Audi A4 Avant 1.4T FSI S Line 5dr [Leather/Alc] Lease 256.69 per month (256.69 initial) 24 months - £6160.56 @ 21st Century Motors
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Audi A4 Avant 1.4T FSI S Line 5dr [Leather/Alc] Lease 256.69 per month (256.69 initial) 24 months - £6160.56 @ 21st Century Motors

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Found 10th Oct
Personal contract hire
Contract term : 24 months
Rental profile : 1 + 23
Annual mileage : 10000
Production status : Current model
CO2 band : H (131-150 g/km)

Avant model so a lot of car and price is decent. If you think buying second hand cars is better please dont share your opinion and go to auto trader.

There is a processing fee of £299.99 to add to the cost of this, should you chose to take up the offer, making the total £6460.55, or £269.19pm avg.
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MrSweeney8 h, 16 m ago

It's not really a "proper mod" so to speak, as you only have to unclip a …It's not really a "proper mod" so to speak, as you only have to unclip a few plugs to set it back to stock.If we were talking a full on ECU flash then yes, I would agree with you, it wouldn't be worth it and would be dangerous.When you have big name manufacturers like VW fiddling part of the ECU's just to duck emissions bench marks, it hardly seems a crime to employ the services of a company that wants to adjust the running of the engine for genuine economy and performance improvements across the board...



These tuning boxes do not give economy gains - your car's computer will indicate as if you are, but this is because these boxes modify the signal between the ECU and fuel pump or rail sensor (and usually timing sensor in petrols) to put more fuel in than the ECU thinks it is getting. Stock car, you think you're getting 50mpg but actually getting 48, add a tuning box and if you don't exploit that extra performance, the car will think it is putting less fuel in and give you an indicated 55mpg, but your fuel costs don't drop at all.

They do give more power and (especially the diesels) more torque. Even if there are no direct detection systems (very recent Vauxhalls can detect, so can facelift cars on the MK7 VW Golf platform (Leon, A3, Octavia)), there are other indications such as abnormal readings from emissions/catalytic systems, more frequent DPF regens, higher running oil temps etc.

If these go undetected, there is the issue of clutch longevity - if you up the torque by 30% and you have a "just enough" clutch fitted, you might find your slipping in no time. You will need to let your insurance company know also.

I'm not against tuning boxes, but you get nothing for nothing - there is a reason the manufacturers don't set up the cars like a tuning box outputs - diesels run a little hotter (increasing NOx output considerably), and the mpg claims are pure fantasy (indicated vs actual) for reasons already explained.

I had a TDI-Tuning branded box on my MK7 Gold GTD, and my DPF regens increased 3-fold, my consumption increased 10%, and the power delivery was so lumpy and non-linear that you could put your foot down in 3rd at 60mph and generate wheelspin. I had it on the car a week, sent it back and they "fixed" it. Tried it again and they'd literally cut the performance gains in half to stop the wheelspin, but kind of made it redundant from the lack of gains. To be fair, I got it when the MK7 GTD had been out only 5 months, so maybe they were still learning, but it was a poor product.

I gave it 6 months and got a DTUK box for the GTD - massively better than the TDI-Tuning box. The place is reasonably local, so I could try before I bought. Smooth power delivery, like stock at 125%, and only really gave you the power when you wanted it, so mpg indicated was not massively inaccurate and real mpg stayed almost the same (I didn't hoof it all the time for absolutely no need), DPFs half as often as unmodified (oil temp generally about 2 Celcius higher than stock). I was absolutely sold on it. Totally transformed the car, it was like someone had shoehorned a 3 litre engine into the car. Ran the GTD on it for a year before upgrading the car to a Golf R. My dad got given the box for his GTD and has ran it for about 50k miles now without issue.

I took the decision not to get a box for my R, as the clutch is one of those "just enough" - the GTD's seems far more resilient to torque increases, there have been plenty of reports of modified GTIs and Rs slipping clutches (and none that I know of for GTD) - and as a boxed GTI has a very similar output as a stock R, but more torque, i'd say that it is the torque killing the clutch.

As for this lease deal, i'm not sold on tiny engines (with respect to the size of car) with big outputs - they need to work hard all of the time, whether it is a tiny 1.0 outputting 125hp on a small car or a 1.4 outputting 150hp on a pretty big car, that puts strain on the engine and the fuel economy will be nowhere near expectations.

