Asus X102BA Touch Laptop Windows 8 + Office 2013 £159 @ Ebuyer
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Asus X102BA Touch Laptop Windows 8 + Office 2013 £159 @ Ebuyer

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Found 17th Aug 2015
AMD A4-1200 1GHz
4GB RAM + 500GB HDD
10.1" Touchscreen
HD Webcam + AMD HD 8180G
Windows 8 + Microsoft Office 2013

Thoughts?

31 Comments

any good?

Original Poster

not bad for the price really looking at it

1616french

any good?



Typical netbook. Might be acceptable if you're likely to want something difference in two or three years

1616french

any good?



No, it is definitely not good!

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…APU

I would personally bag one of these;

ebay.co.uk/itm…ab2

It has a passmark triple that of the one in this deal...and much better build quality. Just make sure you stick an SSD in it and you'll have yourself a superb little laptop!

Won one of these on eBay last night for £100 so will report back if any good, had a play in Argos last week and seems quite smooth , will test a few low end games.
The worry with link above is grade C, could be very ropey condition.
Edited by: "thedvdmonster" 17th Aug 2015

thedvdmonster

Won one of these on eBay last night for £100 so will report back if any … Won one of these on eBay last night for £100 so will report back if any good, had a play in Argos last week and seems quite smooth , will test a few low end games. The worry with link above is grade C, could be very ropey condition.



True, but there will be no marks on the screen, and the laptop itself is so much better in all regards. It also has a 12 month warranty.

Also, a passmark of 600 is really, really poor....and I'm sure I've read various threads about people buying these X102BA's and being frustrated with the performance (even after installing SSD's etc!).

The A4-1200 is just a bad processor. You'll soon discover this unfortunately.

Personally, if the 10" size is important, then I'd keep an eye out for one of those Miix 3's from Very/John Lewis. It only has a 32GB eMMC, but it has a Full HD screen, a great form factor, and a processor/ram/eMMC combo that gives v.fluid performance.

The battery life on this is rather good - though it does choke if you chuck more than a few things on it. It's a laptop aimed at being light and portable thats able to cope with typing and the occassional youtube video. I'm tempted to get an SSD and see if it helps. If you want performance the dell and lenovo refurbs that always go hot here are the best option though. Want performance and battery life in a small form factor and you have to pay for it. Not voting either way though

slayermatt

The battery life on this is rather good - though it does choke if you … The battery life on this is rather good - though it does choke if you chuck more than a few things on it. It's a laptop aimed at being light and portable thats able to cope with typing and the occassional youtube video. I'm tempted to get an SSD and see if it helps. If you want performance the dell and lenovo refurbs that always go hot here are the best option though. Want performance and battery life in a small form factor and you have to pay for it. Not voting either way though



The Miix 3 has very good form factor, v.good performance (by comparison), and good battery life. That was selling for £123 from Very recently. Comes back into stock fairly often too...
Edited by: "wenttoabetterplace" 17th Aug 2015

wenttoabetterplace

The Miix 3 has very good form factor, v.good performance (by comparison), … The Miix 3 has very good form factor, v.good performance (by comparison), and good battery life. That was selling for £123 from Very recently. Comes back into stock fairly often too...


Tablet combined with low storage puts me off slightly - that's going to be an absolute biatch to upgrade to Windows 10 if you don't do it straight away for example. The keyboard is in a fixed position meaning you can't adjust the screen and so on.

Don't get me wrong its a great piece of kit but I'd rather a laptop over a tablet in most cases and I'm sure a lot of people would too. Although this might as well be a low end tablet with a keyboard attached.... This laptop is functional though for most peoples needs - just don't push it (like I try too X) )

slayermatt

Tablet combined with low storage puts me off slightly - that's going to … Tablet combined with low storage puts me off slightly - that's going to be an absolute biatch to upgrade to Windows 10 if you don't do it straight away for example. The keyboard is in a fixed position meaning you can't adjust the screen and so on.Don't get me wrong its a great piece of kit but I'd rather a laptop over a tablet in most cases and I'm sure a lot of people would too. Although this might as well be a low end tablet with a keyboard attached.... This laptop is functional though for most peoples needs - just don't push it (like I try too X) )



