ASRock Z170 Extreme4 Skylake LGA1151 ATX Motherboard £108.46 Delivered from Amazon (Prime Members Only)
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ASRock Z170 Extreme4 Skylake LGA1151 ATX Motherboard £108.46 Delivered from Amazon (Prime Members Only)

£108.46
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Found 14th Nov 2016Made hot 15th Nov 2016
A really great price for this motherboard. It usually sells for £120 or more at least.

It uses Hyper BCLK Engine so it can overclock non-K Skylake CPU's pretty much as far as they can go.

Supports 6th Generation Intel Core Processors (Socket 1151)
Supports Dual Channel DDR4 3200+(OC)
NVIDIA Quad SLI, AMD 3-Way CrossFireX
Graphics Output Options: DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort 1.2
7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1150 Audio Codec), Supports Purity Sound 3 & DTS Connect

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This item at £108.46, is reserved for Prime members.

its been this price for a year...
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Edited by: "watson44" 14th Nov 2016

4k does not work properly on skylake. Waiting to buy kabylake Intel generation 7 with support for 4k and hevc codecs.

Original Poster

sam_of_london

4k does not work properly on skylake. Waiting to buy kabylake Intel … 4k does not work properly on skylake. Waiting to buy kabylake Intel generation 7 with support for 4k and hevc codecs.



There isn't a single GPU that can do 4k gaming properly yet anyway. That 4k30 upscaled nonsense may work for the console kids but it isn't going to cut it with the Master Race.

Master Race. pc users or Nazis?

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Gort1951

Master Race. pc users or Nazis?



If the Nazi party were still going strong today then I'm quite sure they would be Mac users.

Nazi policies were ill-conceived, economically horrendous, backward, ineffective and offered no real benefit to the world yet people blindly followed them anyway.

Spark

If the Nazi party were still going strong today then I'm quite sure they … If the Nazi party were still going strong today then I'm quite sure they would be Mac users. Nazi policies were ill-conceived, economically horrendous, backward, ineffective and offered no real benefit to the world yet people blindly followed them anyway.


Hey print more money then we are all rich?

Spark

If the Nazi party were still going strong today then I'm quite sure they … If the Nazi party were still going strong today then I'm quite sure they would be Mac users. Nazi policies were ill-conceived, economically horrendous, backward, ineffective and offered no real benefit to the world yet people blindly followed them anyway.



I'm a Windows, MacOS (formerly OSX) and Linux user, they all have their faults, Windows 10 I won't use unless I'm forced to with DX12, which is why Vulkan API is so important. I'd much rather use MacOS than Windows 10, right click is much better in Windows 10, just about everything else is better in MacOS.

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fishmaster

I'm a Windows, MacOS (formerly OSX) and Linux user, they all have their … I'm a Windows, MacOS (formerly OSX) and Linux user, they all have their faults, Windows 10 I won't use unless I'm forced to with DX12, which is why Vulkan API is so important. I'd much rather use MacOS than Windows 10, right click is much better in Windows 10, just about everything else is better in MacOS.



I actually hate Windows 10. I would go back to Windows 8.1 but unfortunately I own some games on the Windows Store and they won't work under anything other than 10.

Spark

I actually hate Windows 10. I would go back to Windows 8.1 but … I actually hate Windows 10. I would go back to Windows 8.1 but unfortunately I own some games on the Windows Store and they won't work under anything other than 10.



Windows 10 they've had 3 goes at it so far, so much stuff breaks on it, customers hate it as well. I work in IT refurbishment, the feedback is Windows 10 is crap, had a call today some one bought a laptop on our eBay store, had it a few months, it did a recent update and just boots to a back screen now, can't repair it over the phone/team viewer etc so has to come back.

en.wikipedia.org/wik…ory

They've had 3 goes so far, and more are coming :\

"Windows 10 Creators Update or Windows 10 Version 1703 codenamed "Redstone 2", is the third major update to Windows 10 and the second of the 4 major updates planned under the Redstone codenames."

Original Poster

fishmaster

Windows 10 they've had 3 goes at it so far, so much stuff breaks on it, … Windows 10 they've had 3 goes at it so far, so much stuff breaks on it, customers hate it as well. I work in IT refurbishment, the feedback is Windows 10 is crap, had a call today some one bought a laptop on our eBay store, had it a few months, it did a recent update and just boots to a back screen now, can't repair it over the phone/team viewer etc so has to come back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history#Creators_UpdateThey've had 3 goes so far, and more are coming :\"Windows 10 Creators Update or Windows 10 Version 1703 codenamed "Redstone 2", is the third major update to Windows 10 and the second of the 4 major updates planned under the Redstone codenames."



I replaced my CPU last week and the first time I tried it Windows 10 just broke itself and got stuck in a boot loop. I ended up using an old Windows 8 DVD to repair it.