I ran one on my v6 diesel merc the whole time I had it. Removed it for each service never had any issues with warranty.

MrSweeney5 m ago

Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the …Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the term. The low initial payment is a real bonus too.150bhp is very reasonable and anyone wanting a tad more poke could get a tuning box (aka a smoke box) from somewhere like tdituning.co.uk should bring it up to almost 180bhp. Costs around £300.

You'd be mad to do that to a lease car

MrSweeney7 m ago

Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the …Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the term. The low initial payment is a real bonus too.150bhp is very reasonable and anyone wanting a tad more poke could get a tuning box (aka a smoke box) from somewhere like tdituning.co.uk should bring it up to almost 180bhp. Costs around £300.


That's clever......warranty void.
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Great looking car, fantastic spec and an interior that's hard to beat. just ordered one on pcp on a decent deal can't wait.

Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the term. The low initial payment is a real bonus too.
150bhp is very reasonable and anyone wanting a tad more poke could get a tuning box (aka a smoke box) from somewhere like tdituning.co.uk should bring it up to almost 180bhp. Costs around £300.

MrSweeney5 m ago

Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the …Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the term. The low initial payment is a real bonus too.150bhp is very reasonable and anyone wanting a tad more poke could get a tuning box (aka a smoke box) from somewhere like tdituning.co.uk should bring it up to almost 180bhp. Costs around £300.

You'd be mad to do that to a lease car

MrSweeney7 m ago

Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the …Great lease deal. Alot of car for such a low amount of money over the term. The low initial payment is a real bonus too.150bhp is very reasonable and anyone wanting a tad more poke could get a tuning box (aka a smoke box) from somewhere like tdituning.co.uk should bring it up to almost 180bhp. Costs around £300.


That's clever......warranty void.

jellybaby19697 m ago

That's clever......warranty void.

Really...? How would they know its been fitted? You only need to unplug it when it goes in for a service or any other work.
Edited by: "MrSweeney" 10th Oct

I ran one on my v6 diesel merc the whole time I had it. Removed it for each service never had any issues with warranty.

I'd be less worried about warranty and more about the leasing company finding out. After all it is their car and a modification like that would not go down well. The ECU could well flag it.

Gets recorded in the ecu

jellybaby19695 m ago

Gets recorded in the ecu

Maybe if it was a very cheap nasty one. But buy from a reputable company and you should have no issues at all. No garage or lease company will be hooking diag's units up to the ecu without good reason. In my experience they're often reluctant to hook a diag's unit up when there is an issue!!

Why do lease deals attract such stupid comments from fantasists ? Maybe its only the fantasists who even look at lease deals that they aspire to be able to afford one day .

MrSweeney6 m ago

Maybe if it was a very cheap nasty one. But buy from a reputable company …Maybe if it was a very cheap nasty one. But buy from a reputable company and you should have no issues at all. No garage or lease company will be hooking diag's units up to the ecu without good reason. In my experience they're often reluctant to hook a diag's unit up when there is an issue!!



They have to (or should ) do it on every service - its in the schedule

rogparki7 m ago

They have to (or should ) do it on every service - its in the schedule


Hahaha... yeah right.. You're telling me for each car that goes in for a routine service at main dealerships, they hook up a diag's unit and sift through the data, even when there are no reported issues or warning lights...

You've got more chance of winning the lottery without buying a ticket...

Heat from me always like a 1+23 deal. And LOL at the suggestion of modding a lease car

Been driving my leased Avant sport for half my term now. Amazing car for how little it costs me a month. This is a really great price seeing as it’s S Line as well.
I’d just check what the excess mileage charge is if you expect to be exceeding 10k per annum.

FMG!

MrSweeney10 m ago

Hahaha... yeah right.. You're telling me for each car that goes in for a …Hahaha... yeah right.. You're telling me for each car that goes in for a routine service at main dealerships, they hook up a diag's unit and sift through the data, even when there are no reported issues or warning lights...You've got more chance of winning the lottery without buying a ticket...



Takes about 10 secs to flag up irregularities , no sifting required , surely you know that ? its standard on any modern day car service ! They are not searching particularly for evidence of "tweak boxes" just abnormal running (which would certainly be flagged up ) . Are you sure its a Merc you had , or was it a Model T Ford ?

