ASUS Z500M ZenPad   Tablet £50 off - £249.99 at Curry's
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ASUS Z500M ZenPad Tablet £50 off - £249.99 at Curry's

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For a premium Android tablet, its pretty much a choice between this, Galaxy Tab S2/S3, Lenovo Tab 4 Plus or Huawei Mediapad M3.

Unfortunately, all of these are either getting a bit long in the tooth or are missing something:-
- Asus, Mediatek CPU, no OLED screen.
- Galaxy Tab S2, only Micro USB, old CPU, rubbish FP scanner, only 3GB RAM.
- Galaxy Tab S3, rubbish FP scanner, still not top CPU considering price. Way overpriced.
- Lenovo, only SD625, no OLED screen. FP scanner on side.
- Mediapad M3, no OLED screen, only Micro USB.

The market is just gagging for someone like One Plus to come in with the following for about £350:-
- OLED screen
- USB type C
- One plus/Huawei quality FP scanner
- SD835
- 6GB RAM
- Android 8
- Available on UK high street/Amazon with UK support/warranty etc.
Edited by: "Masteryates" 25th Jan
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Have been £269.00 at John Lewis for quite a while but their price has now gone up. I have one and paid £269 so hot from me
For a premium Android tablet, its pretty much a choice between this, Galaxy Tab S2/S3, Lenovo Tab 4 Plus or Huawei Mediapad M3.

Unfortunately, all of these are either getting a bit long in the tooth or are missing something:-
- Asus, Mediatek CPU, no OLED screen.
- Galaxy Tab S2, only Micro USB, old CPU, rubbish FP scanner, only 3GB RAM.
- Galaxy Tab S3, rubbish FP scanner, still not top CPU considering price. Way overpriced.
- Lenovo, only SD625, no OLED screen. FP scanner on side.
- Mediapad M3, no OLED screen, only Micro USB.

The market is just gagging for someone like One Plus to come in with the following for about £350:-
- OLED screen
- USB type C
- One plus/Huawei quality FP scanner
- SD835
- 6GB RAM
- Android 8
- Available on UK high street/Amazon with UK support/warranty etc.
Edited by: "Masteryates" 25th Jan
Masteryates20 m ago

For a premium Android tablet, its pretty much a choice between this, …For a premium Android tablet, its pretty much a choice between this, Galaxy Tab S2/S3, Lenovo Tab 4 Plus or Huawei Mediapad M3. Unfortunately, all of these are either getting a bit long in the tooth or are missing something:-- Asus, Mediatek CPU, no OLED screen.- Galaxy Tab S2, only Micro USB, old CPU, rubbish FP scanner, only 3GB RAM.- Galaxy Tab S3, rubbish FP scanner, still not top CPU considering price. Way overpriced.- Lenovo, only SD625, no OLED screen. FP scanner on side.- Mediapad M3, no OLED screen, only Micro USB. The market is just gagging for someone like One Plus to come in with the following for about £350:-- OLED screen- USB type C- One plus/Huawei quality FP scanner- SD835- 6GB RAM- Android 8- Available on UK high street/Amazon with UK support/warranty etc.


Not a big enough market for someone to market a tablet with those specs for £350. Won't happen.
Bilbo196824 m ago

Not a big enough market for someone to market a tablet with those specs …Not a big enough market for someone to market a tablet with those specs for £350. Won't happen.


I have to disagree Bilbo. Whole lot of people who have the Tab S2, Nexus 7 2013, Nexus 9 etc. just gagging to upgrade.
Masteryates23 m ago

I have to disagree Bilbo. Whole lot of people who have the Tab S2, Nexus 7 …I have to disagree Bilbo. Whole lot of people who have the Tab S2, Nexus 7 2013, Nexus 9 etc. just gagging to upgrade.


Companies have obviously looked at the market and decided it's not there. Hence the fact no new tablets.
Bilbo19689 m ago

Companies have obviously looked at the market and decided it's not there. …Companies have obviously looked at the market and decided it's not there. Hence the fact no new tablets.


