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Cheapest I’ve seen in a while, hopefully helps someone
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We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days old. I usually take news like this with a pinch of salt, but not when it comes to my daughter's life.

The current advice with regards to a baby's crib/cot/moses basket is that you put nothing in it aside from your baby. That's great advice based on sound research, so whilst the item is discounted, it's clearly discounted because people aren't buying them any more because they value their baby's life.
Edited by: "GlenBurn" 19th Mar
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ordered thanks op heat
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caverncity16 m ago

My daughter was after one of these so sent her the link then remembered a …My daughter was after one of these so sent her the link then remembered a news story I read and now she's not getting one. theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/06/uk-retailers-halt-sale-of-baby-sleep-positioners-after-us-warningThe company says nothing to do with them but it was the FDA who said it but best to be safe hey seens as we didn't use them nor my parents and so on.


You’ve just saved £22.60 then
Edited by: "Keifzzz" 19th Mar
Keifzzz27 m ago

You’ve just saved £22.60 then


Money isn't everything
Took a guess and assumed my sister needs ones of these for her newborn coming soon. I can always return it/pass it on if she has one. Thanks op
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caverncity16 m ago

Money isn't everything


I never said it was, but I think you should re read the article you linked, especially when it comes to this particular product
We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days old. I usually take news like this with a pinch of salt, but not when it comes to my daughter's life.

The current advice with regards to a baby's crib/cot/moses basket is that you put nothing in it aside from your baby. That's great advice based on sound research, so whilst the item is discounted, it's clearly discounted because people aren't buying them any more because they value their baby's life.
Edited by: "GlenBurn" 19th Mar
GlenBurn2 m ago

We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days …We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days old. I usually take news like this with a pinch of salt, but not when it comes to my daughter's life.The current advice with regards to a baby's crib/cot/moses basket is that you put nothing in it aside from your baby. That's great advice based on sound research, so whilst the item is discounted, it's clearly discounted because people aren't buying them any more because they value their baby's life.


There is a recent update to it here

madeformums.com/new…tml this also mentions this product
caverncity3 m ago

There is a recent update to it here …There is a recent update to it here http://www.madeformums.com/news-and-gossip/tesco-mothercare-and-ebay-remove-sleep-positioners-from-sale/43265.html this also mentions this product


And the update says...

The Lullaby Trust adds: "There are hundreds of baby sleep products on the market and parents assume that if something is for sale it is safe to use. We do not recommend pods, nests, hammocks, wedges and sleep positioners as evidence shows that the safest way for a baby to sleep is on a firm flat mattress, in a clear cot free of pillows, toys, bumpers and sleep positioners."

Not worth the risk.
GlenBurn5 m ago

And the update says... The Lullaby Trust adds: "There are hundreds of baby …And the update says... The Lullaby Trust adds: "There are hundreds of baby sleep products on the market and parents assume that if something is for sale it is safe to use. We do not recommend pods, nests, hammocks, wedges and sleep positioners as evidence shows that the safest way for a baby to sleep is on a firm flat mattress, in a clear cot free of pillows, toys, bumpers and sleep positioners."Not worth the risk.


As I said to my OH there has not been any deaths with this product but do you want your child to be the first.
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GlenBurn11 m ago

We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days …We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days old. I usually take news like this with a pinch of salt, but not when it comes to my daughter's life.The current advice with regards to a baby's crib/cot/moses basket is that you put nothing in it aside from your baby. That's great advice based on sound research, so whilst the item is discounted, it's clearly discounted because people aren't buying them any more because they value their baby's life.

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Just cancelled my order its a pity as it was a good price but it is for my first grandchild so cant take the risk.You cant blame the OP for posting this he obviously was unaware of these American safety issues and more to the point why haven't the UK done the same and perhaps some of you attacking the OP should perhaps bombard Amazon with questioning why they still sell it and Boots anyway like i said i have cancelled my order
Had one of these and it worked very well with my children. No problems whatsoever. All these comments are not helpful and are scaremongering . Yes, there have been associations but I would hope readers would be able to make an adult and informed decision about whether they wish to buy one of these or not.
So many things linked to SIDS/cot death, alcohol, smoking, falling asleep with baby in arms and so many more. Yet there is still so much that is unknown.

Its quite frankly amazing how the human race has survived for so long.

Have used these with both my boys (youngest has just turned 1), found them very useful for moving them from room to room when sleeping. Its basically.just a small, thin mattress......

Personally i would recommend them, used sensibly like everything else around kids.

Lets also be realistic there are so many other things that can kill ones so young or potentially have an impact on their health. Car fumes, aerosols, diet the list is endless.

This is what the nhs web site says

What can I do to help prevent SIDS?
Below is a list of things you can do to help prevent SIDS.