Who the heck would take the risk of modifying a lease car, no chance, you'd be in huge trouble noway Pedro as Del Boy says.

Where are 14 years old fiesta or polo people? They should give proper lease advice here...

smokedsausage3 m ago

Who the heck would take the risk of modifying a lease car, no chance, …Who the heck would take the risk of modifying a lease car, no chance, you'd be in huge trouble noway Pedro as Del Boy says.

A lot of people clock leases back from mileage correction companies and do all sorts to them. They’re not as clever as you think.

XLYC14 m ago

A lot of people clock leases back from mileage correction companies and do …A lot of people clock leases back from mileage correction companies and do all sorts to them. They’re not as clever as you think.



Great advice - NOT - urban myth ! Believe me they are much more clever than you think ! Ever tried handing a doctored one back ? No - but I bet you know a mate who's brother in law's aunt's son has
Edited by: "rogparki" 10th Oct

dangab1 h, 5 m ago

Great looking car, fantastic spec and an interior that's hard to beat. …Great looking car, fantastic spec and an interior that's hard to beat. just ordered one on pcp on a decent deal can't wait.



Is it? I bought the 1.4 saloon version of this and its useless on any type of incline, particularly pulling away from lights, and i reckon the estate will be even worse with that size of engine than the saloon

MrSweeney1 h, 13 m ago

I ran one on my v6 diesel merc the whole time I had it. Removed it for …I ran one on my v6 diesel merc the whole time I had it. Removed it for each service never had any issues with warranty.

How long did you have your car for? I'm thinking of getting a box but have read this can damage the engine

150 bhp is reasonable, unless you are a boy racer. It is not an RS, but a modestly powered bland estate. Shame none of these reasonably priced deals come with the DSG box.

indyjukebox9 h, 42 m ago

modestly powered bland estate


Well, yeah, that used to be Audi's bread and butter before they went all chavvy.
Edited by: "ollie87" 11th Oct

indyjukebox12 m ago

150 bhp is reasonable, unless you are a boy racer. It is not an RS, but a …150 bhp is reasonable, unless you are a boy racer. It is not an RS, but a modestly powered bland estate. Shame none of these reasonably priced deals come with the DSG box.


150bhp sounds reasonable, and it's ok... However I have this exact model on a similar deal and the reality is that it's a bit lacking between 30 and 60mph where you need it. It's very quick off the lights but who needs that!

Ditto the comment about the lack of dsg options as the gearing on this means you are constantly changing gear regardless of whether you're trying to drive for economy or performance.

Still, it is a decent drive, well built and great curb appeal for peanuts. I'd definitely recommend it even though I do miss the torque of my former diesel cars.

I just want one! But realistically looking at second hand ones around 10k. No chance in getting a new shape lovely car Heat

The turbo lag is absolutely lethal on this, I can't wait for my lease to end if I'm honest. If you live anywhere near hills just avoid this at all costs as it's real pita. Blows bulbs for fun as well

jase.21 h, 19 m ago

Is it? I bought the 1.4 saloon version of this and its useless on any type …Is it? I bought the 1.4 saloon version of this and its useless on any type of incline, particularly pulling away from lights, and i reckon the estate will be even worse with that size of engine than the saloon

Well I guess your in a better position to judge considering you own one already. I've also gone for the saloon, which I pushed pretty hard in the test drives and although there is the expected turbo lag, I found the car gave me enough power I think I'll be happy with. Granted it's no speed demon but I didn't think it was a slouch either, although my current car is a 1.6 diesel polo so I haven't come with huge expectations!

If they stuck an Audi badge on a dog t*rd the twenty somethings would wet themselves over it! What happened to all the BM fans - grew up maybe?

Before you fall in love with the idea of this car, take it for an extended test drive if anyone will let you. Once you’ve settled into it you might start to notice its shortcomings.

Great car especially for the money but that engine is just not suitable for a car of this size. I test drove it and it's terrible. Absolutely no poke for driving on motorways or A roads. Meh.

rogparki2 h, 54 m ago

Takes about 10 secs to flag up irregularities , no sifting required , …Takes about 10 secs to flag up irregularities , no sifting required , surely you know that ? its standard on any modern day car service ! They are not searching particularly for evidence of "tweak boxes" just abnormal running (which would certainly be flagged up ) . Are you sure its a Merc you had , or was it a Model T Ford ?