Not strictly true about the upgrade to Windows 10, I have a HP Stream 13 with a 32gb HDD and once the upgrade pushed to the laptop, it was easy to do! Don't try and force the upgrade as it won't give the option of using an external HDD for the upgrade process and fails with the now famous 'Oops something went wrong' error message! But, I plugged in a 32gb USB pen drive, and selected that as the drive for the upgrade files and it automatically created a backup of the OS also for future use and took about an hour to complete. Was pretty effortless in all honesty.

ben1979

Not strictly true about the upgrade to Windows 10, I have a HP Stream 13 … Not strictly true about the upgrade to Windows 10, I have a HP Stream 13 with a 32gb HDD and once the upgrade pushed to the laptop, it was easy to do! Don't try and force the upgrade as it won't give the option of using an external HDD for the upgrade process and fails with the now famous 'Oops something went wrong' error message! But, I plugged in a 32gb USB pen drive, and selected that as the drive for the upgrade files and it automatically created a backup of the OS also for future use and took about an hour to complete. Was pretty effortless in all honesty.


Really? My friend tried to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 on a 64gb SSD. It was a massive PITA - in the end had to just format the drive, install 7 again and then upgrade 10 frorm the clean install. Nice to know about the USB pen drive though. I am tempted as I need something with good battery life for Uni that isn't sluggish (although it's not going to be running anything major) but I'm going to upgrade my x102b to Win 10 first and see if that helps it. I've been looknig at the 13" thinkpads on the Lenovo site but a bit pricey for what they are.

slayermatt

Really? My friend tried to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 on a 64gb SSD. It … Really? My friend tried to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 on a 64gb SSD. It was a massive PITA - in the end had to just format the drive, install 7 again and then upgrade 10 frorm the clean install. Nice to know about the USB pen drive though. I am tempted as I need something with good battery life for Uni that isn't sluggish (although it's not going to be running anything major) but I'm going to upgrade my x102b to Win 10 first and see if that helps it. I've been looknig at the 13" thinkpads on the Lenovo site but a bit pricey for what they are.



What I found too with the Stream as an example, with all my various apps etc installed I was left with about 4.7gb of HDD free. This was never a problem thanks to the micro sdcard slot(64gb sitting nicely in there) and the 1TB of One Drive Storage(free with office 365) and various other online storage options I use. But after Windows 10 was installed and a few restarts later, a few HP updates(sorting the trackpad issue I had with regards to gesture control on the trackpad) and I am now left with over 5.3gb of free storage, it runs like a dream and I have yet to encounter any real problems.

ben1979

What I found too with the Stream as an example, with all my various apps … What I found too with the Stream as an example, with all my various apps etc installed I was left with about 4.7gb of HDD free. This was never a problem thanks to the micro sdcard slot(64gb sitting nicely in there) and the 1TB of One Drive Storage(free with office 365) and various other online storage options I use. But after Windows 10 was installed and a few restarts later, a few HP updates(sorting the trackpad issue I had with regards to gesture control on the trackpad) and I am now left with over 5.3gb of free storage, it runs like a dream and I have yet to encounter any real problems.



Keep in mind that if you do a fresh installation, you will be able to delete all partitions (including the 4.5GB W8.1 recovery partition). In my case, on my Asus T100, that left me with almost 8GB more usable space!

wenttoabetterplace

Keep in mind that if you do a fresh installation, you will be able to … Keep in mind that if you do a fresh installation, you will be able to delete all partitions (including the 4.5GB W8.1 recovery partition). In my case, on my Asus T100, that left me with almost 8GB more usable space!



I would have done that, but the licence key isn't visible on the laptop(previous laptops/desktops have a COA on the unit somewhere).

