Basic 39" 4k TV £199 - Seiki-se39ua01uk £199.98 @ ebuyer
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Basic 39" 4k TV £199 - Seiki-se39ua01uk £199.98 @ ebuyer

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Found 25th Jun 2015
Not the best TV in the world but 4k for under £200 might benefit anyone on a budget.

It only does 30hz at 4k as its not HDMI2 but if you just want a cheap TV with a high resolution its a cheap price for sure

Now back up to £249.99. Expired.
- Fleabum

44 Comments

The best 4k digital photo frame money can buy.

Not freeview HD, I wonder how good/bad the SD picture looks on this... reviews suggest it's OK as a monitor for editing and multi taking but not for anything action based. Needing a new TV for bedroom but I think the 1080p refurbed panny's on ebay might be a better buy, heat for the price though... Beat My Price might be able to offer it for a little bit less too, with it being ebuyer.
Edited by: "Grohller" 25th Jun 2015

At 200 squids this deal is a very good deal... but... and this is a major BUT, if your wanting this for fast 4K gaming, save your money.

30Hz is just not good enough for the majority of fast paced games, but if you want a hybrid 4K productivity screen with a decent 1080p gaming screen this will work for you.

This TV can be loaded with custom firmware to allow 120Hz gaming at 1080p, which gives a great trade-off between 4K@30 for desktop tasks for those who need the screen real estate, and an acceptable 1080p@120 gaming experience.

I've chucked this past BespokeOffers to see what they can do, would be a great monitor for the misses SOHO.

Regards
Flea

How does 30hz work as a monitor for doing work? I find at 50hz I see a flicker in the corner of my eye but 75/85 hz appears rock steady, admittedly on much older monitors but 30hz sounds like it might be noticeable especially as with such a big screen there is bound to be some in the motion sensitive outer edges of visual range?

only 30Hz? that's awful for any tv

Original Poster

its only 30hz on 4k, all other resolutions are 60+ i believe.

m1chaels

How does 30hz work as a monitor for doing work? I find at 50hz I see a … How does 30hz work as a monitor for doing work? I find at 50hz I see a flicker in the corner of my eye but 75/85 hz appears rock steady, admittedly on much older monitors but 30hz sounds like it might be noticeable especially as with such a big screen there is bound to be some in the motion sensitive outer edges of visual range?

Refresh rate on LCD monitors is not like on CRTs - there will be no flicker, just less frequent updates to the pixels being shown.
If there is a lot of motion, you might notice frame drops in video / games but it will do fine for general computing.

Heated & given it a punt - cheers OP

Typical marketing BS, 4K it may be but I'd hazard a guess that the rest of the elements that make up a good picture ie sharpness, contrast, colour reproduction may well be lacking but hey you can tell all your friends you have a 4K TV lol. 30hz would make this terrible for pretty much anything other than a static picture. 4K doesn't automatically mean you will get an amazing image.
Edited by: "Donkii" 25th Jun 2015

Fleabum

At 200 squids this deal is a very good deal... but... and this is a major … At 200 squids this deal is a very good deal... but... and this is a major BUT, if your wanting this for fast 4K gaming, save your money.30Hz is just not good enough for the majority of fast paced games, but if you want a hybrid 4K productivity screen with a decent 1080p gaming screen this will work for you.This TV can be loaded with custom firmware to allow 120Hz gaming at 1080p, which gives a great trade-off between 4K@30 for desktop tasks for those who need the screen real estate, and an acceptable 1080p@120 gaming experience.I've chucked this past BespokeOffers to see what they can do, would be a great monitor for the misses SOHO.RegardsFlea




Chances are if you can only afford £200 on a 4k TV, you can't afford the rest of the gear to run it at 60FPS anyway.

Well I chucked this past BespokeOffers and it came back at £178.98.

39" screen for £178.98, 4K or non 4K is still a good deal.

Regards
Flea

Garbage tv

Fleabum

Well I chucked this past BespokeOffers and it came back at £178.98.39" … Well I chucked this past BespokeOffers and it came back at £178.98.39" screen for £178.98, 4K or non 4K is still a good deal.RegardsFlea



4K aside that is a really good price.

Triple 39" setup...*drool*

m1chaels

How does 30hz work as a monitor for doing work? I find at 50hz I see a … How does 30hz work as a monitor for doing work? I find at 50hz I see a flicker in the corner of my eye but 75/85 hz appears rock steady, admittedly on much older monitors but 30hz sounds like it might be noticeable especially as with such a big screen there is bound to be some in the motion sensitive outer edges of visual range?



Depends if the monitor has a flickering backlight I guess. With CRTs it's horrible but it just means that LCDs will update the picture itself 30 times a second, not the backlight.

so using this for a monitor, do people think this is a bad idea? I currently have the dell p2214h I picked up from nrg a while back, but would it be a bad idea to swap it out for this?

