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B450M MSI Motherboard AM4 Ryzen £57.99 @ CCL Online
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B450M MSI Motherboard AM4 Ryzen £57.99 @ CCL Online

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Posted 16th Jul 2019

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Same price ebuyer and a few quid more at amazon if people prefer to buy from other than CCL

Personally I think CCL much better than Ebuyer
Edited by: "mebzz" 16th Jul 2019
will this work with ryzen 9?
gu2gan17/07/2019 07:00

will this work with ryzen 9?



Yes, but will need a BIOS update.CCL can do this for a tenner or free if you also buy a ryzen 9.
Edited by: "fleming222" 17th Jul 2019
Could anybody recommend a good graphics card to go with this motherboard?
nameskhan17/07/2019 07:23

Could anybody recommend a good graphics card to go with this motherboard?


Depends what you want to spend to be honest.
What resolution do you play at and what type of games do you play?
What CPU will you have?
nameskhan17/07/2019 07:23

Could anybody recommend a good graphics card to go with this motherboard?


Graphics cards don't really pair with Motherboards, any will be fine. You really need to give more information such as processor, preferred resolution and budget.
fleming22217/07/2019 07:15

Yes, but will need a BIOS update.CCL can do this for a tenner or free if …Yes, but will need a BIOS update.CCL can do this for a tenner or free if you also buy a ryzen 9.


CCL will do the bios update for a tenner?!! What a ripoff.
Do it yourself for free.It's so easy to do nowadays.
stamfordblue17/07/2019 07:52

CCL will do the bios update for a tenner?!! What a ripoff.Do it yourself …CCL will do the bios update for a tenner?!! What a ripoff.Do it yourself for free.It's so easy to do nowadays.


If you don't have an AMD CPU then how could you update it yourself before being able to use it with Ryzen 9. Tbh I think as a service it is fair value to save you having to get a Ryzen upgrade kit from amd.
gu2gan17/07/2019 07:00

will this work with ryzen 9?


I personally wouldn't pair this specific board with Ryzen 9 as it's power delivery probably isn't up to it long term. Search am4 vrm tier list and there is a spreadsheet showing what has good or not vrm (power delivery). Most msi motherboards from the Msi b450 mortar and up will be absolutely fine and MSI tend to have some of the best vrm for the price.
Simon_E17/07/2019 07:56

If you don't have an AMD CPU then how could you update it yourself before …If you don't have an AMD CPU then how could you update it yourself before being able to use it with Ryzen 9. Tbh I think as a service it is fair value to save you having to get a Ryzen upgrade kit from amd. I personally wouldn't pair this specific board with Ryzen 9 as it's power delivery probably isn't up to it long term. Search am4 vrm tier list and there is a spreadsheet showing what has good or not vrm (power delivery). Most msi motherboards from the Msi b450 mortar and up will be absolutely fine and MSI tend to have some of the best vrm for the price.


Yeah a Tomahawk or Mortar would be a better fit (depending if you want ATX or mATX), fantastic boards.

Also they both have the advantage of being able to BIOS update without a CPU which is ideal for Zen 2 chips.
Edited by: "Gormond" 17th Jul 2019
mebzz16/07/2019 23:57

Same price ebuyer and a few quid more at amazon if people prefer to buy …Same price ebuyer and a few quid more at amazon if people prefer to buy from other than CCLPersonally I think CCL much better than Ebuyer


Ebuyer updated my x370 bios for free without buying a cpu, just contact customer care beforehand.
gu2gan17/07/2019 07:00

will this work with ryzen 9?


I would say no due to the VRMs needing airflow - info based from a google docs spreadsheet (search for "AM4 Vcore VRM Ratings v1.2 (2019-07-10").

