Baofeng UVB2 PLUS VHF / UHF Dual Band 8 watt long range Programmable Walkie Talkie £20.42 delivered @ gearbest flash sale, only 22 units remaining.
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Baofeng UVB2 PLUS VHF / UHF Dual Band 8 watt long range Programmable Walkie Talkie £20.42 delivered @ gearbest flash sale, only 22 units remaining.

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Found 27th Dec 2017Edited by:"SOUTHWALES"
Charger is 110-240v but will need a travel adapter available from poundland as it has a none UK plug.


Dual-band handheld transceiver with LCD screen
. DTMF encoded
. Rechargeable 4800mAh lithium-ion battery with fast charging dock
. Commercial FM radio receiver (65 MHz - 108MHz)
. Incorporates 105 codes "DCS" and 50 privacy codes "CTCSS" programmable
. Function "VOX" (voice operated transmission)
. Alarm function
. Up to 128 memory channels
. Broadband (wide) / Narrowband (narrow), selectable
. High / low (8W / 1W) power selectable
. BEEP functionon the keyboard
. Dual watch / dual reception
. Selectable frequency step 2.5 / 5 / 6.25 / 10 / 12.5 / 25KHz
. OFFSET (frequency offset for repeater access) function
. Battery saving function "SAVE"
. Timer transmission "TOT" programmable
. Selecting the Scan Mode
. Busy Channel Lock "BCL"
. Built-in RX CTCSS / DCS scan
. Built-in white LED flashlight
. Crossband reception
. Tone end of transmission
. Built-in key lock
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Is this HAM? Anyone know the rang? Im hoping for 10 miles Thanks
wildbilly14 m ago

Is this HAM? Anyone know the rang? Im hoping for 10 miles Thanks



Yes it's amateur radio & is illegal to use in the United Kingdom without a licence. It CANNOT be used on PMR legally either.
Edited by: "SixtyFive" 27th Dec 2017
SixtyFive45 m ago

Yes it's amateur radio & is illegal to use in the United Kingdom without a …Yes it's amateur radio & is illegal to use in the United Kingdom without a licence. It CANNOT be used on PMR legally either.



All very true.
But its also true, that its very unlikely that if you used it you would get caught.
8 watts too? not a bad spec if that is right
not great for ham radio either.. to complicated to program.. better with a dedicated rig.
As for 10 miles .. well if you stood on a mountain you might just get 10 miles...
see for range
Edited by: "noeltech2000" 27th Dec 2017
poisondwarf27 m ago

All very true.But its also true, that its very unlikely that if you used …All very true.But its also true, that its very unlikely that if you used it you would get caught.8 watts too? not a bad spec if that is right



Does that make it legal?
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SixtyFive27 m ago

Does that make it legal?


I don't think it will be long before they make these radios licence free, ham enthusiasts are getting less by the day and with these cheaper radios flooding the market it is going to make I harder for ofcom to police, not that they police it much now anyway, especially as the emergency services now use encrypted radios.
SOUTHWALES1 h, 37 m ago

I don't think it will be long before they make these radios licence free, …I don't think it will be long before they make these radios licence free, ham enthusiasts are getting less by the day and with these cheaper radios flooding the market it is going to make I harder for ofcom to police, not that they police it much now anyway, especially as the emergency services now use encrypted radios.


Does that make it legal now?
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SixtyFive6 m ago

Does that make it legal now?


No, but when a law is no longer enforced you can tell change is in the air.
SOUTHWALES1 m ago

No, but when a law is no longer enforced you can tell change is in the air.



So what you claim is actually pure speculation with no foundation in truth isn't it.
I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're going to allow most crimes to be legalised.
With frequencies becoming more congested and more legitimate users, it's just as likely OFCOM might prosecute more unlicenced users.

I suspect the lack of many prosecutions is purely down to lack of funding, OFCOM still have staff to investigate interference and they're serious about it too, it's just like all other government agencies, they have less money and stretched resources. Don't take it to mean they don't care about illegal radio users though.

The OP never wants to listen to any comments about the pitfalls using unlicenced radio equipment and if they're in Wales, or somewhere far from heavy radio users then they'll probably have no troubles at all but that doesn't mean it's OK to do so or go recommending others to do so without at least pointing out the need for a licenced to use these legitimately.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th Dec 2017
spannerzone8 m ago

I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're …I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're going to allow most crimes to be legalised. With frequencies becoming more congested and more legitimate users, it's just as likely OFCOM might prosecute more unlicenced users.I suspect the lack of many prosecutions is purely down to lack of funding, OFCOM still have staff to investigate interference and they're serious about it too, it's just like all other government agencies, they have less money and stretched resources. Don't take to mean they don't care about illegal radio users though.



