BAOFENG UV-5R UHF / VHF Walkie Talkie save 31% £18.81 delivered @ gearbest flash sale.
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BAOFENG UV-5R UHF / VHF Walkie Talkie save 31% £18.81 delivered @ gearbest flash sale.

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Found 18th Dec 2017
BAOFENG UV-5R UHF / VHF Walkie Talkie Main Features:
Frequency range: VHF 136-174MHz, UHF 400-480MHz
Step frequency: 2.5 / 5 / 6.25 / 10 / 12.5 / 20 / 25KHz
Work temperature: -20 centigrade degrees to +60 centigrade degrees
Work way: Different / same frequency signal work
Frequency combination: PLL frequency synthesis
Transmitter electric current: No more than 1500mA
Receiver electric current: No more than 380mA
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anderton_james17 m ago

Great radios, but you will need a amatuer radio li cense to use legally in …Great radios, but you will need a amatuer radio li cense to use legally in the uk.


Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and comment there about licence requirements?.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 18th Dec 2017
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Just messaged you @SOUTHWALES 😬
Today's walkie talkie deal!
These deals are great what is everyone doing with these things
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I guess that "Work way: Different / same frequency signal work" is a bad translation from the Chinese for Repeater Offset.
Great radios, but you will need a amatuer radio li cense to use legally in the uk.
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anderton_james17 m ago

Great radios, but you will need a amatuer radio li cense to use legally in …Great radios, but you will need a amatuer radio li cense to use legally in the uk.


Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and comment there about licence requirements?.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 18th Dec 2017
Mine is programmed with Marine and PMR frequencies, both of which I am licenced for
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andygoole5 m ago

Mine is programmed with Marine and PMR frequencies, both of which I am …Mine is programmed with Marine and PMR frequencies, both of which I am licenced for




How can you be licenced for pmr frequencies, pmr is licence free but some may argue your radio is over powered to transmit on pmr. In my opinion though pmr should be moved up to at least 4 watts. 0.5 watts is not enough, if nothing else they could have at least rounded it to 1 watt.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 18th Dec 2017
Yeah you can t use these without a license, just a heads up that's all as I didn't know until I bought and used these and got a slap on the wrist from the police. Something to do with the detachable antenna and the distance it can transmit, that's why you should have your own license and frequencies so as not to inter with all the other local pmr users
SOUTHWALES8 m ago

How can you be licenced for pmr frequencies, pmr is licence free but some …How can you be licenced for pmr frequencies, pmr is licence free but some may argue your radio is over powered to transmit on pmr. In my opinion though pmr should be moved up to at least 4 watts. 0.5 watts is not enough, if nothing else they could have at least rounded it to 1 watt.



No its not license free....PMR446 is a very narrow section of the spectrum which is license free but the vast majority of PMR frequencies require a license
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wookey226 m ago

Yeah you can t use these without a license, just a heads up that's all as …Yeah you can t use these without a license, just a heads up that's all as I didn't know until I bought and used these and got a slap on the wrist from the police. Something to do with the detachable antenna and the distance it can transmit, that's why you should have your own license and frequencies so as not to inter with all the other local pmr users


How did you get caught? Only pmr licence free radios should not have a removable antenna, I am surprised A police officer even knows the law on these radios.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 18th Dec 2017
Kids using them as walkie talkies around neighbourhood, police stopped them as I guess it looks suspicious, then we get a lecture on the rules etc and told to buy then some cheap kids ones
SOUTHWALES30 m ago

Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and …Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and comment there about licence requirements?.


It is common knowledge that a licence in required in order to drive a car or operate a TV to view broadcasts. It is not however, common knowledge that a licence is required for a "walkie talkie" (which can operate on the HAM bands) and you should not be misleading others by not specifiying this on your 'deals'. You should be pointing this out.

legislation.gov.uk/ukp…nts

It is illegal to operate these frequencies without a licence and you should not be inciting others to break the law!
I have no interest in these but I voted hot because I think it is a good thing that people can buy very cheap higher powered radio devices, as the argos 2 way radios only work so far. As others have mentioned before it doesn't affect the encrypted emergency broadcast systems, but it does seem to upset ham radio enthusiasts, which isn't a good enough reason to vote it cold.

