Audi A6 Avant S Line Ultra 2.0 TDI PCH/Lease £252 X 6 + 24 £7488 @ Gateway2Lease
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Audi A6 Avant S Line Ultra 2.0 TDI PCH/Lease £252 X 6 + 24 £7488 @ Gateway2Lease

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Found 16th Feb 2016
Personal contract hire and in stock too. Not sure how much of a deal it is.
Engine doesn't seem punchy considering size of car but it comes with some decent kit.

6 months upfront at £1511
23 months at £252
£180 initial fee

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Original Poster

8k miles per annum limit

8k limit...

6+23 not 24..

This would be the new Euro 6 engine, I have one in my Passat, it's a very good performer, surprisingly punchy and without the emissions story associated with the Euro 5.

Nice deal

That's a lot of car for the money.

parkers lease search shows their best price as £340pm with £2k deposit so this is a deal.

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mcintg

This would be the new Euro 6 engine, I have one in my Passat, it's a very … This would be the new Euro 6 engine, I have one in my Passat, it's a very good performer, surprisingly punchy and without the emissions story associated with the Euro 5.



I'm guessing the a6 avant will be heavier... Haven't checked stats though.

Assuming an avant buyer is lugging some stuff round too. Gota say it looks the part though

loofer

I'm guessing the a6 avant will be heavier... Haven't checked stats … I'm guessing the a6 avant will be heavier... Haven't checked stats though.Assuming an avant buyer is lugging some stuff round too. Gota say it looks the part though



what part does it look? has it hot the I don't and never will own this car look?

Have had this vehicle (Auto) on a personal lease for almost two years (ends in May) I paid almost 9k in total (based on 10k PA) and at the time it was a sweet deal!

Great family wagon well built, superb engine (55-65 Mpg) and according to the service indicator it will go back before having to go to the expense of getting it serviced, however I have had to replace the front two tyres at 11k! (£300) there is still plenty of tread on the rear so on reflection I should have rotated the wheels at around 8k and probably would not have had to replace any rubber. I have also had to top it up four times with 5L of "Adblue" at £15 a pop (Amazon) I dread to think how much they would charge at the main dealer.

For those who get it leasing is a cracking way of getting into a brand new vehicle which you may very well have never been able to afford using traditional means. My rule of thumb is the total you pay for the lease period should always be less than what you would loose in that same period should you have purchased the car from new.

In this case an Audi A6 Avant is around £35k new, after 24 months it's worth around £22k so a personal loss of around £13k or lease it for £7.5k for the same period!

Talk about dead money!

MM




savingbritainmoney

what part does it look? has it hot the I don't and never will own this … what part does it look? has it hot the I don't and never will own this car look?



Personally it has the 'I could own this car outright, but I'm not stupid to waste £s on a depreciating asset, so will pay for it accordingly' look.

Anyway, we have one of these on a business lease. It's a great car. Slightly firm ride, but very practical and imo looks nice and is a nice cabin to be in, either driving it or as a passenger.

topss

Personally it has the 'I could own this car outright, but I'm not stupid … Personally it has the 'I could own this car outright, but I'm not stupid to waste £s on a depreciating asset, so will pay for it accordingly' look. Anyway, we have one of these on a business lease. It's a great car. Slightly firm ride, but very practical and imo looks nice and is a nice cabin to be in, either driving it or as a passenger.



So in 2 years would this car be worth £7500 less?

savingbritainmoney

So in 2 years would this car be worth £7500 less?



A quick look on Autotrader seems to suggest it will. Apart from that, I'm pretty certain my father and his accountant wouldn't be leasing if it didn't have some financial benefit X)

But that's not the whole story. Assuming you're swapping cars every couple of years and even if you can afford to buy outright, leasing can make sense - even if you don't save significant amounts. Hassle free motoring for the duration of the lease, no headaches when trying to sell it and, especially for a business, there are other benefits.

I'm sure there are people out there who lease because they would like to drive something they can't afford outright (personally not my mindset) and that's their personal decision and why not, if you can afford the payments. But from a totally financial point of view, most decent lease deals will help you save money compared to buying/selling every couple of years.
Edited by: "topss" 17th Feb 2016

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Ridgeway Audi in Oxford beat the price on the A4 deal posted a month ago by over a grand, so may be worth contacting them first if anyone is considering this!

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savingbritainmoney

So in 2 years would this car be worth £7500 less?


even more less... if that double negative makes sense

In 2 years it will be worth 12k - 14k less.

savingbritainmoney

So in 2 years would this car be worth £7500 less?