Do:

Always place your baby on their back to sleep.
Place your baby in the "feet to foot" position (with their feet touching the end of the cot, Moses basket, or pram).
Keep your baby’s head uncovered. Their blanket should be tucked in no higher than their shoulders.
Let your baby sleep in a cot or Moses basket in the same room as you for the first six months.
Use a mattress that's firm, flat, waterproof and in good condition.
Breastfeed your baby (if you can). See Why breastfeed? for more information.
Don't:

Smoke during pregnancy or let anyone smoke in the same room as your baby (both before and after birth).
Sleep on a bed, sofa or armchair with your baby.
Share a bed with your baby if you or your partner smoke or take drugs, or if you've been drinking alcohol.
Let your baby get too hot or too cold. A room temperature of 16-20C, with light bedding or a lightweight baby sleeping bag, will provide a comfortable sleeping environment for your baby.
Edited by moderator: "quoted deleted comment" 20th Mar
Mzms26 m ago

Had one of these and it worked very well with my children. No problems …Had one of these and it worked very well with my children. No problems whatsoever. All these comments are not helpful and are scaremongering . Yes, there have been associations but I would hope readers would be able to make an adult and informed decision about whether they wish to buy one of these or not.


The comments are highlighting the increased risks of babies dying. These are risks that are established by research. How is that "not helpful"?

The only way somebody can make "an adult and informed decision" is if they have the facts available to them. Which is what this
thread is doing.
GlenBurn2 h, 18 m ago

We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days …We had one of these but the news articles broke when our daughter was days old. I usually take news like this with a pinch of salt, but not when it comes to my daughter's life.The current advice with regards to a baby's crib/cot/moses basket is that you put nothing in it aside from your baby. That's great advice based on sound research, so whilst the item is discounted, it's clearly discounted because people aren't buying them any more because they value their baby's life.


Hysteria!!!!. Are you not forgetting that most cots and cribs need a mattress other wise you are putting them to sleep n wooden slats or rods or just a hard flat wooden surface.

I accept moses baskets are slighly different but i would persoanlly still like to wack in some sort of cusioning.

This is basically just a small mattress.
danskis21 m ago

So many things linked to SIDS/cot death, alcohol, smoking, falling asleep …So many things linked to SIDS/cot death, alcohol, smoking, falling asleep with baby in arms and so many more. Yet there is still so much that is unknown.Its quite frankly amazing how the human race has survived for so long.Have used these with both my boys (youngest has just turned 1), found them very useful for moving them from room to room when sleeping. Its basically.just a small, thin mattress...... Personally i would recommend them, used sensibly like everything else around kids.Lets also be realistic there are so many other things that can kill ones so young or potentially have an impact on their health. Car fumes, aerosols, diet the list is endless.This is what the nhs web site saysWhat can I do to help prevent SIDS?Below is a list of things you can do to help prevent SIDS.Do:Always place your baby on their back to sleep.Place your baby in the "feet to foot" position (with their feet touching the end of the cot, Moses basket, or pram).Keep your baby’s head uncovered. Their blanket should be tucked in no higher than their shoulders.Let your baby sleep in a cot or Moses basket in the same room as you for the first six months.Use a mattress that's firm, flat, waterproof and in good condition.Breastfeed your baby (if you can). See Why breastfeed? for more information.Don't:Smoke during pregnancy or let anyone smoke in the same room as your baby (both before and after birth).Sleep on a bed, sofa or armchair with your baby.Share a bed with your baby if you or your partner smoke or take drugs, or if you've been drinking alcohol.Let your baby get too hot or too cold. A room temperature of 16-20C, with light bedding or a lightweight baby sleeping bag, will provide a comfortable sleeping environment for your baby.


And a little further down the page on the NHS website you copied from...

"Don't use duvets, quilts, baby nests, wedges, bedding rolls or pillows."

Did you get bored and stop reading?
danskis6 m ago

Hysteria!!!!. Are you not forgetting that most cots and cribs need a …Hysteria!!!!. Are you not forgetting that most cots and cribs need a mattress other wise you are putting them to sleep n wooden slats or rods or just a hard flat wooden surface.I accept moses baskets are slighly different but i would persoanlly still like to wack in some sort of cusioning. This is basically just a small mattress.


The accepted advice from health professionals is that babies should sleep on a firm and flat surface. Like a mattress.

These things are not completely flat, and the risk is that if a baby turns and becomes stuck on their front or side, the shaping of these things could block the airways in a way that a flat mattress could not.

So no, not hysteria at all. I read the articles, and the advice from the NHS and the Lullaby Trust and decided to not use it.
Edited by: "GlenBurn" 19th Mar
GlenBurn1 h, 22 m ago

The accepted advice from health professionals is that babies should sleep …The accepted advice from health professionals is that babies should sleep on a firm and flat surface. Like a mattress.These things are not completely flat, and the risk is that if a baby turns and becomes stuck on their front or side, the shaping of these things could block the airways in a way that a flat mattress could not.So no, not hysteria at all. I read the articles, and the advice from the NHS and the Lullaby Trust and decided to not use it.