Don't avoid the question just answer it.
So what you claim is actually pure speculation with no foundation in truth isn't it.
That's for anyone who attempts to deflect from the question I asked.
Do you agree spannerzone that what SOUTHWALES say's is absolute 100% speculation & has no foundation in truth.
Edited by: "SixtyFive" 27th Dec 2017
spannerzone9 m ago

I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're …I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're going to allow most crimes to be legalised. With frequencies becoming more congested and more legitimate users, it's just as likely OFCOM might prosecute more unlicenced users.I suspect the lack of many prosecutions is purely down to lack of funding, OFCOM still have staff to investigate interference and they're serious about it too, it's just like all other government agencies, they have less money and stretched resources. Don't take it to mean they don't care about illegal radio users though.The OP never wants to listen to any comments about the pitfalls using unlicenced radio equipment and if they're in Wales, or somewhere far from heavy radio users then they'll probably have no troubles at all but that doesn't mean it's OK to do so or go recommending others to do so without at least pointing out the need for a licenced to use these legitimately.



So you do agree that SOUTHWALES is using speculation & attempting to convince others when he's totally wrong.
SixtyFive4 m ago

Don't avoid the question just answer it.So what you claim is actually pure …Don't avoid the question just answer it.So what you claim is actually pure speculation with no foundation in truth isn't it.That's for anyone who attempts to deflect from the question I asked.


Excuse me I think you're mistaking my comments for the OPs. Yes you need a licence to operate these radios. In most of the deals the OP posts about these radios I mention about need a licence and the pitfalls using these without one. He chooses to ignore such comments and thinks people who say such things are just party poopers or goody two
shoes.
spannerzone1 m ago

Excuse me I think you're mistaking my comments for the OPs. Yes you need a …Excuse me I think you're mistaking my comments for the OPs. Yes you need a licence to operate these radios. In most of the deals the OP posts about these radios I mention about need a licence and the pitfalls using these without one. He chooses to ignore such comments and thinks people who say such things are just party poopers or goody twoshoes.



No I'm not. I just think it needs to be made absolutely clear SOUTHWALES is wrong.
Right I've deleted my comments as you've edited yours and I'll look like a knob.

Yes he's wrong as it clearly needs pointing out apparently. The OP is not interested in such discussion what so ever.
He's under the misguided delusion that as the police/fire/ambulance use encryption these radios won't interfere with them. As he refuses to listen to comments about interference it's wasted on him unfortunately.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th Dec 2017
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spannerzone2 h, 28 m ago

I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're …I hardly see any police on the streets at all these days, I hear they're going to allow most crimes to be legalised. With frequencies becoming more congested and more legitimate users, it's just as likely OFCOM might prosecute more unlicenced users.I suspect the lack of many prosecutions is purely down to lack of funding, OFCOM still have staff to investigate interference and they're serious about it too, it's just like all other government agencies, they have less money and stretched resources. Don't take it to mean they don't care about illegal radio users though.The OP never wants to listen to any comments about the pitfalls using unlicenced radio equipment and if they're in Wales, or somewhere far from heavy radio users then they'll probably have no troubles at all but that doesn't mean it's OK to do so or go recommending others to do so without at least pointing out the need for a licenced to use these legitimately.


More legitimate users from where? Ham users are dying out and many businesses are moving to other technologies.

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spannerzone2 h, 25 m ago

Right I've deleted my comments as you've edited yours and I'll look like a …Right I've deleted my comments as you've edited yours and I'll look like a knob. Yes he's wrong as it clearly needs pointing out apparently. The OP is not interested in such discussion what so ever.He's under the misguided delusion that as the police/fire/ambulance use encryption these radios won't interfere with them. As he refuses to listen to comments about interference it's wasted on him unfortunately.