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Updating BIOS for free is nice...buyers of a b450/70 should be aware that the Beta BIOSes (?) Offered by MSI are a right dogs dinner at the moment - I'm currently running a 3600 on a B450 Carbon Pro and it has not been a smooth ride at all. After multiple flashes, mixing RAM module placement, clearing CMOS multiple times and a host of other things I'm up and running stable in W10. However if I shut down the rig I, like many others are having a nightmare getting the machine to boot up unless I do a ridiculous amount of twiddling with power button, reset button and power cable. New beta BIOS should be out Friday, one can only hope it sorts out the cold boot issues.
Edited by: "Falchion76" 17th Jul 2019
Falchion7617/07/2019 09:21

Updating BIOS for free is nice...buyers of a b450/70 should be aware that …Updating BIOS for free is nice...buyers of a b450/70 should be aware that the Beta BIOSes (?) Offered by MSI are a right dogs dinner at the moment - I'm currently running a 3600 on a B450 Carbon Pro and it has not been a smooth ride at all. After multiple flashes, mixing RAM module placement, clearing CMOS multiple times and a host of other things I'm up and running stable in W10. However if I shut down the rig I, like many others are having a nightmare getting the machine to boot up unless I do a ridiculous amount of twiddling with power button, reset button and power cable. New beta BIOS should be out Friday, one can only hope it sorts out the cold boot issues.



I think that was also reported by Gamers Nexus too because the manufacturers didn't get all CPU SKUs before launch and hence some teething difficulties. I have the same motherboard but with a 3700x turning up, so hopefully it will go a bit smoother or I'll have to wait until MSI can resolve it (which they will).
davem17/07/2019 09:28

I think that was also reported by Gamers Nexus too because the …I think that was also reported by Gamers Nexus too because the manufacturers didn't get all CPU SKUs before launch and hence some teething difficulties. I have the same motherboard but with a 3700x turning up, so hopefully it will go a bit smoother or I'll have to wait until MSI can resolve it (which they will).


I'm sure that limited access to the new chips certainty contributed to the current, less than ideal circumstances, as I understand the prime issue is the size of the latest BIOSes which can't fit on the 16mb chips of many 3&4 series boards...at least not without sacrificing all the fancy GUI that everyone wants these days. Personally I'd happily take a stable text only BIOS with full functionality over any pretty dials and mouse support at the moment
Edited by: "Falchion76" 17th Jul 2019
nameskhan17/07/2019 07:23

Could anybody recommend a good graphics card to go with this motherboard?


3dfx Voodoo 2.
Despondent17/07/2019 10:03

3dfx Voodoo 2.


SLI I presume, just to ensure you get ultra settings on the latest AAA games?
Got this from ebuyer/ebay shop using 20% off brought it from £68 (yes its £57.99 in the normal shop )
so paid £55
Are Ryzen APUs out any good?
Any deals on the mortar or Tomahawk?
andyjst17/07/2019 14:16

Any deals on the mortar or Tomahawk?


Yeah I'm gutted I missed out on the tomahawk for £77ish the other day, there's been nothing since and was disappointed it wasn't on sale for prime day!
stamfordblue17/07/2019 07:52

CCL will do the bios update for a tenner?!! What a ripoff.Do it yourself …CCL will do the bios update for a tenner?!! What a ripoff.Do it yourself for free.It's so easy to do nowadays.



This motherboard doesn't have the ability to flash the BIOS without a CPU installed, so unless you have a previous generation AM4 CPU this could be difficult.
fleming22217/07/2019 20:12

This motherboard doesn't have the ability to flash the BIOS without a CPU …This motherboard doesn't have the ability to flash the BIOS without a CPU installed, so unless you have a previous generation AM4 CPU this could be difficult.


Fair enough.Didn't realise this was such a difficult board for bios flashing.
stamfordblue18/07/2019 08:01

Fair enough.Didn't realise this was such a difficult board for bios …Fair enough.Didn't realise this was such a difficult board for bios flashing.



It's not, this particular board doesn't support Flashback (flashing a bios without CPU/memory).

Because we've been forced to change motherboards all the time when a new Intel CPU is released, most people are not used to this situation where making existing hardware work with new CPU requires an update.
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