Have you actually seen/inspected the product???

Remove the leg cushion and its pretty flat. The head area is ever so slightly recessed. They grow out of this so quickly and most likely (given its size) way before they can roll or turn over

. Keep the leg bit attached and they stand no chance or turning themselves.

The indentation area for the head is negligible and a mattress would probably create something similar shape indentation due to the weight of the head.

Other than that it is, as previously stated basically a mattress.

The advice given is general advice not reflecting any particular poducts.
Edited by: "danskis" 20th Mar
GlenBurn28 m ago

And a little further down the page on the NHS website you copied …And a little further down the page on the NHS website you copied from..."Don't use duvets, quilts, baby nests, wedges, bedding rolls or pillows."Did you get bored and stop reading?


I read it, thanks.

i would not class this item as any those items you have listed above.
danskis6 m ago

I read it, thanks.i would not class this item as any those items you have …I read it, thanks.i would not class this item as any those items you have listed above.


Why didn't you paste it into your post then?

And you may not consider this an item of concern, but the NHS (your chosen source of information) and the Lullaby Trust (an authority on preventing SIDS) does. Please don't take offence, but I'm not sure I would trust your knowledge on the matter over the experts when it came to my child's safety.
GlenBurn30 m ago

The accepted advice from health professionals is that babies should sleep …The accepted advice from health professionals is that babies should sleep on a firm and flat surface. Like a mattress.These things are not completely flat, and the risk is that if a baby turns and becomes stuck on their front or side, the shaping of these things could block the airways in a way that a flat mattress could not.So no, not hysteria at all. I read the articles, and the advice from the NHS and the Lullaby Trust and decided to not use it.


You do realise that mattresses are not completely flat when they have weight on them..... They are designed to give a little...... The shaping of this would certainly not obstuct its air way in my opinion and there is no reason why the baby would be face down on it (or any mattress) unless placed there by someone else.
danskis8 m ago

You do realise that mattresses are not completely flat when they have …You do realise that mattresses are not completely flat when they have weight on them..... They are designed to give a little...... The shaping of this would certainly not obstuct its air way in my opinion and there is no reason why the baby would be face down on it (or any mattress) unless placed there by someone else.


The advice from the NHS, and The Lullaby Trust is that babies should sleep on a flat and firm mates. Note that they say "firm". That's important.

I don't make this stuff up. I'm just repeating what is stated by people whose job is to reduce SIDS.

But maybe I should just ignore all that because in your opinion it doesn't matter.

But I won't give up. Read this.

There are hundreds of baby sleep products on the market and parents assume that if something is for sale it is safe to use.

"We do not recommend wedges and sleep positioners as evidence shows that the safest way for a baby to sleep is on a firm flat mattress, in a clear cot free of pillows, toys, bumpers and sleep positioners. Babies are at higher risk of SIDS if they have their heads covered and some items added to a cot may increase the risk of head-covering and can also increase the risk of accidents.

We recommend that while evidence on individual products is not widely available that parents do not take any chances and stick to scientifically proven safer sleep guidelines."

That is the advice from The Lullaby Trust.
GlenBurn38 m ago

The advice from the NHS, and The Lullaby Trust is that babies should sleep …The advice from the NHS, and The Lullaby Trust is that babies should sleep on a flat and firm mates. Note that they say "firm". That's important. I don't make this stuff up. I'm just repeating what is stated by people whose job is to reduce SIDS.But maybe I should just ignore all that because in your opinion it doesn't matter.But I won't give up. Read this.There are hundreds of baby sleep products on the market and parents assume that if something is for sale it is safe to use."We do not recommend wedges and sleep positioners as evidence shows that the safest way for a baby to sleep is on a firm flat mattress, in a clear cot free of pillows, toys, bumpers and sleep positioners. Babies are at higher risk of SIDS if they have their heads covered and some items added to a cot may increase the risk of head-covering and can also increase the risk of accidents.We recommend that while evidence on individual products is not widely available that parents do not take any chances and stick to scientifically proven safer sleep guidelines."That is the advice from The Lullaby Trust.


Firm mattress... Yes yes... But even firm mattresses have some flex, besides have you reviewed or inspected what constitues as a mattress in a lot.of products espically for new borns... just a bit of foam, pay a little more get sprung or pocket sprung... Perhaps latex. Certainly the foam in this was so thin in the main all you need to to it rest it on a table or other hard flat surface for it to bed extra firm, and wothout doubt firmer than many other linings.

Also if you take the advice to the extreme then you should.avoid carry cots for your baby travel system, as they have sides like cot bumpers/baby positioners.

