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BG 13A 2-GANG SP SWITCHED SOCKET & USB CHARGER OUTBOARD ROCKER WHITE (8534F) £4.99 @ screwfix
BG 13A 2-GANG SP SWITCHED SOCKET & USB CHARGER OUTBOARD ROCKER WHITE (8534F) £4.99 @ screwfix

BG 13A 2-GANG SP SWITCHED SOCKET & USB CHARGER OUTBOARD ROCKER WHITE (8534F) £4.99 @ screwfix

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I found these on the screwfix website earlier and haven't seen them this cheap for one before. I know they have been available at 2 for £10 before and that they are the lower ampage ones but I wanted one and having had micro USB cables get very hot on 3.1a ports I wanted the slower ports for the socket next to my bed so I can charge my iPad and phone whilst having my bedside lamp plugged in.

Website states

White moulded outboard rocker socket with 2 x USB ports, 2.1A. Ideal for charging iPads, iPhones, tablets, mobiles, cameras and more. Features angled, in-line terminals and includes backed-out captive screws for easy installation.

Ideal Retrofit
ASTA Approved
Manufactured to BS 1363-2, EN 60950-1

I haven't posted before so please let me know if I have done something wrong.

Hope this helps someone get a bargain :-)

57 Comments

Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete quite quickly.

how hard are these to fit?

can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician

fish323

Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete … Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete quite quickly.



Are there any USB-C sockets out?

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician


Don't mean to sound like a jobs worth but if you have no electrical experience you should always get an electrician. Easy peasy for a sparky.

Better buy, if design appropriate - 3.1A. 2 for £14. Bizarrely one costs£12.99. Put 2 in basket to get price.

screwfix.com/p/l…442

Edited by: "tightpants" 6th Mar

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician



not too difficult need to make sure will fit existing box and bend wires out of way to get cover to sit nicely so you can screw on the plate

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician


They are essentially normal sockets in terms of wiring - the USB is all taken care of "internally" to the socket.

MrBeatnik

They are essentially normal sockets in terms of wiring - the USB is all … They are essentially normal sockets in terms of wiring - the USB is all taken care of "internally" to the socket.



yes well said

I have the 2.1amp in kitchen that's just to slow to charge phones. I bought another that's 3.1amp for lounge and that's charges fine although the touch screen on the phones won't work while charging. Static apparently I read... Im not a fan of these. Buy a decent 4 port charger for £12 ish.

check it's 2.1 not 3.1

wayners

I have the 2.1amp in kitchen that's just to slow to charge phones. I … I have the 2.1amp in kitchen that's just to slow to charge phones. I bought another that's 3.1amp for lounge and that's charges fine although the touch screen on the phones won't work while charging. Static apparently I read... Im not a fan of these. Buy a decent 4 port charger for £12 ish.



My thoughts exactly. These inbuilt usb ports to the sockets are a fad just like 3d on tv's. They are just included to raise the prices of sockets and to try and sell more.

Have a look at the below adaptors:
amazon.co.uk/d/l…0BR
or
amazon.co.uk/Auk…usb
or
amazon.co.uk/AUK…usb

Virtually the same price (£9.99 rather than £9.98) for a 2-pack at Argos which may be more readily accessible for most. This seems to be the 'normal' price so not quite a hot deal...

argos.co.uk/pro…220

No discussion on safety of these plus they on continuously using electricity. I'm no expert. Views anyone?

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician



If you need to ask, leave to an electrician.

gosh people really trying to demonise these I think they are good for me and use hardly any electricity in a year

although easy to fit (like for like wiring ) under new part p regs you cannot fit these yourself - only qualified electricians

oops what's that burning smell

fish323

Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete … Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete quite quickly.


I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket one end usb-c other end....??

Excuse my ignorance....

rob585

I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket … I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket one end usb-c other end....??Excuse my ignorance....



I've got a One Plus 3T which has USB-C and it's just standard USB-A on one end and C on the other, so can't see how these sockets will become obsolete quickly.

jameshalinson

Are there any USB-C sockets out?



