Bean to Cup with Cappuchino machine - Delonghi Down to £369.99 @ Amazon
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Bean to Cup with Cappuchino machine - Delonghi Down to £369.99 @ Amazon

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Found 29th May 2014
This was already the cheapest quick way to get a full-blown cappuchino from a machine at home, but now it's gone down to £370.

If you make yourself 8 shots of coffee per day you can save yourself £380 per year compared to the same with a nespresso machine (back of an envelope calculation in second post)

2 year warranty from Delonghi, they will collect and return within a week.

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Calculation for the saving over nespresso:

First you can find some suppliers who will supply organic fair trade espresso beans in 1kg bags for £12 delivered although you need to get quantity.

a nespresso cap contains 6 grams of coffee and costs 30p

let's say the same shot in a bean to cup machine contains 14 grams of coffee, which is rather generous in Nespresso's favour, then the costs are as follows:-

beans = 71 cups per kilo = 17p per cup
nespresso = 1 cup per cap (I actually found I needed 2 capsules but there you go) = 30p per cup

Mathematically speaking if your household does 8 cups of coffee a day,

In nespresso world, it costs £2.40 per day, and £876 per year in capsules.
In bean to cup world, it costs £1.36 per day, and £496 per year in coffee beans

You'd save about £380 in the first year!

What this shows is that the bean to cup machine in 2 years of life (it's guarantee period) is pretty much guaranteed to cost far less than coffee from any nespresso machine, the nespresso being the inkjet printer of the coffee world, while the bean to cup is the laser printer that doesn't mind what toner (beans) you use...

Why didn't you just change the price on your other deal?

Thanks bought one.
Anybody know if it's any good?

we have 3 similar ESAM machines at work (one is 4 years old, two are 2 years old) that are used in a 30 person office everyday and then taken to trade shows 3 times a year (150-200 cups per day for 1 week) plus i have the cheaper ECAM model at home and other than needing de-scaling none of the machines has had a single fault that needed fixing or repairing.

I cant rate the whole delonghi bean to cup range highly enough.
Edited by: "dchbrown" 29th May 2014

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IamMT

Why didn't you just change the price on your other deal?



Yeah I looked into this a while ago and I was told provided it's gone down in price by at least a few pence you can resubmit the deal.

This is nearly 10% cheaper than that one.

I've had one for 2 years and it's pretty good, had a few issues with an empty circuit fill circuit but sent it back and they fixed it up.
Edited by: "kerridge0" 29th May 2014

while this is a good price for this machine, the cheaper model at £199 is arguable the better option.

hotukdeals.com/dea…375

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dchbrown

while this is a good price for this machine, the cheaper model at £199 is … while this is a good price for this machine, the cheaper model at £199 is arguable the better option.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/delonghi-esam04-110-s-magnifica-15-bar-bean-cup-espresso-machine-199-99-amazon-1904375



Someone said that the steam wand on that one wasn't quite strong enough to do proper micro-foam on it, meaning in my mind that it's not really a massive benefit over the capabilities of this one (which doesn't have a steam wand and can't do a proper foam either). This one should also be much quicker as it has two thermo-blocks, allowing it to be ready to heat the milk immediately after the coffee.

Edited by: "kerridge0" 29th May 2014

kerridge0

Someone said that the steam wand on that one wasn't quite strong enough … Someone said that the steam wand on that one wasn't quite strong enough to do proper micro-foam on it, meaning in my mind that it's not really a massive benefit over the capabilities of this one (which can't either). This one should also be much quicker as it has two thermo-blocks, allowing it to be ready to heat the milk immediately after the coffee.