I owned this briefly last year. Its as slow as hell. Bought mine together with the ms office for under £120 via dabs. Too expensive for what its is and YES, its damn slowwwwwwwwwww. Only SSD can salvage it probably

ben1979

I would have done that, but the licence key isn't visible on the … I would have done that, but the licence key isn't visible on the laptop(previous laptops/desktops have a COA on the unit somewhere).



The trick with Windows 10 is to do an initial in-situ upgrade (as you have done). This then ties the brand new Windows 10 licence to the device - and replaces the 8.1 key.

From this point onwards, any clean installations will check with MS servers for the device activation key. You don't ever need to supply a Windows COA key with clean installations if you follow this method

My little boy had one went wrong in 7 months

AMD processors accross the board leave much to be desired, not even sure why they're still used in pre-built machines of any kind to be honest.

opaninkofi

I owned this briefly last year. Its as slow as hell. Bought mine together … I owned this briefly last year. Its as slow as hell. Bought mine together with the ms office for under £120 via dabs. Too expensive for what its is and YES, its damn slowwwwwwwwwww. Only SSD can salvage it probably


I agree completely, my daughter got one and it is a dog, I doubt a SSD will help much, just best to avoid.

wenttoabetterplace

The trick with Windows 10 is to do an initial in-situ upgrade (as you … The trick with Windows 10 is to do an initial in-situ upgrade (as you have done). This then ties the brand new Windows 10 licence to the device - and replaces the 8.1 key.From this point onwards, any clean installations will check with MS servers for the device activation key. You don't ever need to supply a Windows COA key with clean installations if you follow this method



I've done plenty of Windows 10 upgrades now, what I'm finding is that many machines upgrade ok but there's plenty where quite serious problems occur, one of the most problematic is the start menu, settings and action center not working. To cure these can be difficult.

Some solutions:

Start menu / action center not working fix
1. Uninstall 3rd party security software
2. Use this solution it works for the final release
3.. Reset the Windows installation via recovery options

Settings app not working:
1. Use Emerging Issue Fix 67758

Some other issues are Culmative updates not installing, I've tried using DISM command line to repair, the fix I found was to reset the Windows installation, which is not ideal as you lose your installed programs (a list of the removed programs will be placed on the desktop automatically after completion so you can at least see what was removed)

To do a clean install of Windows 10:

Firstly update your Windows 7 or 8.1 install to 10 and make sure it says it's activated. Then using this to make a bootable USB and install using that >

windows.microsoft.com/en-…all

It is imperative that you DO NOT enter a licence key, you will be asked twice, once on initially installation and secondly once Windows is installed at the initial user setup. Don't enter a licence key it's that simple, as long as as your upgrade was activated then the clean install will activate.

If Cortana says it's not available in your area you need to do two things:
1. Install UK languge pack
2. Set it as the Primary language

If that still doesn't work you need to swap from a local or online account to the opposite and then back again. You will need an online account to use Cortana though.

My impression of Windows 10 is that it's definitely still a beta OS, it's really an apology for Windows 8.1, even though 8.1 actually isn't that bad. Is Windows 10 a fantastic next generation OS, pretty much NO is the answer to that. Is it better than Windows 8.1, well yes I suppose but it's not as stable. The Microsoft Edge browser is a tablet based browser, it doesn't even have a password manager. I guess you could say that Windows 10 has potential but I'm not overly impressed by it, and it's one of the worst fails for bugs and problems when upgrading in the entire history of MS OS's.

So why should you get Windows 10, well it's going to be essential if you're a gamer because of Direct X 12. What I've noticed is that Windows 10 will automatically choose the best Direct X installation for your current hardware, so if you run DXDIAG from Windows + R and you don't see DX12.1 then your hardware doesn't currently support that version, so you'll see Direct X 10.1 or 11.1.


