Bassetts on the go vitamins £1.00 @ Poundland
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Bassetts on the go vitamins £1.00 @ Poundland

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Found 23rd Oct 2013
just found this at poundland. it chewy pastiles. good vitamin and price as well. on Amazon £1.53 but add on item so it's bargain. hopefully good for anyone need it.
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Asda are selling these off cheaper in clearance. Akso bassetts kids vitamins for 65p

fishmaster

http://www.medicaldaily.com/multivitamins-not-only-waste-money-potentially-harmful-247186


That article is a complete load of junk. Any moron would know vitamin pills aren't going to prevent heart disease or cancer ffs. It's like eating fruit and veg but sitting on your **** all day without actively burning calories off is not going to turn you into superman.

How about these articles?
bbc.co.uk/new…028
bbc.co.uk/new…796

Of course vitamin supplements are no substitute for a healthy diet but some of us simply don't maintain a healthy diet and supplements help.

Sorry if this fact annoys the salad freaks out there but they really should calm down, stress kills.

mamboboy

That article is a complete load of junk. Any moron would know vitamin … That article is a complete load of junk. Any moron would know vitamin pills aren't going to prevent heart disease or cancer ffs. It's like eating fruit and veg but sitting on your **** all day without actively burning calories off is not going to turn you into superman.How about these articles?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20710028http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24641796



What the evidence states is that multivitamins are of no use, there are specific supplements which may help people. What I'm trying to say is that people shouldn't be taking multivitamins because they think they have to, there isn't evidence to support taking a combination of vitamins/minerals such as in these products.

Also the BBC article you linked regarding Vitamin D is flawed, the Vitamin D that should be taken if necessary is Vitamin D3, there's no mention of this in the article, it just mentions cheap, well cheap and the wrong type of Vitamin D is virtually useless anyway.

Also these articles fail to take in to consideration the bioavailability of supplements and factors affecting bioavailability >

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc…29/

Pharmaceuticals are tested and known to work, if you take Diazepam for example, you know it's going to have an effect and various side effects however supplements are a whole different story, they can vary as there's no standard way of formulating them for bioavailability between manufacturers. Some vitamins are prescribed by doctors, such as the case of Thiamine (Vitamin B1) which is a known deficiency in alcoholics. So firstly before you supplement, research the bioavailability and quality of the the supplement you're taking. A standardised version of a herbal extract is not always the best. For example Turmeric contains Curcumin, which you can get as a standardised formula, meaning that's the supposed active ingredient. However Turmeric has other constituents which are synergistic, so by taking just one active component you may not be getting all of the desired effect. This is a complex issue, and there's no way I would be putting powerful chemicals in to my body without at least some appreciation of the pros and cons of doing so.

There is absolutely no reason to be taking this product and it could well have zero effect or even be harmful over time. Unfortunately many of us are taking these formulas because we think due to our current lifestyles they offer some insurance policy, they do not!


Edited by: "fishmaster" 24th Oct 2013

I work in clincal trials of drugs and have a degree in biochemistry

Vitamin supplements might be overkill, your body might not use or need the large amounts. However, good diet has been shown to reduce the risk of lots of diseases and conditions and part of the diet that causes this is the vitamins and minerals

In todays world it is so hard to get your '5 a day'

For me, it's a minor cost that 'might' stop me getting a life threatning condition - no brainer really

Each to their own - there are plenty of other things that cost alot more with lesser effect - the minmal cost and potential life changing benefits, its not worth the time arguing about

PS how many in a pack?

stphnstevey

I work in clincal trials of drugs and have a degree in … I work in clincal trials of drugs and have a degree in biochemistryVitamin supplements might be overkill, your body might not use or need the large amounts. However, good diet has been shown to reduce the risk of lots of diseases and conditions and part of the diet that causes this is the vitamins and mineralsIn todays world it is so hard to get your '5 a day'For me, it's a minor cost that 'might' stop me getting a life threatning condition - no brainer reallyEach to their own - there are plenty of other things that cost alot more with lesser effect - the minmal cost and potential life changing benefits, its not worth the time arguing about



It is worth debating. Where's the evidence that any of the compounds in the product in this deal are effective, effective for what and are they bioavailable? Where are the lab tests on this product that prove the bioavailability? This is a case of take a bunch of stuff I think might be good for me because I'm not sure I'm getting this stuff that I think I need. That is about as unscientific as you can get.