As a purist I'd say thermoblock machines often don't provide the temperature stability of boiler machines and that looking at this machine I agree you'll be unlikely to get microfoam from the steam wand, though you probably will get a slightly coarser version of the frothy meringue most coffee shops serve up so probably good enough. That said it looks like good value for a half way decent all in one machine. A Gaggia Classic plus decent burr grinder will set you back over £400 and I doubt your coffee will taste any better unless you perform a Rancilio Silvia steam wand transplant costing a further £25 to £30 to give you true flat microfoam.

kerridge0

Calculation for the saving over nespresso:First you can find some … Calculation for the saving over nespresso:First you can find some suppliers who will supply organic fair trade espresso beans in 1kg bags for £12 delivered although you need to get quantity.a nespresso cap contains 6 grams of coffee and costs 30plet's say the same shot in a bean to cup machine contains 14 grams of coffee, which is rather generous in Nespresso's favour, then the costs are as follows:-beans = 71 cups per kilo = 17p per cupnespresso = 1 cup per cap (I actually found I needed 2 capsules but there you go) = 30p per cupMathematically speaking if your household does 8 cups of coffee a day, In nespresso world, it costs £2.40 per day, and £876 per year in capsules.In bean to cup world, it costs £1.36 per day, and £496 per year in coffee beansYou'd save about £380 in the first year!What this shows is that the bean to cup machine in 2 years of life (it's guarantee period) is pretty much guaranteed to cost far less than coffee from any nespresso machine, the nespresso being the inkjet printer of the coffee world, while the bean to cup is the laser printer that doesn't mind what toner (beans) you use...



You make a valid point though the fair trade coffee I used to buy cost £5-8 per 250gm making that anywhere from £20 - £32 a kilo which could potentially take your 17p a cup up to over 45p! Plus buying a 1Kg bag means you might sacrifice freshness for cost which the Nespresso are good at.

I have had both an espresso machine and Nespresso and I am now hooked on Nespresso for it's taste (on some not all)and ease of use, cleaning and continuity, though I still miss the espresso machine, I guess the point I am trying to make is that espresso is as expensive as the machine and the coffee you use, use mediocre cheaper coffee and it does make a big difference regardless of the cost of the unit.

I am still voting hot for the deal I just think price comparisons between the 2 can be a bit harsh sometimes when each sides pros and cons aren't pointed out fairly.

Looks like a great deal to me so heated.

I don't care a stuff that you posted it at a higher price previously. I never saw your previous deal post!

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DAZZ2000

Looks like a great deal to me so heated.I don't care a stuff that you … Looks like a great deal to me so heated.I don't care a stuff that you posted it at a higher price previously. I never saw your previous deal post!



Yeah I really don't know how this works. I had imagined that a better deal would get a better score. I think I will just keep an eye out for 1p off a tin of beans from now on.

kerridge0

Yeah I really don't know how this works. I had imagined that a better … Yeah I really don't know how this works. I had imagined that a better deal would get a better score. I think I will just keep an eye out for 1p off a tin of beans from now on.



Don't dwell on the heat score; sometimes there's just no rhyme or reason to it. I think it depends on the audience that see it at the time. Don't forget it's half term too!

Don't let this put you off. The site was founded upon finding good deals and sharing them. Some folks probably never will get that concept unfortunately but nevertheless your deals will be appreciated by those that matter.

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aclofty

You make a valid point though the fair trade coffee I used to buy cost … You make a valid point though the fair trade coffee I used to buy cost £5-8 per 250gm making that anywhere from £20 - £32 a kilo which could potentially take your 17p a cup up to over 45p! Plus buying a 1Kg bag means you might sacrifice freshness for cost which the Nespresso are good at.I have had both an espresso machine and Nespresso and I am now hooked on Nespresso for it's taste (on some not all)and ease of use, cleaning and continuity, though I still miss the espresso machine, I guess the point I am trying to make is that espresso is as expensive as the machine and the coffee you use, use mediocre cheaper coffee and it does make a big difference regardless of the cost of the unit. I am still voting hot for the deal I just think price comparisons between the 2 can be a bit harsh sometimes when each sides pros and cons aren't pointed out fairly.



Although I believe it is much cheaper overall, and bean freshness is overrated as they last a couple of months in those vacuum packs no problem, you're right about the cleaning, certainly against a traditional machine which needs a lot more cleaning and maintenance.

This machine does produce nice "pucks' of compressed dry coffee grounds, but you do have to clean the insides once every month or two, and the drip tray needs emptying every few days,

I must admit though I do have an issue with the nespresso, maybe irrational, the amount of packaging just does my head in!

I brought this machine the other week when it was £399 just had to send it back for a replacement as the infuser part managed to jam itself at the bottom of the machine and would not budge other than that it was great. hopefully it was just a one off fault replacement comes monday.
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