The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt even use their computer before anyway.

I'm looking at a new build and this motherboard. Unsure whether I could get something better in the sales. What do you y'all think?

Spark

I replaced my CPU last week and the first time I tried it Windows 10 just … I replaced my CPU last week and the first time I tried it Windows 10 just broke itself and got stuck in a boot loop. I ended up using an old Windows 8 DVD to repair it.



Windows 8 wouldn't update to 8.1 here without unplugging all my SATA drives but the master. No issues with 10 yet.

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Rude Russy

The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt … The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt even use their computer before anyway.



Except I have a Masters degree in Computer Science and make my living as a Systems Analyst. But sure, whatever you say.

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moh223

I'm looking at a new build and this motherboard. Unsure whether I could … I'm looking at a new build and this motherboard. Unsure whether I could get something better in the sales. What do you y'all think?



What CPU?

If you're buying a K-CPU then you might be able to find something newer and better than this.

Rude Russy

The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt … The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt even use their computer before anyway.



That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but was a shock to the system, since I've had Windows 10 I've had wifi issues, had the start button refuse to work (the start button is quite useful), etc.

It's getting a little more reliable with each update though

Shard

That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but … That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but was a shock to the system, since I've had Windows 10 I've had wifi issues, had the start button refuse to work (the start button is quite useful), etc. It's getting a little more reliable with each update though



What version are you running now?

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Shard

That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but … That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but was a shock to the system, since I've had Windows 10 I've had wifi issues, had the start button refuse to work (the start button is quite useful), etc. It's getting a little more reliable with each update though



Windows 8 was a risky bet and was ahead of its time. People just took a look at the Start menu changes and immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was crap. I've heard it compared with Windows Me and Vista in the past which is just completely unfounded.

Spark

What CPU?If you're buying a K-CPU then you might be able to find … What CPU?If you're buying a K-CPU then you might be able to find something newer and better than this.


why? isn't the whole point of a z motherboard is to overclock?

Shard

That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but … That was true of Windows 8 but not of Windows 10, Windows 8 worked but was a shock to the system, since I've had Windows 10 I've had wifi issues, had the start button refuse to work (the start button is quite useful), etc. It's getting a little more reliable with each update though



Those wifi issues are nothing to do with Windows 10 in itself. its to do with the drivers for your wifi card.

Driver's for individual pieces of hardware (which there are tens of thousands) arent the responsibility of Microsoft. you'd need to troubleshoot that particular wifi card and see if theres an updated driver for it. the responsibility for that likes with the manufacturer of that hardware component..

Spark

What CPU?If you're buying a K-CPU then you might be able to find … What CPU?If you're buying a K-CPU then you might be able to find something newer and better than this.



I'm looking at i5-6600k. i7-6700k is available at around £310 at a retailer but can't really justify it. The colour looks nice on this board but any other recommendations would be helpful. New processors are coming soon, is it better to wait? Not sure what to do.

Original Poster

moh223

I'm looking at i5-6600k. i7-6700k is available at around £310 at a … I'm looking at i5-6600k. i7-6700k is available at around £310 at a retailer but can't really justify it. The colour looks nice on this board but any other recommendations would be helpful. New processors are coming soon, is it better to wait? Not sure what to do.



Is this for gaming? I'd advise against an i5 if that's the case. i5 has been the sweet spot for PC gaming for around the last 6-10 years but now games are starting to use Hyper Threading. I recently had to change to an i7 because my old i5-6600 couldn't hack it in Battlefield 1.

Original Poster

Silas123

why? isn't the whole point of a z motherboard is to overclock?



Yes but this is designed more for BCLK. On a regular Z board and K chip you can just edit the multiplier as you see fit.

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Rude Russy

Those wifi issues are nothing to do with Windows 10 in itself. its to do … Those wifi issues are nothing to do with Windows 10 in itself. its to do with the drivers for your wifi card. Driver's for individual pieces of hardware (which there are tens of thousands) arent the responsibility of Microsoft. you'd need to troubleshoot that particular wifi card and see if theres an updated driver for it. the responsibility for that likes with the manufacturer of that hardware component..



OK then explain to me why the Windows 10 Store and the app container system that it uses are both so crap. That's nobody's fault but Microsoft's.

Rude Russy

The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt … The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt even use their computer before anyway.



​windows 10 is spot on on a decent spec pc/laptop. of it is upgraded on to an older computer thats when it struggles i find.

Spark

Is this for gaming? I'd advise against an i5 if that's the case. i5 has … Is this for gaming? I'd advise against an i5 if that's the case. i5 has been the sweet spot for PC gaming for around the last 6-10 years but now games are starting to use Hyper Threading. I recently had to change to an i7 because my old i5-6600 couldn't hack it in Battlefield 1.