That's 10 seconds longer than any slack jawed mech's want to spend on the car when it's in for a routine service at a main dealers.

As someone who likes to have cars inside a warranty period, I've owned 'new' and 'nearly new' cars since I was a teenager and I'm now mid 30's. I've had multiple cases in the past where I haven't so much as laid a finger on my car to modify it, had issues, then had to put it into the main dealer and take it back out several times because they cant find the issue. In a couple of cases (Ford) I actually had to take the car to someone independent (a friend of a friend type scenario) so they could have an "educated stab in the dark" as to what the issue was and then feed that hunch back to the main dealer because I was losing the will to live. As I put it in for the third or fourth time running, at which point, what do you know?!? "They" found the issue!! Funny that!! Much easier when you have a tip off from someone who can be f**ked to know what they're talking about....

Very cheap "ebay" (£100-£150 mark) type tuning boxes would probably flag up abnormal running, hence the name smoke boxes due to over fueling alone. But if you do your research and buy from a reputable company (£300 mark), there should be minimal chance of issues.
Edited by: "MrSweeney" 11th Oct

BraddersJ2 h, 33 m ago

How long did you have your car for? I'm thinking of getting a box but have …How long did you have your car for? I'm thinking of getting a box but have read this can damage the engine


Had the car for just shy of 4 years, 62 plate, bought nearly new in 2013 with 10k miles. Ran the box from tdituning.co.uk (on the max power setting 7!!!) since 2014. Sold recently this year to webuyanyshi*e.com No issues, faults or warning lights full stop over the duration of ownership. 37k miles at point of sale.

A pal of mine who is an "undiluted" petrol head (mbikes & cars) has been running the same box on his c350 cdi for a while. No issues at all. Makes a noticeable difference in power... I noticed the difference (power loss) more when I took the box off to sell the car after driving it with the box on for years.

smokedsausage3 h, 30 m ago

Who the heck would take the risk of modifying a lease car, no chance, …Who the heck would take the risk of modifying a lease car, no chance, you'd be in huge trouble noway Pedro as Del Boy says.

It's not really a "proper mod" so to speak, as you only have to unclip a few plugs to set it back to stock.

If we were talking a full on ECU flash then yes, I would agree with you, it wouldn't be worth it and would be dangerous.

When you have big name manufacturers like VW fiddling part of the ECU's just to duck emissions bench marks, it hardly seems a crime to employ the services of a company that wants to adjust the running of the engine for genuine economy and performance improvements across the board...
Edited by: "MrSweeney" 11th Oct

rogparki4 h, 51 m ago

Why do lease deals attract such stupid comments from fantasists ? …Why do lease deals attract such stupid comments from fantasists ? Maybe its only the fantasists who even look at lease deals that they aspire to be able to afford one day .

A VERY valid point Mr rogparki!

In my experience on HUKD thus far, I've noticed lease deals tend to attract individuals who believe that OWNING the car outright means they would incur ZERO cost after 2 years and X thousand miles (i.e. they can sell the car for the same price they bought it at 2 years ago with say an extra 20k on the clock, just because they bought it for cash like a propaaa geezaaa and they "OWN" it..... go figure huh!?!?) As a result of this logic people who LEASE brand new cars (under warranty) instead of OWNING 10 year old cars, are idiots..

These same "fantasists" as you so eloquently put it, also seem to believe that, the only people who support the concept of car leasing, are those who don't have 2 pennies to rub together and "can't afford" to drive the car they are leasing and have simply over extended themselves financially for no other reason than to "show off" to their mates....

Its a truly crazy world we live in...
Edited by: "MrSweeney" 11th Oct

@MrSweeney: Did it bump up your insurance much ?

MrSweeney8 h, 16 m ago

It's not really a "proper mod" so to speak, as you only have to unclip a …It's not really a "proper mod" so to speak, as you only have to unclip a few plugs to set it back to stock.If we were talking a full on ECU flash then yes, I would agree with you, it wouldn't be worth it and would be dangerous.When you have big name manufacturers like VW fiddling part of the ECU's just to duck emissions bench marks, it hardly seems a crime to employ the services of a company that wants to adjust the running of the engine for genuine economy and performance improvements across the board...