Most importantly, people are supplementing with multivitamins as some sort of insurance against a poor diet, which is absolutely not the case. If you eat a proper balanced diet, and don't have any diagnosis of illness which results in a nutritional deficiency then you're generally ok. If however you eat crap and take multivitamins because you think they will fix the problem you are mistaken. Fix the problem which is your diet and don't rely on products such as this.

You work in the pharma industry so you're aware of the clinical trials which require a number of phases to have been completed before the drug can be licensed, yes the drugs are synthetic, some such as Rozerem mimic the actions of supplements such a Melatonin for example. Supplement products where a number of naturally occurring powerful compounds are put together where the effective action is unknown. For example many multivitamins that contain minerals such as Magnesium use poorly bioavailable versions such as Magnesium Oxide, which is virtually useless, they wouldn't use Magnesium Citrate or Magnesium Threonate for example as these would increase the cost.

Drugs have been tested and passed clinical trials. I'm no fan of 'big pharma' it's definitely in it for the money. However regardless at least the pharma drugs are known to have an effective action in the body. We know that these vitamins and minerals have important functions in the body, however we really don't know the exact amounts each individual requires. Linus Pauling for example advocated huge amounts of Vitamin C, then you had the nonsense of Othomolecular Medicine which came about in the 60s and 70s. People respected Pauling because he'd done great scientific work in other areas, but he really should have been on Quackwatch for advocating such huge megadoses of vitamins. So we know that drugs have been tested and work, and we know that the human body requires and needs vitamins and minerals, scurvy and berri berri show the devastating effect that nutrient deficiency can have on the body. However in the Western world even with our junk food diets we don't get scurvy or berri berri.

So I simply ask again, we know that drugs such as Ramipril, Diazepam, Ibuprofen etc have been tested and passed clinical trials, do we know that this product is effective in providing all the basic vitamins in a bioavailable form or are we just plain guessing?



Edited by: "fishmaster" 26th Oct 2013

It's a lot more scientific than what passes for most dietary advice.

fishmaster

It is worth debating. Where's the evidence that any of the compounds in … It is worth debating. Where's the evidence that any of the compounds in the product in this deal are effective, effective for what and are they bioavailable? Where are the lab tests on this product that prove the bioavailability? This is a case of take a bunch of stuff I think might be good for me because I'm not sure I'm getting this stuff that I think I need. That is about as unscientific as you can get.Most importantly, people are supplementing with multivitamins as some sort of insurance against a poor diet, which is absolutely not the case. If you eat a proper balanced diet, and don't have any diagnosis of illness which results in a nutritional deficiency then you're generally ok. If however you eat crap and take multivitamins because you think they will fix the problem you are mistaken. Fix the problem which is your diet and don't rely on products such as this. You work in the pharma industry so you're aware of the clinical trials which require a number of phases to have been completed before the drug can be licensed, yes the drugs are synthetic, some such as Rozerem mimic the actions of supplements such a Melatonin for example. Supplement products where a number of naturally occurring powerful compounds are put together where the effective action is unknown. For example many multivitamins that contain minerals such as Magnesium use poorly bioavailable versions such as Magnesium Oxide, which is virtually useless, they wouldn't use Magnesium Citrate or Magnesium Threonate for example as these would increase the cost. Drugs have been tested and passed clinical trials. I'm no fan of 'big pharma' it's definitely in it for the money. However regardless at least the drug is known to have an effective action in the body. We know that these vitamins and minerals have important functions in the body, however we really don't know the exact amounts each individual requires. Linus Pauling for example advocated huge amounts of Vitamin C, then you had the nonsense of Othomolecular Medicine which came about in the 60s and 70s. People respected Pauling because he'd done great scientific work in other areas, but he really should have been on Quackwatch for advocating such huge megadoses of vitamins. So we know that drugs have been tested and work, and we know that the human body requires and needs vitamins and minerals, scurvy and berri berri show the devastating effect that nutrient deficiency can have on the body. However in the Western world even with our junk food diets we don't get scurvy or berri berri. So I simply ask again, we know that drugs such as Ramipril, Diazepam, Ibuprofen etc have been tested and passed clinical trials, do we know that this product is effective in providing all the basic vitamins in a bioavailable form or are we just plain guessing?



wow, such a long detailed reply. I liked it just for you been intelligent

Original Poster

good debate. sorry for my stupidity about this so can't say anything.
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