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ASUS RT-AC88U AC3100 £195.99 @ ASUS via Amazon
ASUS RT-AC88U AC3100 £195.99 @ ASUS via Amazon

ASUS RT-AC88U AC3100 £195.99 @ ASUS via Amazon

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Ultra-fast 802.11ac dual-band Wi-Fi router boosts speeds up to 3167 Mbps for low-latency online gaming, smooth 4K UHD video playback and extremely fast file-sharing

4x4 antenna design with AiRadar universal beamforming for unrivaled Wi-Fi range, Intuitive ASUS Router App lets you control your network anywhere, without needing to boot up a PC
Exclusive built-in game accelerator from WTFast lets you enjoy smooth gameplay in supported multi-player online games

AiProtection with Trend Micro for triple-strength network security, plus robust Parental Controls and privacy protection, Revolutionary MU-MIMO technology can connect multiple MU-MIMO-compatible clients at each device's maximum speed simultaneously

8 Gigabit LAN ports for extensive connectivity, Link aggregation for up to 2Gbps wired network speeds, so more devices can enjoy faster access, Adaptive QoS

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I really struggle to see the need for a £200 domestic router.......

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Uridium

I really struggle to see the need for a £200 domestic router.......



It would compliment the Dell Poweredge T20 Xeon you put up quite well I'd think, or you could eat your malteasers and find a cheaper deal

chucknorrispc

It would compliment the Dell Poweredge T20 Xeon you put up quite well I'd … It would compliment the Dell Poweredge T20 Xeon you put up quite well I'd think, or you could eat your malteasers and find a cheaper deal



Very good.....:p
But nope... Cat6 cable is fast enough and much cheaper....Bizarrely I never made it back to WHSmith's to buy any of the cheap Maltesers

Edited by: "Uridium" 19th Dec 2016

Original Poster

It all depends on how much technology you have in your property which rely on a solid connection. I wouldnt expect someone with an ADSL line with three people in the house to justify the expense but someone who has a larger family and/or works from home.. Makes a difference.

It's the cheapest it's been from a reputable seller, I personally bought it from Currys @ £235 and thought that was a great price.

Hopefully someone will benefit

chucknorrispc

It all depends on how much technology you have in your property which … It all depends on how much technology you have in your property which rely on a solid connection. I wouldnt expect someone with an ADSL line with three people in the house to justify the expense but someone who has a larger family and/or works from home.. Makes a difference.It's the cheapest it's been from a reputable seller, I personally bought it from Currys @ £235 and thought that was a great price.Hopefully someone will benefit



Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I think it's too much for a domestic router but that said it's not a bad price.

Personally there are 6 of us in my home with a 200Mb Fibre connection and I work 50% home for a Global IT company...I transfer hundreds of gib's per month....but then again my house is fully wired with Cat6

My router is a cheapo TP-Link Archer C9 AC1900 running DD-WRT

Edited by: "Uridium" 19th Dec 2016

Uridium

Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I … Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I think it's too much for a domestic router but that said it's not a bad price.Personally there are 6 of us in my home with a 200Mb Fibre connection and I work 50% home for a Global IT company...I transfer hundreds of gib's per month....but then again my house is fully wired with Cat6 :pMy router is a cheapo TP-Link Archer C9 AC1900 running DD-WRT


I think this Asus looks a lot cooler than the tp-link especially the red bits on the antenna. Not for me though the 3 bt hubs around the house suffice for me

Uridium

Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I … Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I think it's too much for a domestic router but that said it's not a bad price.Personally there are 6 of us in my home with a 200Mb Fibre connection and I work 50% home for a Global IT company...I transfer hundreds of gib's per month....but then again my house is fully wired with Cat6 :pMy router is a cheapo TP-Link Archer C9 AC1900 running DD-WRT



That's a lot of torrenting with your cheapo router...no wonder you need that cat6 cabling

Is this better than a talktalk router?

jb66

Is this better than a talktalk router?



This one won't tell hackers your password for a start!

Heat from me Chuck. Looks like a fairly decent price for this router currently. Also notice it's a well spec'd gaming router with 8 gigabit ports, Wireless AC with Beamforming. Also sounds like the built in firewall is better than most cheaper routers out there too.

