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SomebodE31/10/2019 08:41

Bitcoin mining or electronic currency mining.


I can't see a bigger waste of resources and money.
anonannbarr31/10/2019 08:21

Mining....


Yeah but people buy offroad SUVs all the time to drive to the shops because it still works haha
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How viable is this as a gaming pc motherboard compared to a budget gaming pc motherboard?
Jamal_Mahroof31/10/2019 08:12

How viable is this as a gaming pc motherboard compared to a budget gaming …How viable is this as a gaming pc motherboard compared to a budget gaming pc motherboard?


Mining....
Jamal_Mahroof31/10/2019 08:12

How viable is this as a gaming pc motherboard compared to a budget gaming …How viable is this as a gaming pc motherboard compared to a budget gaming pc motherboard?


"Mining" is kinda just branding. A motherboard is really a motherboard regardless of "gaming", mining" etc. The only real different boards are consumer grade and server grade, just ensure it has the connections you want and it will work just fine.
Edited by: "Solado" 31st Oct
anonannbarr31/10/2019 08:21

Mining....


Yeah but people buy offroad SUVs all the time to drive to the shops because it still works haha
Solado31/10/2019 08:22

"Mining" is kinda just branding. A motherboard is really a motherboard …"Mining" is kinda just branding. A motherboard is really a motherboard regardless of "gaming", mining" etc. The only real different boards are consumer grade and server grade, just ensure it has the connections you want and it will work just fine.


I'll check it has the connections, was just wondering if mining means anything fancy or different in any other aspect
Jamal_Mahroof31/10/2019 08:25

I'll check it has the connections, was just wondering if mining means …I'll check it has the connections, was just wondering if mining means anything fancy or different in any other aspect


I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due to the number of them. Even so most GPU's don't come close to using full bandwidth anyway.
Solado31/10/2019 08:26

I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due …I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due to the number of them. Even so most GPU's don't come close to using full bandwidth anyway.


I'll definitely see if anyone else has used something like for gaming without issues. Thanks for the info! Still heat though haha
Solado31/10/2019 08:26

I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due …I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due to the number of them. Even so most GPU's don't come close to using full bandwidth anyway.


Yes although this mobo only has one Pixie x16 slot and it sounds like it's set to PCIe v1 by default... I mean, it MIGHT work for gaming, if you're willing to get your hands dirty. I'd just be a bit worried about the out of the box experience.
Been that price for a while now. Ebay's flooded with them.
What does mining mean?
SomebodE31/10/2019 08:41

Bitcoin mining or electronic currency mining.


I can't see a bigger waste of resources and money.
Suspect this has a myriad of other acceptable uses considering you can get quite a few PCI-E cards that do various things. DVB cards, capture cards, gpus, Raid cards etc etc. Might be worth it but drawback with be the CPU as it's quite old now.
On-board sound. Nice. Boogie while you mine
Solado31/10/2019 08:26

I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due …I think (don't hold me too this), the PCI-E lanes can be a bit slower due to the number of them. Even so most GPU's don't come close to using full bandwidth anyway.


I think you can turn that aspect off and the main PCIe slot can still run in 16x mode if the others aren’t populated. To be honest, this could be a good cheap board for many, as some people will won’t even use a plug in card and for those who do, it’s typically a GPU only.

You can get a cheap Kaby Lake chip and DDR4 from CeXfor this and have a low cost setup.
robertmatthewwright31/10/2019 08:53

Suspect this has a myriad of other acceptable uses considering you can get …Suspect this has a myriad of other acceptable uses considering you can get quite a few PCI-E cards that do various things. DVB cards, capture cards, gpus, Raid cards etc etc. Might be worth it but drawback with be the CPU as it's quite old now.


Agree. If you have a reason to have a load of pcie cards there might be a genuine use case here. Maybe low grade server with a load of pci-e to sata for example.

As stated pcie will be limited for the vast majority of the ports but many things wont need even x4 bandwidth.
plewis0031/10/2019 08:59

I think you can turn that aspect off and the main PCIe slot can still run …I think you can turn that aspect off and the main PCIe slot can still run in 16x mode if the others aren’t populated. To be honest, this could be a good cheap board for many, as some people will won’t even use a plug in card and for those who do, it’s typically a GPU only.You can get a cheap Kaby Lake chip and DDR4 from CeXfor this and have a low cost setup.


Reading more into this I think you're right, it does seem there is a Mining setting in the bios which does have effect on the PCI-E speeds.
The amount of energy these miners waste is insane. Millions of computers running 24/7 full pelt.
38860972-iTqjI.jpgIn case you were thinking about it...
£25.29 now.
Solado31/10/2019 09:01

Reading more into this I think you're right, it does seem there is a …Reading more into this I think you're right, it does seem there is a Mining setting in the bios which does have effect on the PCI-E speeds.


A few people did it when these boards were on clearance, it’s just a basic B250 board otherwise - the ‘above 4G decoding and TOLUD settings’ don’t need to be turned on and the 1x lanes don’t need to be occupied or in use. It may not be optimised for gaming or general use but it should be totally fine.

jamesp8731/10/2019 09:04

The amount of energy these miners waste is insane. Millions of computers …The amount of energy these miners waste is insane. Millions of computers running 24/7 full pelt.


