Audi S6 Saloon £11,512 off list price - £45033.00 @ broadspeed
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Audi S6 Saloon £11,512 off list price - £45033.00 @ broadspeed

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Found 28th Jun 2015
Following on from the recent Jag XF deal, I thought I'd have a look around to see what nice fast yet practical cars could be gotten instead.

Audi and BMW have been giving good discounts recently. And the Audi S6 seems to be a particularly good sweet spot at the moment. It costs just £1000 more to buy (new) outright than the Jaguar XF 3.0, however it gets 450bhp and has a very nice V8 engine in it (a dying trend with current engine downsizing due to emissions targets).

This price is given by a broker (and fulfilled by a franchised main dealership) and I've never failed to find a main dealer to match such deals if you phone around.

This works out about the same price as an almost year old used one from Audi.

I'd be very tempted if I hadn't changed car already within the last few months.

The even nicer S7 is £14,135 off list - though just over £49,000 even after discount.
Diesel wise, the A6 biTurbo is £10,600 off list at just over £40,500 however you will have to live with 'just' 320bhp and it's a diesel.
Also the A7 biTurbo is £13,400 off list at £45,639 same engine as the A6 biTurbo.

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You are missing the point about the Jag deal. This is £45k upfront!

From CAR magazine:

Improvements too on the economy front, if S6 customers worry about such things. Fuel consumption has stretched from 29.4 to 30.7mpg

Lol.

These luxury car deals are just a waste of time on here. Anyone prepared to shell out upwards of £45k for a new car won't be swayed by any deals on HUKD.

Edited by: "deeky" 28th Jun 2015

Original Poster

m5rcc

You are missing the point about the Jag deal. This is £45k upfront!



Good point, but weren't people complaining about lease deals and saying how you should save and buy up-front instead of leasing? LOL

discounting from an overinflated price to a reasonable price isnt a deal, its just "fair"

its like a mate of mine who will buy a £40 tshirt cos it said it used to be £150, he's still paying £40... for a tshirt?

jc74

Good point, but weren't people complaining about lease deals and saying … Good point, but weren't people complaining about lease deals and saying how you should save and buy up-front instead of leasing? LOL



Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.

If an asset depreciates, lease it.
If it appreciates, buy it.

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19Danny81

discounting from an overinflated price to a reasonable price isnt a deal, … discounting from an overinflated price to a reasonable price isnt a deal, its just "fair"its like a mate of mine who will buy a £40 tshirt cos it said it used to be £150, he's still paying £40... for a tshirt?



True, except I don't believe Audi advertise the fact you can get it with £11,000 off so you could just as easily walk into the showroom and be parted with £56,500 buy the salesman if you didn't know any better.

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m5rcc

Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.If … Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.If an asset depreciates, lease it.If it appreciates, buy it.



True, though presumably the more complex formula is:-

If an asset depreciates by more than the lease cost factoring in the time value of your capital (assuming you have it) then lease it...
Otherwise buy it...

jc74

If an asset depreciates by more than the lease cost factoring in the time … If an asset depreciates by more than the lease cost factoring in the time value of your capital (assuming you have it) then lease it...Otherwise buy it...



No - I would buy a year old model to avoid the hit

m5rcc

No - I would buy a year old model to avoid the hit



That's the way to do it!

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m5rcc

No - I would buy a year old model to avoid the hit



In this case an almost year old S6 is £45,000 (pre haggle) on the Audi Website..
With a new one it's worth 1 year's depreciation more when you sell it and has had one year less wear and tear and 1 year extra warranty..


Edited by: "jc74" 28th Jun 2015

jc74

In this case an almost year old S6 is £45,000 (pre haggle) on the Audi … In this case an almost year old S6 is £45,000 (pre haggle) on the Audi Website..With a new one it's worth 1 year's depreciation more when you sell it and has had one year less wear and tear and 1 year extra warranty..