How would these radios interfere with emergency services on airwaves encryption?, airwaves operate around 380 - 393mhz, baofengs are 400-520mhz.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 28th Dec 2017
SOUTHWALES9 h, 31 m ago

More legitimate users from where? Ham users are dying out and many …More legitimate users from where? Ham users are dying out and many businesses are moving to other technologies.[Video]


I know you don't believe this but UHF spectrum is extremely overcrowded and in places like London it's pretty much impossible to get an exclusive UHF frequency for business use. Sure the rest of the country may not be so congested but there is still huge demand for UHF frequencies. Until recently it was possible to use OFCOM's frequency search and you'd see huge lists of users. Sure some move to cellular but many still use UHF PMR radios because it offers group calls, the ability to talk to all your staff, or a department in one press of a button. Some users have tried moving to mobile phones only to find they're not the right tool for talking to a lot of users in one go. Plus decent PMR radios can take a lot more abuse than a typical mobile phone or PDA. Am I making guesses about this? no it's an industry I work in.

If you just put a note saying a licence is required to use these radios then no one would make a fuss about your deals!
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Dec 2017
SOUTHWALES9 h, 18 m ago

How would these radios interfere with emergency services on airwaves …How would these radios interfere with emergency services on airwaves encryption?, airwaves operate around 380 - 393mhz, baofengs are 400-520mhz.


Indeed you are right and my mistake although the fire services do use 460 Mhz range for some services.
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spannerzone20 m ago

I know you don't believe this but UHF spectrum is extremely overcrowded …I know you don't believe this but UHF spectrum is extremely overcrowded and in places like London it's pretty much impossible to get an exclusive UHF frequency for business use. Sure the rest of the country may not be so congested but there is still huge demand for UHF frequencies. Until recently it was possible to use OFCOM's frequency search and you'd see huge lists of users. Sure some move to cellular but many still use UHF PMR radios because it offers group calls, the ability to talk to all your staff, or a department in one press of a button. Some users have tried moving to mobile phones only to find they're not the right tool for talking to a lot of users in one go. Plus decent PMR radios can take a lot more abuse than a typical mobile phone or PDA. Am I making guesses about this? no it's an industry I work in.


It is a shame they will not allow for a few more watts on pmr 446, especially as they have now added an extra 8 channels. This could lower demand for the baofengs, as I am sure most people would want to stay within the law, even 2 watts would be reasonable. simonthewizard.com/201…ts/ or if nothing else allow a small allocation somewhere in the frequency where they can operate there higher watt baofeng type radios, as I said earlier they are hear to stay, especially as there now readily available on the likes of Amazon.
Edited by: "SOUTHWALES" 28th Dec 2017
SOUTHWALES15 m ago

It is a shame they will not allow for a few more watts on pmr 446, …It is a shame they will not allow for a few more watts on pmr 446, especially now as they have now added an extra 8 channels. This could lower demand for the baofengs, as I am sure most people would want to stay within the law, even 2 watts would be reasonable. https://simonthewizard.com/2016/10/10/16-channel-pmr-legal-across-all-eu-uhf-cb-starts/


To be honest I think I'd prefer that as well rather than people using radios on other frequencies without a licence, at least they'd be in a much more controlled section of frequency band. Even 1 watt would make a difference and out in the countryside you'd unlikely to bother anyone at all and for walkers, hiking etc that would be great but in a city you'd be more likely interfering with other people. Still that can and does happen with licensed users as it's so overcrowded in places.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Dec 2017
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noeltech200016 h, 5 m ago

not great for ham radio either.. to complicated to program.. better with a …not great for ham radio either.. to complicated to program.. better with a dedicated rig. As for 10 miles .. well if you stood on a mountain you might just get 10 miles...see for range [Video]


10 miles line of site sure, Radio Amateurs on 2m and 70cm bands use repeaters and this one has the repeater offset, so range will depend on you ur local repeater coverage and if you have one in range
Thanks for the info. I am 5 miles from GB3NI and with the rubber duck the Baofeng doesn't do it but my yaesu has no problem.. Thanks
Edited by: "noeltech2000" 28th Dec 2017
It's completely legal to use these for listening to other users. It's actually surprising how many businesses use public PMR channels. I got a new Baofeng UV-82 for Christmas and was listing to crane operators at a nearby railway yard. They swore a lot which is also against the rules for public channels but it didn't seem like the police turned up to arrest anyone.
SixtyFive27th Dec

Does that make it legal?



No it doesnt...but i have to ask...
Have you ever broken the law?
And, before you ask, yes i have and yes i have been punished, albeit for minor infringements
Edited by: "poisondwarf" 29th Dec 2017
poisondwarf4 h, 6 m ago

No it doesnt...but i have to ask...Have you ever broken the law?And, …No it doesnt...but i have to ask...Have you ever broken the law?And, before you ask, yes i have and yes i have been punished, albeit for minor infringements



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