Beldray 5KW Cast Iron Stove, £170 @ B&Q Instore Only
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Beldray 5KW Cast Iron Stove, £170 @ B&Q Instore Only

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Found 29th Sep 2014
Beldray 5KW cast iron stove for £170. Been looking at stoves for a while, and if you're after a small one, this is a bargain. None available online. I got 1 this morning from Barnsley Stairfoot, i think there were about 9 available, and there were also some available at Cortonwood. You'll have to call your local store for availability. I tried to get an extra 10% with my tradepoint card but they weren't having any of it. You could try on a Wednesday with a pensioner, but I'm not sure you'd get it.

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I'd been looking at this, but a pity it's not suitable for smoke controlled areas. Maybe could get away with it using smokeless fuel?

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Lymmit

I'd been looking at this, but a pity it's not suitable for smoke … I'd been looking at this, but a pity it's not suitable for smoke controlled areas. Maybe could get away with it using smokeless fuel?



if you're burning an official 'smokeless fuel', it doesn't matter what you burn it on.

I can't thank you enough for posting, what a bargain, got from my store in Northampton.. Hot

Got one last week

Solid stove, but the door fastening is not great, Nor are the small tabs that hold the door glass in, or the small bolts that hold the throat plate in. Guarantee, for one year.

As I was considering a stove @£1100, quite a saving. Will use for a couple of years then sell it and buy a better stove.
This stove used on ebay finishes today, currently £155
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171476888272?

It is not Defra approved. Ring your council and find out if you are in a smoke controlled zone.
If they say no, get the name of the person that tells you this, write it down and note the time and date.
Speak to the engineer if possible.

£1000 fine for breach of Smoke control, it only takes one neighbour to complain. The name on the paper will save you a big fine.

Edited by: "mick2me" 4th Oct 2014

It's described as a "Boiler" stove on the B&Q site - anyone know if it includes a back boiler. BTW - Her,is ton Gate in Scotland have a load of these

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mick2me

Got one last weekSolid stove, but the door fastening is not great, Nor … Got one last weekSolid stove, but the door fastening is not great, Nor are the small tabs that hold the door glass in, or the small bolts that hold the throat plate in. Guarantee, for one year. As I was considering a stove @£1100, quite a saving. Will use for a couple of years then sell it and buy a better stove.This stove used on ebay finishes today, currently £155http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171476888272?It is not Defra approved. Ring your council and find out if you are in a smoke controlled zone.If they say no, get the name of the person that tells you this, write it down and note the time and date.Speak to the engineer if possible.£1000 fine for breach of Smoke control, it only takes one neighbour to complain. The name on the paper will save you a big fine.



if you are in a smoke control zone (like me), bear in mind you can still use a stove like this, provided you use smokeless fuel.

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PeterGammage

It's described as a "Boiler" stove on the B&Q site - anyone know if it … It's described as a "Boiler" stove on the B&Q site - anyone know if it includes a back boiler. BTW - Her,is ton Gate in Scotland have a load of these



i've no idea why its called a boiler stove, there is definitely no back boiler attached.

I can confirm no back boiler.
We are not in a smoke controlled zone, which is a surprise? I will be burning wood anyway.

It is not lined with fire board. It has Cast Back and sides, The grate is suitable for solid fuel and would benefit from a piece of fire board to burn wood on, to prevent loss of wood ash, a bed of which is required for burning wood..

If you are over 60, join B&Q over 60s club. Get 10% off this stove on Wednesdays.

This is not suitable for use in a smoke controlled zone. You cannot use a non approved stove in a smoke controlled area not matter what you burn on it. It is always best to use fireplace/stove showrooms who know exactly what they are talking about to give you the correct advice for your situation. If you don't things can and do go horribly wrong.

It is all good and well buying a cheap stove but have you thought about the quality of the stove for the price? The cheaper the price the cheaper the quality and the more likely it will be you will have problems with it. Also stoves should not have cast iron firebricks as they increase the temperature of the stove internally which means the stove gets overheated very quickly.

I have seen a stove similar to this one that actually melted in a customers home!!!

Please do not fit these stoves yourself get a HETAS engineer to do it. That is what they are there for. If you do not have it fitted by one and you have a problem and you have to claim off your home insurance they will ask you for the HETAS certificate to prove you had it fitted correctly. If not you will not be able to claim.