Never buy a second car at an Audi dealership

14 plate at Cargiant is £22.5k.

m5rcc

No - I would buy a year old model to avoid the hit



Cheapest year old S6 on Autotrader is £44,990.
I'd rather take the £43 hit and not have 8k miles and another owner on the car.

Original Poster

m5rcc

Never buy a second car at an Audi dealership14 plate at Cargiant is … Never buy a second car at an Audi dealership14 plate at Cargiant is £22.5k.



Presumably that's not an S6 though - I can't find it, because I'd probably buy it at that price!

oddballjamie

Cheapest year old S6 on Autotrader is £44,990.I'd rather take the £43 hit … Cheapest year old S6 on Autotrader is £44,990.I'd rather take the £43 hit and not have 8k miles and another owner on the car.



In general - not specific to an S6 necessarily

jc74

Presumably that's not an S6 though - I can't find it, because I'd … Presumably that's not an S6 though - I can't find it, because I'd probably buy it at that price!


I'm emptying my TSB accounts as I type.

jc74

Presumably that's not an S6 though - I can't find it, because I'd … Presumably that's not an S6 though - I can't find it, because I'd probably buy it at that price!



No not an S6. I'm making the point that an Audi dealership add a huge premium to their used stock.

m5rcc

Never buy a second car at an Audi dealership14 plate at Cargiant is … Never buy a second car at an Audi dealership14 plate at Cargiant is £22.5k.


Gotta be quote of the day. Comparing the used price of a diesel A6 to an V8 S6.

oddballjamie

Gotta be quote of the day. Comparing the used price of a diesel A6 to an … Gotta be quote of the day. Comparing the used price of a diesel A6 to an V8 S6.



You're missing the point of post #16

m5rcc

You're missing the point of post #16


Back track all you want buddy. Post #11 says it all.

I'd give up and go watch some TV if I was you.

oddballjamie

Back track all you want buddy. Post #11 says it all.I'd give up and go … Back track all you want buddy. Post #11 says it all.I'd give up and go watch some TV if I was you.



If you want to pay a premium for a second Audi at a franchised dealer, do carry on.

My point stands.

OP - great find
Cheapest up to one year old example is practically the same price.
autotrader.co.uk/cla…357

m5rcc

If you want to pay a premium for a second Audi at a franchised dealer, do … If you want to pay a premium for a second Audi at a franchised dealer, do carry on.My point stands.


I've just posted the link to the used S6 I mentioned and it's not a main dealer.
If you want to spend almost the same as new, buying used then go ahead.

oddballjamie

I've just posted the link to the used S6 I mentioned and it's not a main … I've just posted the link to the used S6 I mentioned and it's not a main dealer.If you want to spend almost the same as new, buying used then go ahead.



I wouldn't buy an S6 in the first place....

m5rcc

I wouldn't buy an S6 in the first place....


Why are you even trolling this thread then?

oddballjamie

Why are you even trolling this thread then?



Because it's not a deal, shown by the lack of heat.

You fail to grasp that AutoTrader prices are not fixed. The OP price is.

m5rcc

Because it's not a deal, shown by the lack of heat.You fail to grasp that … Because it's not a deal, shown by the lack of heat.You fail to grasp that AutoTrader prices are not fixed. The OP price is.


I don't fail to grasp anything, the dealer's not going to knock 50% off.

However you fail to understand you can't buy a year old S6 for £22.5k, which you previously commented.

oddballjamie

I don't fail to grasp anything, the dealer's not going to knock 50% off



No but it will go for under £40k

m5rcc

No but it will go for under £40k



Think they will price match Car Giant?

oddballjamie

Think they will price match Car Giant?



Yup

Also this will be the original 2012 S6, not the facelifted C7 model

Original Poster

m5rcc

Because it's not a deal, shown by the lack of heat.You fail to grasp that … Because it's not a deal, shown by the lack of heat.You fail to grasp that AutoTrader prices are not fixed. The OP price is.



I guess the deal is a bit too niche for most people because of the price.
However for a brand new car with an amazing build quality and interior practical enough for the family a week's luggage yet does 0-62 in 4.5 seconds almost rivaling supercar performance, then I personally think that's a good deal. Especially when a nearly new/year old one can't be had for much less. (At that price level I'd rather pay an extra couple of grand for a new one than a year old one).