​It is one one end the business end into your mobile or tablet, the other end remains as today

I bought 4 of these a few weeks ago when they were £10 for two -

screwfix.com/p/l…04f

One went bang (literally, I was sat next to it) within 24 hrs, complete with burning smell...so not convinced on the safety aspects!

obsydian

​It is one one end the business end into your mobile or tablet, the other … ​It is one one end the business end into your mobile or tablet, the other end remains as today


USB-C has been designed to phase out USB-A connectors.
Apple are the first to remove them. See the new Macbook Pro.
There's no need to have both other than for backwards compatibility.
It will take a long time to achieve that goal though, and wireless technologies will likely have overtaken long before that happens.

Sorry just to quote part P. You can install a replacement socket. Although I would add you should be competent (here is where it is woolly). It should be a straightforward diy job however read up on it all first.

Q5: What types of electrical work are 'non-notifiable'?
The following types of work are non-notifiable:
Replacing accessories such as socket-outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, for example, by fire, rodent or impact (1)
Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components (2)
Providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations (3)
Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding (4)
Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation (5) and consists of:
- adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit (6)
- adding socket-outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit (6)

Notes:
(1) On condition that the replacement cable has the same current-carrying capacity, follows the same route and does not serve more than one sub-circuit through a distribution board;
(2) If the circuit's protective measures are unaffected;
(3) If the circuit's protective measures and current-carrying capacity of conductors are unaffected by increased thermal insulation;
(4) Such work shall comply with other applicable legislation, such as the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations;
(5) Special locations and installations are listed below;
(6) Only if the existing circuit protective device is suitable and provides protection for the modified circuit, and other relevant safety provisions are satisfactory.

Special locations and installations (5):
Locations containing a bath tub or shower basin
Swimming pools or paddling pools
Hot air saunas
Electric floor or ceiling heating systems
Garden lighting or power installations
Solar photovoltaic (PV) power supply systems
Small scale generators such as micro-CHP units
Extra-low voltage lighting installations, other than pre-assembled, CE-marked lighting sets

Note: See Guidance Note 7 which gives more guidance on achieving safe installations where risks to people are greater.
Q6: How will Part P apply to DIY work?
Part P will apply to all electrical work in dwellings, whether carried out by professionals or DIYers.
Some DIY work will require the submission of a building notice to the local authority and the payment of a building control fee.
Some minor electrical work will not be notifiable (see above). Examples include adding a lighting or power point to an existing circuit, adding a spur to an existing circuit or replacing a light fitting.

Dr_Lovegod

No discussion on safety of these plus they on continuously using … No discussion on safety of these plus they on continuously using electricity. I'm no expert. Views anyone?


Safety wise they are fine.

Was the first load of cheap unbranded ones that had problems. Poor isolation between mains and ELV transformer output and lot of other issues.

Power consumption wise, yes they are on all the time, you have 5v all the time but there is no load.
Without a load they will use very small amounts of energy due to losses in the transformer and any circuitry afterwards to rectify and smooth out the voltage.
Energy consumption is really not a problem.


decent price but I would not bother with 2.1 get 3.1 instead

2.1 is so slow, I had to get them because I was looking at costs. it takes ages to charge any device up
like an overnight job!

psd99

decent price but I would not bother with 2.1 get 3.1 instead 2.1 is so … decent price but I would not bother with 2.1 get 3.1 instead 2.1 is so slow, I had to get them because I was looking at costs. it takes ages to charge any device uplike an overnight job!


With one device conected 2.1A should charge at the same rate as a 3.1A.

The figure quoted is the transformer output shared across 2 ports.
A phone will either charge at 1A or 2A depending on the model.
Charge current is limited by the device. You could connect it up to a 100A transformer and it will still charge at 2A.

you can buy 2 all day long for £10,so not much saving, al wait, till there 2 for £5,,it will happen

thecresta

USB-C has been designed to phase out USB-A connectors.Apple are the first … USB-C has been designed to phase out USB-A connectors.Apple are the first to remove them. See the new Macbook Pro.There's no need to have both other than for backwards compatibility.It will take a long time to achieve that goal though, and wireless technologies will likely have overtaken long before that happens.