Not purchased my own router since the days of the Dlink Gamerlounge gaming router as I usually put up with what VM supply these days. However if I needed a top notch router with a decent firewall and built in switch I'd certainly consider this!.

Cold, not enough aerials

jb66

Is this better than a talktalk router?



If your router is that little black box that they've been dishing out then absolutely it is...no contest. In fact most if not all service providers wouldn't supply a router anywhere near this good...at least not for free

jb66

Cold, not enough aerials



Ah ok....should've realised you were being sarcastic as opposed to asking a serious question....my bad !

chucknorrispc

It all depends on how much technology you have in your property which … It all depends on how much technology you have in your property which rely on a solid connection. I wouldnt expect someone with an ADSL line with three people in the house to justify the expense but someone who has a larger family and/or works from home.. Makes a difference.It's the cheapest it's been from a reputable seller, I personally bought it from Currys @ £235 and thought that was a great price.Hopefully someone will benefit



TBH this is overkill for most home users - you're normally far better off having multiple access points for better coverage, rather than one super powerful one that gives you high speeds in one room and barely a connection at the other end of the house.

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Uridium

Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I … Yes each to their own I guess. Not decided on voting either way yet as I think it's too much for a domestic router but that said it's not a bad price.Personally there are 6 of us in my home with a 200Mb Fibre connection and I work 50% home for a Global IT company...I transfer hundreds of gib's per month....but then again my house is fully wired with Cat6 :pMy router is a cheapo TP-Link Archer C9 AC1900 running DD-WRT



I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through work via a VPN and on average its around 500Gb of data. Having Cat6 cabling at home is one thing but the central hub they all route to is entirely another, one can only assume you're the only power user in the house and others are on tablets.

Like I say, it all depends what you want from a router, personally working in the IT sector I wouldn't consider TP-Link for any of my networking needs

bma1445

TBH this is overkill for most home users - you're normally far better off … TBH this is overkill for most home users - you're normally far better off having multiple access points for better coverage, rather than one super powerful one that gives you high speeds in one room and barely a connection at the other end of the house.



Of course it is. It's pretty high end kit. It's worthwhile if you benefit from its feature set.

Multiple APs suit some but it depends on house layout etc and making sure you configure to avoid channel overlap. Personally I use a router in conjunction with both regular cat6 and powerlines. For this house it works great currently.

chucknorrispc

I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through … I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through work via a VPN and on average its around 500Gb of data. Having Cat6 cabling at home is one thing but the central hub they all route to is entirely another, one can only assume you're the only power user in the house and others are on tablets.Like I say, it all depends what you want from a router, personally working in the IT sector I wouldn't consider TP-Link for any of my networking needs



Same here...and couldn't agree more mate

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bma1445

TBH this is overkill for most home users - you're normally far better off … TBH this is overkill for most home users - you're normally far better off having multiple access points for better coverage, rather than one super powerful one that gives you high speeds in one room and barely a connection at the other end of the house.



TBH I think you don't see the point of a capable router with more advanced features, it isn't just about the wireless range..

I have a couple of Uni-Fi Pro AP in the house in conjunction with this and like Dazaa says, they work perfectly.

chucknorrispc

I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through … I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through work via a VPN and on average its around 500Gb of data. Having Cat6 cabling at home is one thing but the central hub they all route to is entirely another, one can only assume you're the only power user in the house and others are on tablets.Like I say, it all depends what you want from a router, personally working in the IT sector I wouldn't consider TP-Link for any of my networking needs



The cheapo TP-Link he has and this are both built on the same SoC and the same kernel and operating system. If you are serious enough about avoiding TP-Link then you'd want to avoid this too.

Buying one of the these routers for me would be like buying a Ferrari to drive in London.

Although only using a Virgin Superhub my signal is lousy due to the amount of wirless interference from neighbours. The bigger wireless bandwidths means people are now grabbing more channels and everybody's router is just fighting for the same space.