Edited by: "fishmaster" 18th Aug 2015

Stick win10 on it and it'll probably be fine, I installed it on an old atom netbook half the power of this, and it's useable again.

fishmaster

I've done plenty of Windows 10 upgrades now, what I'm finding is that … I've done plenty of Windows 10 upgrades now, what I'm finding is that many machines upgrade ok but there's plenty where quite serious problems occur, one of the most problematic is the start menu, settings and action center not working. To cure these can be difficult. Some solutions:Start menu / action center not working fix 1. Uninstall 3rd party security software2. Use this solution it works for the final release3.. Reset the Windows installation via recovery optionsSettings app not working:1. Use Emerging Issue Fix 67758Some other issues are Culmative updates not installing, I've tried using DISM command line to repair, the fix I found was to reset the Windows installation, which is not ideal as you lose your installed programs (a list of the removed programs will be placed on the desktop automatically after completion so you can at least see what was removed)To do a clean install of Windows 10:Firstly update your Windows 7 or 8.1 install to 10 and make sure it says it's activated. Then using this to make a bootable USB and install using that >http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation-tool-installIt is imperative that you DO NOT enter a licence key, you will be asked twice, once on initially installation and secondly once Windows is installed at the initial user setup. Don't enter a licence key it's that simple, as long as as your upgrade was activated then the clean install will activate.If Cortana says it's not available in your area you need to do two things:1. Install UK languge pack2. Set it as the Primary languageIf that still doesn't work you need to swap from a local or online account to the opposite and then back again. You will need an online account to use Cortana though.My impression of Windows 10 is that it's definitely still a beta OS, it's really an apology for Windows 8.1, even though 8.1 actually isn't that bad. Is Windows 10 a fantastic next generation OS, pretty much NO is the answer to that. Is it better than Windows 8.1, well yes I suppose but it's not as stable. The Microsoft Edge browser is a tablet based browser, it doesn't even have a password manager. I guess you could say that Windows 10 has potential but I'm not overly impressed by it, and it's one of the worst fails for bugs and problems when upgrading in the entire history of MS OS's.So why should you get Windows 10, well it's going to be essential if you're a gamer because of Direct X 12. What I've noticed is that Windows 10 will automatically choose the best Direct X installation for your current hardware, so if you run DXDIAG from Windows + R and you don't see DX12.1 then your hardware doesn't currently support that version, so you'll see Direct X 10.1 or 11.1.



Strangely, I have DirectX version 11.2. I wasn't expecting anything better given that I'm using an Atom Z3740. However, what I have noticed is that Asphalt 8 runs incredibly well now - whereas before, it would (infrequently) stutter.
Also, I can now stream 4K Youtube videos using Firefox, where I couldn't on 8.1.

The only bugs of note that I have found is that the start button doesn't work sometimes (once a week or so), and Edge freezes. Given that Asus have yet to release the updated Windows 10 BIOS, I am personally v.impressed with the stability. I certainly have no regrets about upgrading

wenttoabetterplace

Strangely, I have DirectX version 11.2. I wasn't expecting anything … Strangely, I have DirectX version 11.2. I wasn't expecting anything better given that I'm using an Atom Z3740. However, what I have noticed is that Asphalt 8 runs incredibly well now - whereas before, it would (infrequently) stutter. Also, I can now stream 4K Youtube videos using Firefox, where I couldn't on 8.1.The only bugs of note that I have found is that the start button doesn't work sometimes (once a week or so), and Edge freezes. Given that Asus have yet to release the updated Windows 10 BIOS, I am personally v.impressed with the stability. I certainly have no regrets about upgrading



I've installed it on my XW6600 Workstation, I forget what problem I had, but I ended up resetting the install and now it runs fairly well. The low rez icons and tray icons are awful though, it's certainly far removed from the professional looking OSX which I sometimes use on my Mac Mini.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 18th Aug 2015

fishmaster

I've installed it on my XW6600 Workstation, I forget what problem I had, … I've installed it on my XW6600 Workstation, I forget what problem I had, but I ended up resetting the install and now it runs fairly well. The low rez icons and trays icons are awful though, it's certainly far removed from the professional looking OSX which I sometimes use on my Mac Mini.



There are definitely plenty of rough UI edges. But given the awful state it was in just a few months back, I am personally v.pleased with where things stand right now. Performance and battery life have both improved for me (iTunes for example is now actually enjoyable to use...whereas before, it would bring my system to a juddering halt!).