Anglers don't like it when a scruffy kid turns up with no rod license, a £15 rod and some earthworms and catches more than them with their rod license, angling club membership, years of experience, £1000 kit, complicated rigs and expensive bait. Doesn't make the £15 rod a poor deal.
Do you still need a license if you get one just for listening in?
lianse10 m ago

Do you still need a license if you get one just for listening in?


No license is needed to listen in, effectively the same as using a scanner to listen in to air or marine transmissions.
SOUTHWALES48 m ago

Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and …Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and comment there about licence requirements?.



I'm grateful for the comment as I might have been tempted to buy this but have no wish to flout the radio laws.
Will these work on UK marine bands?
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cubemaster196818 m ago

It is common knowledge that a licence in required in order to drive a car …It is common knowledge that a licence in required in order to drive a car or operate a TV to view broadcasts. It is not however, common knowledge that a licence is required for a "walkie talkie" (which can operate on the HAM bands) and you should not be misleading others by not specifiying this on your 'deals'. You should be pointing this out.https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/36/contentsIt is illegal to operate these frequencies without a licence and you should not be inciting others to break the law!


How am I inciting others to brake the law? That is quite a serious allegation to accuse someone of on a public forum. You only need a licence to transmit, there is no law against owning one of these radios.
hartswood7 m ago

Will these work on UK marine bands?



Yes they will but they will need programmed to the correct frequencies and to show the Marine channel number rather than the actual frequency. I have some with the marine frequencies programmed.
Before anyone asks....I have a marine license, a PMR license and a class A Amateur license
SOUTHWALES21 m ago

How am I inciting others to brake the law? That is quite a serious …How am I inciting others to brake the law? That is quite a serious allegation to accuse someone of on a public forum. You only need a licence to transmit, there is no law against owning one of these radios.



Apologies, inciting might have been too strong a word so maybe encouraging is soft enough. Either way, if someone see's a deal on HUKD then it must be legit.

From OFCOM

Why regulate radio?
The use of radio continues to expand rapidly. This applies to business, broadcasting and
leisure activities. The use of radio is carefully planned to give as high a standard of service
as possible. Unauthorised use of radio can cause harmful interference to legitimate users.
Safety of life may be put at risk if, for example, the radios used by emergency services suffer
interference.The successful running of a business can be affected by radio interference.
Listeners can be prevented from enjoying their favourite radio station by interference. This is
why Ofcom takes action to prevent interference and why the penalties that may be imposed
by the courts for unlawful use of radio can be heavy.

and

Section 8 of the WTA states

8. Licences and exemptions

(1)It is unlawful—

(a)to establish or use a wireless telegraphy station, or

(b)to install or use wireless telegraphy apparatus,

except under and in accordance with a licence (a “wireless telegraphy licence”) granted under this section by OFCOM

So, if it is capable of transmitting then yes you need a licence. If caught there is no way a person could prove that they did not transmit.

All I'm saying is to point out that a licence is required to operate such radio.

For radio Amatuers these are great deals but rest of the general public may fall foul of the law.
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I bet more of these cheap units have sold to none licensed folk twice over and some.
Unsure why the do gooders are even bothered as without the small interest that is left the hobbitwould dwindle!
So all you have to do is buy a licence to use this? How does that stop me from clogging airways or annoying enthusiasts?
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SOUTHWALES2 h, 36 m ago

Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and …Out of interest, do you also go on the car and television deals and comment there about licence requirements?.

LOL! No, its more along the lines of making those that are not aware of the requirements to use it aware of them.
sprite1275941 h, 51 m ago

So all you have to do is buy a licence to use this? How does that stop me …So all you have to do is buy a licence to use this? How does that stop me from clogging airways or annoying enthusiasts?



Covered by the Amateur Radio licences, see rsgb.org/mai…io/
More rewarding than CB radio, courses run by local radio clubs.
SOUTHWALES5 h, 44 m ago

How can you be licenced for pmr frequencies, pmr is licence free but some …How can you be licenced for pmr frequencies, pmr is licence free but some may argue your radio is over powered to transmit on pmr. In my opinion though pmr should be moved up to at least 4 watts. 0.5 watts is not enough, if nothing else they could have at least rounded it to 1 watt.