There are recent tablets Bilbo like the Galaxy Tab S3 or the Lenovo tab 4 plus. It's just that no company is putting together all the pieces. Take the Mediapad M3 for example, (which I picked up for only $200 in the US yesterday,) spend another $100 on upgrading the screen to OLED and putting in a bit more RAM and you're where we need to be.

What would you like to see, and what would you be prepared to pay?
Edited by: "Masteryates" 25th Jan
Masteryates6 m ago

There are recent tablets Bilbo like the Galaxy Tab S3 or the Lenovo tab 4 …There are recent tablets Bilbo like the Galaxy Tab S3 or the Lenovo tab 4 plus. It's just that no company is putting together all the pieces. Take the Mediapad M3 for example, (which I picked up for only $200 in the US yesterday,) spend another $100 on upgrading the screen to OLED and putting in a bit more RAM and you're where we need to be.What would you like to see, and what would you be prepared to pay?


I have the 128gb version of this one and it's fine. Due to the increasing size and popularity of phones this is where all the development money is going into at the moment and I don't see it changing.
Edited by: "Bilbo1968" 25th Jan
Bilbo196810 m ago

I have the 128gb version of this one and it's fine. Due to the increasing …I have the 128gb version of this one and it's fine. Due to the increasing size and popularity of phones this is where all the development money is going into at the moment and I don't see it changing.


I agree that for many previous 7" tablet users, the 6" phone is now fine. For me though, web pages are so much nicer on my 8" 4:3 screen than on my 5.5" 16:9 screen of my phone. My mother also loves the large text experience on her 9.7" tablet screen. We also must remember that phone costs are getting really expensive. If they keep going up, this may leave more commercial room for a high end tablet.

Which tablet do you own? Do you feel it has any compromises that could be sorted with minimal cost increase?
I had the mediapad m3 and it couldn't even play 1080p 60fps video without stuttering. Pathetic. Steer clear of these mediatek processors.
Masteryates12 m ago

I agree that for many previous 7" tablet users, the 6" phone is now fine. …I agree that for many previous 7" tablet users, the 6" phone is now fine. For me though, web pages are so much nicer on my 8" 4:3 screen than on my 5.5" 16:9 screen of my phone. My mother also loves the large text experience on her 9.7" tablet screen. We also must remember that phone costs are getting really expensive. If they keep going up, this may leave more commercial room for a high end tablet. Which tablet do you own? Do you feel it has any compromises that could be sorted with minimal cost increase?


I have this one in the deal and it does all I want. It fit's in nicely between my phone and my laptop.... I really don't think there is a market for a premium tablet at the moment. If there was I'm sure some company would fill it.
the bigger problem with tablets is the lack of updates ...

Android updates should be completely seperate what ever customisation that a manufacture does
jaju12320 m ago

I had the mediapad m3 and it couldn't even play 1080p 60fps video without …I had the mediapad m3 and it couldn't even play 1080p 60fps video without stuttering. Pathetic. Steer clear of these mediatek processors.

The M3 doesn't have a Mediatek SoC, it's a Kirin 950 with Mali T880 GPU. The only tablet with a really strong GPU, is the S3 but the cost is so high.
Bilbo196814 m ago

I have this one in the deal and it does all I want. It fit's in nicely …I have this one in the deal and it does all I want. It fit's in nicely between my phone and my laptop.... I really don't think there is a market for a premium tablet at the moment. If there was I'm sure some company would fill it.



I think Samsung attempted to fill this gap with the S3. If only they'd put a decent FP sensor on it.
jaju1232 h, 18 m ago

I had the mediapad m3 and it couldn't even play 1080p 60fps video without …I had the mediapad m3 and it couldn't even play 1080p 60fps video without stuttering. Pathetic. Steer clear of these mediatek processors.


Plays brilliantly on mine, it's a Snapdragon processor not Mediatek, nothing wrong with Mediatek either.
win2629 m ago

Plays brilliantly on mine, it's a Snapdragon processor not Mediatek, …Plays brilliantly on mine, it's a Snapdragon processor not Mediatek, nothing wrong with Mediatek either.