Given I only paid £130 for my Asus T100 more than 2 years ago, I am simply amazed that I can play 4K YouTube videos, edit 1080P videos, play games like Asphalt, and still rarely exceed my 2GB RAM limitation. With value like this, I can overlook some of the (current) shortcomings with Windows 10. & I shall be looking forward to the improvements that will inevitably be made with the next refresh in October.

wenttoabetterplace

There are definitely plenty of rough UI edges. But given the awful state … There are definitely plenty of rough UI edges. But given the awful state it was in just a few months back, I am personally v.pleased with where things stand right now. Performance and battery life have both improved for me (iTunes for example is now actually enjoyable to use...whereas before, it would bring my system to a juddering halt!).Given I only paid £130 for my Asus T100 more than 2 years ago, I am simply amazed that I can play 4K YouTube videos, edit 1080P videos, play games like Asphalt, and still rarely exceed my 2GB RAM limitation. With value like this, I can overlook some of the (current) shortcomings with Windows 10. & I shall be looking forward to the improvements that will inevitably be made with the next refresh in October.



Yes I agree there that Windows 10 is extending the lifetime of even some quite old hardware. However it's quite rough and dare I say it quite unprofessional. When the Windows 10 beta releases/previews were being created you could easily see that rather than leading with adefinite plan, Microsoft were testing the water and getting feedback from many many users. Which means Windows 10 is a play it safe OS because they got it so wrong in ways with Windows 8. Microsoft rather than having a clue what to do next left it up to be a community release which ultimately means it's a compromised operating system.

I guess in summary I feel that Windows 10 could have be so much more, but that ethos of being an innovative world leader is long gone from Microsoft and perhaps never was there, just a case of doing the right thing at the right time. After all McDonalds is successful because it meets a mass market appeal, it doesn't have anything to do with innovation or class leading in terms of food. Microsoft is the McDonalds of computing, mass market appeal but ultimately quality suffers. That's not to say that I speak kindly of Google and the software they produce, plenty of that including Android is awfully shoddy.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 18th Aug 2015

opaninkofi

I owned this briefly last year. Its as slow as hell. Bought mine together … I owned this briefly last year. Its as slow as hell. Bought mine together with the ms office for under £120 via dabs. Too expensive for what its is and YES, its damn slowwwwwwwwwww. Only SSD can salvage it probably


Exactly the same experience here, bought from Dabs at £119 as a 'refurb' (actually brand new so they must have been clearing them out). I did fit an SSD and that only improved usability a little bit. Didn't get as far as the Win 10 upgrade. I found I rarely used the touchscreen on it so sold it on eBay for what I paid for it, having removed the SSD.

Pity because it seemed very promising - v light and great looking in met. blue. Replaced it with a Toshiba 13" Chromebook for similar money which is brilliant for my purposes and twice as good as this Asus IMO.

fishmaster

Strangely, I have DirectX version 11.2. I wasn't expecting anything … Strangely, I have DirectX version 11.2. I wasn't expecting anything better given that I'm using an Atom Z3740. However, what I have noticed is that Asphalt 8 runs incredibly well now - whereas before, it would (infrequently) stutter. Also, I can now stream 4K Youtube to do next left it up to be a community release which ultimately means it's a compromised operating system.I guess in summary I feel that Windows 10 could have be so much more, but that ethos of being an innovative world leader is long gone from Microsoft and perhaps never was there, just a case of doing the right thing at the right time. After all McDonalds is successful because it meets a mass market appeal, it doesn't have anything to do with innovation or class leading in terms of food. Microsoft is the McDonalds of computing, mass market appeal but ultimately quality suffers. That's not to say that I speak kindly of Google and the software they produce, plenty of that including Android is awfully shoddy.



You say it's a compromised operating system, but I personally don't see it like that. It has a unified (and pretty well stocked) app store, a genuinely useful digital assistant, a system wide notification system, and a v.lightweight footprint that works effectively on £50 tablets with just 16GB of storage. It is heading in exactly the direction it needs to in order to counter Android (and to a lesser extent, Mac/iOS).