Yes apple are great at that, getting rid of connections and such. You just end up paying for adaptors and carrying just as much weight or taking up more if not the same space in your back.

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician



If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be pretty close to zero. Dumb-ways-to-die!

rob585

I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket … I have not got any usb-c gadgets, do they not have standard usb socket one end usb-c other end....??Excuse my ignorance....


A quick google images search will clarify things. Search USB C computer to see the difference.

scoobytawazara

yes well said



In all this advising, everyone has tended to forget one CRUCIAL 'minor' detail?.

UNLESS ofcourse you know for 100% sure what your doing, it's advisable important best practice to turn off at the Electrics in your Junction Box the Power Fuse first!, eg. the bit that directly relates to the Electric Wall Sockets in your House, etc?.

So as not to end up having a very painful electric shock, and/or end up electrocuting yourselves, etc, etc, etc?, or whatever .....

Thought worth mentioning?. :-)

cabbage

If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be … If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be pretty close to zero. Dumb-ways-to-die!



That's one way of putting it ...

cabbage

If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be … If you have to ask then don't do it since your electrical skills must be pretty close to zero. Dumb-ways-to-die!


Already answered many times, why the ott post?

I have this exact model and don't find it slow to charge. I've only ever done one device at a time, but my iPhone 6+ charges rapidly, certainly not an overnight job.

amour3k

In all this advising, everyone has tended to forget one CRUCIAL 'minor' … In all this advising, everyone has tended to forget one CRUCIAL 'minor' detail?.UNLESS ofcourse you know for 100% sure what your doing, it's advisable important best practice to turn off at the Electrics in your Junction Box the Power Fuse first!, eg. the bit that directly relates to the Electric Wall Sockets in your House, etc?.So as not to end up having a very painful electric shock, and/or end up electrocuting yourselves, etc, etc, etc?, or whatever .....Thought worth mentioning?. :-)



Not sure it is worth mentioning, re overpopulation, natural selection...
(_;)

Rickardo

Not sure it is worth mentioning, re overpopulation, natural … Not sure it is worth mentioning, re overpopulation, natural selection...(_;)


You would be going some to remove yourself from the gene pool with 230V although I bet some silly **** has done it somewhere.

The girls at work messing around with damaged three-phase sockets, however...

i wouldnt bother buying the 2.1A sockets. most devices now have fast charge and these just not powerful enough.

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit? can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit? can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician


scoobytawazara

not too difficult need to make sure will fit existing box and bend wires … not too difficult need to make sure will fit existing box and bend wires out of way to get cover to sit nicely so you can screw on the plate



Before touching a screwdriver you should trip the biggest switch on your mains circuit breaker.

http://www.handmaidendesign.co.uk/images/gallerypics/w500_13639717502012_12_04_12RichmondRoad%20003_w2000.jpg

I installed similar sockets in January but have since removed them. They were always warm to the touch even when not used. Could not go on holiday worrying if they were safe. Ideally they should only be powered when a USB plug is inserted, ones I had were always on.

Also had second thoughts after reading about the risks uncovered in lab tests by electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk. Every plug failed on some aspect tested.
Edited by: "Sqsq" 7th Mar

fish323

Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete … Good price but as USB-c becomes more popular these will become obsolete quite quickly.


USB-c tends to be a replacement for Micro USB. As such, both the full size and USB-c will be around in tandem for some while.

As for charging speed... The lead you use makes a HUGE difference. On the same tablet and power supply I measured charging rates between 0.3A and 1.8A when changing just the lead. That's a 6x difference just by swapping the lead.
Edited by: "JayR123" 7th Mar

ZEbbEDY

how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an … how hard are these to fit?can you fit these yourself or do you need an electrician


Quite easy BUT if you are a novice with wiring get someone to check it before you switch the power back on.
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