If I got this as a monitor I'd need a new graphics card. Anyone know of some cheapish graphics cards that could drive this monitor?

Banned

leehardacre

The best 4k digital photo frame money can buy.


I remember when 5 inches photo frames were this price.

Banned

PSmith222

If I got this as a monitor I'd need a new graphics card. Anyone know of … If I got this as a monitor I'd need a new graphics card. Anyone know of some cheapish graphics cards that could drive this monitor?


Intel 4000

pig69er

Intel 4000


Have you got a link? Is it PCIe?
Has this TV got a display port input?
Edited by: "PSmith222" 25th Jun 2015

He's just having a laugh mate - Intel 4000 is the lowest of the low in terms of graphical performance.

It has no display port input, only HDMI. To get the best picture, you'd have to put it into PC mode, normally HDMI1.

Something like this will do you just fine - it has 3 ports - 1 x VGA, 1 x DVI and 1 x HDMI.

DO NOT BUY THIS TV! I bought this off gumtree with the intention of using it as my girlfriend's monitor. Not only can I NOT get 4k working at all between 3 pcs (with the exception of using their upscaling hdmi cable) but the input lag is absolutely unbearable. You move your mouse and around 1/4 of a second later it moves on the screen, so much so my girlfriend refused to use her rig. The input lag is actually made worse when using their special cable as it interpolates and re renders each frame making the lag EVEN WORSE. The usa version has an updated firmware which makes it marginally more usable but the UK version does not (I asked them directly via their Facebook page) and the usa firmware does not work on the uk models as I've tried. Mines now been sitting in my spare bedroom doing nothing since the day I bought it.Do not buy.

Might I add, the interpolation cable makes the video/audio REALLY out of sync (it seems slightly out of sync anyway :/) you'd need to tweak your settings on your sky box to delay the audio. If you have no means of doing this using any other source you're pretty screwed tbh

Cold based on real user experience... Thanks bigc

Banned

freeview 4k

Sounds like a shocker.

One other thing, is the sound has no bass and is very tinny. Didnt bother me when i bought it as like i said it was for the girlfriend to use as a monitor (and she uses headphones). All in all though an absolute turkey of a TV, so much so i cant get rid of it without losing a substantial amont of cash (i paid 250 for it in january). If you look at the reviews on amazon for this, you will notice theyre either pretty good, or horrendous. it seems that the pretty good ones are almost exclusively people who have bought the american version, which is almost impossible to find in the UK after they launched the UK version. If Seiki release an update the firmware I will post here, although when i asked them in end of april / start of may they told me there was no plans for a firmware update for the UK version.

thomasaroche

Review of the Seiki 39" 4K as a computer screen replacement



Igore this review, he is using the American version of this TV, which is vasty different from the UK one. This was one of the reviews which made me go for this tv in the first place!

tomjwalker

so using this for a monitor, do people think this is a bad idea? I … so using this for a monitor, do people think this is a bad idea? I currently have the dell p2214h I picked up from nrg a while back, but would it be a bad idea to swap it out for this?


30hz refresh on a monitor will drive you crazy - so much lag on the mouse, it's hard to use.
I tried a cheap 4k TV with 30Hz and sent it back; now have 4k/60Hz monitor and it's wonderful.
Particularly enjoying my photos - I hadn't realised how much 1080p (2Mpixels) butchers a 10-12 Mpixel photo.

bigc90210

Not only can I NOT get 4k working at all between 3 pcs (with the … Not only can I NOT get 4k working at all between 3 pcs (with the exception of using their upscaling hdmi cable) but the input lag is absolutely unbearable. .



Well bigc90210, my early testing says the TV is not the issue, maybe your unit is faulty, or you have issues with your PC's. I plugged this directly in place of my existing 42" LG 4K set-up and BAM its there and working...

So moving on, this TV arrived this morning by Yodel and here are my initial thoughts:-

Packaged well, contains :-
39" 4K TV - surprisingly light, 15mm screen border
Stand - Very nice heavy black glass, solid as a rock when attached to the TV, no wobbles at all
Remote control - SEIKI branded TV remote, nothing special, but it works well from wide angles
"KingKong" batteries - sure they must be the biggest, baddest batteries as there 'KingKong'
MiniAV converter cable - phono to mini-AV (CVBS/R/L)
Mini YPBPR converter cable - Y/PB/PR to mini-YPBPR
1.8m HDMI cable - quite a nice gold plated SEIKI branded blue braided cable
Boxed U-Vision cable - SEIKI branded 4k up-scaling cable for those without proper 4K set-ups
Quick Set-up Guide
User Manual
Screws - for attaching the stand to the TV, these are poor, make sure you use the right screwdriver bit

Okes, now onto the important bits, the physical testing. Bare in mind this is tested from the point of view of someone who will use it for a monitor for desktop work, including coding, graphics, general email/web browsing and Office.