Well, if it doesn't work to play back anything above 1080p 30fps I consider it to not be fit for purpose. The majority of the content I watch on YouTube for example is 1080p 60. Thus far I've had a Kindle fire 10 with mediatek mt1873 and the mediapad m3 with a Kirin SoC and neither could smoothly play 1080p 60 or 1440p video let alone 4k.
jaju1231 h, 5 m ago

Well, if it doesn't work to play back anything above 1080p 30fps I …Well, if it doesn't work to play back anything above 1080p 30fps I consider it to not be fit for purpose. The majority of the content I watch on YouTube for example is 1080p 60. Thus far I've had a Kindle fire 10 with mediatek mt1873 and the mediapad m3 with a Kirin SoC and neither could smoothly play 1080p 60 or 1440p video let alone 4k.


Thanks for the info regarding devices that can play 1080p 60fps Jaju. Could the M3 handle 1080p 60fps when you put the screen into 1080p mode in the settings? Do you have a test video link that we can use as a test?
I'm happy with my sony Z1 tablet....wouldn't think of buying a tablet for anything over 200quid....thanks for posting and definitely a deal for some....not voting either way...just wanted to feel part of something
Edited by: "sxxychocolate" 25th Jan
Masteryates6 h, 13 m ago

Thanks for the info regarding devices that can play 1080p 60fps Jaju. …Thanks for the info regarding devices that can play 1080p 60fps Jaju. Could the M3 handle 1080p 60fps when you put the screen into 1080p mode in the settings? Do you have a test video link that we can use as a test?

I never tried that but I doubt the screen resolution setting will change it as the video decoding should be handled by the dedicated video decoder that comes along with the GPU and that operates the same way regardless of resolution setting. I just tried 1080p YouTube and also 1080p YouTube desktop mode with "stats for nerds" enabled to see dropped frames. However, usually the stuttering is quite obvious anyway.
great tablet, had mine for about a year now. Screen is crisp, fast processor, plays all video types i have thrown at it, expandable memory. Battery could be a bit better but charges fast so not that bad
jaju12311 h, 59 m ago

I never tried that but I doubt the screen resolution setting will change …I never tried that but I doubt the screen resolution setting will change it as the video decoding should be handled by the dedicated video decoder that comes along with the GPU and that operates the same way regardless of resolution setting. I just tried 1080p YouTube and also 1080p YouTube desktop mode with "stats for nerds" enabled to see dropped frames. However, usually the stuttering is quite obvious anyway.


Thanks for the info Jaju. I did a little digging around yesterday and discovered that when you buy an M3, by default, its set to some sort of compromised mode to save battery. Deep in the settings, you have to put it on performance to get the Kirin 950 firing on all cylinders. Can you send me a link to the test video you are using as I will test the M3 when the Mrs gets in in the USA?

I also tried testing my Tab S2 2015 on a Youtube 1080p 60fps video and it looked fine. How do you test for dropped frames?
Masteryates11 h, 10 m ago

Thanks for the info Jaju. I did a little digging around yesterday and …Thanks for the info Jaju. I did a little digging around yesterday and discovered that when you buy an M3, by default, its set to some sort of compromised mode to save battery. Deep in the settings, you have to put it on performance to get the Kirin 950 firing on all cylinders. Can you send me a link to the test video you are using as I will test the M3 when the Mrs gets in in the USA? I also tried testing my Tab S2 2015 on a Youtube 1080p 60fps video and it looked fine. How do you test for dropped frames?


You can go in the browser under desktop mode to YouTube and watch a 1080p 60fps video. Long press on the video player and go to "stats for nerds" and you can see dropped frames. However, on the m3 it was quite noticeable as a stutter every now and again, and it occurred on both web based and local video file playback. If it looks fine it probably is fine in general, but I'm also very sensitive to it personally.
On the m3 I'd assume the performance mode changes the CPU clock but I doubt it'll affect video playback as it mostly runs on the dedicated decoding hardware which is entirely independent of the CPU clock anyway.
I think the nvidia K1 shield is an excellent alternative at an affordable price, very worth considering imo
jaju12319 h, 16 m ago

You can go in the browser under desktop mode to YouTube and watch a 1080p …You can go in the browser under desktop mode to YouTube and watch a 1080p 60fps video. Long press on the video player and go to "stats for nerds" and you can see dropped frames. However, on the m3 it was quite noticeable as a stutter every now and again, and it occurred on both web based and local video file playback. If it looks fine it probably is fine in general, but I'm also very sensitive to it personally.On the m3 I'd assume the performance mode changes the CPU clock but I doubt it'll affect video playback as it mostly runs on the dedicated decoding hardware which is entirely independent of the CPU clock anyway.