These tuning boxes do not give economy gains - your car's computer will indicate as if you are, but this is because these boxes modify the signal between the ECU and fuel pump or rail sensor (and usually timing sensor in petrols) to put more fuel in than the ECU thinks it is getting. Stock car, you think you're getting 50mpg but actually getting 48, add a tuning box and if you don't exploit that extra performance, the car will think it is putting less fuel in and give you an indicated 55mpg, but your fuel costs don't drop at all.

They do give more power and (especially the diesels) more torque. Even if there are no direct detection systems (very recent Vauxhalls can detect, so can facelift cars on the MK7 VW Golf platform (Leon, A3, Octavia)), there are other indications such as abnormal readings from emissions/catalytic systems, more frequent DPF regens, higher running oil temps etc.

If these go undetected, there is the issue of clutch longevity - if you up the torque by 30% and you have a "just enough" clutch fitted, you might find your slipping in no time. You will need to let your insurance company know also.

I'm not against tuning boxes, but you get nothing for nothing - there is a reason the manufacturers don't set up the cars like a tuning box outputs - diesels run a little hotter (increasing NOx output considerably), and the mpg claims are pure fantasy (indicated vs actual) for reasons already explained.

I had a TDI-Tuning branded box on my MK7 Gold GTD, and my DPF regens increased 3-fold, my consumption increased 10%, and the power delivery was so lumpy and non-linear that you could put your foot down in 3rd at 60mph and generate wheelspin. I had it on the car a week, sent it back and they "fixed" it. Tried it again and they'd literally cut the performance gains in half to stop the wheelspin, but kind of made it redundant from the lack of gains. To be fair, I got it when the MK7 GTD had been out only 5 months, so maybe they were still learning, but it was a poor product.

I gave it 6 months and got a DTUK box for the GTD - massively better than the TDI-Tuning box. The place is reasonably local, so I could try before I bought. Smooth power delivery, like stock at 125%, and only really gave you the power when you wanted it, so mpg indicated was not massively inaccurate and real mpg stayed almost the same (I didn't hoof it all the time for absolutely no need), DPFs half as often as unmodified (oil temp generally about 2 Celcius higher than stock). I was absolutely sold on it. Totally transformed the car, it was like someone had shoehorned a 3 litre engine into the car. Ran the GTD on it for a year before upgrading the car to a Golf R. My dad got given the box for his GTD and has ran it for about 50k miles now without issue.

I took the decision not to get a box for my R, as the clutch is one of those "just enough" - the GTD's seems far more resilient to torque increases, there have been plenty of reports of modified GTIs and Rs slipping clutches (and none that I know of for GTD) - and as a boxed GTI has a very similar output as a stock R, but more torque, i'd say that it is the torque killing the clutch.

As for this lease deal, i'm not sold on tiny engines (with respect to the size of car) with big outputs - they need to work hard all of the time, whether it is a tiny 1.0 outputting 125hp on a small car or a 1.4 outputting 150hp on a pretty big car, that puts strain on the engine and the fuel economy will be nowhere near expectations.

MrSweeney7 h, 50 m ago

A VERY valid point Mr rogparki!In my experience on HUKD thus far, I've …A VERY valid point Mr rogparki!In my experience on HUKD thus far, I've noticed lease deals tend to attract individuals who believe that OWNING the car outright means they would incur ZERO cost after 2 years and X thousand miles


Dunno if there has been any comments that have been deleted but I haven't seen the kind of comments that you talk about on this particular thread but yes you do come across those who will dismiss leasing out of hand simply because of their preconceived notions of what leasing means to them

I don't think anyone should be wedded to a particular way of financing a car, whether that is buying/used and paying cash/PCP/HP. It all depend depends on the deal you get at the time.

If you have the cash and are not likely to invest it and are also looking to keep the car for a min 4-5 years then buying is still a good option and there are huge savings to be made on pre-reg/6 month old cars (due to lack of VAT). If you want a brand new car every 3 years then PCP is probably better.