General:-
Windows 7 detected this and worked out the box, no extra configuration needed

Picture:-
Contrast and brightness are good, on par with my LG
Text is as clear and perfectly readable from approx 3 feet
Colours are well represented

Input Lag:-
4K has some input lag but its not that bad, and I think its something I would get used to if I was on a budget
1080p slightly less input lag with default firmware
4k gaming has slightly higher lag than desktop and not advised, but 1080p is acceptable

Moving video:-
Initial video streaming tests are good, with high bit rate 1080p sources showing great colour and definition, although it does have slight ghosting on very fast movement. On certain content there may also be a slight delay between video and audio sync so you would need to use software players that can account for this.

My conclusion:-
The TV is what it was designed to be, a budget 4K device. It does offer good screen quality on desktop and normal video content, but struggles with fast content. It would be a great desktop monitor for those who can get used to the slight input lag but need the extra screen real estate for large Excel spreadsheets, coding or photo editing.

So if you use 4K desktop and game at 1080p (that's what I do, as my crossfired ATI cards just cant handle 4K gaming at an acceptable quality) this monitor will just about fit those needs, and at the price I paid for it, £178 its an absolute bargain. If you struggle with any input lag, or expect to game in 4K this is not the screen for you.

**edit - the UK version of this uses a different processor and the hacked US firmware cant be used**

Regards
Flea


Edited by: "Fleabum" 26th Jun 2015

Fleabum

My conclusion:-The TV is what it was designed to be, a budget 4K device. … My conclusion:-The TV is what it was designed to be, a budget 4K device. It does offer good screen quality on desktop and normal video content, but struggles with fast content. It would be a great desktop monitor for those who can get used to the slight input lag but need the extra screen real estate for large Excel spreadsheets, coding or photo editing.So if you use 4K desktop and game at 1080p (that's what I do, as my crossfired ATI cards just cant handle 4K gaming at an acceptable quality) this monitor will just about fit those needs, and at the price I paid for it, £178 its an absolute bargain. If you struggle with any input lag, or expect to game in 4K this is not the screen for you.**edit - the UK version of this uses a different processor and the hacked US firmware cant be used**RegardsFlea



Thank you very much for that review Fleabum. I have ordered this TV for the office for coding - I am tired of having two smaller 1080p monitors, and have since I read simpleprogrammer's review over a year ago, dreamed of getting one myself. I will only get 24hz @ 4K from an intel hd 4600 even, not sure if I should invest in a cheap graphics card that supports 30hz instead...

Also nice to know what actually is in the box, cheers!

Lahn

Thank you very much for that review Fleabum. I have ordered this TV for … Thank you very much for that review Fleabum. I have ordered this TV for the office for coding - I am tired of having two smaller 1080p monitors, and have since I read simpleprogrammer's review over a year ago, dreamed of getting one myself. I will only get 24hz @ 4K from an intel hd 4600 even, not sure if I should invest in a cheap graphics card that supports 30hz instead...Also nice to know what actually is in the box, cheers!



I tried to install this on my better half's PC but it would not work with the GTX 260 she had in it. I thought this would be the case as its quite an old card, even though the card said in Windows that it supported 4K & 1440p, the TV would not work at either of these resolutions, the TV said no signal. It could have been my £1 shop HDMI cable or my Dual-Link DVI-HDMI converter, that was only some cheap Chinese affair.

You might have the same sort of issue with your Intel 4600, so be prepared to update your GPU as well.

So just picked up a ATi 270X and got that fitted, plugged in my cheap £1 HDMI cable, installed the catalyst drivers, and BOOM, now got 4k in all its glory... her first comments... eww, the icons are so small now... /facepalm

She also noticed the input lag, said it made the mouse feel to quick to her... but the screen difference was worth the minor inconvenience of the lag.

Anyways, banging Insider final Win 10 on it and then use advanced scaling, then she will be good to go.

Regards
Flea

I run windows 8.1 at work, will not be able to stick win 10 on it before it's released... (Just upgraded to win10 on my laptop, and it's definitely too buggy for everyday use in my opinion - or apps just need to be updated, or I just need to run them in compatibility mode... either way, 8.1 is what I've got for now)

A quick google for GTX 260 shows that officially, it only supports "Maximum Digital Resolution
2560x1600".
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-260/specifications

I looked up my motherboard which claims 4K @ 24hz, so fingers crossed!
Edited by: "Lahn" 28th Jun 2015

Lahn

Just upgraded to win10 on my laptop, and it's definitely too buggy for … Just upgraded to win10 on my laptop, and it's definitely too buggy for everyday use in my opinion



Not had any major issues in the 6 months I've been testing it...