This is about the deal price for the board, not your hang ups on cryptocurrency.
jamesp8731/10/2019 09:04

The amount of energy these miners waste is insane. Millions of computers …The amount of energy these miners waste is insane. Millions of computers running 24/7 full pelt.


The sooner this ridiculous mining craze dies, the better.
Given the current profile of climate change, it is crazy that this is allowed to go on.
The world does not need crypto currencies.
Jamal_Mahroof31/10/2019 08:24

Yeah but people buy offroad SUVs all the time to drive to the shops …Yeah but people buy offroad SUVs all the time to drive to the shops because it still works haha



If idiots drive around in heavy vehicles then I'm obliged to protect my family from them in a heavy vehicle too.
I don't feel any similar obligation to waste electricity if that's what they're now doing.

Your analogy is a poor one
Edited by: "Make.Amazon.Great.Again" 31st Oct
Make.Amazon.Great.Again31/10/2019 09:28

If idiots drive around in heavy vehicles then I'm obliged to protect my …If idiots drive around in heavy vehicles then I'm obliged to protect my family from them in a heavy vehicle too. I don't feel any similar obligation to waste electricity if that's what they're now doing.Your analogy is a poor one


You miss my point entirely... I want to use this as a gaming PC motherboard even though it's not marketed as one. Just like most offroad SUVs get used to go to the shops. Understand the analogy first and the chain of replies previous first please.
Insane even attempting to mine these days.
Walrus_Man31/10/2019 09:20

The sooner this ridiculous mining craze dies, the better.Given the current …The sooner this ridiculous mining craze dies, the better.Given the current profile of climate change, it is crazy that this is allowed to go on.The world does not need crypto currencies.

The informed know most of it is done using renewable energy anyway - but don't let that stand in the way of a good rant. If you're going to pick on random things you can argue that alcohol consumption, meat eating, owning a car with an engine larger than X (and not cycling etc), the film industry (and wastage) is crazy that it's allowed to go on, and yet here we all are.

Jamal_Mahroof31/10/2019 09:36

You miss my point entirely... I want to use this as a gaming PC …You miss my point entirely... I want to use this as a gaming PC motherboard even though it's not marketed as one. Just like most offroad SUVs get used to go to the shops. Understand the analogy first and the chain of replies previous first please.



It should be fine as a basic gaming board - don't expect overclocking or massive optimisation but it will run fine with a discrete GPU. Google 'b250 mining expert gaming' and see some forum posts.
Edited by: "plewis00" 31st Oct
Up to £25.29 now
Just need adapters for my new 16 'drive' NVME raid 0.

POWAAAAAAARRR!
Expired.£25.29 now..
I bought a mining board recently to replace a problematic Z97 LGA 1150 board. For £20 I can bring life back to an old mid level gaming PC using a new, warrantied motherboard. If I needed a 2nd PC or media setup then this would be a bargain to use.
anonannbarr31/10/2019 11:16

you asked. whats your problem?


Someone has asked for some help. You’ve responded with one word that’s part of the description. I assume it’s ‘tongue in cheek’ but what you’re insinuating isn’t even correct.
SavvyChap31/10/2019 11:23

Someone has asked for some help. You’ve responded with one word that’s par …Someone has asked for some help. You’ve responded with one word that’s part of the description. I assume it’s ‘tongue in cheek’ but what you’re insinuating isn’t even correct.


If u feel that way... i never intented
noddynodnod31/10/2019 11:02

I bought a mining board recently to replace a problematic Z97 LGA 1150 …I bought a mining board recently to replace a problematic Z97 LGA 1150 board. For £20 I can bring life back to an old mid level gaming PC using a new, warrantied motherboard. If I needed a 2nd PC or media setup then this would be a bargain to use.


Which is also much more sustainable and good for the environment too - though you'll need a new CPU I guess and probably DDR4 RAM if coming from a Z97.
plewis0031/10/2019 09:52

The informed know most of it is done using renewable energy anyway - but …The informed know most of it is done using renewable energy anyway - but don't let that stand in the way of a good rant. If you're going to pick on random things you can argue that alcohol consumption, meat eating, owning a car with an engine larger than X (and not cycling etc), the film industry (and wastage) is crazy that it's allowed to go on, and yet here we all are.It should be fine as a basic gaming board - don't expect overclocking or massive optimisation but it will run fine with a discrete GPU. Google 'b250 mining expert gaming' and see some forum posts.


At least the film industry provides entertainment to millions of people, I'm not sure what crypto mining is doing for the masses.
Walrus_Man31/10/2019 15:31

At least the film industry provides entertainment to millions of people, …At least the film industry provides entertainment to millions of people, I'm not sure what crypto mining is doing for the masses.


Well, it's opened up another side to the financial markets and a new asset class. But I didn't know we were picking and choosing. So what about the other 'wasteful' things I listed then - what good has alcohol done for the masses?
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