All i am saying is that you have to look at each product and make your own assessment of the risk (funnily enough that is what the advice says). There is a reason why no products are recommended and only general advice is given and that is to avoid litigation if the worst happens.

Much like any religious text, at the end of the day it is how you interpret the information in front of you, based around your own experiences and knowledge.

My partner and i based on all of the above used this product twice without issue but not before fully inspecting it before hand.. Perhaps we may have thought differently if either was premature (probably not), if we were smokers, or drunk regular amounts of alcohol, or there were other medical issues with either child.

We both came to the conclusion, after viewing it that it was low risk.

Your assessment was different through your interpretation of the guidance and perhaps after viewing it... Perhaps not... Fair enough.
Edited by: "danskis" 20th Mar
danskis9 m ago

Firm mattress... Yes yes... But even firm mattresses have some flex, …Firm mattress... Yes yes... But even firm mattresses have some flex, besides have you reviewed or inspected what constitues as a mattress in a lot.of products espically for new borns... just a bit of foam, pay a little more get sprung or pocket sprung... Perhaps latex. Certainly the foam in this was so thin in the main all you need to to it rest it on a table or other hard flat surface for it to bed extra firm, and wothout doubt firmer than many other linings.Also if you take the advice to the extreme then you should.avoid carry cots for your baby travel system, as they have sides like cot bumpers/baby positioners.All i am saying is that you have to look at each product and make your own assessment of the risk (funnily enough that is what the advice says). There is a reason why no products are recommended and only general advice is given and that is to avoid litigation if the worst happens.Much like any religious text, at the end of the day it is how you interpret the information in front of you, based around your own experiences and knowledge. My partner and i based on all of the above used this product twice without issue but not before fully inspecting it before hand.. Perhaps we may have thought differently if either was premature (probably not), if we were smokers, or drunk regular amounts of alcohol, or there were other medical issues with either child.We both came to the conclusion, after viewing it that it was low risk.Your assessment was different through your interpretation of the guidance and perhaps after viewing it... Perhaps not... Fair enough.


If all you are saying is that I should look at the product and make my own assessment of the risk, why did your accuse me of hysteria for doing just that?

The guidance is to not use them. There is no interpretation needed.
GlenBurn27 m ago

If all you are saying is that I should look at the product and make my own …If all you are saying is that I should look at the product and make my own assessment of the risk, why did your accuse me of hysteria for doing just that? The guidance is to not use them. There is no interpretation needed.


Perhaps i might have been referring to the article that you read ..... Rather than your goodself.

I am also not criticising your decision to not buy the product.

Look public safety information/guidance has to be simple/ basic and err on the side of caution / risk reduction. If the trust started recommending certain types of product as safe other a similar looking but possibly differently made (but unsafe) product it would create confusion. So they err on the side of caution and make a general recommendation.

Certainly there is no scientific evidence on individual products and as it is there are infinitely different circumstances (biological, environmental etc) around each and every child and person alive today. Medical science still has a very long way to go to fully understand the intricacies of the human body and the cells thay make it..... Let alone all the viruses etc that it is exposed to.So they generalise...
Having read the initial guardian and the madeformums posts about this again it states the FDA link 12 deaths over a 13 year period in some of which babies had rolled from their side to their front and suffocated.thats indicating that babies were placed on their sides initially and not on their backs. I just wonder if we are going a bit over the top with this, these are only meant to be used in the early months and babies placed on their backs so highly unlikely they would be able to roll from their backs to their fronts. Perhaps a more startling bit of info is that there have been 665 baby deaths in the last 5 years through babies sharing parents beds in the UK Guardian article here theguardian.com/lif…ata
I had one of these for my little boy (before the article about it causing sids come out) it is only for supervised sleeping only and I wouldn’t recommend it because they grow out of it so quick it’s not worth it!
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Looks comfy!, what's the biggest size they do?
We got one and then saw the articles. Still made a decent baby changing surface with the bottom cushion removed.. Doesn't have to be used to sleep on so not a complete waste if you still end up getting it cheap / given.
These were recalled!!!!
Bought this when my daughter was born. Not really needed and starts material bobbling. Don't recommend it at all.
If I was buying this is ..I would obviously use the experts at HUKD's and the internet in general!
Edited by: "daalphamale" 20th Mar
had one of these for a few months now whats the issue with this model why is it unsafe ? genuinely asking because i will not use it anymore if this product is deemed unsafe ? bought mine from mothercare who still.sell.them
alpz133 h, 20 m ago

We got one and then saw the articles. Still made a decent baby changing …We got one and then saw the articles. Still made a decent baby changing surface with the bottom cushion removed.. Doesn't have to be used to sleep on so not a complete waste if you still end up getting it cheap / given.


what artice ? thanks
Best piles cushion going.
Avoid this unless you want to increase your babys risk of SIDS!
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