Looks like a nice bit of kit but couldn't justify £200 on a router, just doesn't seem right.

chucknorrispc

I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through … I have the 300Mbit service from Virgin and also download data through work via a VPN and on average its around 500Gb of data. Having Cat6 cabling at home is one thing but the central hub they all route to is entirely another, one can only assume you're the only power user in the house and others are on tablets.Like I say, it all depends what you want from a router, personally working in the IT sector I wouldn't consider TP-Link for any of my networking needs


You'd be surprised how good that little tp link router is. It does a grand little job to be honest. Internal traffic is all carried by a pair of Cisco 3750g's tucked away in the loft. Most devices are wired in my house, just the odd phone and tablet using WiFi.

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nublets2k

The cheapo TP-Link he has and this are both built on the same SoC and the … The cheapo TP-Link he has and this are both built on the same SoC and the same kernel and operating system. If you are serious enough about avoiding TP-Link then you'd want to avoid this too.



I suggest you look again, the C3150 is essentially the same router but as for the software being the same thats utter nonsense.

Uridiums router has the Broadcom BCM4709A Vs Broadcom BCM4709C0KFEBG, BIG difference and if you think they're the same then I suggest looking up smallnetbuilder to refamiliarise yourself with the internal mechanics.

Lastly since you mentioned the SOC, you'll find the only two around are Broadcomm and Qualcomm with the majority running Broadcomm. Many electronic items share the same SOC with refinements made to the PCB, Cooling and firmware.

People can buy which ever they would like, this is the best deal available for this router

Original Poster

Uridium

You'd be surprised how good that little tp link router is. It does a … You'd be surprised how good that little tp link router is. It does a grand little job to be honest. Internal traffic is all carried by a pair of Cisco 3750g's tucked away in the loft. Most devices are wired in my house, just the odd phone and tablet using WiFi.



I dont doubt its capable and ultimately if it works for you, thats all that matters.

It's interesting you couldn't justify the cost for this yet the cost of those switches in their time would have surpassed this.. Why not a cheap 48 port gigabit Netgear? Same job and all that

My guess is you're like me and get given the option to have some nice freebies before the company has to recycle them.

chucknorrispc

I dont doubt its capable and ultimately if it works for you, thats all … I dont doubt its capable and ultimately if it works for you, thats all that matters.It's interesting you couldn't justify the cost for this yet the cost of those switches in their time would have surpassed this.. Why not a cheap 48 port gigabit Netgear? Same job and all that ;)My guess is you're like me and get given the option to have some nice freebies before the company has to recycle them.



Indeed....switches recycled on the way to the company skip......(_;)

chucknorrispc

I suggest you look again, the C3150 is essentially the same router but as … I suggest you look again, the C3150 is essentially the same router but as for the software being the same thats utter nonsense.



They're both running Linux 2.6.36 built with the same toolchain and have the same set of binaries. The front end doesn't have to look the same for the underlying system to be, they're still going to be using iptables/nftables, dnsmasq, pppd and openvpn etc.

chucknorrispc

Uridiums router has the Broadcom BCM4709A Vs Broadcom BCM4709C0KFEBG, BIG … Uridiums router has the Broadcom BCM4709A Vs Broadcom BCM4709C0KFEBG, BIG difference and if you think they're the same then I suggest looking up smallnetbuilder to refamiliarise yourself with the internal mechanics.



The BCM4709A and BCM4709C are revisions of the same chip just at different clocks. They're still both dual core ARM Cortex A9s with the same memory controller, usb host, 5 port gb switch and 3 lane pci-e bus.

The extra MHz does give the 4709C better performance no question, but it's not a fancy new state of the art chip.

chucknorrispc

Lastly since you mentioned the SOC, you'll find the only two around are … Lastly since you mentioned the SOC, you'll find the only two around are Broadcomm and Qualcomm with the majority running Broadcomm.



So what about Intel, Marvell, Mediatek and Realtek?

chucknorrispc

Many electronic items share the same SOC with refinements made to the … Many electronic items share the same SOC with refinements made to the PCB, Cooling and firmware.People can buy which ever they would like, this is the best deal available for this router



That is correct.

I'm sure this is a very good router ....however, why would you want to buy something that looks like a Spaceship??

IMO ...seperate and dedicated Wireless Access Point (fitted in the correct and prime location) Is the way to go!

