 8GB. Use an SSD as your OS / apps drive, and have a separate hard drive to store your video (Western Digital Blue or Black drives would be good). But seek further information elsewhere and don't rush your build.
Edited by: "chischis" 21st Jul 2014

chischis

I would be cautious taking advice for such an endeavour from some random … I would be cautious taking advice for such an endeavour from some random people on Hotukdeals. If you're going to build a PC for a task like that, spend time researching.www.techreport.com and hexus.net are worthwhile places to visit.For what it's worth, I service PCs for a living and can tell you that you should consider an Intel CPU-based system rather than AMD, at LEAST a four-core processor and no less than 4GB of RAM, preferably 8GB. Use an SSD as your OS / apps drive, and have a separate hard drive to store your video (Western Digital Blue or Black drives would be good). But seek further information elsewhere and don't rush your build.



Good luck doing that for £350 with a gpu. I am not a fan of amd but for video editing they are as good as intel.
Edited by: "keepitonthelow" 21st Jul 2014

chischis

I would be cautious taking advice for such an endeavour from some random … I would be cautious taking advice for such an endeavour from some random people on Hotukdeals. If you're going to build a PC for a task like that, spend time researching.www.techreport.com and hexus.net are worthwhile places to visit.Is intel i5 four-core? For what it's worth, I service PCs for a living and can tell you that you should consider an Intel CPU-based system rather than AMD, at LEAST a four-core processor and no less than 4GB of RAM, preferably 8GB. Use an SSD as your OS / apps drive, and have a separate hard drive to store your video (Western Digital Blue or Black drives would be good). But seek further information elsewhere and don't rush your build.

It's a bargain price I think if it will overclock a g3258, half the price of my Gigabyte z87.. I have the g3258 running at 4.55ghz 1.3v with a cheapo coolermaster 120v. Trying 4.6 just results in lockups/bluescreens..I've not played around upping the voltage happy as it is.
On my setup the g3258 runs 4ghz at stock voltage solidly. I used to have an Amd 8150 with a GTX660 gpu which meant I didn't need to need central heating in the winter. I mostly play skyrim and a few driving sims (@1080) and have not noticed any lag with the g3258..I guess anyone that does video editing or running VM's would be better off with more cores but the g3258 suits my needs perfectly..I can always buy an i5/i7 at a later date.I've been with AMD for the last 10 years and had fun overclocking/unlocking cores time will tell if I go back !
Edited by: "Crusty" 21st Jul 2014

keepitonthelow

Good luck doing that for £350 with a gpu. I am not a fan of amd but for … Good luck doing that for £350 with a gpu. I am not a fan of amd but for video editing they are as good as intel.



And this is why "build advice" is nebulous on places like this. Someone comes up with a comment like this.

A GPU is NOT necessary for a video editing build, save for those people wishing to use software that can make use of the GPU for video processing.

AMD will work just fine but their higher TDPs will cost more to run long-term. Buying Intel these days unquestionably buys one efficiency.

mil10cv

Is intel i5 four-core?



The Core i5-44xx series are all four / quad core. There was a deal for one of them on here recently, yes they are going to be around £120+ just for the CPU but that's the component that will be doing all the video processing. Frankly, video editing is one of those tasks where you can never have enough CPU power... but you could always upgrade later if you really needed more. Core i5 would be a good balance. Edit: Back on topic, the ASRock motherboard in this post would be quite sufficient to host such a processor.


Edited by: "chischis" 21st Jul 2014

Heat just for the effort of listing that system build! Already got 3 laptops, a PC and a Server but that's really tempting.....DAMN THIS SITE!!!

keepitonthelow

The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you … The G3258 would not be very good at video editing. For not much more you could have a Fx 6300 (£71.52) Cheap MSI 760GM (£27.73) that would be better for video editing but for gaming and everything else the G3258 should be better.



Can you post links to prove that the G3258 won't be very good at video editing? Otherwise I'll assume you just made it up or guessed.

You almost certainly won't be able to buy this board and the Pentium G3258 and have a working system.

Very few of the H81-based boards have been flashed with a BIOS late enough to work with the new Intel CPUs. You very often need an older Haswell chip to boot, flash the BIOS, then install your newer Haswell CPU. You're best bet would be to get a cheap pentium or celeron off ebay, do the deed then sell it again.

fishmaster

Can you post links to prove that the G3258 won't be very good at video … Can you post links to prove that the G3258 won't be very good at video editing? Otherwise I'll assume you just made it up or guessed.



You'd have to define both "video editing" and "good".

My main machine is an overclocked 2700k. 8 processing threads, and it tears through pretty much anything I can throw at it, including 1080p editing.

My little DJ machine is running a 4330. This has twice the threads of the pentium, 1MB more cache, and a slighly higher base clock speed. Even though it is many years newer than my 2700k, it crawls in comparison when editing 1080p.

So if you are talking about making small adjustments to videos you took on your phone, then the pentium should be acceptable, especially if you have no point of reference for what good actually is. If you actually want to do anything vaguely involved, then stump for a better cpu.

Thanks for the advice, I assumed the G3258 was for gaming only. I'll stick with my i7 build for video editing.

Great post and effort put I to this! Clearly done time and thought was put into this HEAT!!