As for this car itself, the new A4 does look huge so as with the Passat deal, the engine is a real downer even more so with an avant. I would pay a little more to get the DSG if available.

monkeyhanger7542 m ago

These tuning boxes do not give economy gains - your car's computer will …These tuning boxes do not give economy gains - your car's computer will indicate as if you are, but this is because these boxes modify the signal between the ECU and fuel pump or rail sensor (and usually timing sensor in petrols) to put more fuel in than the ECU thinks it is getting. Stock car, you think you're getting 50mpg but actually getting 48, add a tuning box and if you don't exploit that extra performance, the car will think it is putting less fuel in and give you an indicated 55mpg, but your fuel costs don't drop at all.They do give more power and (especially the diesels) more torque. Even if there are no direct detection systems (very recent Vauxhalls can detect, so can facelift cars on the MK7 VW Golf platform (Leon, A3, Octavia)), there are other indications such as abnormal readings from emissions/catalytic systems, more frequent DPF regens, higher running oil temps etc. If these go undetected, there is the issue of clutch longevity - if you up the torque by 30% and you have a "just enough" clutch fitted, you might find your slipping in no time. You will need to let your insurance company know also.I'm not against tuning boxes, but you get nothing for nothing - there is a reason the manufacturers don't set up the cars like a tuning box outputs - diesels run a little hotter (increasing NOx output considerably), and the mpg claims are pure fantasy (indicated vs actual) for reasons already explained.I had a TDI-Tuning branded box on my MK7 Gold GTD, and my DPF regens increased 3-fold, my consumption increased 10%, and the power delivery was so lumpy and non-linear that you could put your foot down in 3rd at 60mph and generate wheelspin. I had it on the car a week, sent it back and they "fixed" it. Tried it again and they'd literally cut the performance gains in half to stop the wheelspin, but kind of made it redundant from the lack of gains. To be fair, I got it when the MK7 GTD had been out only 5 months, so maybe they were still learning, but it was a poor product.I gave it 6 months and got a DTUK box for the GTD - massively better than the TDI-Tuning box. The place is reasonably local, so I could try before I bought. Smooth power delivery, like stock at 125%, and only really gave you the power when you wanted it, so mpg indicated was not massively inaccurate and real mpg stayed almost the same (I didn't hoof it all the time for absolutely no need), DPFs half as often as unmodified (oil temp generally about 2 Celcius higher than stock). I was absolutely sold on it. Totally transformed the car, it was like someone had shoehorned a 3 litre engine into the car. Ran the GTD on it for a year before upgrading the car to a Golf R. My dad got given the box for his GTD and has ran it for about 50k miles now without issue. I took the decision not to get a box for my R, as the clutch is one of those "just enough" - the GTD's seems far more resilient to torque increases, there have been plenty of reports of modified GTIs and Rs slipping clutches (and none that I know of for GTD) - and as a boxed GTI has a very similar output as a stock R, but more torque, i'd say that it is the torque killing the clutch.As for this lease deal, i'm not sold on tiny engines (with respect to the size of car) with big outputs - they need to work hard all of the time, whether it is a tiny 1.0 outputting 125hp on a small car or a 1.4 outputting 150hp on a pretty big car, that puts strain on the engine and the fuel economy will be nowhere near expectations.


At last someone who actually knows what they are taking about.... The dreaded TD1 error code =void warranty and a very expensive bill should your s-tronic / dsg go tits up. Audis and other new VAG cars are plugged in and talk to the mother land whenever they go in for anything and they now pick up everything.

I'm currently having the the following dilemma, having had 4 new remapped octavia vrs's (cracking cars) over the last few years (petrol and diesel) and a remapped Passat I have just got an A6 quattro sline s tronic (190) with the intention of getting it remapped straight away, the guy I use advised of the TD1 code issue so I have binned the idea. The car is a little slow so I'm now bored of it which is a shame as it's a lovely place to be in terms of space and quality etc Took a 335d out for a test drive the other day and my god that engine is epic but the interior, dials, space and materials etc were naff in comparison to the Audi A6. 535d xdrive still too expensive and so Is the A6 biturbo..... Put up with the lack of power in the A6 and have a nice place to be or have a cramped naff cabin but that epic engine. 1st world problems
Edited by: "LPKLPKLPK" 11th Oct

Thanks OP, looking for the saloon version atm
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