Ubiquiti is the NUTTS!

Thx

Original Poster


They're both running Linux 2.6.36 built with the same toolchain and have … They're both running Linux 2.6.36 built with the same toolchain and have the same set of binaries. The front end doesn't have to look the same for the underlying system to be, they're still going to be using iptables/nftables, dnsmasq, pppd and openvpn etc.


nublets2k

They're both running Linux 2.6.36 built with the same toolchain and have … They're both running Linux 2.6.36 built with the same toolchain and have the same set of binaries. The front end doesn't have to look the same for the underlying system to be, they're still going to be using iptables/nftables, dnsmasq, pppd and openvpn etc.The BCM4709A and BCM4709C are revisions of the same chip just at different clocks. They're still both dual core ARM Cortex A9s with the same memory controller, usb host, 5 port gb switch and 3 lane pci-e bus.The extra MHz does give the 4709C better performance no question, but it's not a fancy new state of the art chip.So what about Intel, Marvell, Mediatek and Realtek? ;)That is correct.



All things aren't created equal, revisions are made to chipsets for a reason hence the intel tick-tock approach and having the same base kernel is massively different to front end refinements, so it's daft to say otherwise as you don't know the true difference between the two. I would say unless you own them both and want to do a comparison to contradict every review site showing the superior throughput from the AC88u, it's best to vote cold or hot


some light reading for you tomshardware.co.uk/rou…tml

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shinds

I'm sure this is a very good router ....however, why would you want to … I'm sure this is a very good router ....however, why would you want to buy something that looks like a Spaceship??IMO ...seperate and dedicated Wireless Access Point (fitted in the correct and prime location) Is the way to go!Ubiquiti is the NUTTS!Thx



Troll? Ubiquiti look more like a Spaceship than this.. (_;)

I am moving from our house which has 38mb sky fibre with a Billion 8800NL vdsl/router to a new home in the sticks which can only get standard 17mb BT broadband. Is the ac88u going to improve things for me? I have a desktop which will connect direct to the router, a gigabit powerline to connect steam link to the router and a host of household devices connected over wifi. Thought I would check if this is a waste of money for bog standard broadband

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HotUKBobbyDazzler

I am moving from our house which has 38mb sky fibre with a Billion 8800NL … I am moving from our house which has 38mb sky fibre with a Billion 8800NL vdsl/router to a new home in the sticks which can only get standard 17mb BT broadband. Is the ac88u going to improve things for me? I have a desktop which will connect direct to the router, a gigabit powerline to connect steam link to the router and a host of household devices connected over wifi. Thought I would check if this is a waste of money for bog standard broadband



I would say it is overkill tbh, why not try something like the Netgear R7000.

chucknorrispc

I would say it is overkill tbh, why not try something like the Netgear … I would say it is overkill tbh, why not try something like the Netgear R7000.


Thanks, just trying to eek the most out of the limited DL and UL speed that BT will allow but if the R7000 or similar will manage 4k streaming, online gaming on the xbox and steam link without any lag or buffering I will go with that. Cheers

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HotUKBobbyDazzler

Thanks, just trying to eek the most out of the limited DL and UL speed … Thanks, just trying to eek the most out of the limited DL and UL speed that BT will allow but if the R7000 or similar will manage 4k streaming, online gaming on the xbox and steam link without any lag or buffering I will go with that. Cheers


The R7000 will be absolutely fine for those tasks, Amazon have had it for £100 recently so keep your eyes open.

The external antennas are fake don't you know, just for show. That's horrible.

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snapdragon

The external antennas are fake don't you know, just for show. That's … The external antennas are fake don't you know, just for show. That's horrible.



They're not fake, your hat just dampens the signal

Marky67

How does this router … How does this router https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-RT-AC3200-Tri-Band-Gigabit-Router/dp/B00Y2NVH4O/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1481913524&sr=8-9&keywords=ac+router fair against the AC88U?



Have a look here: http://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?j=3442490,3018134

tldr;
Half the gigabit ports, not wall mountable, lower throughput on WiFi with no MU-MIMO and finally it's got half the RAM onboard.

HTH
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