I dare say that if we were having this conversation this time next year, then our respective grumblings at the OS would be long gone. For me, it is a v.logical and sensible next step.

Banned

fishmaster

I've done plenty of Windows 10 upgrades now, what I'm finding is that … I've done plenty of Windows 10 upgrades now, what I'm finding is that many machines upgrade ok but there's plenty where quite serious problems occur, one of the most problematic is the start menu, settings and action center not working. To cure these can be difficult. Some solutions:Start menu / action center not working fix 1. Uninstall 3rd party security software2. Use this solution it works for the final release3.. Reset the Windows installation via recovery optionsSettings app not working:1. Use Emerging Issue Fix 67758Some other issues are Culmative updates not installing, I've tried using DISM command line to repair, the fix I found was to reset the Windows installation, which is not ideal as you lose your installed programs (a list of the removed programs will be placed on the desktop automatically after completion so you can at least see what was removed)To do a clean install of Windows 10:Firstly update your Windows 7 or 8.1 install to 10 and make sure it says it's activated. Then using this to make a bootable USB and install using that >http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation-tool-installIt is imperative that you DO NOT enter a licence key, you will be asked twice, once on initially installation and secondly once Windows is installed at the initial user setup. Don't enter a licence key it's that simple, as long as as your upgrade was activated then the clean install will activate.If Cortana says it's not available in your area you need to do two things:1. Install UK languge pack2. Set it as the Primary languageIf that still doesn't work you need to swap from a local or online account to the opposite and then back again. You will need an online account to use Cortana though.My impression of Windows 10 is that it's definitely still a beta OS, it's really an apology for Windows 8.1, even though 8.1 actually isn't that bad. Is Windows 10 a fantastic next generation OS, pretty much NO is the answer to that. Is it better than Windows 8.1, well yes I suppose but it's not as stable. The Microsoft Edge browser is a tablet based browser, it doesn't even have a password manager. I guess you could say that Windows 10 has potential but I'm not overly impressed by it, and it's one of the worst fails for bugs and problems when upgrading in the entire history of MS OS's.So why should you get Windows 10, well it's going to be essential if you're a gamer because of Direct X 12. What I've noticed is that Windows 10 will automatically choose the best Direct X installation for your current hardware, so if you run DXDIAG from Windows + R and you don't see DX12.1 then your hardware doesn't currently support that version, so you'll see Direct X 10.1 or 11.1.




I have 3 machines I've attempted with so far.

My i7 laptop refuses to upgrade. For some reason, the last couple of windows 8.1 updates are refusing to install. Every few days, windows will force the update, reboot my machine, install, fail to install, uninstall it's attempt, then reboot without the upgrade. Then repeat a few days later. Trying to install windows 10, it refuses without these updates. It is a genuine licensed copy of windows 8.1

Another machine went through without problems. Again, a licensed copy of windows 8.1

The last machine has a hooky windows7. It hasn't been activated. (Bought off eBay 2 years ago.) it asks for a serial number and says it won't install. I don't want to do a fresh install. Any ideas?

365pizza

I have 3 machines I've attempted with so far.My i7 laptop refuses to … I have 3 machines I've attempted with so far.My i7 laptop refuses to upgrade. For some reason, the last couple of windows 8.1 updates are refusing to install. Every few days, windows will force the update, reboot my machine, install, fail to install, uninstall it's attempt, then reboot without the upgrade. Then repeat a few days later. Trying to install windows 10, it refuses without these updates. It is a genuine licensed copy of windows 8.1Another machine went through without problems. Again, a licensed copy of windows 8.1The last machine has a hooky windows7. It hasn't been activated. (Bought off eBay 2 years ago.) it asks for a serial number and says it won't install. I don't want to do a fresh install. Any ideas?



​Use a free tool called tweaking AIO for any machines that have issues with windows updates. It takes some time to run through all the stages. Make sure you run it in safe mode (sign out of win 8 and hold shift before selecting restart)
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