Original Poster

Looks like price just gone up to £38.50, amazon now cheaper unless you get free next day del.

kr00t0n

You'd have to define both "video editing" and "good".My main machine is … You'd have to define both "video editing" and "good".My main machine is an overclocked 2700k. 8 processing threads, and it tears through pretty much anything I can throw at it, including 1080p editing.My little DJ machine is running a 4330. This has twice the threads of the pentium, 1MB more cache, and a slighly higher base clock speed. Even though it is many years newer than my 2700k, it crawls in comparison when editing 1080p.So if you are talking about making small adjustments to videos you took on your phone, then the pentium should be acceptable, especially if you have no point of reference for what good actually is. If you actually want to do anything vaguely involved, then stump for a better cpu.



Well depends. If the package you are using supports GPU rendering then you maybe better off spending less on the CPU to free up more cash for a better GPU.

Have a look at xbitslabs,which is a long standing review site.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/x264.png

In order to measure how fast the tested CPUs can transcode video into … In order to measure how fast the tested CPUs can transcode video into H.264 format we used x264 FHD Benchmark 1.0.1 (64 bit). It measures the time it takes the x264 encoder to convert an MPEG-4/AVC video recorded in 1920x1080@50fps format with 30 Mbps bitrate. The results have high practical value, because the x264 codec is part of popular transcoding utilities, such as HandBrake, MeGUI, VirtualDub, etc. We regularly update the encoder used in this performance test. This time around, we use version r2358, which supports all contemporary instruction sets including AVX2.



They are using an X264 benchmark with a encoder which supports AVX2 - most review sites don't test with the newer encoder.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/freemake.png

Encoding video with a bare encoder is hardly a real-life application, so … Encoding video with a bare encoder is hardly a real-life application, so we want to check out the speed of video transcoding with the popular free tool Freemake Video Converter 4.0.4. It uses the FFmpeg library and is based on the x264 coder too, but features certain optimizations. We disable CUDA and DXVA for this test to create maximum load on the CPUs’ computing cores.



The next set are from Anandtech.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8227/65050.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8227/65063.png

Video encoding tends to scale well with more threads,especially if encoding larger files.

The x265 results is important since this is planned as the successor to the x264 standard.

An FX6300 for around £71 would only be around 10% slower than an FX6350 at most,and probably around on third slower than an FX8350.

It will be around low end Core i5 level.

This motherboard would probably be fine:

amazon.co.uk/Gig…YJ8

It has quite a solid VRM for a budget AM3+ motherboard and has cooling too.

Short review here:

expertreviews.co.uk/mot…sb3

People on forums have had good experiences with the board(even supports an FX8320 fine it appears without throttling),but the major limitation is the lack of SATA3.

This will only be a limitation with an SSD,not normal HDDs though.

Otherwise a £50 970 motherboard and a £20 to £30 graphics card will be fine.


Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 22nd Jul 2014

If you use Sony Vegas,it is accelerated by OpenCL so a reasonable graphics card is useful.

Toms Hardware did some tests too(with a GTX780TI in the system IIRC) too.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/U/440562/original/vegas-pro.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/I/440550/original/premiere-pro.png

Look where a 4.3GHZ Athlon II X4 750K is,in relation to the other CPUs. So an FX6300 with 50% more threads and L3 cache is going to be noticeably faster than even a £100+ Core i3 4330 for many video encoding applications.

The thing is also DON'T skimp on the motherboard by getting one with only two RAM slots.

It severely limits the amount of RAM you can add to the system - so get a motherboard with 4 RAM slots,whether you get an AMD or Intel CPU.

The Intel alternative would be this CPU at over £50 more:

ebuyer.com/538…wcB

I would look at least at this motherboard:

ebuyer.com/507…d3h

It has 4 RAM slots - all the socket 1150 motherboards with 4 RAM slots are closer to £50 it seems,at least on Ebuyer.





Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 22nd Jul 2014

Can we get slightly back on topic please - the motherboard does allegedly support the G3258 provided you have BIOS version P1.60 or later; see this link.

I'm slightly at a loss at whether it will boot at all or if there's another way of updating the BIOS if you build it with this CPU straight away. I'm actually interested in something like this for my parents.

Don't bank on Intel not insisting in the future that these H boards with unlocked multipliers have a firmware update removing this feature.

It has happened in the past and you may find yourself in the future choosing between a BIOS update with a crucial bugfix or an old buggy BIOS with an unlocked multiplier.

would the cheap cpu and mobo still work good with a gtx 770?

i would read the reviews of the processor before buying it for a games machine (anandtech, eurogamer )

it a good processor for older games that don't require more than 2 cores, any modern game that need more cores (battlefield 4 etc... ) is going to suffer from lag where the processor simply cant send enough data

"Pentium G3258 Anniversary Edition - the Digital Foundry verdict

Is this the processor to buy for a budget gaming build? In terms of raw computational performance, 4.5GHz of Intel dual-core power is capable of some superb results that no other low-budget processor can match. However, despite the ludicrous clock-speeds, on the most advanced titles, you do find yourself lowering quality presets or introducing frame-rate caps in order to combat some notable stuttering. Play to its strengths and you get some phenomenal results, but in some respects, the G3258 Anniversary Edition feels like an anachronism - a modern-day rendition of an outdated type of processor that's had its day, bludgeoning its way to success through sheer brute force alone. It's the basic dual-core's last hurrah, if you like"
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