But I can fully appreciate many people wouldn't consider anything more than say a £30,000 price level being a deal at all regardless of discount!



jc74

I guess the deal is a bit too niche for most people because of the … I guess the deal is a bit too niche for most people because of the price.However for a brand new car with an amazing build quality and interior practical enough for the family a week's luggage yet does 0-62 in 4.5 seconds almost rivaling supercar performance, then I personally think that's a good deal. Especially when a nearly new/year old one can't be had for much less. (At that price level I'd rather pay an extra couple of grand for a new one than a year old one).But I can fully appreciate many people wouldn't consider anything more than say a £30,000 price level being a deal at all regardless of discount!



There's nothing wrong with the car. It's the price. If it was a decent lease deal then it would be fine, but you can't much under £600/mth is also a non-deal

m5rcc

Also this will be the original 2012 S6, not the facelifted C7 model



It's the facelift model, the previous one had less horse power.

You're on a roll today.

m5rcc

Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.If … Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.If an asset depreciates, lease it.If it appreciates, buy it.



OK - Ill lease it, but if i pay more in excess mileage charges for 20k/year than depreciation would have cost - then will you pay the difference?

That statement is far too broad and doesn't fit every time.

oddballjamie

You're on a roll today.



Bit like the OP

118luke

OK - Ill lease it, but if i pay more in excess mileage charges for … OK - Ill lease it, but if i pay more in excess mileage charges for 20k/year than depreciation would have cost - then will you pay the difference?That statement is far too broad and doesn't fit every time.



How much do you think you'd get for a three year old S6 with 60k miles?

Original Poster

m5rcc

How much do you think you'd get for a three year old S6 with 60k miles?



Given that there a none between 3 and 5 years old for sale on Autotrader, and the audi website has just one 12 reg car with 60k miles selling for £30k, I'd say you'll probably get around £27k if you traded it in... Yes you'll drop 18k from new over 3 years, but that's still 11k less than if you'd walked into the showroom and paid full price.
It actually seems quite a rare car if you compare to the number of M3, M5 and M6's for sale...

Edited by: "jc74" 29th Jun 2015

jc74

Given that there a none between 3 and 5 years old for sale on Autotrader, … Given that there a none between 3 and 5 years old for sale on Autotrader, and the audi website has just one 12 reg car with 60k miles selling for £30k, I'd say you'll probably get around £27k if you traded it in... Yes you'll drop 18k from new over 3 years, but that's still 11k less than if you'd walked into the showroom and paid full price.It actually seems quite a rare car if you compare to the number of M3, M5 and M6's for sale...



The key thing here is if, like me, you need around 20,000 miles a year, the 6k per year lost, is less than the lease would have been on a 20,000 mile arrangement by some way, so its better to buy it, use it, service and maintain it meticulously, and keep the thing for many years, you would then have the best vaue from the car overall, and lets face it, even when an s6 gets to be 10 years old, if it has been maintained and kept looking tidy, it will still be a nice car, even with man miles on it.

Original Poster

Abbadon2001

The key thing here is if, like me, you need around 20,000 miles a year, … The key thing here is if, like me, you need around 20,000 miles a year, the 6k per year lost, is less than the lease would have been on a 20,000 mile arrangement by some way, so its better to buy it, use it, service and maintain it meticulously, and keep the thing for many years, you would then have the best vaue from the car overall, and lets face it, even when an s6 gets to be 10 years old, if it has been maintained and kept looking tidy, it will still be a nice car, even with man miles on it.



Agreed in that scenario. And being a 450bhp v8, the engine will hardly be pushed to its limits on the UK roads so should still be a great runner after 10 years. Plus you'd have the enjoyment of driving a great sounding v8 engine for 10 years. Assuming you're ok with the fuel bills!
Though anyone too concerned about that should be considering a smaller engined diesel instead!
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