Thanks for the detailed instructions jaju. Just tried this on my Tab S2 and it looks fine to me but the stats say frames are dropped.

Going back to the M3, it all depends on how the battery saving mode works. If just CPU is under clocked, it will make no difference as you say. On the other hand, the whole FSB may be turned down which affects everything. Let's see when the M3 arrives.
JCLARSSON4 h, 20 m ago

I think the nvidia K1 shield is an excellent alternative at an affordable …I think the nvidia K1 shield is an excellent alternative at an affordable price, very worth considering imo


The shield is held back by its lack of RAM. 2GB isn't great today, never mind in a few years. As tablets generally last longer than phones, if you can afford it, I'd recommend 4GB RAM in a new device. Let's hope Nvidia come out with an update.
Edited by: "Masteryates" 27th Jan
Masteryates4 h, 6 m ago

The shield is held back by its lack of RAM. 2GB isn't great today, never …The shield is held back by its lack of RAM. 2GB isn't great today, never mind in a few years. As tablets generally last longer than phones, if you can afford it, I'd recommend 4GB RAM in a new device. Let's hope Nvidia come out with an update.


I use mine every day and must say. For Netflix and YouTube it's great. And for games it's superb.
JCLARSSON17 h, 50 m ago

I use mine every day and must say. For Netflix and YouTube it's great. And …I use mine every day and must say. For Netflix and YouTube it's great. And for games it's superb.


There is little wrong with the shield if you don't have many things open. The trouble comes when you have lots of chrome tabs open or a big game. When you press the home button and go back later, those things are forced to reload. As someone who always has at least 3 or 4 tabs open for fantasy football, this is really annoying.
Masteryates27th Jan

Thanks for the detailed instructions jaju. Just tried this on my Tab S2 …Thanks for the detailed instructions jaju. Just tried this on my Tab S2 and it looks fine to me but the stats say frames are dropped.Going back to the M3, it all depends on how the battery saving mode works. If just CPU is under clocked, it will make no difference as you say. On the other hand, the whole FSB may be turned down which affects everything. Let's see when the M3 arrives.


Yeah I just got my S2 and it's also dropping frames. My Snapdragon 820 and 835 devices are all totally smooth at 1080p 60 and even 4k 60fps video. It's a shame that these earlier non-qualcomm devices can't run it properly... Almost no tablets run a high end Qualcomm processor.
jaju12329th Jan

Yeah I just got my S2 and it's also dropping frames. My Snapdragon 820 and …Yeah I just got my S2 and it's also dropping frames. My Snapdragon 820 and 835 devices are all totally smooth at 1080p 60 and even 4k 60fps video. It's a shame that these earlier non-qualcomm devices can't run it properly... Almost no tablets run a high end Qualcomm processor.


Good to know jaju. One thing I did notice in testing was that different browsers had very different performance in desktop mode. For instance Habit browser wasn't even able to pull enough data to play the 1080p 60 video. Chrome was better but the youtube app was better than both and I couldn't see any frames being dropped, (but the stats for nerds was not available.)

The Mrs got her M3 only yesterday and it had a 2.8GB update when she first turned it on, taking to Android 7. Will ask her to perform the same test in a few days time. I take it you was on Android 6 when you tested an M3?
Masteryates10 h, 17 m ago

Good to know jaju. One thing I did notice in testing was that different …Good to know jaju. One thing I did notice in testing was that different browsers had very different performance in desktop mode. For instance Habit browser wasn't even able to pull enough data to play the 1080p 60 video. Chrome was better but the youtube app was better than both and I couldn't see any frames being dropped, (but the stats for nerds was not available.) The Mrs got her M3 only yesterday and it had a 2.8GB update when she first turned it on, taking to Android 7. Will ask her to perform the same test in a few days time. I take it you was on Android 6 when you tested an M3?



No, I was actually on the android 7.0 update!
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