From my research, I've been seeing this mentioned a couple of times. It's not full on gaming all the time. More media (HTPC) with gaming at 1080p or 1440p.

Rude Russy

Those wifi issues are nothing to do with Windows 10 in itself. its to do … Those wifi issues are nothing to do with Windows 10 in itself. its to do with the drivers for your wifi card. Driver's for individual pieces of hardware (which there are tens of thousands) arent the responsibility of Microsoft. you'd need to troubleshoot that particular wifi card and see if theres an updated driver for it. the responsibility for that likes with the manufacturer of that hardware component..



Windows 10 had a problem with wifi and vpn in general, it was fixed around august time, you may be aware of it as it was a big enough problem to get on the news.

The start button was a more worrying issue, clicking it had no effect

Original Poster

moh223

From my research, I've been seeing this mentioned a couple of times. It's … From my research, I've been seeing this mentioned a couple of times. It's not full on gaming all the time. More media (HTPC) with gaming at 1080p or 1440p.



It depends on what game you really want to play but just from the top of my head R6: Siege, The Division, BF1 and Dishonored 2 all use Hyper Threading. The resolution you play at won't make much difference because it is more to do with the physics processing etc.

You could look into the i7-6400t which could be perfect in your scenario and would compliment this board really well but I'd advise doing a lot of reading up on it first and careful not to confuse it with the i5-6400t as that is something different.
Edited by: "Spark" 15th Nov 2016

My Build

Bought this 6 weeks ago for my 6600K...excellent board.
Paid this exact price though and non prime too!
BCLK overclock for non-K CPUs was blocked by a bios update & from within Windows 10 over 6 months ago...

Original Poster

leetron

BCLK overclock for non-K CPUs was blocked by a bios update & from within … BCLK overclock for non-K CPUs was blocked by a bios update & from within Windows 10 over 6 months ago...



No it wasn't.

Ok thanks for your advice. What about the motherboard? Would it be fine for either i5 or i7?

Original Poster

moh223

Ok thanks for your advice. What about the motherboard? Would it be fine … Ok thanks for your advice. What about the motherboard? Would it be fine for either i5 or i7?



Yeah. And unless you want to overclock a K CPU then you only need a B or H series board and not one of the more expensive Z versions.

Rude Russy

The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt … The only people that complain about Windows 10 are numpties who couldnt even use their computer before anyway.



​Built first PC in 98, Windows 10 is OK unless it goes wrong, some hardware configurations it does not like and there seems to be no rhyme or reason for that.

Spark

Windows 8 was a risky bet and was ahead of its time. People just took a … Windows 8 was a risky bet and was ahead of its time. People just took a look at the Start menu changes and immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was crap. I've heard it compared with Windows Me and Vista in the past which is just completely unfounded.



​A few months before 8 was released, Intel strong armed Microsoft into lowering the minimum specification so intels onbourd Gfx meet the spec, result win 8 ran slow and clunky.

i have the extreme6 awesome boards my i5 6500 is runing at 4.5 ghz,

Spark

No it wasn't.



Oh yes it was...

There is a hack if you want to down grade the factory bios: Video

Love this MB and want others to buy it too but they need accurate up to date information!





Edited by: "leetron" 15th Nov 2016

Original Poster

leetron

Oh yes it was...There is a hack if you want to down grade the factory … Oh yes it was...There is a hack if you want to down grade the factory bios: VideoLove this MB and want others to buy it too but they need accurate up to date information!



Exactly, it was the BIOS that were patched after Intel put the pressure on. They never actually blocked it through microcode. You just need to use a custom BIOS to re-enable the feature on some boards (and no prizes for guessing the sources of those custom versions).

Spark

Exactly, it was the BIOS that were patched after Intel put the pressure … Exactly, it was the BIOS that were patched after Intel put the pressure on. They never actually blocked it through microcode. You just need to use a custom BIOS to re-enable the feature on some boards (and no prizes for guessing the sources of those custom versions).


Maybe then you should alter your OP to inform potential buyers that if they want to OC non-K they'll have to hunt down a custom bios?

Original Poster

leetron

Maybe then you should alter your OP to inform potential buyers that if … Maybe then you should alter your OP to inform potential buyers that if they want to OC non-K they'll have to hunt down a custom bios?



No because this will have the right BIOS out of the box. AsRock disabled it in one update and then re-enabled it a month or so later. The chances of it having the non-BCLK BIOS on it are extremely small and in that unlikely event you would just need to go on the AsRock website to download a new one. Hardly hunting anything down. What I said above about custom ones mainly applies to MSI, Asus and Gigabyte.

This has been at this price for some time now.
Furthermore, its a very bad board for Skylake, many errors with it and has lack of overclocking capabilities.
Plus OP saying that there isnt a single GPU that can handle 4k yet LMAO.
Say that to my build.
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