The day you drive it off the lot it loses the 20% markup it has in the showroom
So yes, it's more than reasonable to expect a HIGHLY CONSERVATIVE 7500 depreciation over 2 years on this car. Likely it will be more.

RRP with VAT and dealer screw-you tax is 26,845
(source: audi.co.uk/con…pdf page 21)
a 7500 depreciation = 27.93% of the car's initial purchase price.

Using a depreciation calculator online whatcar.com/car…891
http://www.whatcar.com/content/graph/charta8f1a8ff710545218c91c72b9a4150d3.png
Depreciation is estimated at 42.40% over the first 2 years, although it should be noted that their RRP shows as higher than the audi documentation. Still, this curve is very similar for all A6 models.

tl;dr this lease is a rocking deal. With a car you're always losing money (it's a depreciating asset). Much better to lose 7500/27.93% over 2 years than 42.40%(est 11,382). Spend that extra 3882 on something nice for your kids. Spend whatever's left over on that thing you've been waiting to buy yourself

I bought my A6 S-line at 2 years old for 20k with 26k on the clock. Which was 34k new so it lost 14k in the 2 years. If I wanted a new plate car I would deffo go for a deal like this.

Each to their own I guess, I've had my 600 pound vauxhall for almost 4 years and not having to put any expensive parts on (any work needed is done by me) so not all cars depreciate rapidly.
I'm happy for people to think I can't afford an expensive car some people on the other hand think a car reflects on how successful a person is.

I've just been trying to convince my wife that the a4 avant at 173 per month but it's not big enough so this looks like a great deal

I need 10k pa

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savingbritainmoney

Each to their own I guess, I've had my 600 pound vauxhall for almost 4 … Each to their own I guess, I've had my 600 pound vauxhall for almost 4 years and not having to put any expensive parts on (any work needed is done by me) so not all cars depreciate rapidly. I'm happy for people to think I can't afford an expensive car some people on the other hand think a car reflects on how successful a person is.



Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear indication of how rapidly it depreciated to get to that point.

I drive a 2001 car and try to do most work myself (removed starter motor earlier this week) however I equally appreciate that some people prefer to drive a newer and more well equipped car but don't see the sense in a big outlay.

Doesn't mean I should judge them just like I wouldn't want to be judged for the car I drive

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savingbritainmoney

Each to their own I guess, I've had my 600 pound vauxhall for almost 4 … Each to their own I guess, I've had my 600 pound vauxhall for almost 4 years and not having to put any expensive parts on (any work needed is done by me) so not all cars depreciate rapidly. I'm happy for people to think I can't afford an expensive car some people on the other hand think a car reflects on how successful a person is.



Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear indication of how rapidly it depreciated to get to that point.

I drive a 2001 car and try to do most work myself (removed starter motor earlier this week) however I equally appreciate that some people prefer to drive a newer and more well equipped car but don't see the sense in a big outlay.

Doesn't mean I should judge them just like I wouldn't want to be judged for the car I drive

loofer

Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear … Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear indication of how rapidly it depreciated to get to that point.I drive a 2001 car and try to do most work myself (removed starter motor earlier this week) however I equally appreciate that some people prefer to drive a newer and more well equipped car but don't see the sense in a big outlay.Doesn't mean I should judge them just like I wouldn't want to be judged for the car I drive



sorry my bad I mean it hasn't deprecated rapidly in the time I've had it.

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savingbritainmoney

sorry my bad I mean it hasn't deprecated rapidly in the time I've had it.



I knew you meant that, I was just pointing out that once you get into the sub £1000 range then depreciation reeaally slows down. As long as the car runs something then you'll always get something for it.
Admittedly that could be £300 which is 50% of what you paid (even less when you factor in parts), but in monetary terms, a car depreciating only £300 after 6 years is great.

It just can't be compared to a new car though

Mire Mare

Have had this vehicle (Auto) on a personal lease for almost two years … Have had this vehicle (Auto) on a personal lease for almost two years (ends in May) I paid almost 9k in total (based on 10k PA) and at the time it was a sweet deal!Great family wagon well built, superb engine (55-65 Mpg) and according to the service indicator it will go back before having to go to the expense of getting it serviced, however I have had to replace the front two tyres at 11k! (£300) there is still plenty of tread on the rear so on reflection I should have rotated the wheels at around 8k and probably would not have had to replace any rubber. I have also had to top it up four times with 5L of "Adblue" at £15 a pop (Amazon) I dread to think how much they would charge at the main dealer.For those who get it leasing is a cracking way of getting into a brand new vehicle which you may very well have never been able to afford using traditional means. My rule of thumb is the total you pay for the lease period should always be less than what you would loose in that same period should you have purchased the car from new.In this case an Audi A6 Avant is around £35k new, after 24 months it's worth around £22k so a personal loss of around £13k or lease it for £7.5k for the same period!Talk about dead money!MM



Why did you need to put adblue in it?