Regards
Flea

Fleabum

**edit - the UK version of this uses a different processor and the hacked … **edit - the UK version of this uses a different processor and the hacked US firmware cant be used**RegardsFlea



Hmmm interesting, is yours definitely the UK model? the PC's we tried it on:

Girlfriends (i5 running a Radeon 6850)
Mine (i7 running Triple Titans in SLI)
Server PC (i5 running a GT 740)

It is a possibility that I may have a dud, it appears that many do from the amazon reviews

is there any way to find out what firmware yours is on? and i'll compare to mine. I'd rather attempt to get it so its usable so its not gathering dust, so any feedback from yours is appreciated

bigc90210

Hmmm interesting, is yours definitely the UK model? the PC's we tried it … Hmmm interesting, is yours definitely the UK model? the PC's we tried it on:Girlfriends (i5 running a Radeon 6850)Mine (i7 running Triple Titans in SLI)Server PC (i5 running a GT 740)It is a possibility that I may have a dud, it appears that many do from the amazon reviews :/is there any way to find out what firmware yours is on? and i'll compare to mine. I'd rather attempt to get it so its usable so its not gathering dust, so any feedback from yours is appreciated



It was badged as the UK model. I tried both Menu 0000, and Menu 2947 to get into engineers menu, but neither work on my unit.

I got it working on crossfired 6850's and singular 270x. Both using latest ATI catalyst drivers.

Regards
Flea

Lahn

Thank you very much for that review Fleabum. I have ordered this TV for … Thank you very much for that review Fleabum. I have ordered this TV for the office for coding - I am tired of having two smaller 1080p monitors, and have since I read simpleprogrammer's review over a year ago, dreamed of getting one myself. I will only get 24hz @ 4K from an intel hd 4600 even, not sure if I should invest in a cheap graphics card that supports 30hz instead...Also nice to know what actually is in the box, cheers!


Have you tried it out yet?

I'm after a cheap 4k for coding too.

Fleabum

Well I chucked this past BespokeOffers and it came back at £178.98.39" … Well I chucked this past BespokeOffers and it came back at £178.98.39" screen for £178.98, 4K or non 4K is still a good deal.RegardsFlea




Did anyone get this from bespoke-offers please? Can you please let me know how long it took to deliver? I've bought this and it says bought from fireworks merchant 2-4 working days delivery. It's been more than a day and still awaiting for dispatch ... and no email confirmation whatsoever...

ssatoh_inreverse

Did anyone get this from bespoke-offers please? Can you please let me … Did anyone get this from bespoke-offers please? Can you please let me know how long it took to deliver? I've bought this and it says bought from fireworks merchant 2-4 working days delivery. It's been more than a day and still awaiting for dispatch ... and no email confirmation whatsoever...



I bought it through BespokeOffers. I was really surprised when it was delivered next day (within 16 hours).

BTW :- Fireworks merchants was setup by the same guy that did Flubit. They are basically a drop shipper.

Regards
Flea

_g_

Have you tried it out yet?I'm after a cheap 4k for coding too.



Heya, yes sorry for the delay in returning to this post. I have now had the monitor for a week, and can give my review on it.

First of all, I am used to 2x26" (1200p) at home, and 2x22" 1080p at work.
The 4K is a godsend to programmers, but you already know that.

It took me a few days to actually properly use all the space I have to work on now (and I may still not use it optimally). Windows doesn't really cater to people who want loads of windows aligned nicely on one monitor, but 8.1 finally supports "show only tasks on the task bar on the monitor on which the application is active", however I still felt like I needed to install something that helps me position all my windows. I spent an hour setting up a bunch of grids in GridMove.

The input delay is very very real, and it does drag down the overall experience significantly, but the extra space for a programmer makes up for it, and easily justifies the £200 price tag (I'd happily have paid 300 for it even). When you just use the keyboard, it's generally not an issue - I have gotten used to inputs being slightly delayed, and it's only when I have to delete/highlight a bunch of lines or characters that I have to slow down to make sure I don't delete/highlight too much.

The latency when moving the mouse about is less annoying with a bit of patience, but it does reduce what I otherwise would call a 8/10 "monitor" to maybe a 5/10. The picture is perfectly fine - I am sure it's not colour accurate etc, but I wouldn't notice that anyway. To make it easier to drag and resize windows, I have also installed AltDrag.

Basically, if you think you can live with a 350ms input delay, then I would highly recommend it.

As a side note - I've been streaming some tennis via my phone (via HDMI) from iplayer, and it looks surprisingly good!
Also, the service menu is accessible by pressing 0852.

I hope Seiki will release a firmware update to the UK model as they did with the US one, but I honestly don't think that will happen
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