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hi woody,
if you live in a smokeless zone, you only need a defra approved stove if you are burning an unauthorised fuel, such as wood.
the information is here
https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules
and a list of fuels that can be burnt in smokeless zones can be found here
http://smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/fuels.php?country=e
This list is taken from the defra website, as authorised for use in smokeless zones.
Are you a HETAS installer? You seem a little confused on the rules.

Our HETAS installer attended to quote for installation, and has refused to install this stove.
States that he can see it wont pass a 'Smoke Test'!

mick2me

Our HETAS installer attended to quote for installation, and has refused … Our HETAS installer attended to quote for installation, and has refused to install this stove.States that he can see it wont pass a 'Smoke Test'!



Why?

A Smoke test is simple burn. Unless there is a real fault with the stove (and if there is I think everyone here would like to know as B&Q are selling dangerous goods) then there should be no problem.

Please let us know what the reason was as those of us who have bought may want to return if there is a good reason

Sorry for delay in reply.

I spoke to B&Q, they state stove like all their products meet requirements.
I got a quote for fitting from a second HETAS qualified fitter.
He stated that details on the plate show that the B.S. quoted is an even higher standard than 'CE' requirements.
He advises although this stove will not last as long as a stove in the region of £800, advises fit it and use it for a couple of years or more. Then upgrade to a better stove later. This we will do. I have seen these used sell on Ebay for £155.

If anyone needs a fitter in the Sleaford area or surrounds, this guy seems very good.

We have just fitted one of these stoves and it doesnt seem to be giving off much heat, the room is much colder since we fitted this compared to the open fire. I am re thinking the Burner and planning on putting the open fire back in. I need to go buy a new hood first. Shame really as we were told the Multi Fuel Burners were much better than open fires. We only fitted it over the summer and have used it on half a dozen occasions, but my opinion is that i wish we had just left it alone.

Mummawitch

We have just fitted one of these stoves and it doesnt seem to be giving … We have just fitted one of these stoves and it doesnt seem to be giving off much heat, the room is much colder since we fitted this compared to the open fire. I am re thinking the Burner and planning on putting the open fire back in. I need to go buy a new hood first. Shame really as we were told the Multi Fuel Burners were much better than open fires. We only fitted it over the summer and have used it on half a dozen occasions, but my opinion is that i wish we had just left it alone.



Did you put the stove into an open fire space in the chimney? If so its that's probably contributed to it as when the fire stands alone (ie not in a fireplace) it radiates heat on all sides. If its in a chimney space where an open fire used to be it only really radiates from the front and when this is compared to an open fire, the open fire will radiate more and more quickly.

Just completed laying slate hearth and slate tiling the fireplace orifice
Ours will be fitted in a couple of weeks, and will stand out slightly onto the hearth.

Already purchased 30 packs of Logs from Home Bargains
6 Verdo Heat logs (10kg) @ Home Bargains £2.79
Edited by: "mick2me" 22nd Nov 2014

I have one of these stoves I find it brilliant unfortunately while cleaning it ouuut today the inside Panal inside the stove fell down ? Not sure how to refit it ?

Which inside panel?

Mine is now fitted and working
Running OK on Heat Logs, once you get used to air control for them.

Hi, I have had this model for approx 5 years. I have gone through 4 replacement glasses, and am now desperate for a new grate as mine has burnt through. If anybody knows where I can get one I would be very grateful (no pun intended).
Thanks

Ive had mine in for a year i burn hiheat smokeless coal in the winter its on a low setting and one big shovel last from 8am to 5pm and right thru to the next day banked up b4 bed still going in the morning its so warm and cosy its a god send i even put a steel kettle of mulled wine i drink it and its lovely spiced aroma thru the house , i use kilin dried logs in a cold snap in summer , chimney swept we service every year shud last forever the nuts and bolts are easily ajusted and tighten oil all the hinges ect ect and fire cement the caps in the plates and hoovered the plates with a bit off messing about go back on easy i love it its my mate

Have now used this stove over 2 winters. There has been no problem with it at all and I cant understand the comments of needing replacement glasses or melted fire grate? The only slight problem is that the air adjustment is on a threaded bolt which wears and gets a little loose. It gives out lots of heat. I may replace this stove this year and buy a stove with a bigger door glass, or I may just use it again this winter.
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