No offence OP but this lack of understanding is why these products are so potentially damaging to legitimate users. Licened users of UHF PMR can be 4 watts (or more) but PMR446 cannot.
People buy these things, assume it's ok to fiddle around and use any frequency and cause no end of problems, blissfully unaware of the headaches being caused, but it must be alright because they're on Amazon.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 18th Dec 2017
sprite1275944 h, 13 m ago

So all you have to do is buy a licence to use this? How does that stop me …So all you have to do is buy a licence to use this? How does that stop me from clogging airways or annoying enthusiasts?


Well if you got a licence, typically it would allow the use of a specific channel(s) and higher power transmissions, but the cheapest licence means they're countrywide shared channels that means you might hear other users who also bought the same type of licence. Then there's businesses that buy the right to use a licence in a specific location and OFCOM (theorectically) assign you a frequency that is out of range of other users nearby so you get exclusive use (no interference) dotted around the country are various users on slightly different frequencies generally not interferring with eachother.

Then someone buys a Baofeng, programs in any channel from 400 to 470Mhz and broadcasts... causing potentially all sort of problems for the above legitimate users of licenced PMR.

It's not just Hams that could be affected but any legitimate licenced PMR user, like airports, taxis, train stations, building sites, shopping centres, industrial etc etc.

Hams get annoyed because they took the time to study to get their licence, it's not a 5 minute online test and then someone gets these radios and causes a load of hassle.

Am I just making a wild guess about the problems of interference? no it's something that I can get involved with from time to time and they're a real pain in the arse.

However most people glaze over when hearing/reading the above and just do it, coz it won't matter and you'll never get caught right? - well you might get caught and fined
Edited by: "spannerzone" 18th Dec 2017
spannerzone2 h, 31 m ago

Well if you got a licence, typically it would allow the use of a specific …Well if you got a licence, typically it would allow the use of a specific channel(s) and higher power transmissions, but the cheapest licence means they're countrywide shared channels that means you might hear other users who also bought the same type of licence. Then there's businesses that buy the right to use a licence in a specific location and OFCOM (theorectically) assign you a frequency that is out of range of other users nearby so you get exclusive use (no interference) dotted around the country are various users on slightly different frequencies generally not interferring with eachother. Then someone buys a Baofeng, programs in any channel from 400 to 470Mhz and broadcasts... causing potentially all sort of problems for the above legitimate users of licenced PMR. It's not just Hams that could be affected but any legitimate licenced PMR user, like airports, taxis, train stations, building sites, shopping centres, industrial etc etc.Hams get annoyed because they took the time to study to get their licence, it's not a 5 minute online test and then someone gets these radios and causes a load of hassle.Am I just making a wild guess about the problems of interference? no it's something that I can get involved with from time to time and they're a real pain in the arse.However most people glaze over when hearing/reading the above and just do it, coz it won't matter and you'll never get caught right? - well you might get caught and fined


Some fair points fairly made, along with some good information. I think this approach is better than the prohibitionist "you need a license" approach, which really only serves to encourage people to be rebellious (which is understandable, as what can you do in Britain without someone saying you need a license, land owners permission, local authority permission, pay a fee or tax?). It's a shame they couldn't just up the power of the 8 channel with 38 sub channel argos sets of two ways as most folk that are not interested in causing trouble or listening in on "anoraks" would be happy with say 7 mile coverage.

There are online streams of emergency broadcasts for those interested in that, and I dare say some online streams of HAM enthusiast talk. I am sure it can be quite interesting for some people, I remember hearing about some HAM guy where I used to work bouncing radio signals off the moon to speak to people abroad. I never spoke to him about it though as he was an unpleasant odd bod and a far right nationalist activist, but I am sure most are not like that.
OP, Are you the official UK importers of these?
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trevcjohnson42 m ago

OP, Are you the official UK importers of these?


I wish.


Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 18th Dec 2017
I've been using my Baofeng 888s mainly at airsoft weekends but sometimes they're useful at large events where the local cell towers can't handle the extra people trying to connect. Also multi-car road trips. They're useful in very specific circumstances.
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