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riskyb

Why did you need to put adblue in it?



My thoughts too. Thought that only went in big commercial vehicles.

loofer

My thoughts too. Thought that only went in big commercial vehicles.


You thought wrong. Many current cars (Euro 6) need adblue.

riskyb

Why did you need to put adblue in it?



Lots of high output diesel cars are now using selective catalytic reduction to meet Euro VI NOX limits.

Hmmm wonder why they felt the need to rename it AdBlue?

"Hey, I just filled my A6 with urea!"

As usual, the error in so many of the calculations being made on depreciation is to base that on list price; very unlikely you'd have to pay anywhere near that if buying this or most other cars new.

I have also had to top it up four times with 5L of "Adblue" at £15 a pop (Amazon) I dread to think how much they would charge at the main dealer.
£12 for 10L at Aberdeen Audi and £11 for the same size at BP and Shell garages so Amazon not the cheapest.

Besford

As usual, the error in so many of the calculations being made on … As usual, the error in so many of the calculations being made on depreciation is to base that on list price; very unlikely you'd have to pay anywhere near that if buying this or most other cars new.



​I've seen the paper work on my next lease a £38k 5 series, cost to the lease company was under £28k. I was offered a similar PCP deal so there are massive savings to be had on models like the A6 and 5 series which are due replacements.
This is a bargain of a deal though.

I like this deal and im tempted as for me having my money not tied up in a depreciating asset is better value. Not to forget although small even savings interest can be offset against it. However I reckonIncan make my money work better nonetheless.

Slightly different note i was tempted to try buying through broadspeed a car keeping just under 12 months doing around 8k miles and seeing what i could sell it for. Then rinse and repeat. I had a theory you would come out better than a lease depending on car.

Also again on another note this will depreciate more soon as its due the new version to bring it inline with the rest of the new range.

autocar.co.uk/car…dis
Edited by: "JJJZ" 20th Feb 2016

loofer

Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear … Not sure how old your Astra is but the fact you got it for 600 is clear indication of how rapidly it depreciated to get to that point.I drive a 2001 car and try to do most work myself (removed starter motor earlier this week) however I equally appreciate that some people prefer to drive a newer and more well equipped car but don't see the sense in a big outlay.Doesn't mean I should judge them just like I wouldn't want to be judged for the car I drive



I would suggest since it's impossible for you not to be judged by some people about your choice of car, that you simple say 'your opinion regarding my choice of car is none of my business'. That sentence alone will bring you peace

Seems a really good price, but as an owner of an inferior Golf MK6 to the car in this deal, I still couldn't go from petrol to diesel ever again, my car's engine is just so quiet and it's probalby not even the quietest petrol car, going from that to a clattering diesel, nah can't do it, it doesn't matter how refined a diesel is, you notice the engine noise if you've had a petrol car before it. Most lease deals are diesel as it makes sense, for private use I stick to petrol.

volksdub

I bought my A6 S-line at 2 years old for 20k with 26k on the clock. Which … I bought my A6 S-line at 2 years old for 20k with 26k on the clock. Which was 34k new so it lost 14k in the 2 years. If I wanted a new plate car I would deffo go for a deal like this.



A £14K loss in two years Doesn't make good business sense to me to buy new, I'd be crying. I imagine you still lost quite a bit on the £20K you put down?

Remember Audi was the worst performer using defeat devices from Volkswagen. Audi is technically not even German, it's a Chinese crap with German label.

I have Audi's through the years and have seen quality go down, but do punish VW for their instrasagience. Do not buy Audi or any VW lease or otherwise. There are plenty of choices

I was interested in the A4 Avant deals too but I need a wider car as I have 3 kids. Thanks for posting OP.

Liking this thread a lot. Our mileage was way over the 8k with the deal here but may well drop soon after a move so could be looking at this.

Leasing is for lazy people that don't wash their cars themselves, service regularly or just keep things mint in general.

Every car I have owned I have had no problem selling as I kept my cars in excellent condition. I'd put them on auto trader or piston heads and they would sell within 2 weeks.

On that note why would I buy this car new? I'd get it used from a similar owner who takes care of his car at a fraction of the retail cost.
Edited by: "InAFalsetto" 21st Feb 2016
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